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Title: Alternate crypto is huge
Post by: GreekBitcoin on December 16, 2013, 08:46:36 AM
I think some subforums are needed. Like giveaways,general discussion, and like "One thread per crypto"





Title: Re: Alternate crypto is huge
Post by: infinitybo on December 16, 2013, 09:18:32 AM
That should be more effective to suggest this directly to an administrator.


Title: Re: Alternate crypto is huge
Post by: Sindelar1938 on December 16, 2013, 12:06:56 PM
I like the present approach better
Most of the alternative cryptos are gimmicky and patently exist just to suck in newcomers who think they are late to ltc and btc
Once they prove themselves over a period of time, they can aspire to their own sub forum


Title: Re: Alternate crypto is huge
Post by: MiningBuddy on December 16, 2013, 12:30:24 PM
This is bitcointalk, I don't think any alternative should even be on this forum personally.


Title: Re: Alternate crypto is huge
Post by: wumpus on December 16, 2013, 12:55:20 PM
This is bitcointalk, I don't think any alternative should even be on this forum personally.
+1
Altcoin developers can make their own talk forums.


Title: Re: Alternate crypto is huge
Post by: Lewis2 on December 16, 2013, 01:10:10 PM
This many altcoins is blocking development of bitcoin, no need to support it.


Title: Re: Alternate crypto is huge
Post by: hilariousandco on December 16, 2013, 04:22:52 PM
I think the alternative currency section is fine, but it is a bit cluttered with all the alt coins that pop up every other day, but I don't think it needs to be divided up further.

This many altcoins is blocking development of bitcoin, no need to support it.

How is it blocking development?



Title: Re: Alternate crypto is huge
Post by: nate008 on December 16, 2013, 04:30:51 PM
They are fine like that.
Also alt coins should develop their own communities if they want to get rid of the clone status.
If they are unable to do that and still rely on bitcointalk to lure people into their schemes , then they don't deserve anything better than this.


Title: Re: Alternate crypto is huge
Post by: tysat on December 16, 2013, 04:32:56 PM
It's not going to happen.  The alt-coin section exists so there's a place to throw discussion about alt-coins, because otherwise it'd be spread out all over the board.


Title: Re: Alternate crypto is huge
Post by: hilariousandco on December 16, 2013, 04:37:19 PM
They are fine like that.
Also alt coins should develop their own communities if they want to get rid of the clone status.
If they are unable to do that and still rely on bitcointalk to lure people into their schemes , then they don't deserve anything better than this.


I think a decent community and development behind an alt coin is what set them apart from others, but most of these coins have neither.


Title: Re: Alternate crypto is huge
Post by: jackjack on December 16, 2013, 06:25:09 PM
This is bitcointalk, I don't think any alternative should even be on this forum personally.
This is bitcointalk, I don't think any alternative should even be on this forum personally.
+1
Altcoin developers can make their own talk forums.
+1


Title: Re: Alternate crypto is huge
Post by: whiskers75 on December 16, 2013, 06:55:14 PM
This is bitcointalk, I don't think any alternative should even be on this forum personally.
This is bitcointalk, I don't think any alternative should even be on this forum personally.
+1
Altcoin developers can make their own talk forums.
+1
+1


Title: Re: Alternate crypto is huge
Post by: Notanon on December 29, 2013, 09:23:41 AM
I only haunt the altcoin section nowadays due to a couple of developers working on altcoin miners that only seems to be on here. Other than that, I browse Litecointalk.org and Peercointalk.org to keep abreast of developments on there.

I'm also tempted to make a thread with links to altcoin mining software threads and try and get it sticked so I don't have to sift through tons of announcement and giveaway threads to try and find them, which is getting tedious as it is. There's one with a list of most of the alts, it'd be a perfect complimentary thread.


Title: Re: Alternate crypto is huge
Post by: NxtChg on January 01, 2014, 10:06:50 AM
It's pretty much unusable now. Should split it into sub-forums for each currency.


Title: Re: Alternate crypto is huge
Post by: hilariousandco on January 01, 2014, 10:57:03 AM
It's pretty much unusable now. Should split it into sub-forums for each currency.

This is bitcointalk, I don't think any alternative should even be on this forum personally.
+1
Altcoin developers can make their own talk forums.


