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Economy => Speculation => Topic started by: Edward50 on December 17, 2013, 02:08:16 AM



Title: Its looking Ugly, and will get worse!
Post by: Edward50 on December 17, 2013, 02:08:16 AM
I'm feeling your pain, because I decided to buy 3 bitcoins around $700-900 to play around with. Now I am in the process of liquidating all my positions. Luckily 1 of my positions is up so much that I am breaking even right now. My goal is to break even and get out, just like I did in 2011 when I decided to buy a few to speculate with on mt gox.

So I feel your guys pain with the losses that will come. I am also taking losses, however small.

Many people could not understand why I never invested in bitcoins after the first bubble, watching the price fall from $30 to $2.00. Now you will hopefully understand. You will also understand more after a long prolonged fall as this is just the start. You will see just how ugly speculating is.

A fall from $30 to $2.00 is like a fall from $1000 to $66 dollars. You would also be doubtful about bitcoins at $66 after a long fall like that when bitcoins were only selling for $13 in January. Anyway, times were different then and bitcoins are much more tested and popular now so it would be easier to speculate at $66 dollar bitcoins than it was in 2011 and early 2012 when anything could have happened.

Hopefully your all slowly exiting and cashing in at the still high prices you can get.


 


Title: Re: Its looking Ugly, and will get worse!
Post by: BitcoinTate on December 17, 2013, 02:15:16 AM
The cat just bounced in china and she is on her way down again! Hold on boys, its gonna be a rough one!


Title: Re: Its looking Ugly, and will get worse!
Post by: danielW on December 17, 2013, 02:16:48 AM
lol not gonna happen, worst case scenario  $700 at least early January 8 Jan.


Title: Re: Its looking Ugly, and will get worse!
Post by: danielW on December 17, 2013, 02:18:01 AM
and its probably gonna be back around $800 by friday, so much unnecessary fear and panic now.


Title: Re: Its looking Ugly, and will get worse!
Post by: tacotime on December 17, 2013, 02:19:25 AM
Ho ho ho, Merry Christmas!


Title: Re: Its looking Ugly, and will get worse!
Post by: traderCJ on December 17, 2013, 02:21:00 AM
I am liquidating some of my positions as well.  Fortunately, I bought in far below the current price, so I'm just crying in my beer here.  I had a hunch December was going to be brutal.  I am bullish long term, but it seems like nothing but bad news and volatility, thanks to China.  Bitcoin swims along quite nicely as long as the press is positive.  I don't think we're going to get much rally-inspiring press until the new year.  Let's face it, the Bitcoin sentiment machine needs to be replenished frequently with good vibes.  Probably not going to happen for a few weeks.  We also need to get China hype priced out of Bitcoin.  As it is right now, the exchanges are damn near pegged to BTC China.  BTC China reacts violently to anything that smells of gov't regulation, for good reason.  Thus, the often flippant Chinese gov't can yank coin prices around like no other.  This has to stop.  In a perfect world, I'd rather just un-price China out of Bitcoin.  Totalitarian regimes simply can not and will not tolerate Bitcoin.  In the end, the Chinese pleb loses.  Sad, really.

One more thing, Ed50.  You talk a lot about bubbles, and I think a lot of this talk is incorrect.  There is no such thing as a bubble, rather only rapid changes in speculated value.  Call it what you like, but the word "bubble" implies something that is grown from a nominal point (no bubble -> bubble -> no bubble).  There is NO nominal opinion on the value of something .. it fluctuates constantly.


Title: Re: Its looking Ugly, and will get worse!
Post by: BTCtrader71 on December 17, 2013, 02:53:47 AM
Many people could not understand why I never invested in bitcoins after the first bubble, watching the price fall from $30 to $2.00. Now you will hopefully understand. You will also understand more after a long prolonged fall as this is just the start. You will see just how ugly speculating is.

I agree with you that speculating is ugly; but investing is a different matter. An investor who believes in the fundamental value of bitcoin would have held even at $2. The speculator sells for no other reason than that the market is down.

Think of it this way. If you invest in bitcoin and it ends up going to zero forever (for whatever reason), you at least have the satisfaction of having supported something you believe in. If you speculate and lose your money, you don't have that.


Title: Re: Its looking Ugly, and will get worse!
Post by: pand70 on December 17, 2013, 02:55:57 AM
I'm feeling your pain, because I decided to buy 3 bitcoins around $700-900 to play around with. Now I am in the process of liquidating all my positions.

