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Bitcoin => Bitcoin Discussion => Topic started by: proudhon on December 18, 2013, 11:57:40 AM



Title: PSA: News and new accounts
Post by: proudhon on December 18, 2013, 11:57:40 AM
My last thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=375376.0) demonstrated my point beautifully, but I just want to be absolutely clear here:  This forum (and r/bitcoin) is being trolled by a horde of new accounts posting essentially the same things and linking to the same obscure "sources".  Somebody or some group is taking advantage of the language barrier between the East and West.  It worked.

What's happened around here is similar to the SA mob in 2011, just applied to market manipulation instead of merely to troll.


Title: Re: PSA: News and new accounts
Post by: Voodah on December 18, 2013, 12:56:22 PM
I got that feeling too.


Title: Re: PSA: News and new accounts
Post by: EvilPanda on December 18, 2013, 01:15:33 PM
Most of the "china news" was spread by people with <20 posts posting a bunch of gibberish straight from google translator.


Title: Re: PSA: News and new accounts
Post by: w1R903 on December 18, 2013, 01:37:59 PM
What's happened around here is similar to the SA mob in 2011, just applied to market manipulation instead of merely to troll.

I agree, but if you think it's bad here, you should see how bad it has gotten the past 2 days in /r/Bitcoin , which was already suffering from a drop in quality as more get-rich-quick types flooded the reddit.  But the past 2 days it's really gotten unbearable.


Title: Re: PSA: News and new accounts
Post by: bitpop on December 18, 2013, 02:27:21 PM
Wtf you made it much worse
That was no example


Title: Re: PSA: News and new accounts
Post by: justusranvier on December 18, 2013, 05:09:01 PM
Hint: Ignore all posters with the gaudy paid signatures and you at least double the SnR.

Don't disable signatures - the existence of a paid signature helps distinguish between a genuine newbie who is posting inane shit because they don't know better and someone who's intentionally posting inane shit to meet their commission requirements.


Title: Re: PSA: News and new accounts
Post by: proudhon on December 18, 2013, 05:29:32 PM
Wtf you made it much worse
That was no example

It was an example of how stupid people were being and how well everyone was playing into what was very likely an organized manipulation attempt by a handful of relatively new accounts.  They took advantage of the noobishness of most bitcoin holders by using some negative news, ramping it up to 11, and counting on translation difficulties to snowball something into a much bigger and scarier looking deal than it is.  

What I did was demonstrate how utterly idiotic people were being.  People are freaking out because other people are creating threads where they write some unsubstantiated scary things and then link to other sources they call "news" that make unsubstantiated scary things that reference "sources" claiming unsubstantiated scary things...in Chinese.

What I posted was so stupid.  Seriously, I typed some things, threw in a few Chinese language links (that had nothing to do with bitcoin), made a list, and put some words in bold.  Anyone frightened or fooled by that thread of mine...I don't even know what to say.


Title: Re: PSA: News and new accounts
Post by: justusranvier on December 18, 2013, 05:49:47 PM
I disabled signatures to de-clutter my screen, but now you've shown me that it can be a valuable tool!
Always glad to help.


Title: Re: PSA: News and new accounts
Post by: EvilPanda on December 18, 2013, 06:11:03 PM
Hint: Ignore all posters with the gaudy paid signatures and you at least double the SnR.

Don't disable signatures - the existence of a paid signature helps distinguish between a genuine newbie who is posting inane shit because they don't know better and someone who's intentionally posting inane shit to meet their commission requirements.

Plz don't :(

But really, what's wrong with signatures. I post here anyway (doing my best not to spam) so why not get some "beer money" for that. Also i've been posting for 5 months with no signature  :-[


Title: Re: PSA: News and new accounts
Post by: Adrian-x on December 19, 2013, 05:52:20 AM
Wtf you made it much worse
That was no example

It was an example of how stupid people were being and how well everyone was playing into what was very likely an organized manipulation attempt by a handful of relatively new accounts.  They took advantage of the noobishness of most bitcoin holders by using some negative news, ramping it up to 11, and counting on translation difficulties to snowball something into a much bigger and scarier looking deal than it is.  

What I did was demonstrate how utterly idiotic people were being.  People are freaking out because other people are creating threads where they write some unsubstantiated scary things and then link to other sources they call "news" that make unsubstantiated scary things that reference "sources" claiming unsubstantiated scary things...in Chinese.

What I posted was so stupid.  Seriously, I typed some things, threw in a few Chinese language links (that had nothing to do with bitcoin), made a list, and put some words in bold.  Anyone frightened or fooled by that thread of mine...I don't even know what to say.

My BS filter may give me blinkers, but you were the only one sprouting this FUD.
I'm sure you picked up a few coins so don't claim the moral high ground. But interesting experiment


Title: Re: PSA: News and new accounts
Post by: bitpop on December 19, 2013, 08:45:23 AM
Scum bag