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Title: Korean Authorities Raids Upbit Cryptocurrency Exchange
Post by: coinpediaJordan on May 12, 2018, 06:39:27 AM
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World’s largest cryptocurrency exchange Upbit, is raided by South Korean prosecutors. Bestowing to a prosecutor from the Seoul Southern District Prosecutors’ office, on Thursday and Friday the government has searched the exchange’s office.

Read news here: https://coinpedia.org/news/korean-authorities-raids-upbit/


Title: Re: Korean Authorities Raids Upbit Cryptocurrency Exchange
Post by: BarbusseH on May 12, 2018, 07:44:12 AM
...The report says exchange was allegedly selling cryptocurrency to its customer without holding it in real time...
How to prove this statement, and how to prove this malicious intent of the owners of the exchange, and not the technical or software particular qualities
 of the equipment?


Title: Re: Korean Authorities Raids Upbit Cryptocurrency Exchange
Post by: coinwizard_ on May 13, 2018, 10:13:53 AM
Sadly this caused another bear moment in the market, coupled with the movement of the mt gox bitcoins, the timing of these events is most unfortunate. We'll just have to hope that the authorities do not uncover anything so we can all resume profitable trading again.


Title: Re: Korean Authorities Raids Upbit Cryptocurrency Exchange
Post by: npredtorch on May 13, 2018, 11:26:13 AM
Sadly this caused another bear moment in the market, coupled with the movement of the mt gox bitcoins, the timing of these events is most unfortunate. We'll just have to hope that the authorities do not uncover anything so we can all resume profitable trading again.

One thing is assured, if it's a korean news it is guaranteed to affect the market whether it is negative or positive.

What do you mean to not uncover anything? Do you think that it is not just about the current issue?
I can't think any sort of illegal activities that an exchange can do except for market manipulation and stealing customer funds.


Title: Re: Korean Authorities Raids Upbit Cryptocurrency Exchange
Post by: Tankdestroyer on May 13, 2018, 11:52:24 AM
How to prove this statement, and how to prove this malicious intent of the owners of the exchange, and not the technical or software particular qualities
 of the equipment?
You don't need to prove anything, leave it up to investigators in charge of Upbit's case.
I can't think any sort of illegal activities that an exchange can do except for market manipulation and stealing customer funds.
They probably haven't tried stealing customer funds nor market manipulation, it's just that I think they are taking the matter personally. They might have been alarmed to large volumes of crypto trading and many profits made by crypto users from it. the statement that made me think that they are really acting based on the subjective opinion of their government official is this:
Quote from: Prime Minister Lee Nak-yon link=https://coinpedia.org/news/korean-authorities-raids-upbit/
The barrage is alarming official including Prime Minister Lee Nak-yon. He says that cryptocurrency might corrupt the nation’s youngsters.


Title: Re: Korean Authorities Raids Upbit Cryptocurrency Exchange
Post by: crypto002 on May 13, 2018, 12:10:49 PM
Sadly yes and this has casued market to go down again which was recovering after its tough time but I also believe those investors of upbit are real investor of bitcoin They will come back again and I hope the market will bounce back


Title: Re: Korean Authorities Raids Upbit Cryptocurrency Exchange
Post by: npredtorch on May 14, 2018, 12:43:40 AM
They probably haven't tried stealing customer funds nor market manipulation, it's just that I think they are taking the matter personally. They might have been alarmed to large volumes of crypto trading and many profits made by crypto users from it. the statement that made me think that they are really acting based on the subjective opinion of their government official is this:
Quote from: Prime Minister Lee Nak-yon link=https://coinpedia.org/news/korean-authorities-raids-upbit/
The barrage is alarming official including Prime Minister Lee Nak-yon. He says that cryptocurrency might corrupt the nation’s youngsters.

I think that's just normal behavior for a leader.
If you will subject your businesses (including the citizens) for a regulation I'd think it's only appropriate starting with the bigger and most known.
Also, it will be a good example for the lower level types to pursue & follow these rules.


