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Title: running miners in stealth mode? Post by: tonto on August 19, 2011, 07:28:41 PM Hey y'all (directed at miner coders, but anyone can answer) is there a way to either currently or in a future patch run miners in "stealth" mode? like in Windows have an option where, for instance, guiminer might have a mode after configuring it that it's hidden and only shows up in Task Manager (either as it's exe name, or even a configurable process name)?
same question for linux.. maybe able to set up and then run on startup in the background? Note I'm not very good in linux CLI, but given instructions I could follow them if this is already possible (like maybe a cron job or something) Title: Re: running miners in stealth mode? Post by: Bananington on August 19, 2011, 07:33:36 PM Hey y'all (directed at miner coders, but anyone can answer) is there a way to either currently or in a future patch run miners in "stealth" mode? like in Windows have an option where, for instance, guiminer might have a mode after configuring it that it's hidden and only shows up in Task Manager (either as it's exe name, or even a configurable process name)? I'm also interested in this concept.same question for linux.. maybe able to set up and then run on startup in the background? Note I'm not very good in linux CLI, but given instructions I could follow them if this is already possible (like maybe a cron job or something) Title: Re: running miners in stealth mode? Post by: captainteemo on August 19, 2011, 07:42:19 PM Hey y'all (directed at miner coders, but anyone can answer) is there a way to either currently or in a future patch run miners in "stealth" mode? like in Windows have an option where, for instance, guiminer might have a mode after configuring it that it's hidden and only shows up in Task Manager (either as it's exe name, or even a configurable process name)? In linux, just edit the PATH=, name bitcoin something like 'bash' and put it in /home/.../bash, drop ~/... first in the path and type bash. It'll show up in ps as bash.same question for linux.. maybe able to set up and then run on startup in the background? Note I'm not very good in linux CLI, but given instructions I could follow them if this is already possible (like maybe a cron job or something) You can use a cron to restart it. Also, bitcoin mining is probably the least possible stealthiest thing in the world when it comes to resource abuse. Title: Re: running miners in stealth mode? Post by: CanaryInTheMine on August 19, 2011, 09:27:52 PM Hey y'all (directed at miner coders, but anyone can answer) is there a way to either currently or in a future patch run miners in "stealth" mode? like in Windows have an option where, for instance, guiminer might have a mode after configuring it that it's hidden and only shows up in Task Manager (either as it's exe name, or even a configurable process name)? same question for linux.. maybe able to set up and then run on startup in the background? Note I'm not very good in linux CLI, but given instructions I could follow them if this is already possible (like maybe a cron job or something) you trying to hide your tracks when squatting other systems? Title: Re: running miners in stealth mode? Post by: evolve on August 19, 2011, 11:38:05 PM i could be wrong, but this screams of botnet mining or something similar. :-\
Title: Re: running miners in stealth mode? Post by: tonto on August 20, 2011, 03:06:27 PM So people who write proof-of-concept viruses are out to do harm, too? Are people who speed out to cause anarchy? Jesus, if you *must* know, I have *one* machine at work that I was thinking of putting a miner on. This machine can only do about 100Mhash/sec, so I don't know why you're going on this huge crusade.
I'm not looking to write any bots, I haven't coded anything significant since 1993. There, you can all sleep at night now. Christ, a simple "yes or no" would have sufficed. Title: Re: running miners in stealth mode? Post by: geek-trader on August 20, 2011, 10:51:58 PM So people who write proof-of-concept viruses are out to do harm, too? Are people who speed out to cause anarchy? Jesus, if you *must* know, I have *one* machine at work that I was going to put a miner on. Chances are 99.9999998 that no one else but me will use it, and I was just looking to cover my ass. Worse case I get fired, but that affects you all how? This machine can only do about 100Mhash/sec, so I don't know why you're going on this huge crusade. I'm not looking to write any bots, I haven't coded anything significant since 1993. There, you can all sleep at night now. Christ, a simple "yes or no" would have sufficed. So you ARE planning a theft of resources. Therefore, the accusations against you were correct. Title: Re: running miners in stealth mode? Post by: deslok on August 20, 2011, 11:10:41 PM One machine he uses at work is far from a bot net though accusations right? Yes. Scale? way off
Title: Re: running miners in stealth mode? Post by: SMOKEU on August 20, 2011, 11:39:48 PM It's still not theft. Is going to the staff room and drinking the company coffee and milk theft as well? Is using company toilet paper theft? Is going onto the Bitcoin forums during work time also theft?
