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Hello community.
I have few questions, If any multi account holder is working by following all the rules and working fairly then whats wrong? and why there is btc fee for removing proxy ban? If this is not legal here then why forum authorities are allowing them to register here? also tell me that if someone give you negative trust wrongly and not replying you then how to remove that negative trust as well?
Hope any high rank member or forum person will clear this confusion.

This exists in order to reduce the number of scammers who create their accounts through other people's addresses, which is prohibited. Naturally used for bad purposes

Not with all proxy servers you get this tablet. Basically this happens only when you use a free server.
But if you mean the creation of accounts, it is even allowed, because everyone has the right to some kind of anonymity.

Mistakenly negative trust can not be given, because before you receive it, it will pass the test by moderators(i think), which excludes it. But if something happens, then it's better to turn to the moderator and prove your rightness, if it is so.

Nothing wrong as long as they are following the rules. Even you can have multi account on this forum.

Means IP ban? May be the admin will know better but IMO I guess it's to punish the IP holder

May be giving a 2nd chance.

Trusts are not moderated. So, the only person can help you is the person who left you the trust.

Let me know if that's satisfactory?

ok cool but how to find moderators here?  I think they are too busy in forum work and may be they can not pay attention to everyone's request as they have many. I think they should issue one warning to the account holders before given negative trust as this can wasted their long hard work. If they found any complaint from bounty managers regarding bad working or scam then they should ban them.

Usually I just write in private messages to the moderator of one topic or another, in which I wrote. In 90% of cases I was answered, so I think this is one of the most practical ways.

Yes you have clear many things. If double accounts are allowed then its wrong with me as i got negative trust by a forum user he stated that i hold many accounts, i have send him request by clearing my position lets see he will reply or not. If not replying then i think my account is ruined because mostly bounty managers are not considering negative trust users :(

- Again only the person who left the trust only can remove it, the mods can not do anything on removing it coz trust is not moderated

Do you think people has much time to warn everyone those they red tag? If you have issue with the red tag then directly contact with that person and discuss to remove it. Like earlier you requested me to remove my one.


You have been redTrusted because of Breaking rules and cheating various campaigns not for having multiple account. There is a difference.

So you're saying you didn't enter multiple alt accounts into the same campaign?
I don't believe that for a minute.  The evidence marlboroza provided is solid; your excuse is threadbare; and I've reinforced marlboroza's feedback on all of you.  You think you're "working" on bitcointalk, but all you're doing is contributing to the decline in quality of discussion--but that's not what the neg is for.  It's for cheating a bounty with alt accounts.

Edit2:  Glad to see marlboroza on DT, because he deserves it.  He has a keen eye for finding this type of shenanigans, which the forum needs more of.

Boss i have no any alt account, this message i have send him to remove negative trust.

Hello Sir i am not holding these accounts, I have only this account but these are my friends and we are working together on the forum, We just following the stallions posts as he referred us so we copy his data and the campaigns because of lake of knowledge but posting from our accounts and in some bounty account requirement we use latest post so you can see same posts as well. For the transactions we send our coins to zef316 and stallion some times as we need money s o we sell those go them, in which way we can prove our identity? sir zef316's account is ban due to signature scam since long time so he created other id named cheechu yes cheechu is his 2nd account, kindly remove negative trust from my id please I am just working here with my own account.

I dont know he will believe or not. there are many persons working in same bounties as like me but we cant say that only 1 or two persons having those participants accounts.

Yes, as what have said by mate mdayonliner it is clearly stated that you may have multiple accounts but not cheating the bounty campaign or breaking rules in the forum. You have got negative mark by marlboroza because of cheating bounty campaign which has a reference to make a strong evidence against with you.

I think there's is no second chance on that offense since you already know that it is strictly prohibited by cheating a campaign and that is shady behavior that can't tolerate by MOD. Luckily you are not permanent ban by admin.

If i have cheated various campaigns then why i got payment from those campaigns? there is no any campaign where i got rejected sir. I got paid by them without any objections sir. everyone can review i worked as per rules of the bounty.

