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Title: [POLL] Should CoinMarketCap.com re-list Ripple?
Post by: Gliss on December 22, 2013, 05:02:04 PM
When Ripple was first listed on CMC, I received a large amount of requests to remove it from the default listings.  Times have changed and was wondering if the community still feels the same way.  Personally, I feel that more information is better so I would be for listing it again, but I want to see what the community thinks. 

If you vote 'No', please give a reason in the thread.


Title: Re: [POLL] Should CoinMarketCap.com re-list Ripple?
Post by: HostFat on December 22, 2013, 08:34:06 PM
Yup, I also hope to see it re-listed again :)


Title: Re: [POLL] Should CoinMarketCap.com re-list Ripple?
Post by: Dusty on December 22, 2013, 08:38:17 PM
Ripple is not a zero-trust coin (you need a federation of trusted server to run it).

I think the comparison would be unfair, so I vote no.


Title: Re: [POLL] Should CoinMarketCap.com re-list Ripple?
Post by: hvezdasmrti on December 22, 2013, 08:55:36 PM
YES and if someone wants it to trade, just make it  tradable only for sells to dump it... Chinese way.


Title: Re: [POLL] Should CoinMarketCap.com re-list Ripple?
Post by: Sukrim on December 22, 2013, 09:28:41 PM
Ripple is not a zero-trust coin (you need a federation of trusted server to run it).

I think the comparison would be unfair, so I vote no.
First of all, Ripple != XRP ("ripples")

Anyways, you can run the open source server yourself and all you need (as with any other listed coin on that site) is just to use the globally accepted main chain of blocks (or in Ripple's case: ledgers).
I don't see where ANY kind of trust is needed to send or receive XRP, maybe you can point me to the code portions in question?

I would re-list XRP under the name "ripples", NOT "Ripple".

Also I am not sure how to deal with the "total supply" part - after all theoretically all XRP could be transacted at any time (while only ~12 million BTC out of 21 million can be used atm.), on the other hand a huge part of these will first be handed out before being used for trade. I guess any solution would be fine, just please make sure that "Ripple" != "XRP (ripples)". :)


Title: Re: [POLL] Should CoinMarketCap.com re-list Ripple?
Post by: carajillu on December 22, 2013, 09:30:36 PM
Ripple is not a coin itself, is the fee that you pay for doing a transaction in their network


Title: Re: [POLL] Should CoinMarketCap.com re-list Ripple?
Post by: Sukrim on December 22, 2013, 09:58:13 PM
Ripple is not a coin itself, is the fee that you pay for doing a transaction in their network
Ripple is a decentralized exchange.

The native asset there is called "ripple(s)" or XRP.

This asset has features that are very similar to any other asset on other block chains, e.g. BTC, LTC... and some unique ones, like being destroyed when transactions take place on Ripple (the exchange). They can be transacted and traded (and are intended to be!), so I would see them on one level functionally with any other "coin" listed on that page.


Title: Re: [POLL] Should CoinMarketCap.com re-list Ripple?
Post by: NWO on December 23, 2013, 12:04:36 AM
I voted yes. I think newcomers shouldn't be subjected to bias of the few who fail to educate themselves on WHAT Ripple actually does. Let them make their own decision and show the full scope of alternative currencies on your website. Anyone who doesn't invest in a protocol which has million dollar backing from Google, Andreessen Horowitz (plus many others), a growing team of 35+ employees while providing a true revolutionary system for financial transaction is only hindering themselves. If it is really that hard for you to spot a good investment, maybe investing isn't for you or continue having fun with junkcoin et al on cryptsy.

This comes from a once vocal Ripple hater. I did my research and I fell in love.


Title: Re: [POLL] Should CoinMarketCap.com re-list Ripple?
Post by: evoked22 on December 23, 2013, 01:46:01 AM
No


Title: Re: [POLL] Should CoinMarketCap.com re-list Ripple?
Post by: Slingshot on December 23, 2013, 05:41:55 AM
Yes


Title: Re: [POLL] Should CoinMarketCap.com re-list Ripple?
Post by: Blazed on December 23, 2013, 07:55:36 PM
No way..


Title: Re: [POLL] Should CoinMarketCap.com re-list Ripple?
Post by: instacalm on December 23, 2013, 07:56:51 PM
no...