See above. It's a mess, but the individual child boards would probably also be a mess, and new coins are coming out daily; it'd be a fuss and faff to have to keep adding boards.


Title: Re: Alternate crypto is huge
Post by: cerleo on January 01, 2014, 01:17:38 PM
The situation right now seems reasonable.I think it doesn't need to be changed.


Title: Re: Alternate crypto is huge
Post by: DooMAD on January 01, 2014, 02:22:29 PM
I made a few comments in this similar topic (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=383794.40).


If it were me, I'd go for:

Alternate Cryptocurrencies
/ New Coin Launches
/ Giveaways
/ Other Discussion

Since those seem to be the main varieties of topic and it would put them all in the same place. 

If a thread I replied to 4 hours ago is already on page 6, then it's an incredibly busy forum and could do with being spread out a bit.

And as for saying altcoins should go to another website:

I can certainly understand why people feel that way, but like it or not, this place is a victim of it's own success.  Of all the places on the internet where people talk about cryptocurrency, this place is #1.

So you have to ask yourself what's best for the future of cryptocurrencies.  Obviously you feel it's best if scam coins and novelty coins aren't posted about here, since it tarnishes the reputation of Bitcoin.  But I'd argue that it's better they're discussed here, where veterans can tell the newbs that it's a scam or a waste of time.  If you pack the newbs off to some dark and dirty corner of the net to talk about the next insert-meme-here-coin, they're going to get ripped off and assume that all cryptos are a con.  I'd say that will lead to more people being given a bad impression and would lead to less adoption of Bitcoin overall.

Keep the discussion here, where people can keep watch and prevent scams.  Even if you feel Bitcoin doesn't "need" alts to succeed, that fact is that they're here and it's better you don't try to sweep them under the carpet and pretend they don't exist, otherwise their reputation could drag yours down with it.


Title: Re: Alternate crypto is huge
Post by: bitpop on January 01, 2014, 03:08:41 PM
Read our url


Title: Re: Alternate crypto is huge
Post by: DooMAD on January 01, 2014, 04:37:31 PM
Read our url
Such a persuasive and comprehensively compelling counterpoint.   ::)

Everyone has seen the url and funnily enough there's still a bajillion threads talking about alts.  I could leave an equally asinine reply and say "read the thread title".  I don't think every alt should have it's own subforum, that would indeed be a nightmare.  Separating launch/giveaways/general threads would just be much easier to navigate then everything all piled in one place.


Title: Re: Alternate crypto is huge
Post by: bitpop on January 02, 2014, 11:30:58 AM
Read our url
Such a persuasive and comprehensively compelling counterpoint.   ::)

Everyone has seen the url and funnily enough there's still a bajillion threads talking about alts.  I could leave an equally asinine reply and say "read the thread title".  I don't think every alt should have it's own subforum, that would indeed be a nightmare.  Separating launch/giveaways/general threads would just be much easier to navigate then everything all piled in one place.

Too bad there's no trusted party to develop altcointalk.org


Title: Re: Alternate crypto is huge
Post by: dewdeded on January 02, 2014, 02:12:16 PM
It's not going to happen.  The alt-coin section exists so there's a place to throw discussion about alt-coins, because otherwise it'd be spread out all over the board.
Fail! It happend.


Title: Re: Alternate crypto is huge
Post by: e521 on January 02, 2014, 02:15:47 PM
It's not going to happen. The alt-coin section exists so there's a place to throw discussion about alt-coins, because otherwise it'd be spread out all over the board.
Fail! It happend.

well, they just divided thread by "spam type".
It's still the same mess and actually I expected a much stronger line from bitcointalk


Title: Re: Alternate crypto is huge
Post by: hilariousandco on January 02, 2014, 03:24:44 PM
It's not going to happen. The alt-coin section exists so there's a place to throw discussion about alt-coins, because otherwise it'd be spread out all over the board.
Fail! It happend.

well, they just divided thread by "spam type".
It's still the same mess and actually I expected a much stronger line from bitcointalk

Well I didn't expect this to happen. Seems like more work for the mods though.


