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Title: market analysis or fortune capital ... !! ??
Post by: Devasasmita on May 13, 2018, 09:44:05 AM
why every trading I always lose. his coin's endurance for weeks went down, when I sold it, the price went up.


Title: Re: market analysis or fortune capital ... !! ??
Post by: Tisubasha on May 13, 2018, 10:11:18 AM
While there are many different methods for evaluating bitcoin prices, fundamental analysis may be the most complete to know the true value.
Fundamental analysis is an evaluation of the economic, financial and other key variables, known as the fundamentals, to determine the true value safely. This is in contrast to technical analysis (companion fundamental analysis) because the first one more interesting to see is the safe price movements to make further and more informed decisions.


Title: Re: market analysis or fortune capital ... !! ??
Post by: Xester on May 13, 2018, 10:16:46 AM
why every trading I always lose. his coin's endurance for weeks went down, when I sold it, the price went up.

The reason why you always lose is because you broke the basic principle in trading and that is to buy low and sell high. Eventually what you did was to  buy high and sell low. That is the reason why you are losing in trading. So just be patient and keep in mind that bitcoins value is volatile and it goes up and down.


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Post by: Getcoinsite on May 13, 2018, 10:20:45 AM
why every trading I always lose. his coin's endurance for weeks went down, when I sold it, the price went up.

The reason why you always lose is because you broke the basic principle in trading and that is to buy low and sell high. Eventually what you did was to  buy high and sell low. That is the reason why you are losing in trading. So just be patient and keep in mind that bitcoins value is volatile and it goes up and down.
And another thing is OP is weak handed trader,he can't resists selling when he saw somethings changing down..

The most popular and weapon of every investor is 'Patience ' and OP is lack of this thats why whatever part of profiteering he enters here,all he can achieve is failure because of this kind of attitude


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Post by: bitfocus on May 13, 2018, 10:25:36 AM
You just need to be a little smart and start reading a lot about Investment, Investment strategies and how to stay calm and have patience. Bitcoin is a serious type investment, either you follow all the rules of investment or you loose.


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Post by: SUDARMONO on May 13, 2018, 10:27:37 AM
That's the result of the unfamiliarity you have, I have a way of trading, usually I buy back the coins I bought when the price goes down, and I provide the reserve fund, and I also patiently endure until the price rises.


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Post by: Pursuer on May 13, 2018, 11:32:24 AM
why every trading I always lose. his coin's endurance for weeks went down, when I sold it, the price went up.

you need to provide a lot more information than this if you want a proper answer. otherwise I have to guess an my guess based on what I have seen from new traders is that you are not "trading" you are "gambling". this means you never buy something because you analyzed and came to a logical conclusion that it will rise, instead you buy something because you felt it may go up based on your gut!  and well that is the definition of gambling. the result is that you sometimes make some profit and sometimes lose where the losing part is the dominant part.

solution? start learning how to trade and stop trying to guess the market randomly. start learning about things that affect it.


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Post by: Devasasmita on May 14, 2018, 12:15:09 AM
thank you for the solution and guidance, I will try to apply. thanks again i am very new here.


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Post by: Zeddyn on May 14, 2018, 12:39:56 AM
I think that's one of your mistakes because of the lack of patience in the trade and no inventory of reserve funds you use.


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Post by: elemosho.crypto on May 14, 2018, 01:46:57 AM
I think it's all about your foreseeing. You should better study more to learn more about the industry that can guide you take the best decision.


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Post by: mustamin88 on May 14, 2018, 01:48:20 AM
Efficient market theory depends on the assumption that all market participants rationalize information and on average the information that all market participants have is true (though no player has all the right information: for example some have good information some have bad information about a company). Efficient markets also require a group of players who will quickly arbitrage when the possibility of arbitrage (profit without risk).


Title: Re: market analysis or fortune capital ... !! ??
Post by: 28days_ever on May 14, 2018, 06:00:24 AM
why every trading I always lose. his coin's endurance for weeks went down, when I sold it, the price went up.
Haste and wrong decision leads to this, you need to choose the most worthy coins and do not get frightened of any small price fluctuations, realizing that in a week again everything will return.


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Post by: Flor1982 on May 14, 2018, 06:20:12 AM
why every trading I always lose. his coin's endurance for weeks went down, when I sold it, the price went up.

It will depend upon the quality of coins you choose for trading that maybe you currently chose coins that not promising for an investment or crap coins. Choose the top high quality coins which have lot of potentials like BTC, ETH and Ripple in which with a little patience and constant monitoring the news for market update then for sure you will avoid huge loses. 


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Post by: disconnectme on May 14, 2018, 07:50:33 AM
You will always lose money if you keep buying into the news, you need to be ahead of the market, if you think someone will tell you to buy something and make the same kind of profit with that person you are deceiving yourself, spend time to research this projects, their coming launch especially mainnet release, just have a bucket of projects you are following, you will be fine


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Post by: Aleksablack on May 30, 2018, 06:40:20 PM
You have been offered the right thing-fundamental analysis. Listen and start to analyze in more detail the structure and factors affecting the market.


