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Title: Buying on 1 exchange and selling on another
Post by: adam9317 on December 15, 2013, 03:10:57 PM
Hi I have a quick question,

Will you ever make much profit from buying bitcoin on 1 exchange and selling on another. I wouldn't want to be selling on Mt Gox as I understand there has been problems with USD withdrawls.

Thankyou for your help


Title: Re: Buying on 1 exchange and selling on another
Post by: zimmah on December 15, 2013, 03:12:56 PM
this practice is known as arbitrage, it's possible, but it's currently hard to do because the exchanges have pretty long withdrawal times.


Title: Re: Buying on 1 exchange and selling on another
Post by: adam9317 on December 15, 2013, 03:19:32 PM
this practice is known as arbitrage, it's possible, but it's currently hard to do because the exchanges have pretty long withdrawal times.

Thanks for your help


Title: Re: Buying on 1 exchange and selling on another
Post by: Rluner on December 15, 2013, 03:44:58 PM
I'm sure a lot of users do this already but don't admit it.


Title: Re: Buying on 1 exchange and selling on another
Post by: empoweoqwj on December 15, 2013, 03:48:29 PM
I'm sure a lot of users do this already but don't admit it.

Nonsense. its not practical because of the time taken to withdraw cash from exchanges. Any arbitrage opportunity is quickly filled by market forces.


Title: Re: Buying on 1 exchange and selling on another
Post by: EvilPanda on December 15, 2013, 04:08:16 PM
I'm sure a lot of users do this already but don't admit it.

Nonsense. its not practical because of the time taken to withdraw cash from exchanges. Any arbitrage opportunity is quickly filled by market forces.
I know people who did this with a profit. It's especially profitable if you convert to other currencies as well.


Title: Re: Buying on 1 exchange and selling on another
Post by: adam9317 on December 15, 2013, 04:11:39 PM
I'm sure a lot of users do this already but don't admit it.

Nonsense. its not practical because of the time taken to withdraw cash from exchanges. Any arbitrage opportunity is quickly filled by market forces.
I know people who did this with a profit. It's especially profitable if you convert to other currencies as well.

Do you know which websites are best for this?


Title: Re: Buying on 1 exchange and selling on another
Post by: Sindelar1938 on December 15, 2013, 04:12:40 PM
No, arbitrage is not currently possible across btc exchanges due to extraction limits and long times



Title: Re: Buying on 1 exchange and selling on another
Post by: EvilPanda on December 15, 2013, 04:48:20 PM
I'm sure a lot of users do this already but don't admit it.

Nonsense. its not practical because of the time taken to withdraw cash from exchanges. Any arbitrage opportunity is quickly filled by market forces.
I know people who did this with a profit. It's especially profitable if you convert to other currencies as well.

Do you know which websites are best for this?
Right now it's not the best time to do this because of big swings. BTC goes up and down by 100$ each day so you can earn without arbitrage.
When a price is more stable it can be profitable. Example - Mt.Gox USD price is always higher than other exchanges, if you buy on btc-e or bitstamp and sell on gox you have instant profit, but as others wrote here, the withdrawal time is long so it may take weeks before you get your fiat and can buy again.


Title: Re: Buying on 1 exchange and selling on another
Post by: adam9317 on December 15, 2013, 05:11:49 PM
I'm sure a lot of users do this already but don't admit it.

Nonsense. its not practical because of the time taken to withdraw cash from exchanges. Any arbitrage opportunity is quickly filled by market forces.
I know people who did this with a profit. It's especially profitable if you convert to other currencies as well.

Do you know which websites are best for this?
Right now it's not the best time to do this because of big swings. BTC goes up and down by 100$ each day so you can earn without arbitrage.
When a price is more stable it can be profitable. Example - Mt.Gox USD price is always higher than other exchanges, if you buy on btc-e or bitstamp and sell on gox you have instant profit, but as others wrote here, the withdrawal time is long so it may take weeks before you get your fiat and can buy again.


Thankyou for your help


Title: Re: Buying on 1 exchange and selling on another
Post by: daybyter on December 15, 2013, 09:13:38 PM
I wrote me a bot to check for opportunities, but it's long ago, that I actually did such trades. It might work, if 2 parties in different countries collaborate, though.

https://i.imgur.com/OoP0aNo.jpg


Title: Re: Buying on 1 exchange and selling on another
Post by: Kinderachtig on December 15, 2013, 09:42:30 PM
There are websites which make this possible.
There is a particulair site where you can sell bitcoins for 3100 TRL (= 1550 usd) fixed price.

My secret :)


Title: Re: Buying on 1 exchange and selling on another
Post by: empoweoqwj on December 16, 2013, 02:30:46 AM
There are websites which make this possible.
There is a particulair site where you can sell bitcoins for 3100 TRL (= 1550 usd) fixed price.

My secret :)

Thanks for sharing that.  Very useful.


Title: Re: Buying on 1 exchange and selling on another
Post by: tskweres on December 16, 2013, 08:27:38 AM
Customers of ours have had really great success arbing between us and Bitstamp. In many cases the BTC spread has been $70 or more.



Title: Re: Buying on 1 exchange and selling on another
Post by: dc0ded on December 16, 2013, 11:09:36 AM
There are websites which make this possible.
There is a particulair site where you can sell bitcoins for 3100 TRL (= 1550 usd) fixed price.

My secret :)

Do you mind sharing the website's URL with me on personal message?


Title: Re: Buying on 1 exchange and selling on another
Post by: empoweoqwj on December 16, 2013, 12:11:53 PM
Customers of ours have had really great success arbing between us and Bitstamp. In many cases the BTC spread has been $70 or more.



And who is "us" if you don't mind me asking?


Title: Re: Buying on 1 exchange and selling on another
Post by: atlosas on December 16, 2013, 12:57:05 PM
I do a lot of arbitrage and it is possible. Some markets are usually higher in price and some are lower. Buy on btc-e and bitstamp and sell on smaller ones.


Title: Re: Buying on 1 exchange and selling on another
Post by: adam9317 on December 16, 2013, 02:45:25 PM
Customers of ours have had really great success arbing between us and Bitstamp. In many cases the BTC spread has been $70 or more.



Can you share the URL with me on PM as well.


Title: Re: Buying on 1 exchange and selling on another
Post by: zhinkk on December 16, 2013, 10:01:07 PM
As others have stated, arbitrage is definitely a thing and I even saw a guide on it somewhere, but the long withdraw times and the volatility of bitcoin doesn't work well together. You'd be better off just day trading it or holding it or whatever you do to make money instead of arbitrage.


Title: Re: Buying on 1 exchange and selling on another
Post by: Ruzka on December 16, 2013, 11:52:50 PM
It's possible but usually not worth the trouble and the fees. :-\


Title: Re: Buying on 1 exchange and selling on another
Post by: coinfarm on December 17, 2013, 04:47:34 AM
Customers of ours have had really great success arbing between us and Bitstamp. In many cases the BTC spread has been $70 or more.



Travis, is there a faster and more reliable way to fund coinmkt accounts with USD other than money orders since OkPay doesn't work for folks in the US anymore?


Title: Re: Buying on 1 exchange and selling on another
Post by: empoweoqwj on December 17, 2013, 06:54:44 AM
It's possible but usually not worth the trouble and the fees. :-\

Given the long withdrawal fees, its *extremely* risky. You are better off learning how to trade well.