Title: Re: Alternate crypto is huge
Post by: guybrushthreepwood on January 02, 2014, 05:06:13 PM
Can we get a new section for Trollcoins? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=395747.0;topicseen


Title: Re: Alternate crypto is huge
Post by: bitpop on January 02, 2014, 05:10:19 PM
It's not going to happen. The alt-coin section exists so there's a place to throw discussion about alt-coins, because otherwise it'd be spread out all over the board.
Fail! It happend.

well, they just divided thread by "spam type".
It's still the same mess and actually I expected a much stronger line from bitcointalk

Well I didn't expect this to happen. Seems like more work for the mods though.

What happened?


Title: Re: Alternate crypto is huge
Post by: hilariousandco on January 02, 2014, 05:12:24 PM
It's not going to happen. The alt-coin section exists so there's a place to throw discussion about alt-coins, because otherwise it'd be spread out all over the board.
Fail! It happend.

well, they just divided thread by "spam type".
It's still the same mess and actually I expected a much stronger line from bitcointalk

Well I didn't expect this to happen. Seems like more work for the mods though.

What happened?

New sub forums in the alt coin section.


Title: Re: Alternate crypto is huge
Post by: jackjack on January 03, 2014, 12:00:59 AM
Good luck SaltySpitoon...


Title: Re: Alternate crypto is huge
Post by: BadBear on January 03, 2014, 03:06:44 AM
Ugh, and so it begins...


Title: Re: Alternate crypto is huge
Post by: SaltySpitoon on January 03, 2014, 03:15:03 AM
well, they just divided thread by "spam type".
It's still the same mess and actually I expected a much stronger line from bitcointalk

That it is, its still the crammed messy organized chaos that we have grown to love, however you should now be able to more or less what sort of spam you are looking for, be it mining help, looking for a new coin, or looking to buy/sell stuff. All of our expectations were zero, so the subforums are blowing minds.

Well I didn't expect this to happen. Seems like more work for the mods though.

Very slightly, its divided just enough to soothe my OCD fueled homicidal rage that built inside of me everytime I saw someone try to sell something, or announce a new interesting service and their listing disappeared under piles of "BUY BUY BUY THIS NEW SCAMCOIN OR YOU WILL BE SORRY"

Good luck SaltySpitoon...

Hehe, thanks.

Ugh, and so it begins...

Batman Begins?


Title: Re: Alternate crypto is huge
Post by: BadBear on January 03, 2014, 05:29:55 AM
well, they just divided thread by "spam type".
It's still the same mess and actually I expected a much stronger line from bitcointalk

That it is, its still the crammed messy organized chaos that we have grown to love, however you should now be able to more or less what sort of spam you are looking for, be it mining help, looking for a new coin, or looking to buy/sell stuff. All of our expectations were zero, so the subforums are blowing minds.

Well I didn't expect this to happen. Seems like more work for the mods though.

Very slightly, its divided just enough to soothe my OCD fueled homicidal rage that built inside of me everytime I saw someone try to sell something, or announce a new interesting service and their listing disappeared under piles of "BUY BUY BUY THIS NEW SCAMCOIN OR YOU WILL BE SORRY"

Good luck SaltySpitoon...

Hehe, thanks.

Ugh, and so it begins...

Batman Begins?

Beginning of altcointalk. Just curious how long until the entire forum has been replicated under alt currencies.

 
well, they just divided thread by "spam type".
It's still the same mess and actually I expected a much stronger line from bitcointalk

So did I...

Not really a correct answer to give to additional requests except 'Maybe, they've caved before, post/pm more about it'.


Title: Re: Alternate crypto is huge
Post by: Mt. Dox on January 03, 2014, 05:35:29 AM
We should just delete every altcoin thread. They don't belong here, people using them are taking huge risks. None of them have any sort of third-party audit, most of them are just sending you unsigned compiled binaries that could be packed with spyware and all sorts of nasty shit. All of them are pump-and-dump schemes as far as  I'm concerned. Seriously people, dogecoin, your taking the piss...


Title: Re: Alternate crypto is huge
Post by: deepceleron on January 04, 2014, 12:23:06 AM
Three new alt-coin subforums added = my "show unread posts" is instantly flooded with new scamcoin announce threads. These add nothing to the community, and should be banished. Lock the entire sections, and replace it all with a single moderator sticky to other forums these people set up on their own, and make altcoin talk here against the board policies.