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Post by: waaat? on May 30, 2018, 07:13:57 PM
Some luck will not be superfluous always. Fundamental knowledge is main but to find and to be in the right place and time are important also. Some investors and funds get profit by massive investment. It's another one method


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Post by: lmodric on June 01, 2018, 02:36:00 PM
I think you are losing in an accurate speculation strategy.
you should look for a new method of looking at the price prospect.


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Post by: Bessta on June 01, 2018, 03:05:47 PM
You are losing money because you are not doing it right. You shouldn't go into this kind of situation if you only know what you are doing. Number 1 thing is only to look for great coins and don't mind the bad coins. Number 2 always buy every time the market is low and keep on holding unless you really need money and always sell on green days.


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Post by: Bardman on June 01, 2018, 03:08:43 PM
why every trading I always lose. his coin's endurance for weeks went down, when I sold it, the price went up.

The reason why you always lose is because you broke the basic principle in trading and that is to buy low and sell high. Eventually what you did was to  buy high and sell low. That is the reason why you are losing in trading. So just be patient and keep in mind that bitcoins value is volatile and it goes up and down.

That's the most retarded thing to say, I'm sick of noobs saying this shit, thanks sherlock, buy low and sell high HUH? You think he lost because he bought high on purpose? You have no idea what you are talking about. Go learn some Technical analysis before making such stupid comments.


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Post by: LSt56 on June 01, 2018, 03:10:30 PM
why every trading I always lose. his coin's endurance for weeks went down, when I sold it, the price went up.
I see you experience things that happen to me too often. at the first moment I trade it always happens, but now I have understood that patience is the key.


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Post by: rayk on June 01, 2018, 03:30:40 PM
The price may go up or down after you sell, it is very normal if it goes up after you sell because it is very less likely for most people to sell at ath, if you get the profit you want, you should not care for that.


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Post by: South Park on June 01, 2018, 04:37:55 PM
why every trading I always lose. his coin's endurance for weeks went down, when I sold it, the price went up.
Then that only means that you are terrible at trading and that you need to stop for sometime before tying to be successful at trading again, also you must understand that not everyone can become good at trading, it seems easy in theory to earn money in trading since you only need to buy low and sell high but the reality is a lot more complicated than that so if you do not have the skill to trade stop it and become a long term holder instead.


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Post by: criptoman83 on June 01, 2018, 04:50:44 PM
For some reason , many believe that trading cryptocurrency is a simple task. Yes, if the trend is bullish, then everything is growing, and the chances of earning are very high. But you can also play and lose everything. If you are a beginner, you shouldn't expect to be able to guess the entry point  and trade as a profy, it is better to make a quality investments portfolio, buy assets at the lowest possible price and just wait for positive news and growth.


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Post by: Bardman on June 01, 2018, 07:12:31 PM
For some reason , many believe that trading cryptocurrency is a simple task. Yes, if the trend is bullish, then everything is growing, and the chances of earning are very high. But you can also play and lose everything. If you are a beginner, you shouldn't expect to be able to guess the entry point  and trade as a profy, it is better to make a quality investments portfolio, buy assets at the lowest possible price and just wait for positive news and growth.


Yes, it seems that the last bull run has made a lot of people delusional. Most of them probably though they were genius at trading but thats only because you could literally buy any coin, hold for a few weeks and profit. Huge profits of like 10x. Of course now people have no idea and panic because they don't udnerstand what is happening.


Title: Re: market analysis or fortune capital ... !! ??
Post by: Doell on June 01, 2018, 07:19:31 PM
Why do not you just hold the coin you buy and dont sell when panic see the price down ,because you become like that you are afraid to experience it better you become a long term investor compared to the daily trader is more difficult if not have a good analysis


Title: Re: market analysis or fortune capital ... !! ??
Post by: saganpav on June 01, 2018, 08:10:32 PM
why every trading I always lose. his coin's endurance for weeks went down, when I sold it, the price went up.
Judging by your rank here on the forum, you do not have enough experience to make a profit from trading on a stable basis. Perhaps you are doing a poor analysis of the coin before the purchase. I think you need to be a bit more attentive and you will succeed.


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Post by: Dreamchaser21 on June 01, 2018, 10:06:52 PM
Why do not you just hold the coin you buy and dont sell when panic see the price down ,because you become like that you are afraid to experience it better you become a long term investor compared to the daily trader is more difficult if not have a good analysis

Experience is very important in day trading so if you don’t have any of it better to play long term since this market will continue to pump and dump so basically experienced traders can take this as an advantage. Its unfortunate to sold your coin at a loss because the price of your coin will bounce back for sure.


Title: Re: market analysis or fortune capital ... !! ??
Post by: South Park on June 02, 2018, 10:08:09 PM
For some reason , many believe that trading cryptocurrency is a simple task. Yes, if the trend is bullish, then everything is growing, and the chances of earning are very high. But you can also play and lose everything. If you are a beginner, you shouldn't expect to be able to guess the entry point  and trade as a profy, it is better to make a quality investments portfolio, buy assets at the lowest possible price and just wait for positive news and growth.