In his evidence you can see that he is not mentioned that i am cheating in campaigns he just said that i have posted then stallion posted replies where is cheating? everyone can post replies or this is prohibited?

Oops, looks like ypu just received a new reward :)
https://i.imgur.com/aeWx2o9.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/aeWx2o9.jpg

And wait, theres more. Busted Merit Abuser :)
https://i.imgur.com/LUyAUlZ.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/LUyAUlZ.jpg

It seems like you really are helping your friends too much, by what? Trading Merits?

Yeah but they're not CHEATING.

Alts are allowed: Yeah that's for sure.
Cheating by entering multiple account in the same campaign: Strictly prohibited.

There is only one reason why you were given a Negative Trust. Its because you tried to cheat to your bounty campaign. Come on, Move it on.

Before posting you should know the whole story. can you show many merits i got from users?

Don't be mad buddy. I've just found it in here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3168616.msg33049331#msg33049331

Why don't you click the link and look for yourself.

Here's what I found.
https://i.imgur.com/3kBVHsa.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/3kBVHsa.jpg

Yes you mean to say that only 2 merits made me a full member.

I think you've just missed this what I said.

And also
Working together huh? Yeah, your Merit transaction with your friends proves that you really are a good friend. Also proves that you abused it.

Why don't you ask for your friends for help to remove your Negative Trust instead. Looks like you're the only one looking for solution. Are they just friends for benefits?

Oops. Sorry :)


Edit. One more thing. Did you even know that I also hate Merit Abusers? :)

Using alt accounts in the same bounties is prohibited. Who says it is allowed? Please get your facts straight and read the rules. Plus with this statement it can imply that you are agreeing that you have alt accounts.

- You got it wrong mate, I never said "not cheating the bounty campaign" anywhere  ;D

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I do think the same, marlboroza is doing some good work for the forum IMO.

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He already acknowledged his merit abusing to me. So according to my t&c I removed his redTrust with a neutral. I always believe people should always have their 2nd chance and I gave him that chance so that he do not abuse merit anymore. Cheating bounty with alts is another thing. I don't think marlboroza and The Pharmacist haven't done their research before painting him red. I trust some members justifications in this forum and they are two of them.

Well we are not working in one home mate, they have their life may be they are busy with any work or not want to work today. I am not bound with anyone. for you just take care of yourself by reading this

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2284373.0

find below your quality posts (someone consider me a shit poster by doing this also)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2364372.msg24520624#msg24520624
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2409917.msg24815792#msg24815792
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2418553.msg24814430#msg24814430
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2418553.msg24814481#msg24814481

These huge replies you made, i think you were not hunting the rank / activity by doing this. no one give you negative trust for this. hats off.

some peoples only hate peoples they not believe on 2nd chance and i am the facing this well i am not begging anything here. Thank you  for your kindness. any person act with his nature we cant expect softness from bush like flowers. If i was wrong then i have no need to start this topic on your suggestion but what i get another negative trust. may be peoples feel funny and may be have many more to come. No justice for fair persons.

Yeah yeah, you got me. I knew you'd figure it out. I'm not deleting those because it shows that I improved from being a noob and a idiot poster. Well, as long as I remember, I was a newbie that time, and I also became a shitposter as I sometimes spam (but I don't really know that I'm spamming). It just made me smile because, over those 500 plus posts I've made, you only found 4 posts ;D or there are still more?

And, hey. I'm not trying to be a bad guy here. I only want you to know this, "Sometimes there are things that should never to discuss, because it will just make the situation worse". Just look what you've done. Because of this blatant thread of yours, The Pharmacist gave you another Negative Trust. But, I admire your bravery, you still risk by creating this thread.

Is that so? Hmmm. So, if mdayonliner is correct then I'm also giving you a second chance.
But chances from regular members like us wont change the situation. Only malboroza can remove your Negative Feedback and also The Pharmacist.
I'm pretty sure that if you provide evidences and you proved that you're clean. These two DT members will wash those red paint away.