Title: Re: running miners in stealth mode? Post by: Bananington on August 21, 2011, 12:01:44 AM Is going onto the Bitcoin forums during work time also theft? I have actually heard of workplaces calling workers, who don't do there job, theives.Title: Re: running miners in stealth mode? Post by: tonto on August 21, 2011, 03:30:20 AM I run a space heater during the winter and a fan during the summer. That's "stealing" of resources, too. I also write personal notes on company-purchased sticky-notes, I read Facebook during the day (and the reading of Facebook is not one of my job duties), and I stop to talk to the cute secretary nearly every day, wasting a good ten minutes of both our work-day.
I'm willing to bet 99.9% of anyone reading these forums does any of these things, all considered "stealing" company resources. Title: Re: running miners in stealth mode? Post by: SMOKEU on August 21, 2011, 03:53:18 AM and I stop to talk to the cute secretary nearly every day, wasting a good ten minutes of both our work-day. Is she single? Title: Re: running miners in stealth mode? Post by: geek-trader on August 21, 2011, 05:57:40 AM Running a bitcoin miner on a company computer is theft. It's misuse of company resources and theft of electricity.
And you know this. If it's not theft, if it's not wrong, why were you asking how to hide it? Bitcoin has enough bad press, enough people who think it's a scam, enough people who think it's shady, without you doing shady things with with it. Again, if what you are planning is NOT shady, then why are you asking how to hide it? Why do you admit you might get fired if they found out? What you plan is wrong and you know it. Title: Re: running miners in stealth mode? Post by: tonto on August 21, 2011, 01:48:45 PM Running a bitcoin miner on a company computer is theft. It's misuse of company resources and theft of electricity. And you know this. If it's not theft, if it's not wrong, why were you asking how to hide it? Bitcoin has enough bad press, enough people who think it's a scam, enough people who think it's shady, without you doing shady things with with it. Again, if what you are planning is NOT shady, then why are you asking how to hide it? Why do you admit you might get fired if they found out? What you plan is wrong and you know it. Good Lord, yes, it's wrong. So are all the things I mentioned above. Why did no one give this much shit to the guy who admitted to stealing electricity at the expense of your (our) tax dollars? Since he's military (well I think he is), does that make it right or something? He's doing the exact same thing that I'm doing, except not at his company. My way affects you nil (other than helping to raise the difficulty by about .000001%. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=34723.msg446150#msg446150 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=34723.msg446150#msg446150) Title: Re: running miners in stealth mode? Post by: geek-trader on August 21, 2011, 05:25:31 PM I think you'll see similar responses to the one that you got in most threads about stealing electricity or mining at work. The one you specified is an exception.
for example: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=37021.msg455201#msg455201 Look, you do what you want. You are correct that it does not affect me. Just try not to give Bitcoin a bad name. Title: Re: running miners in stealth mode? Post by: joeyjoe on August 21, 2011, 07:21:34 PM there are some apps that run programs while the computer is idle. I had some problems with the one i used called "While Idle" so i'll make a better version tonight.
Title: Re: running miners in stealth mode? Post by: leeloulee on August 22, 2011, 11:49:51 AM something smells fishy
Title: Re: running miners in stealth mode? Post by: AssemblY on August 22, 2011, 12:15:13 PM Hey y'all (directed at miner coders, but anyone can answer) is there a way to either currently or in a future patch run miners in "stealth" mode? like in Windows have an option where, for instance, guiminer might have a mode after configuring it that it's hidden and only shows up in Task Manager (either as it's exe name, or even a configurable process name)? I'm also interested in this concept.same question for linux.. maybe able to set up and then run on startup in the background? Note I'm not very good in linux CLI, but given instructions I could follow them if this is already possible (like maybe a cron job or something) +1 Could stop criticizing and trying to give an intelligent response. Title: Re: running miners in stealth mode? Post by: joeyjoe on August 22, 2011, 01:15:08 PM Coded a new stealth app for windows, visit link in my signature. Source code is included.
Title: Re: running miners in stealth mode? Post by: AssemblY on August 25, 2011, 06:12:25 PM Coded a new stealth app for windows, visit link in my signature. Source code is included. This was an intelligent response! I liked it, I will test! ;) Title: Re: running miners in stealth mode? Post by: joeyjoe on August 25, 2011, 06:58:51 PM Coded a new stealth app for windows, visit link in my signature. Source code is included. This was an intelligent response! I liked it, I will test! ;) Thank you :) |