This is an illusion that cryptocurrencies can give, just look at what happened in the previous year, the growth of the market was amazing and you needed to be a fool to lose money in the previous year but this gave the illusion that earning in the market was very easy and the only thing you needed to do was to invest in any coin and that you could make a fortune that way but now those people are paying the price of thinking they were good traders when that is not the case.


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Post by: Grechkatx on June 13, 2018, 08:47:44 PM
Do not jump to conclusions and try to quickly part with your coins, just because they are going to decline, maybe soon everything will change for the better.


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Post by: lavropolat on June 13, 2018, 09:07:30 PM
it can be won if it is a bit smart, just need to be patient


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Post by: LSt56 on June 14, 2018, 12:09:38 AM
exactly what I often experience, from that I try to learn to be patient and more patient but the result remains the same, I always misplaced.
I think research alone will not be enough but we should also have luck.


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Post by: tweetbit on June 14, 2018, 12:28:07 AM
There’s a difference between losing and what you do is called “panic selling”. News or fuds does have a higher effect in your decision that’s why you always end up selling in low price and after few hours or days the market started to recover. In that case we can see that you have a little problem with patience and trust to any coin in your position. So you must improve those and be positive all the time.


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Post by: heartbeatpro on June 14, 2018, 01:22:34 AM
There are alternative, and safe, methods for ascertaining the profit plausibility of any given trade. There'll be a thread in the 'Announcements' channel in the coming days/weeks elaborating on it more, but for now I'll just put this here: https://www.tradingview.com/u/Davucci5000/#published-scripts.

And here's on set of results for ADA/BTC on Binance between 1st February - 13th June (except for the 5min and 15 min timeframes; that's the 7th May - 13th June and the 1st March - 13th June respectively)

(Am I allowed to post pictures here? If not I'll be creating a Google Document soon to show off some of the results)
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Period: 5m
Buy/Sell Level: 2.62
Lookback Buy/Sell: 57
Lookback Period: 60

Net Profit (All): 31.24%
Net Profit (Long): 10.21%
Max Drawdown: -0.25%
Buy and Hold: 0.00003593 BTC -> 0.00002453 BTC
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Period: 15m
Buy/Sell Level: 2.16
Lookback Buy/Sell: 53
Lookback Period: 97

Net Profit (All): 175.52%
Net Profit (Long): 104.89%
Max Drawdown: -4.82%
Buy and Hold: 0.00002945 BTC -> 0.00002453 BTC
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Period: 30m
Buy/Sell Level: 2.04
Lookback Buy/Sell: 97
Lookback Period: 139

Net Profit (All): 233.5%
Net Profit (Long): 110.47%
Max Drawdown: -11%
Buy and Hold: 0.00004801 BTC -> 0.00002453 BTC
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Period: 1hr
Buy/Sell Level: 0.49
Lookback Buy/Sell: 61
Lookback Period: 126

Net Profit (All): 171%
Net Profit (Long): 73%
Max Drawdown: -12.03%
Buy and Hold: 0.00004801 BTC -> 0.00002453 BTC
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Period: 2hr
Buy/Sell Level: 1.83
Lookback Buy/Sell: 64
Lookback Period: 125

Net Profit (All): 72.07%
Net Profit (Long): 43.3%
Max Drawdown: -8%
Buy and Hold: 0.00004801 BTC -> 0.00002453 BTC
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Period: 4hr
Buy/Sell Level: 1.1
Lookback Buy/Sell: 52
Lookback Period: 67

Net Profit (All): 140.74%
Net Profit (Long): 84.67%
Max Drawdown: -0.25%
Buy and Hold: 0.00004801 BTC -> 0.00002453 BTC
—————


Title: Re: market analysis or fortune capital ... !! ??
Post by: pinoyden on June 14, 2018, 03:42:23 AM
There’s a difference between losing and what you do is called “panic selling”. News or fuds does have a higher effect in your decision that’s why you always end up selling in low price and after few hours or days the market started to recover. In that case we can see that you have a little problem with patience and trust to any coin in your position. So you must improve those and be positive all the time.

Lossing and panic selling are i think both the same because you will still loose if ever you did panic sell.

News and fuds do also not have an effect to your decision because if you are really faithful to your investment , then you can just stay calm whatever the status of the market or the economy.

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Re: market analysis or fortune capital ... !! ??

We need market analysis in order to be more knowledgeable with  our investments , we also need fortune in order to win or get a profit from our invested capital . So overall both of them are still needed as a key factor in a crypto business.


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Post by: BryanK on June 14, 2018, 05:16:54 AM
You are not the only one who has been suffering losses for the last 6 months. My portfolio has become 4 times less than in February. It's unthinkable.


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Post by: Footmanred on June 14, 2018, 06:22:40 AM
why every trading I always lose. his coin's endurance for weeks went down, when I sold it, the price went up.
This is called impatience and haste. You get in the moments of correction and do not get anything from your actions, learn to hold some investment for a longer time with the onset of a bull trend in order to gain confidence in oneself.