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Title: The emoticons of Bitcoins - Satoshi Codes!
Post by: Mageant on August 18, 2011, 02:16:08 PM
One thing to make Bitcoin more sociable would be to add a message to a Bitcoin transfer. Since this is not part of the protocol, one could have a standard to interpret the last digits sent in a Bitcoin amount, the Satoshis. The digits are currently hardly ever being used and it costs nothing for the computer to use these. People want to express emotions in the messages on computers, that's where the use of emoticons came from (namely as just simply an interpretation of certain rarely used key combinations).

Therefore I present hereby, Satoshi Codes, the "emoticons" of Bitcoin. You simply add these Satoshis to an amount you are transferring with the following meanings (since Satoshis are currently worth very little it also costs almost nothing):

Satoshi Codes (last 2 digits of Bitcoin amount sent):

00 - (no message)
01 - thank you
02 - to our valued customer/recipient
03 - Please check your mail.
04 - enjoy!/have a nice day
05 - I'm sorry!/Sorry for the delay
06 - Happy Birthday!
07 - For a good friend/friends forever!
08 - hugs & kisses
09 - with Love

 ;D ;D ;D

What do you think of this?


Title: Re: The emoticons of Bitcoins - Satoshi Codes!
Post by: DownloadCoin.com on August 18, 2011, 02:18:57 PM
I think it's a bad idea, but you're welcome to make your own fork incorporating this and prove me wrong.


Title: Re: The emoticons of Bitcoins - Satoshi Codes!
Post by: ttk2 on August 18, 2011, 02:24:10 PM
I think it's a bad idea, but you're welcome to make your own fork incorporating this and prove me wrong.


woosh


Title: Re: The emoticons of Bitcoins - Satoshi Codes!
Post by: nmat on August 18, 2011, 02:25:35 PM
You have my vote for the "best cute+funny bitcoin idea of the month".


Title: Re: The emoticons of Bitcoins - Satoshi Codes!
Post by: Raoul Duke on August 18, 2011, 02:28:47 PM
I think it's a bad idea, but you're welcome to make your own fork incorporating this and prove me wrong.

Incorporating what?

He's just giving the idea for people to interpret the last 2 digits as those meanings, no need for a new fork at all.


Title: Re: The emoticons of Bitcoins - Satoshi Codes!
Post by: Mistafreeze on August 18, 2011, 03:11:11 PM
I think it's a bad idea, but you're welcome to make your own fork incorporating this and prove me wrong.

. > you


Title: Re: The emoticons of Bitcoins - Satoshi Codes!
Post by: julz on August 18, 2011, 03:16:17 PM
Far too cute.

69 - Come around for it.
96 - I'm coming around for it.
77 - Send enough blow to get really bent
87 - Send hookers and blow
88 - Send hookers
11 - Send gigolos
17 - Send gigolos and blow
99 - I'm running out of satoshis...  Send me my damn money now.
42 - Send EVERYTHING!


Title: Re: The emoticons of Bitcoins - Satoshi Codes!
Post by: Mageant on August 18, 2011, 03:18:06 PM
I think it's a bad idea, but you're welcome to make your own fork incorporating this and prove me wrong.

Incorporating what?

He's just giving the idea for people to interpret the last 2 digits as those meanings, no need for a new fork at all.

Well, to be fair, it would more useful/nicer if there was a fork of the client that automatically handled these codes.


Title: Re: The emoticons of Bitcoins - Satoshi Codes!
Post by: Ten98 on August 18, 2011, 03:22:07 PM
34 - There *is* porn of it after all!
50 - Police on the way, hide the drugs
86 - Dump your coins
68 - Buy coins


Title: Re: The emoticons of Bitcoins - Satoshi Codes!
Post by: xali on August 18, 2011, 03:42:51 PM
I like this thread. In all seriousness, with 8 digits to work with you could sent like notepad files or something. How man KB is this?


Title: Re: The emoticons of Bitcoins - Satoshi Codes!
Post by: Kyt Dotson on August 18, 2011, 05:49:59 PM
I do enjoy how currently "with love" -- the most passionate and least likely transaction signature -- also costs the most. Emotional value-ordering? 99 should represent an undying devotion and lifelong promise of fealty of a cyberpunk romance novel between star-spanning galactic empires bent on sharing domination of the universe...

