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Economy => Speculation => Topic started by: m1bxd on December 14, 2013, 08:35:40 AM



Title: Swiss vote Currency v Commodity
Post by: m1bxd on December 14, 2013, 08:35:40 AM
Hi,

Which vote makes Bitcoin more susceptible to price manipulation and why?

And will the peaks and dips be more frequent / deeper as a result?

Cheers MX


Title: Re: Swiss vote Currency v Commodity
Post by: pand70 on December 14, 2013, 08:45:52 AM
What swiss vote? You mean the question in the swiss parliament for a report around bitcoin?


Title: Re: Swiss vote Currency v Commodity
Post by: empoweoqwj on December 14, 2013, 09:16:19 AM
Hi,

Which vote makes Bitcoin more susceptible to price manipulation and why?

And will the peaks and dips be more frequent / deeper as a result?

Cheers MX

I don't really care about price manipulation, peaks and dips. I care about the utility of bitcoin. Which is clearly much more useful if classified as a currency than a commodity, so I'm hoping the Swiss vote goes for sayings its a currency.


Title: Re: Swiss vote Currency v Commodity
Post by: Bitcoinpro on December 14, 2013, 09:17:12 AM
many Gold bugs there, Gold is history

their dosn't need to be a vote just acceptance of reality



Title: Re: Swiss vote Currency v Commodity
Post by: empoweoqwj on December 14, 2013, 09:22:54 AM
many Gold bugs there, Gold is history

their dosn't need to be a vote just acceptance of reality



Acceptance of reality comes via laws. There's a lot of Swiss people (bankers) that will do anything possible to keep gold as a store of value. So the vote will certainly be interesting.


Title: Re: Swiss vote Currency v Commodity
Post by: Bitcoinpro on December 14, 2013, 09:31:41 AM
many Gold bugs there, Gold is history

their dosn't need to be a vote just acceptance of reality



Acceptance of reality comes via laws. There's a lot of Swiss people (bankers) that will do anything possible to keep gold as a store of value. So the vote will certainly be interesting.

Golds store of value is relative to its supply and demand, its used for jewelry etc, its will be also a great backing for bitcoin too.

What has stopped silve and golds explosion in values is the fact that technological advances are reducing the usage

for example silver in the photographic industry



Title: Re: Swiss vote Currency v Commodity
Post by: Mirsad on December 14, 2013, 09:40:54 AM
Hi,

Which vote makes Bitcoin more susceptible to price manipulation and why?

And will the peaks and dips be more frequent / deeper as a result?

Cheers MX

There is no fucking vote. Absolute crap posted by a pump and dumper.
There won't be a vote in switzerland about bitcoin the next 2-5 years. It takes a lot of time in a direct democracy.

Most of the suckers here don't even know where switzerland is located.


Title: Re: Swiss vote Currency v Commodity
Post by: m1bxd on December 14, 2013, 09:46:14 AM
Hi,

Which vote makes Bitcoin more susceptible to price manipulation and why?

And will the peaks and dips be more frequent / deeper as a result?

Cheers MX

There is no fucking vote. Absolute crap posted by a pump and dumper.
There won't be a vote in switzerland about bitcoin the next 2-5 years. It takes a lot of time in a direct democracy.

Most of the suckers here don't even know where switzerland is located.

I think you will find it is a vote of some sort:

Quote
Politicians in Switzerland are set to vote on proposals submitted by 45 members of the Swiss Parliament for bitcoins to be legally recognised as a legitimate foreign currency, like the euro or dollar.

http://www.finextra.com/news/fullstory.aspx?newsitemid=25521&topic=retail


Title: Re: Swiss vote Currency v Commodity
Post by: Mirsad on December 14, 2013, 09:53:00 AM
Ok.. I give up.
I'm swiss and you are not.

So don't take things from lousy translations as fact. Every idiot copied from the same BS source. Noone read the original statement in german.

It's a postulate and they vote to talk about. The risks and chances of bitcoin.

There is no public vote.
They vote (internally) if it's necessary to talk about bitcoin.
That's way less then the US senat hearings. We are slow in adepting new things.


That fucking shit about foreign currency drives me nuts. There is NO such thing.
Read the postulate in german as I did and stop writing utter bullshit about things you don't know anything.


Title: Re: Swiss vote Currency v Commodity
Post by: pand70 on December 14, 2013, 10:50:53 AM
So don't take things from lousy translations as fact. Every idiot copied from the same BS source. Noone read the original statement in german.

After the bank of china notice people desperately looking for good news that involve two words. Government and currency.


Title: Re: Swiss vote Currency v Commodity
Post by: m1bxd on December 14, 2013, 11:47:11 PM
Ok.. I give up.
I'm swiss and you are not.

So don't take things from lousy translations as fact. Every idiot copied from the same BS source. Noone read the original statement in german.

It's a postulate and they vote to talk about. The risks and chances of bitcoin.

There is no public vote.
They vote (internally) if it's necessary to talk about bitcoin.
That's way less then the US senat hearings. We are slow in adepting new things.


That fucking shit about foreign currency drives me nuts. There is NO such thing.
Read the postulate in german as I did and stop writing utter bullshit about things you don't know anything.

Dear Mirsad,

Thank you for taking the time and trouble to explain the issue to the illiterate masses like myself who are not good at foreign languages.

Mark


Title: Re: Swiss vote Currency v Commodity
Post by: hoewer4what on December 14, 2013, 11:53:47 PM
Hi,

Which vote makes Bitcoin more susceptible to price manipulation and why?

And will the peaks and dips be more frequent / deeper as a result?

Cheers MX

I don't really care about price manipulation, peaks and dips. I care about the utility of bitcoin. Which is clearly much more useful if classified as a currency than a commodity, so I'm hoping the Swiss vote goes for sayings its a currency.

Currency must be debt based, and Bitcoin is not. Bitcoin is commodity


Title: Re: Swiss vote Currency v Commodity
Post by: Wilhelm on December 15, 2013, 02:40:45 AM
Does it matter if it's a currency or commodity?
As long as you can trade it and use it to buy things it doesn't really matter.
Only if a government forbids companies to accept commodity it will be a problem. (I believe this to be the heart of the discussion)


Title: Re: Swiss vote Currency v Commodity
Post by: empoweoqwj on December 15, 2013, 02:47:23 AM
Hi,

Which vote makes Bitcoin more susceptible to price manipulation and why?

And will the peaks and dips be more frequent / deeper as a result?

Cheers MX

I don't really care about price manipulation, peaks and dips. I care about the utility of bitcoin. Which is clearly much more useful if classified as a currency than a commodity, so I'm hoping the Swiss vote goes for sayings its a currency.

Currency must be debt based, and Bitcoin is not. Bitcoin is commodity

Thank you for clearing that up. No need for world wide public debate now


Title: Re: Swiss vote Currency v Commodity
Post by: pand70 on December 15, 2013, 06:47:58 AM
Dear Mirsad,

Thank you for taking the time and trouble to explain the issue to the illiterate masses like myself who are not good at foreign languages.

Mark

You just got mislead by flashy headlines. Happens all the time especially when you learn for bitcoin from mainstream media.


Title: Re: Swiss vote Currency v Commodity
Post by: empoweoqwj on December 15, 2013, 07:09:32 AM
Dear Mirsad,

Thank you for taking the time and trouble to explain the issue to the illiterate masses like myself who are not good at foreign languages.

Mark

You just got mislead by flashy headlines. Happens all the time especially when you learn for bitcoin from mainstream media.

The main problem is most people can't be arsed to actually read the articles. They just read the headlines, which we all know are sensationalised, and comment on those. How lazy has the human race got?