But I still hate Merit Abusers. I just hope that you won't try to Abuse Merit next time :)


Also please be aware that marlboroza's research became his/her evidence and it is really a solid one that proves you really cheat a bounty https://archive.fo/o/xCKNU/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2544574.msg36813218%23msg36813218

Looks like it will be impossible for him/her to to remove your Negative Feedback.

LOL but that pharmacist is giving negative trust to those alts that he has detected,he is giving those alt accounts negative trust despite they have joined one signature at a time,do not defend him because we all know  how the pharmacist works,if he wanted you to have negative trust you will get it by all means the last time i saw he has given some alts red trusts because of their names which has some pattern.

What I discovered recently (to my surprise) that multiple accounts are allowed, but you need to comply with the rules (I'm rephrasing it):
1. No merit exchange between your alts
2. Do not enter one bounty campaign with 2 or more of your alts. I think this doesn't count joining the signature campaign with one account and twitter with another
3. Do not spam! Even you're not replying by the utter jibberish, posting on the same thread with 2 or more of your accounts are considered spam. This makes sense, if you answered to the topic once, why you need to do it another time unless you're increasing posts count (aka spamming).

It is just a follow-up post, summarizing what was written above (not spam).

No i am not holding alts, once i have created but the same was blocked. this is new to me that with alts we can participate here but not in same bounties.

@imrobo2
So you didnt know that you are not allowed to join same bounty with your alts? Do you even read rules stated by the managers before applying to a bounty or signature campaign?

@imrobo2
You are a Full Member in this forum and yet you do not know what the rules are ?
You should have took care of your account since it is very hard to gain a full member rank these days.

You know, having one account is more than enough to gain a satisfying amount of bitcoins. It is just a matter of being a honest member and you are willing to contribute.
Simply aiming to earn will not help you.

Though it is true that multi accounts are allowed-it is stated that this is acceptable for business purposes but never to abuse SIG campaigns,  bounties or any projects by using those accounts at the same time.

Let me get this straight without ranting over and over. Having multiple accounts on the forum is allowed. You might have to pay some fee if you sign up under same IP address.

However abusing bounties and campaigns with alt accounts will get you a negative trust from DT. Again if you have alt accounts and then escrow deals between them and try to get trust rating up - eventually when you get caught you will be given negative trust for trust farming.

Many people on the forum have alt accounts - but they dont use them to abuse bounties or self escrows - in which case they would be negged.

Sir i tried to read but some bounty managers are not mentioning this and also i said that i have no active alt now so why i should focus on that?

Some managers didnt even write it maybe but thats how the bounty and signature campaign works in this forum. Now?? If i have alt accounts before and want to deceive people, i would say " i never have any active alts" to others, but maybe you are just can not use english well or you really have alts before and did cheat the bounty or signature campaign, i dont know which one is true for your case.

If you really are not cheating, then bring some proof, a solid one, not just words.

My take on this is that even if a bounty doesn't have it listed in the rules that you can't enroll alt accounts, it's still cheating.  You're being extremely greedy by doing this, and you're basically taking away spots from people who probably should have a chance to participate. 

In addition to that, these people who put numerous alt accounts into these bounties are total shitposters anyway--that's been proven over and over.  It's toxic to the forum to engage in this behavior, and it's a good thing they're getting tagged.

Sir, you are talking about proof so tell me how can i prove it? the persons given red trust not replying only pharmcist is active here and talking. Yes i write above that my account is not active because it was ban for useless posting when i started working on this forum. I was unaware in the start thats why. Pharmacist you are right greedy persons taking opportunities from other persons but i am really not holding alts. Is there is a way to prove then i will surely do so.

I dont know, you are the one who are saying that you are not an alts of other accounts who is tagged as your alts. You better think of way to prove it because people will not take your words in here for this matter.

Some suggestion, find other thread made by people who got tagged like you. Maybe you can find anything valuable there.