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Title: A new digital coin: Solv3Coin - coins for cloud computing
Post by: MaGNeT on August 16, 2011, 06:05:58 PM
I was thinking about a new coin: Solv3Coin

What is it?

It's "cloud computing power" that can be hired by buying the coins.
Part of the networkstrenght is used for transactions, another part for calculations (like simulations, etc)

By buying Solv3Coins, you buy computing power on the network anonymously (1 coin = x flops, where x has to be defined).
The computing power is what it gets it's value from.

The clients (GPU / CPU / Asic) form the largest cloud computing network in the world!

I think it can use the basics of the classic Bitcoin network and we need real smart people to get the second part working: cloud computing

Your thoughts?



Title: Re: A new digital coin: Solv3Coin - coins for cloud computing
Post by: MaGNeT on August 17, 2011, 10:15:34 AM
Would the internet and PCI-E 1x be fast enough for the calculations of cloud computing?
What calculations could be done?


Title: Re: A new digital coin: Solv3Coin - coins for cloud computing
Post by: MaGNeT on August 18, 2011, 04:29:26 PM
Hmm...  ???


Title: Re: A new digital coin: Solv3Coin - coins for cloud computing
Post by: Fakeman on August 18, 2011, 04:51:52 PM
Is a new blockchain really needed to do this? Why not just use regular bitcoins to pay for computing power? Also, don't most calculations worth paying for involve sensitive data that you wouldn't want available to the public?


Title: Re: A new digital coin: Solv3Coin - coins for cloud computing
Post by: AlcaDotS on August 18, 2011, 05:22:37 PM
I like the idea of giving the network/coin real value (computing power for hire) and using the immense power of the network for something productive. I heard some suggestions to limit mining power per IP adres to 5 MH/s to limit the waste of electricity and the remaining capacity could then be used for usefull purposes... I'm not quite sure how it would work but I think you've got an interesting starting point for discussion :)


Title: Re: A new digital coin: Solv3Coin - coins for cloud computing
Post by: ifinta on January 04, 2012, 06:55:18 AM
It is very interesting. I have Ideas (greencoin) to use less computing power for mining - the remainder 95% is usable for a "cloud". It isn't implemented yet. It is just in a phase "brainstorming".

Greencoin (ZC):
...
(1) - I think the current VOTING in Bitcoin system (with the current "difficulty"-system) can be a good compromise - but the voting must be scheduled at a low and fixed frequence with a new communication protocol. 
...
Satoshi' paper (only the first paragraph "Abstract") criticism:
...
"Digital signatures provide part of the solution, but the main benefits are lost if
 a trusted third party is still required to prevent double-spending."

- A trusted third party (in greencoin) isn't required for prevent double-spending, it is required
to prevent 50%+1 attack. The trusted third party should be the community
of users/miners/guests/moderators of greencoin... The community of our money.

"The longest chain not only serves as proof of the sequence of events witnessed,
but proof that it came from the largest pool of CPU power."

- The longest chain not only serves as proof of the sequence of events witnessed,
but proof that it came from the largest pool of trusted miners. "power" is
a possible means of a "centralised authority" - please, do not use it for prevent double-spending :)

"The network itself requires minimal structure. Messages are broadcast on
a best effort basis, and nodes can leave and rejoin the network at will,
accepting the longest proof-of-work chain as proof of what happened while they were gone."

- "best effort" = "power" => The network should be redesign too.
...


Title: Re: A new digital coin: Solv3Coin - coins for cloud computing
Post by: MaGNeT on January 04, 2012, 08:13:25 PM
It is very interesting. I have Ideas (greencoin) to use less computing power for mining - the remainder 95% is usable for a "cloud". It isn't implemented yet. It is just in a phase "brainstorming".

Greencoin (ZC):
...
(1) - I think the current VOTING in Bitcoin system (with the current "difficulty"-system) can be a good compromise - but the voting must be scheduled at a low and fixed frequence with a new communication protocol. 
...
Satoshi' paper (only the first paragraph "Abstract") criticism:
...
"Digital signatures provide part of the solution, but the main benefits are lost if
 a trusted third party is still required to prevent double-spending."

- A trusted third party (in greencoin) isn't required for prevent double-spending, it is required
to prevent 50%+1 attack. The trusted third party should be the community
of users/miners/guests/moderators of greencoin... The community of our money.

"The longest chain not only serves as proof of the sequence of events witnessed,
but proof that it came from the largest pool of CPU power."

- The longest chain not only serves as proof of the sequence of events witnessed,
but proof that it came from the largest pool of trusted miners. "power" is
a possible means of a "centralised authority" - please, do not use it for prevent double-spending :)

"The network itself requires minimal structure. Messages are broadcast on
a best effort basis, and nodes can leave and rejoin the network at will,
accepting the longest proof-of-work chain as proof of what happened while they were gone."

- "best effort" = "power" => The network should be redesign too.
...


:)