You have a 2 and half years old account and you bought 3 bitcoins at 900$ just to get your feet wet? Something is off here...


Title: Re: Its looking Ugly, and will get worse!
Post by: humanitee on December 17, 2013, 02:57:49 AM
I'm feeling your pain, because I decided to buy 3 bitcoins around $700-900 to play around with. Now I am in the process of liquidating all my positions.

You have a 2 and half years old account and you bought 3 bitcoins at 900$ just to get your feet wet? Something is off here...

The dreaded double butthurt, god have mercy on his soul.


Title: Re: Its looking Ugly, and will get worse!
Post by: Oldminer on December 17, 2013, 03:04:24 AM
FUD FUD FUD lol

Ah Edward..we go back a long time don't we? And if I recall correctly, you were spreading FUD back in 2011? Anyway, seeing as you did so bad at trading I'll offer you some free financial advice: Buy now before the price bounces back up  ;)


Title: Re: Its looking Ugly, and will get worse!
Post by: Edward50 on December 17, 2013, 03:05:59 AM
I'm feeling your pain, because I decided to buy 3 bitcoins around $700-900 to play around with. Now I am in the process of liquidating all my positions.

You have a 2 and half years old account and you bought 3 bitcoins at 900$ just to get your feet wet? Something is off here...

Well, my other purchase was on mt gox, and I never bothered to move the bitcoins from mt gox. There just wasn't any reason to use them back then. I used them a lot now to speculate with.



Title: Re: Its looking Ugly, and will get worse!
Post by: Edward50 on December 17, 2013, 03:11:02 AM
FUD FUD FUD lol

Ah Edward..we go back a long time don't we? And if I recall correctly, you were spreading FUD back in 2011? Anyway, seeing as you did so bad at trading I'll offer you some free financial advice: Buy now before the price bounces back up  ;)

Well I did predict we were going to go really low then and I was right. I was only active during the drop. Nobody liked hearing the truth back then and also today.


Title: Re: Its looking Ugly, and will get worse!
Post by: Dafar on December 17, 2013, 03:13:40 AM
Lol Edward is pissed that he actually had BTC back in 2011..... and he's still at a loss! fucking LOL to you my friend


Title: Re: Its looking Ugly, and will get worse!
Post by: Oldminer on December 17, 2013, 03:20:25 AM
FUD FUD FUD lol

Ah Edward..we go back a long time don't we? And if I recall correctly, you were spreading FUD back in 2011? Anyway, seeing as you did so bad at trading I'll offer you some free financial advice: Buy now before the price bounces back up  ;)

Well I did predict we were going to go really low then and I was right. I was only active during the drop. Nobody liked hearing the truth back then and also today.

Maybe, though if you had held your coins back then how much money would you have today?

Here, have a couple of charts to consider (the 1st chart is from chartschool.com):

https://i.imgur.com/ZM8iP0n.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/fUkZZ8T.jpg


Title: Re: Its looking Ugly, and will get worse!
Post by: spiderbrain on December 17, 2013, 03:48:36 AM
Worse or better? I sold some of my bitcoins at >$1000 because it was way over the log chart, and now I get to buy them back at half price? That sounds great! I suppose it makes it easier if you bought them for $5...


Title: Re: Its looking Ugly, and will get worse!
Post by: pbody on December 17, 2013, 04:05:38 AM
perspective:

2 months ago btc was at 110, and that was with China.


Title: Re: Its looking Ugly, and will get worse!
Post by: MindGrenade on December 17, 2013, 04:24:48 AM
Haha you say $30 to $2 is like 1000 to 66.. But you fail to realise 1 to 30 is like 100 to 3000. The higher it climbs the harder it falls, not taking into account btc is much more than it was then too. The same with the calculations basing this crash off Aprils. Yes it fell 70% but it gained much more than this rally then too.

I'm still seeing 550 as the low. We may hit it again, and in the coming weeks and months we will see a rally again towards 3-4000.


Title: Re: Its looking Ugly, and will get worse!
Post by: GriTBitS on December 17, 2013, 04:26:43 AM
I'm feeling your pain, because I decided to buy 3 bitcoins around $700-900 to play around with. Now I am in the process of liquidating all my positions.