Title: Re: [POLL] Should CoinMarketCap.com re-list Ripple?
Post by: alexkravets on December 24, 2013, 12:58:27 AM
I hope Ripple can be "pardoned" before xmas ... so far "no" and "no way" are not really good reasons.


Title: Re: [POLL] Should CoinMarketCap.com re-list Ripple?
Post by: Pantagruel on December 24, 2013, 01:00:34 AM
I see it as an exchange system, not as a coin. So my answer would be no.


Title: Re: [POLL] Should CoinMarketCap.com re-list Ripple?
Post by: Digicoiner on December 24, 2013, 01:52:56 AM
The XRP rate is only relevant within the Ripple network so I'm unsure.  The currency not meant to directly buy goods and services.


Title: Re: [POLL] Should CoinMarketCap.com re-list Ripple?
Post by: x0rcist on December 24, 2013, 01:54:13 AM
Whats the problem? Its still listed....

http://coinmarketcap.com/ripple.html


Title: Re: [POLL] Should CoinMarketCap.com re-list Ripple?
Post by: Korporal on December 24, 2013, 02:11:27 AM
Needs to pass the Crypto Sniff Test:

1) Is it a coin that can be spent freely?
2) Is it decentralised and anonymous?
3) Is the code open source?

If YES to all three, then it is a bonafide crypto currency that can be traded freely. If NO to any, then its not a crypto currency.
KISS principle.


Title: Re: [POLL] Should CoinMarketCap.com re-list Ripple?
Post by: NWO on December 24, 2013, 03:11:40 AM
I see it as an exchange system, not as a coin. So my answer would be no.

Change your vote now due to your obvious lack of intelligence. Do you think every alt currency that uses the name 'coin' in their name is associated with the dying monetary system because they can't come up with anything new or innovative, so they use the bit'coin' standard in their labeling?

Just because Ripple's exchange is built-in and it doesn't follow the usual Bitcoin clone path, you deem it inappropriate. You wouldn't know what to do if innovation slapped you in the face.

Fool.



Title: Re: [POLL] Should CoinMarketCap.com re-list Ripple?
Post by: jonanon on December 24, 2013, 03:25:00 AM
Yeah, get I listed, the more alts on there the better as far as I'm concerned!

 :D


Title: Re: [POLL] Should CoinMarketCap.com re-list Ripple?
Post by: freequant on December 24, 2013, 04:11:00 AM
XRP is already the defacto #3 crypto-currency behind BTC and LTC, and a runner up with extremely strong fundamentals.
It's a question of credibility for CoinMarketCap.com to list it.
Taking a side in vain church fights doesn't do any good to your business.
If you need an example of a business who is doing awesomely well in spite of showing full support to Ripple from day one, look at Bitstamp.


Title: Re: [POLL] Should CoinMarketCap.com re-list Ripple?
Post by: alexkravets on December 24, 2013, 06:08:59 AM
Needs to pass the Crypto Sniff Test:

1) Is it a coin that can be spent freely?
2) Is it decentralised and anonymous?
3) Is the code open source?

If YES to all three, then it is a bonafide crypto currency that can be traded freely. If NO to any, then its not a crypto currency.
KISS principle.

Bitcoin itself fails 2) it's neither decentralized (2 - 3 major pools control 51%+ of all hash power) nor actually anonymous by default.


Title: Re: [POLL] Should CoinMarketCap.com re-list Ripple?
Post by: nwtrades on December 24, 2013, 07:53:16 AM
Yes, it should be added.  Ripple and XRP will bring a lot of benefit to the Bitcoin community.  It is an easy point of entry into the cryptocurrency ecosystem via gateways like Snapswap, Peercover, etc.


Title: Re: [POLL] Should CoinMarketCap.com re-list Ripple?
Post by: Sukrim on December 24, 2013, 07:56:17 AM
1) Is it a coin that can be spent freely?
2) Is it decentralised and anonymous?
3) Is the code open source?

1. mostly yes, besides reserve requirements which are at the time of writing 20 xrp for every account and 5 xrp for every transaction that has to be stored on the current ledger (the latter is variable, once e.g. an offer is filled there needs to be no more reserve for that one) xrp can be spent freely between users with no central control from 3rd parties.