Title: Re: Alternate crypto is huge
Post by: theymos on January 04, 2014, 02:40:45 AM
Three new alt-coin subforums added = my "show unread posts" is instantly flooded with new scamcoin announce threads. These add nothing to the community, and should be banished. Lock the entire sections, and replace it all with a single moderator sticky to other forums these people set up on their own, and make altcoin talk here against the board policies.

Add those boards to your ignore boards list if you don't want to see them in your unread posts. I actually manually adjusted settings for people who ignored Alt Cryptocurrencies so they would ignore the new subsections. There were only three such people...


Title: Re: Alternate crypto is huge
Post by: Vod on January 04, 2014, 02:46:48 AM
We should just delete every altcoin thread. They don't belong here, people using them are taking huge risks.

So, people buying bitcoins today at $800 each are NOT taking huge risks?

Quantum computing could render every crypto-coin (including bitcoin) obsolete tomorrow.  You take a risk every time you dabble in ANY crypto coin.


Title: Re: Alternate crypto is huge
Post by: bitpop on January 04, 2014, 07:57:38 AM
We should just delete every altcoin thread. They don't belong here, people using them are taking huge risks.

So, people buying bitcoins today at $800 each are NOT taking huge risks?

Quantum computing could render every crypto-coin (including bitcoin) obsolete tomorrow.  You take a risk every time you dabble in ANY crypto coin.

Quantom computers aren't good at everything, even if they were, just raise difficulty to 100 trillion, you are spreading fud


Title: Re: Alternate crypto is huge
Post by: BadBear on January 04, 2014, 08:02:46 AM
Three new alt-coin subforums added = my "show unread posts" is instantly flooded with new scamcoin announce threads. These add nothing to the community, and should be banished. Lock the entire sections, and replace it all with a single moderator sticky to other forums these people set up on their own, and make altcoin talk here against the board policies.

Add those boards to your ignore boards list if you don't want to see them in your unread posts. I actually manually adjusted settings for people who ignored Alt Cryptocurrencies so they would ignore the new subsections. There were only three such people...

I think the fact that so few people are utilizing that feature means it's not a good solution. Alt currencies can be somewhat interesting sometimes, so I don't want to completely ignore the board just to make sure that looking at the latest threads is relevant to bitcoin, seeing it's still a bitcoin forum. The alt spam is only going to get worse, there's even automated altcoin generators now https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=396991.0

Maybe it could depend on where you're checking it from, if I'm in bitcoin discussion, and I click that link, then it should exclude alt currencies and foreign languages. If I'm in alt currencies, then it will exclude bitcoin forum threads.


Title: Re: Alternate crypto is huge
Post by: deepceleron on January 04, 2014, 08:11:15 AM
Three new alt-coin subforums added = my "show unread posts" is instantly flooded with new scamcoin announce threads. These add nothing to the community, and should be banished. Lock the entire sections, and replace it all with a single moderator sticky to other forums these people set up on their own, and make altcoin talk here against the board policies.

Add those boards to your ignore boards list if you don't want to see them in your unread posts. I actually manually adjusted settings for people who ignored Alt Cryptocurrencies so they would ignore the new subsections. There were only three such people...
One of the members ignoring alt currency is me, and I had to go into "ignore boards" and check the ignore boxes for the new forums - they were not checked. The same thing happens when a new local sub is created.


Title: Re: Alternate crypto is huge
Post by: BadBear on January 04, 2014, 08:23:48 AM
Three new alt-coin subforums added = my "show unread posts" is instantly flooded with new scamcoin announce threads. These add nothing to the community, and should be banished. Lock the entire sections, and replace it all with a single moderator sticky to other forums these people set up on their own, and make altcoin talk here against the board policies.

Add those boards to your ignore boards list if you don't want to see them in your unread posts. I actually manually adjusted settings for people who ignored Alt Cryptocurrencies so they would ignore the new subsections. There were only three such people...
One of the members ignoring alt currency is me, and I had to go into "ignore boards" and check the ignore boxes for the new forums - they were not checked. The same thing happens when a new local sub is created.

I would take that to mean there's more than 3 and he missed something.