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Title: Can Coinbase be hacked?
Post by: Sephera on December 13, 2013, 08:30:08 PM
Can Coinbase be hacked if you use 2 factor Authentication, email address associated Gmail with 2 factor ID with SMS verification. Gmail is my regular account which I log into often.

I log in on my laptop which is fairly secure and smart phone android.


Title: Re: Can Coinbase be hacked?
Post by: WillMilk4Coin on December 13, 2013, 08:33:13 PM
Not unless someone has both your password and your phone; otherwise, no.


Title: Re: Can Coinbase be hacked?
Post by: ArteL on December 13, 2013, 08:43:00 PM
either you probably can hack your friend, if u know his/her closely (family, pets, etc)
what do u think about this issue?

ps dont deposit your passs in phones!!!


Title: Re: Can Coinbase be hacked?
Post by: Sephera on December 13, 2013, 08:43:13 PM
Not unless someone has both your password and your phone; otherwise, no.

Ok thanks good to know. I am treading into BTC. Just hearing about all sorts of scams and hacking I just want to protect myself.

I would prefer 3 factor ID, password, yubiKEY, and google authenticator.


Title: Re: Can Coinbase be hacked?
Post by: ajax3592 on December 13, 2013, 08:45:07 PM
Not unless someone has both your password and your phone; otherwise, no.

Ok thanks good to know. I am treading into BTC. Just hearing about all sorts of scams and hacking I just want to protect myself.

I would prefer 3 factor ID, password, yubiKEY, and google authenticator.

Be warned any kind of online wallet is not safe, no matter how big the reputation of company, since you actually never have the wallet in your possession.


Title: Re: Can Coinbase be hacked?
Post by: Sephera on December 13, 2013, 08:46:42 PM
Thanks I am just building up a few K for now. Once I build up more I will look into paper wallet and securing it.


Title: Re: Can Coinbase be hacked?
Post by: Kiki112 on December 13, 2013, 08:55:52 PM
everything can be hacked but it depends how hard is it to do so because some sites are extremly secured from such attacks ;)


Title: Re: Can Coinbase be hacked?
Post by: WillMilk4Coin on December 13, 2013, 09:16:24 PM
Correct, if we're talking about a server side attack (on Coinbase) then there could be trouble. As far as just access of use for your account, it is extremely secure with 2FA. As others have said, best case is not to keep any assets in the cloud.

Armory is highly recommended!


Title: Re: Can Coinbase be hacked?
Post by: DodoB on December 13, 2013, 09:23:31 PM
Yes it can be hacked. every online wallet can be hacked,whatever they tell you. There were small compromises of CoinBase in the past and people lost bitcoins. offline wallets are probably the safest.


Title: Re: Can Coinbase be hacked?
Post by: cunixion on December 14, 2013, 02:18:18 AM
coinbase has very good intentions to be hackerproof, they mention empleyees are security cleared. If they have implemented what they say, it is quite secure. It is best to be couscious though.


Title: Re: Can Coinbase be hacked?
Post by: panck4beer on December 14, 2013, 02:29:44 AM
I log in on my laptop which is fairly secure and smart phone android.

SMS verification on smart phone may be problem, especially when you are connected to internet with it and browsing or playing variety of games - it can be compromised


Title: Re: Can Coinbase be hacked?
Post by: David7 on December 14, 2013, 02:32:04 AM
mobile sms can hack, password too.
But it is very expensive to hack sms.
hacking password is very much depends on its complexity.
And of course viruses - they like windows and windows like them.


Title: Re: Can Coinbase be hacked?
Post by: mjc on December 14, 2013, 02:33:56 AM
Any place can be hacked.  Two factor auth will prevent you from bring hacked with a keystroke logger.  The hacker will need your password "Something you know" and the google auth app on your phone "Something you have" in order to access your account. 


Title: Re: Can Coinbase be hacked?
Post by: Arasce on December 14, 2013, 02:37:26 AM
Though sites have been working hard to counter hackers, every sites may be hacked.
It would be better to store your funds in your offline wallet.


