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Title: Alan Turing finally has his name cleared. Post by: marcus_of_augustus on December 24, 2013, 03:32:30 PM http://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/world-war-two/10536246/Alan-Turing-granted-Royal-pardon-by-the-Queen.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/world-war-two/10536246/Alan-Turing-granted-Royal-pardon-by-the-Queen.html)
http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/europe/9551594/Long-overdue-pardon-for-gay-war-hero (http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/europe/9551594/Long-overdue-pardon-for-gay-war-hero) Quote Now, nearly half a century after the war hero's suicide, Queen Elizabeth II has finally granted Turing a pardon. "Turing was an exceptional man with a brilliant mind," Justice Secretary Chris Grayling said in a prepared statement released Tuesday. Describing Turing's treatment as unjust, Grayling said the code breaker "deserves to be remembered and recognised for his fantastic contribution to the war effort and his legacy to science." The pardon has been a long time coming. If there was ever an example of why the State should have limited powers, this be it. No doubt there are some today holding sufficient powers that want e.g. Edward Snowden "chemically castrated", or "terminated". Title: Re: Alan Turing finally has his name cleared. Post by: hilariousandco on December 24, 2013, 05:48:26 PM http://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/world-war-two/10536246/Alan-Turing-granted-Royal-pardon-by-the-Queen.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/world-war-two/10536246/Alan-Turing-granted-Royal-pardon-by-the-Queen.html) http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/europe/9551594/Long-overdue-pardon-for-gay-war-hero (http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/europe/9551594/Long-overdue-pardon-for-gay-war-hero) Quote Now, nearly half a century after the war hero's suicide, Queen Elizabeth II has finally granted Turing a pardon. "Turing was an exceptional man with a brilliant mind," Justice Secretary Chris Grayling said in a prepared statement released Tuesday. Describing Turing's treatment as unjust, Grayling said the code breaker "deserves to be remembered and recognised for his fantastic contribution to the war effort and his legacy to science." The pardon has been a long time coming. If there was ever an example of why the State should have limited powers, this be it. No doubt there are some today holding sufficient powers that want e.g. Edward Snowden "chemically castrated", or "terminated". Good news I guess, but I don't see what good it does Turing now. Title: Re: Alan Turing finally has his name cleared. Post by: Carlton Banks on December 24, 2013, 06:44:56 PM Surely Queen Elizabeth II was the queen at the time he was castrated and/or killed himself? She was certainly old enough to know right from wrong, whether or not she was the actual monarch at the time.
Good news I guess, but I don't see what good it does Turing now. I remember the first bitcoin banknote-styled paper wallets, there was a competition on here to design them. The Turing one was my favourite. He's already been honoured by the honourable, and by those who have a better understanding of the significance of his work than the institution that "honoured" him today. I like to think he'd be proud of us (although we can't presume what he'd actually think). Title: Re: Alan Turing finally has his name cleared. Post by: nobbynobbynoob on December 24, 2013, 06:51:00 PM Surely Queen Elizabeth II was the queen at the time he was castrated and/or killed himself? She was certainly old enough to know right from wrong, whether or not she was the actual monarch at the time. She was new to the throne, and as barbaric as it may seem, those were the attitudes and laws of the time (and still are in many countries). Active homosexuality was criminalized, coloured people faced discrimination in many facets of life (sure I'd take 1950s Britain over 1950s Alabama/Mississippi/South Africa any day, but it's all relative), and so on. Her Majesty today actively intervenes to prevent executions from ever taking place in British dependencies, yet she didn't offer the same hand to those sentenced to die within the UK before 1965. That's just the way it rolled. Title: Re: Alan Turing finally has his name cleared. Post by: cbeast on December 24, 2013, 07:32:34 PM I support naming conventions that honor those that sacrificed for humanity's endeavors. I realize that AI research adopted his name, but I am confident that one day Bitcoinia will create something worthy to carry on his name as well.
Title: Re: Alan Turing finally has his name cleared. Post by: Mike Christ on December 24, 2013, 08:00:43 PM Since this action is not useful to Turing, and occurred long after he passed away, we can only logically follow that this action occurred for reasons beside remorse or forgiveness. The stated purpose was to pardon Turing; because this is now impossible, and no action is without consequence, then the unstated purpose is to boost the image of the people who killed him.
Title: Re: Alan Turing finally has his name cleared. Post by: Spendulus on December 25, 2013, 12:47:48 AM Since this action is not useful to Turing, and occurred long after he passed away, we can only logically follow that this action occurred for reasons beside remorse or forgiveness. The stated purpose was to pardon Turing; because this is now impossible, and no action is without consequence, then the unstated purpose is to boost the image of the people who killed him. I could go for a naming of a bitcoin subdenominational as a Turing.Something roughly equal to a British pound. You know, rub it in a bit. Turing's revenge. Title: Re: Alan Turing finally has his name cleared. Post by: bryant.coleman on December 25, 2013, 02:00:05 PM I don't care much about the PR exercises now being made by the British monarchy. They have never apologized for colonizing half the world and exploiting the natives, starting with Scotland and continuing even now with the Chagos.
Title: Re: Alan Turing finally has his name cleared. Post by: CSInvestments on December 29, 2013, 06:04:18 AM Turing does deserve some justice.
Title: Re: Alan Turing finally has his name cleared. Post by: Cryptopher on January 16, 2014, 10:40:08 PM Alan Turing was such a pioneer, not that I need to point this out.
It's ridiculous though because it was a stupid law (looking back), but they will give him a pardon (no good to him now), all these years on purely because of his superb achievements. That law should never have existed, but I suppose that's how the world was then. |