2. Initial money distribution of xrp is not decentralized, money transfer however is and like any coin that is listed there so far ripple too is not anonymous, only pseudonymous.

3. 'The code' is a bit vague, but still: anything you need to run a client or a full node is available as free and open source software.


Title: Re: [POLL] Should CoinMarketCap.com re-list Ripple?
Post by: Pantagruel on December 24, 2013, 10:32:48 AM
I see it as an exchange system, not as a coin. So my answer would be no.

Change your vote now due to your obvious lack of intelligence. Do you think every alt currency that uses the name 'coin' in their name is associated with the dying monetary system because they can't come up with anything new or innovative, so they use the bit'coin' standard in their labeling?

Just because Ripple's exchange is built-in and it doesn't follow the usual Bitcoin clone path, you deem it inappropriate. You wouldn't know what to do if innovation slapped you in the face.

Fool.



People are a little tense, here.  ::)

I don't see anything that Bitcoin could not do, in Ripple or any other alt by the way.
You can have colored coins and decentralized exchanges over the Bitcoin protocol.

Besides, could you explain to a fool how a centralized coin is supposed to be something new ?


Title: Re: [POLL] Should CoinMarketCap.com re-list Ripple?
Post by: bibbit on December 24, 2013, 12:01:19 PM
Besides, could you explain to a fool how a centralized coin is supposed to be something new ?

Ripple is not centralized. You can see this for yourself in the source code. Start with the PeerFinder code's Readme (https://github.com/ripple/rippled/blob/develop/src/ripple/peerfinder/README.md) and go from there.

If you aren't a programmer, just peruse the PeerFinder Readme (https://github.com/ripple/rippled/blob/develop/src/ripple/peerfinder/README.md) and skip the source. Just that little bit of exposure to Ripple's P2P plumbing should convince an open minded person that the system is not centralized.


Title: Re: [POLL] Should CoinMarketCap.com re-list Ripple?
Post by: dahongfei on December 24, 2013, 05:47:23 PM
I would like to see Ripple to be listed as:

Ripple XRP


Title: Re: [POLL] Should CoinMarketCap.com re-list Ripple?
Post by: HostFat on December 24, 2013, 08:46:40 PM
I would like to see Ripple to be listed as:

Ripple XRP
Yes, it's a better idea :)


Title: Re: [POLL] Should CoinMarketCap.com re-list Ripple?
Post by: burinata on December 24, 2013, 09:12:57 PM

Ripple should be listed. it's decentralized and open source. XRP can be spent freely without central authority.


Title: Re: [POLL] Should CoinMarketCap.com re-list Ripple?
Post by: BazkieBumpercar on December 24, 2013, 09:17:52 PM
Change your vote now due to your obvious lack of intelligence. Do you think every alt currency that uses the name 'coin' in their name is associated with the dying monetary system because they can't come up with anything new or innovative, so they use the bit'coin' standard in their labeling?

Just because Ripple's exchange is built-in and it doesn't follow the usual Bitcoin clone path, you deem it inappropriate. You wouldn't know what to do if innovation slapped you in the face.

Fool.

lol innovation

my ass is more innovative than a centralized, corporate owned anything. also, lrn2respect opinions without calling people names.


Title: Re: [POLL] Should CoinMarketCap.com re-list Ripple?
Post by: hypostatization on December 25, 2013, 05:25:07 PM
Yes, especially with NXT and MasterCoin listed.


Title: Re: [POLL] Should CoinMarketCap.com re-list Ripple?
Post by: fitosoft29 on December 26, 2013, 06:59:42 AM
Hi, could you list fireflycoin please? :)


Title: Re: [POLL] Should CoinMarketCap.com re-list Ripple?
Post by: alexkravets on December 26, 2013, 07:02:03 AM
This poll is a big waste of everybody's time.
Can you please ban Ripple's forks too if you're gonna ban Ripple ?

Thanx https://ripple.com/wiki/Forks

Jeezuz ...


Title: Re: [POLL] Should CoinMarketCap.com re-list Ripple?
Post by: Gliss on December 26, 2013, 04:06:44 PM
Ripple has been re-listed and poll is now locked.  Thanks to everyone who gave feedback on both sides.