Title: Re: Can Coinbase be hacked?
Post by: mjc on December 14, 2013, 02:44:55 AM
coinbase has very good intentions to be hackerproof, they mention empleyees are security cleared. If they have implemented what they say, it is quite secure. It is best to be couscious though.

Just because someone security cleared doesn't mean they know how to write secure code.  As a CEH & OSCP I regularly get through apps written by very security conscience developers/project teams.

MFA protects you from yourself and the likelihood that your system will be compromised.  

As for the security of the system, defense in depth and design and development with a focus on security goes a long way.  Were talking typical infrastructure security like Firewalls, IDS/IPS, WFA and the such are just not enough.  

Typically systems are built to meet the business need.  Business defines functionality, then use cases and test cases are written.  They tend to forget about the abuse cases, and that is when I can get in.  

What needs to happen in addition to all the infrastructure security, is that non functional requirements like security are considered from the beginning and developers are trained in defensive software development, designers trained in such things as threat modelling, business owners place as much focus on security testing as they do on functional, performance and UAT testing.  Then you stand a chance.

So, it's as secure as they allow it to be.  They will always claim it is secure, but the truth is in the pudding.  I have no idea if they are or they are not.  I certainly hope they are as I know many people rely on them.


Title: Re: Can Coinbase be hacked?
Post by: Itun on December 14, 2013, 02:53:19 AM
Hypothetically, any website can be hacked.

The question is how hard is it to do so.

For big, trusted companies like Coinbase, I think it is very unlikely someone will figure out how to hack them.


Title: Re: Can Coinbase be hacked?
Post by: Harley997 on December 14, 2013, 02:55:24 AM
yes, of course, anything can be hacked. security is just a deterrent...... but your're fine, from the sound of it

if you have coins, withdraw to a wallet you control, though. no reason to leave em in a hosted wallet. that's asking for trouble


Title: Re: Can Coinbase be hacked?
Post by: mjc on December 14, 2013, 03:06:46 AM
Hypothetically, any website can be hacked.

The question is how hard is it to do so.

For big, trusted companies like Coinbase, I think it is very unlikely someone will figure out how to hack them.

I think Sony was bigger and more trusted.


Title: Re: Can Coinbase be hacked?
Post by: mjc on December 14, 2013, 03:10:05 AM
Not unless someone has both your password and your phone; otherwise, no.

Ok thanks good to know. I am treading into BTC. Just hearing about all sorts of scams and hacking I just want to protect myself.

I would prefer 3 factor ID, password, yubiKEY, and google authenticator.

That is still 2 factor.  Password is something you know.  The yubi key and google auth is something you have.  To get third factor you must include something you are (Bio metrics).


Title: Re: Can Coinbase be hacked?
Post by: Harley997 on December 14, 2013, 03:11:29 AM
Not unless someone has both your password and your phone; otherwise, no.

Ok thanks good to know. I am treading into BTC. Just hearing about all sorts of scams and hacking I just want to protect myself.

I would prefer 3 factor ID, password, yubiKEY, and google authenticator.

That is still 2 factor.  Password is something you know.  The yubi key and google auth is something you have.  To get third factor you must include something you are (Bio metrics).
biometric -- that's what i want! ;D


Title: Re: Can Coinbase be hacked?
Post by: stompix on December 14, 2013, 04:07:51 AM
Hypothetically, any website can be hacked.

The question is how hard is it to do so.

For big, trusted companies like Coinbase, I think it is very unlikely someone will figure out how to hack them.

Big? Trusted?
How did you already come up with these words?
Have they existed for such a long period to label them as secure and trusted?

Also,far bigger and older companies have been hacked to promote Coinbase as impenetrable.


Title: Re: Can Coinbase be hacked?
Post by: Sephera on December 14, 2013, 04:47:55 AM
Is a password something like this complex enough

Akasha#5123&7623


Title: Re: Can Coinbase be hacked?
Post by: Harley997 on December 14, 2013, 04:51:24 AM
i dont think coinbase is safe at all. no hosted wallet is safe.

keep coins with 3rd parties at your own peril!