Okay, maybe not. :)


Title: Re: The emoticons of Bitcoins - Satoshi Codes!
Post by: Mageant on August 18, 2011, 05:59:57 PM
I do enjoy how currently "with love" -- the most passionate and least likely transaction signature -- also costs the most. Emotional value-ordering?

You got it.  :)
I tried to make the most expensive ones with the highest emotional value/rarity.


Title: Re: The emoticons of Bitcoins - Satoshi Codes!
Post by: Mr.Bitcoin on August 18, 2011, 06:13:49 PM
Far too cute.

69 - Come around for it.
96 - I'm coming around for it.
77 - Send enough blow to get really bent
87 - Send hookers and blow
88 - Send hookers
11 - Send gigolos
17 - Send gigolos and blow
99 - I'm running out of satoshis...  Send me my damn money now.
42 - Send EVERYTHING!


This is a level of ridiculousness I can get into! Thanks for amping up the crazy. My eyes were starting to read Bitcoin as every other word in all these posts until now.


Title: Re: The emoticons of Bitcoins - Satoshi Codes!
Post by: Dansker on August 18, 2011, 06:59:59 PM
91 The bird has left the bakery


Title: Re: The emoticons of Bitcoins - Satoshi Codes!
Post by: jackjack on August 18, 2011, 07:04:55 PM
666. I'm going to release a new Bitcoin fork


Title: Re: The emoticons of Bitcoins - Satoshi Codes!
Post by: Ten98 on August 18, 2011, 07:06:40 PM
666. I'm going to release a new Bitcoin fork

+1 internet to you. Actually made me laugh out loud.


Title: Re: The emoticons of Bitcoins - Satoshi Codes!
Post by: coblee on August 18, 2011, 08:17:32 PM
You know what, it's actually not a bad idea to have the official client support adding "satoshi codes" to your transaction. They can be useful for identification purposes.

For example, let's say you are at Meze Grill and send payment to their bitcoin address. They can just tell you to add your order number as a satoshi code to the payment. This way they can easily match the payment to the order and it would cost the customer next to nothing. I can see this being very useful for certain transactions.


Title: Re: The emoticons of Bitcoins - Satoshi Codes!
Post by: coblee on August 18, 2011, 08:51:44 PM
I added a request in the development forum: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=37955.0


Title: Re: The emoticons of Bitcoins - Satoshi Codes!
Post by: Mageant on August 18, 2011, 08:56:07 PM
I added a request in the development forum: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=37955.0

Cool. Thanks!
8)


Title: Re: The emoticons of Bitcoins - Satoshi Codes!
Post by: ribuck on August 18, 2011, 09:10:19 PM
42 - Send EVERYTHING!
I thought 42 meant "I am Satoshi!".


Title: Re: The emoticons of Bitcoins - Satoshi Codes!
Post by: Dansker on August 19, 2011, 08:29:15 PM
Would it be possible to implement this as a plug-in/add-in thingiebob?

Could be good :D


Title: Re: The emoticons of Bitcoins - Satoshi Codes!
Post by: davux on August 19, 2011, 10:18:10 PM
OK, just for the sake of getting the joke a little further, and to see if the idea can indeed be useful, I created a first wiki page for Satoshi codes (https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Satoshi_codes) (or whatever we end up calling them).

The page contains a table with the OP's proposed codes. I didn't know how serious the other ones were, so I'll let their respective authors add them, or not.


Title: Re: The emoticons of Bitcoins - Satoshi Codes!
Post by: johnrigler on December 09, 2018, 04:04:28 AM
I have devised a whole slew of similar systems which can be used to communicate much more information.  I have basically been sending very small transactions to myself.  By making the entire transaction about the message, it can act as a signal sent out to the entire currency.  Since these signal could be augmented by messages embedded in Op. Codes, they could be described in a meaningful way.  Because Bitcoin itself is so much more expensive than other currencies, I have been using zcash, but the concept is the same (so far I have spent less than $5)  

I just recently found reference to this post on the blockchain wiki, but assumed that my ideas weren't particularly novel.  Here are some of my signals.  As for the original 'Satoshi Codes', I like the idea, btw!