Title: Re: Korean Authorities Raids Upbit Cryptocurrency Exchange
Post by: gentlemand on May 14, 2018, 12:55:51 AM
One thing is assured, if it's a korean news it is guaranteed to affect the market whether it is negative or positive.

Which I've always struggled to wrap my head around. Korea is a closed market. No money can get in or out. In theory it should have much less effect than heaviness in other markets as other markets do cross pollinate.

I guess people are looking for reasons to panic these days.

And how did South Korea let these exchanges arrive out of nowhere and operate in total impunity without any tax or oversight? What kind of amateur hour government permits something like that to happen?


Title: Re: Korean Authorities Raids Upbit Cryptocurrency Exchange
Post by: Msile on May 14, 2018, 05:47:25 PM
South Korea has been cracking down on the cryptocurrency industry to combat excessive speculation and illegal activities such as money laundering, part of a push by governments around the world to rein in digital currency markets.

Over the past few months Korean authorities have raided several smaller crypto venues, outlawed initial coin offerings and banned minors, foreigners and financial institutions from domestic exchanges.

Bitcoin dropped 3.6 percent at 11:21 am on Friday (11th May) after this.


Title: Re: Korean Authorities Raids Upbit Cryptocurrency Exchange
Post by: npredtorch on May 14, 2018, 06:44:44 PM
One thing is assured, if it's a korean news it is guaranteed to affect the market whether it is negative or positive.

Which I've always struggled to wrap my head around. Korea is a closed market. No money can get in or out. In theory it should have much less effect than heaviness in other markets as other markets do cross pollinate.

I guess people are looking for reasons to panic these days.

And how did South Korea let these exchanges arrive out of nowhere and operate in total impunity without any tax or oversight? What kind of amateur hour government permits something like that to happen?

I wouldn't be surprised if they cause this too much roller coaster thing on crypto prices.
The fact is South Korea is still the third biggest market in the world for bitcoin trades. Open market or not doesn't matter, the effect is well describe on events like this.


Title: Re: Korean Authorities Raids Upbit Cryptocurrency Exchange
Post by: Indrawan77 on May 15, 2018, 01:43:05 AM
This news will tainted the crypto reputation, for sure the media for sure wont missed to cover the negative news about crypto, and the government will used this news to try to banned or make a tighter regulation and this won't be good for crypto, this news will caused tge price to plunged down


Title: Re: Korean Authorities Raids Upbit Cryptocurrency Exchange
Post by: squatz1 on May 15, 2018, 05:28:43 PM
No one really knows if this is really an issue as of yet, as there is an investigation which must commence in order to see if there is REALLY an issue -- which is why the word raid makes this sound like they were doing something highly illegal. Reading an article on it from a more reputable site (the merkle - https://themerkle.com/upbits-investigation-has-nothing-to-do-with-fraud-everything-to-do-with-pooled-liquidity/) Says that regulators may simply just be confused with pooled liquidity, as upbit could have been sharing their reserves with othersites

So we'll have to wait and see, that's the only way.


Title: Re: Korean Authorities Raids Upbit Cryptocurrency Exchange
Post by: LeGaulois on May 15, 2018, 07:10:17 PM
South Korea has been cracking down on the cryptocurrency industry to combat excessive speculation and illegal activities such as money laundering, part of a push by governments around the world to rein in digital currency markets.

Over the past few months Korean authorities have raided several smaller crypto venues, outlawed initial coin offerings and banned minors, foreigners and financial institutions from domestic exchanges.

Bitcoin dropped 3.6 percent at 11:21 am on Friday (11th May) after this.

excessive speculation, while banks are speculating with several million in different trades per second 24/24 using bots and let traders like Jerome Kerviel playing the Russian roulette with a trillion or more.
Do you see the irony, I am always amazed by banks and co. playing the victim card