Title: Re: Can Coinbase be hacked?
Post by: Zombie123 on January 20, 2014, 04:52:26 AM
It seems they have an API vulnerability. Several accounts have been hacked.. So what is the safest way to store Bitcoin.. Paper wallet.. and if there is fire thats gone too ?


Title: Re: Can Coinbase be hacked?
Post by: taipo on January 20, 2014, 05:42:47 AM
Is a password something like this complex enough

Akasha#5123&7623

Your password works out in theory to be a 104.87 bit password ( bits of entropy ), so thats a fairly difficult to crack password ( although I would not have so many numbers in a row like that ).

Theoretically, any password can be bruteforced, but just not in the real world.

example: Your password cracked in 58 years....
( 94^16 / 2 ) / ( 10^22 ) / 60 / 60 / 24 / 365.25 = 58 years at a 10 Sextillion hashes per second bruteforcing it.

Attackers are going to focus on the easy hacks first before ever trying out bruteforcing passwords. APIs, installable wallets, through to the yea old database code injection hacks would be the place most of them would start.


Title: Re: Can Coinbase be hacked?
Post by: coinboss4life on January 20, 2014, 05:52:21 AM
no


Title: Re: Can Coinbase be hacked?
Post by: Dennis7777 on January 20, 2014, 06:17:01 AM
no

You really think so? lol


Title: Re: Can Coinbase be hacked?
Post by: javidjamae on January 20, 2014, 06:34:13 AM
Yes, because the site itself could be hacked, not through an individuals account, but through various attacks through insecure code and services on coinbase itself.


Title: Re: Can Coinbase be hacked?
Post by: jwray on January 20, 2014, 06:54:33 AM
I just use coinbase as a conduit for converting between BTC and USD.  I wouldn't use it as long term storage for significant quantities of currency because that increases the risk of shit happening.


Title: Re: Can Coinbase be hacked?
Post by: Biodom on January 20, 2014, 07:07:26 AM
I see a bit too much emphasis on wallet security with some gut wrenching stories about how someone made a super secure wallet and then deleted all keys. I think reliable recovery (have wallet encrypted and backed up in dropbox, email, flash, etc) is much more important on "average" than concerns about security. People are constantly losing massive amounts of bitcoins through the loss of private keys. Coinbase is pretty good at security, but you don't have to store all of your coins there.

One additional important point: paper wallet and "change" address conundrum.
Example: you made a paper wallet with 10BTC in it, then used private keys to send 2 BTC to someone. Do you think that 8 BTC are still in your paper wallet? Nope, they are in your "change" address and this confounded many people before.


Title: Re: Can Coinbase be hacked?
Post by: virtcurnc on January 20, 2014, 07:11:00 AM
Any online site has the possibility of being hacked.  Risk -vs- Convenience on our part. 
Do not put all your eggs into one basket, or all of your coins in one online wallet, exchange, etc...


Title: Re: Can Coinbase be hacked?
Post by: Dennis7777 on January 20, 2014, 07:15:27 AM
I see a bit too much emphasis on wallet security with some gut wrenching stories about how someone made a super secure wallet and then deleted all keys. I think reliable recovery (have wallet encrypted and backed up in dropbox, email, flash, etc) is much more important on "average" than concerns about security.

Indeed, it is always suggested to both encrypt your wallet and make multiple backups.


Example: you made a paper wallet with 10BTC in it, then used private keys to send 2 BTC to someone. Do you think that 8 BTC are still in your paper wallet? Nope, they are in your "change" address and this confounded many people before.

It depends.
For some wallets, you can adjust the setting to "disable" the use of "change addresses".
So, in your example, the wallet will automatically create a tx which send 2 BTC out and 8 BTC "change" back to the original address.

For other wallets, you can still put your own address as a recipient and create the above tx manually (2 BTC out, 8 BTC back to yourself).



Title: Re: Can Coinbase be hacked?
Post by: HASHRA on January 24, 2014, 03:23:06 PM
Would be really hard to do... but yes. Anything is hackable in some way if it is online.

I would never keep a large amount online.


Title: Re: Can Coinbase be hacked?
Post by: Sonny on January 25, 2014, 11:18:13 AM
Can Coinbase be hacked? Definitely.