-------------- 1 --------------------

0.00001132 <----- always send at 11:32PM GMT this is a reference to Finnegans Wake This one is interesting because the chance of coincidently writing the hour and minute into a
   given block is quite low, especially if the same address repeats this action.  Writing the anticipated block height to the block would be similar.


-------------- 2 --------------------

0.00000888 <---- tic-tac-toe, the entire board is represented, 8 stands for an empty row

---
-X-      <-------- 0.00000828 (middle row, second bit)
---

--O
-X-     <------- 0.00000428 (top row, third bit)
---

-XO
-X-     <------- 0.00000628 (top row, second and third it)
---


And so the whole game is represented this way, anyone seeing this externally might be able to guess that it is a tic-tac-toe game.  Like the first example, this is self-describing.

---------------- 3 ----------------------------

klocktal (octal kludge) represent the entire alphabet in two digit codes:


    1234 5678
    ------ -----
1  abcd  efgh
2  ijkl    mnop
3 qrst    uvwx
4 yz


.00372737   <--- "wow"
.00122712   <--- "bob"
.00372737   <--- "wow"
--------------- 4 ---------------------------------

Use weak hashes to represent complex objects, which could be stored off-chain or tied to an address with opt-codes:

declare -f bitcoin.height
bitcoin.height ()
{
    BC=$(curl https://blockchain.info/q/getblockcount 2>/dev/null);
    echo "And the winner is: $BC"
}
declare -f bitcoin.height | sum
43025 1



Although 0.00043025 could mean many things, it is only necessary that two parties agree on the meaning.

-------------- 5 -------------------------------------

Mirroring actions on various currencies at the same time can act as a way to join accounts together logically.

-------------------------------------------------------
Why would someone use these systems rather than Operational Codes? This works with any currency, and the signals can be sent by
anyone with access to a smart phone, online wallet, coinbase account, etc. More money is spent on miner fees than messages, but the system
can be used to establish the connection between addresses.  I believe that connecting addresses to each other in a meaningful way is how
larger systems can be built.  

john@rigler.org



One thing to make Bitcoin more sociable would be to add a message to a Bitcoin transfer. Since this is not part of the protocol, one could have a standard to interpret the last digits sent in a Bitcoin amount, the Satoshis. The digits are currently hardly ever being used and it costs nothing for the computer to use these. People want to express emotions in the messages on computers, that's where the use of emoticons came from (namely as just simply an interpretation of certain rarely used key combinations).

Therefore I present hereby, Satoshi Codes, the "emoticons" of Bitcoin. You simply add these Satoshis to an amount you are transferring with the following meanings (since Satoshis are currently worth very little it also costs almost nothing):

Satoshi Codes (last 2 digits of Bitcoin amount sent):

00 - (no message)
01 - thank you
02 - to our valued customer/recipient
03 - Please check your mail.
04 - enjoy!/have a nice day
05 - I'm sorry!/Sorry for the delay
06 - Happy Birthday!
07 - For a good friend/friends forever!
08 - hugs & kisses
09 - with Love

 ;D ;D ;D

What do you think of this?



Title: Re: The emoticons of Bitcoins - Satoshi Codes!
Post by: SUDARMONO on December 09, 2018, 08:19:30 AM
I think the way you use is pretty good, and it's true that bitcoin is currently not very valuable but I think with prices like that bitcoin is still quite high and that it is still very profitable.


Title: Re: The emoticons of Bitcoins - Satoshi Codes!
Post by: johnrigler on December 11, 2018, 06:32:48 PM
I think the way you use is pretty good, and it's true that bitcoin is currently not very valuable but I think with prices like that bitcoin is still quite high and that it is still very profitable.

Thanks.  We are entering a phase where the fact that bitcoin and some obvious alt. coins can be relied on simply to continue to exist regardless of the price of the coin.  So efforts such as private blockchains can always tie into public blockchains as a sort of index, no matter how rudimentary.  I have written about this on Research Gate am publishing through IBM:

https://www.researchgate.net/project/Kloctal-An-Octal-System-for-Simple-Cryptocurrency-Messages