You have a 2 and half years old account and you bought 3 bitcoins at 900$ just to get your feet wet? Something is off here...


that dude is like the biggest fucking troll on this forum!!! him and some dude called accord1 or something like that. Every time i start reading one of their posts im like what the fuck is this, then i look over and see the name and im like OOOO no fucking wonder!


Title: Re: Its looking Ugly, and will get worse!
Post by: pand70 on December 17, 2013, 05:31:41 AM
Here, have a couple of charts to consider:


A rumor can absolutely crash bitcoin even before it gets confirmed and you guys still post charts of double tops, double bottoms and elliott waves?
Technical analysis 101 doesn't work on bitcoin.


Title: Re: Its looking Ugly, and will get worse!
Post by: seleme on December 17, 2013, 05:55:09 AM
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My goal is to break even and get out, just like I did in 2011 when I decided to buy a few to speculate with on mt gox.

I feel sorry for you, buying in 2011 and only breaking out  :'( :-\

What a shit of investor you are mate  ;D


Title: Re: Its looking Ugly, and will get worse!
Post by: Oldminer on December 26, 2013, 05:31:06 PM
http://www.tshirtlockdown.com/images/troll-face-mem-tshirt.jpg


Title: Re: Its looking Ugly, and will get worse!
Post by: jamesc760 on December 26, 2013, 07:25:59 PM
The only thing looking ugly is the op's face. $800 at mtgox right now and rising!


Title: Re: Its looking Ugly, and will get worse!
Post by: cr1776 on December 26, 2013, 09:33:18 PM
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My goal is to break even and get out, just like I did in 2011 when I decided to buy a few to speculate with on mt gox.

I feel sorry for you, buying in 2011 and only breaking out  :'( :-\

What a shit of investor you are mate  ;D

Yeah, why do it if the goal is to break even?  Better to just not waste the time!  ;D


Title: Re: Its looking Ugly, and will get worse!
Post by: piramida on December 26, 2013, 09:51:21 PM
Even my blind grandma can make money on bitcoin. And she did, I gave her 1BTC casascius 2 years ago, she already has 10,000% profit. Much better trader than Mucus ;)


Title: Re: Its looking Ugly, and will get worse!
Post by: GeniuSxBoY on December 26, 2013, 09:55:22 PM
http://thephilanews.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Asiana-Airlines-Plane-Crash-Lands-at-San-Francisco-International-Airport.jpg


Thread was just plane wrong.


Title: Re: Its looking Ugly, and will get worse!
Post by: Wilhelm on December 26, 2013, 11:27:57 PM
It's getting ugly for the thread owner ... he lost his shirt :D


Title: Re: Its looking Ugly, and will get worse!
Post by: jamesc760 on December 27, 2013, 12:52:45 AM
I hope he loses much more than just his shirt. Yes, I am an ass, a rich ass nonetheless!


Title: Re: Its looking Ugly, and will get worse!
Post by: Serge on December 27, 2013, 03:49:20 AM
OP, where do you think BTC will be in a year from now?


Title: Re: Its looking Ugly, and will get worse!
Post by: beetcoin on December 27, 2013, 06:06:52 AM
if you pooled up all the predictions on this forum or anywhere else, i would be willing to guess that it'd be somewhere very close to 50/50... no one really knows what will happen.


Title: Re: Its looking Ugly, and will get worse!
Post by: favelle75 on December 27, 2013, 06:42:19 AM
Lol Edward is pissed that he actually had BTC back in 2011..... and he's still at a loss! fucking LOL to you my friend

I don't understand how ANYONE with a brain could have 2011 BTC's and still be in a losing position. That type of person shouldn't be allowed to touch their own monies...plain and simple.

But I guess if your investing goal is to "break even", then that right there tells us your starting point, LOL.


Title: Re: Its looking Ugly, and will get worse!
Post by: bassclef on December 27, 2013, 07:02:25 AM
Lol Edward is pissed that he actually had BTC back in 2011..... and he's still at a loss! fucking LOL to you my friend

I don't understand how ANYONE with a brain could have 2011 BTC's and still be in a losing position. That type of person shouldn't be allowed to touch their own monies...plain and simple.

But I guess if your investing goal is to "break even", then that right there tells us your starting point, LOL.

I sure hope he has a few. You do have to understand about sentiment surrounding these massive, logarithmic price movements. There are always those who can't see the forest through the trees, and cannot imagine a higher price than today, or this week. It was the same when Bitcoin was $10, and will be if it reaches $10,000.