All those big tech companies like Google, Yahoo, Facebook, Twitter have been hacked previously, what makes you think Coinbase cannot be hacked?


Title: Re: Can Coinbase be hacked?
Post by: banaltcoin on January 25, 2014, 07:57:26 PM
Yes it can be hacked. every online wallet can be hacked


Title: Re: Can Coinbase be hacked?
Post by: ttkool on January 25, 2014, 09:38:42 PM
mobile sms can hack, password too.
But it is very expensive to hack sms.
hacking password is very much depends on its complexity.
And of course viruses - they like windows and windows like them.

Why do you say it's expensive to hack sms?

What we need is eyelock myris retina scanner.  ;D


Title: Re: Can Coinbase be hacked?
Post by: ASFx on January 26, 2014, 12:14:14 AM
I wouldnt worry about it. Always use 2FA on your account. Coinbase keeps most of their coins in cold storage so even if they got hacked, they wouldn't lose much.


Title: Re: Can Coinbase be hacked?
Post by: jamesb777 on January 26, 2014, 04:06:47 AM
Anything can be hacked though they store most of their funds in offline cold wallets which mitigates risk greatly. It's more likely your computer gets compromised giving the attacker access to your account.


Title: Re: Can Coinbase be hacked?
Post by: U1TRA_L0RD on January 26, 2014, 07:39:15 AM
I heard Electrum is a good Bitcoin Client, Check it out if you want.


Title: Re: Can Coinbase be hacked?
Post by: Sonny on January 26, 2014, 08:48:08 AM
I heard Electrum is a good Bitcoin Client, Check it out if you want.

Yup, Electrum is pretty good.
It is easy to use and there is no need to store all the block data.


Title: Re: Can Coinbase be hacked?
Post by: howzar on January 26, 2014, 01:08:57 PM
Another risk of hacking your bitcoins come from the hacking of the site itself and not just your account. you should be careful with both online and offline wallets (have a very secure wallet and hidden private keys etc...)


Title: Re: Can Coinbase be hacked?
Post by: bitbitz on January 26, 2014, 02:07:23 PM
Not unless someone has both your password and your phone; otherwise, no.

Yep, unless a server side hacks happense which is unlikely!


Title: Re: Can Coinbase be hacked?
Post by: keijokolme on January 29, 2014, 02:15:47 PM
I dont think so he would have to have pw and phone.. no chance


Title: Re: Can Coinbase be hacked?
Post by: Sonny on January 29, 2014, 02:27:16 PM
Not unless someone has both your password and your phone; otherwise, no.

Yep, unless a server side hacks happense which is unlikely!

Why is it unlikely? We have seen quite a lot of server-side hacking in huge tech companies in the past.


Title: Re: Can Coinbase be hacked?
Post by: Dux2K on January 30, 2014, 08:37:07 AM
Everything that is online can be hacked.
If it is worth it and/or someone will put the effort in it is another question.


Title: Re: Can Coinbase be hacked?
Post by: Timerondsc on February 27, 2014, 08:38:37 AM
Everything can be hacked. To hack this they will need your password and the google auth app on your phone


Title: Re: Can Coinbase be hacked?
Post by: duhosnyul on February 27, 2014, 09:47:56 AM
Do not store your bitcoins on any exchange. There is a chance that they can be hacked. Just store it on cold wallet.


Title: Re: Can Coinbase be hacked?
Post by: Kaligulax on February 27, 2014, 12:32:33 PM
Can Coinbase be hacked if you use 2 factor Authentication, email address associated Gmail with 2 factor ID with SMS verification. Gmail is my regular account which I log into often.

I log in on my laptop which is fairly secure and smart phone android.

Everything can be hacked... something on the hard way and something on the easy way... it depends about you on what way you'll be hacked...  :)


Title: Re: Can Coinbase be hacked?
Post by: bloggersjoy on February 27, 2014, 01:42:08 PM
I think one should have your phone to recover password but as you said you use an Android phone so Android phones are not 100% safe so don't keep useful data in your phone and don't leave bluetooth opened every time.