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We wish you nothing but success with your new company  8)

Awesome website. This may be just what is needed to stimulate sales in the bitcoin economy ! ! ! !

(Just a minor nitpick: please, please don't use the baht symbol for BTC. It's really not understandable why people detest using 1$ as 1BTC but not detest 1฿)
Site looks really cool right now. I would really like a feature to freeze the scrolling thing: that way I can actually read the text without hacking the page. Like maybe if your mouse is hovering over the marquee it stops.

I really like the website, ill be checking back to see what you have and hopefully make some purchases...

In Mexico and many Latin American countries they officially use the $ sign for pesos.

I say keep the "baht" sign ;).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dollar_sign

I can attest the site is secure.  ;D

Keep the baht symbol, it's the best thing we have.

Because the symbol for the dollar is known by practically everyone, everywhere, and most people associate it with the US Dollar. The same does not apply for the baht sign.

If I were Thai I would be honored lol. 

Most of the images dont work.

So therefore I'm not "most people"? Whenever I see "$", am I wrong to assume CAD or AUD or any of the bajillions of other countries with a dollar? If anything, the $ sign is closest to a universal sign of currency.

Get out of here if you want to argue about stupid baht signs and dollar signs. If someone goes to CIB they know that the ฿ stands for BITCOINS.  Your provocations are not welcome here.

This thread is about the beta date of Cheaper In Bitcoins which will be set on September 1st. It's not about what sign Xenland should use, and if it were there already is a trillion other posts debating the same exact thing. Bottom line is, it's up to the vendor since this is an open source project, and really doesn't even matter.

Yeah, the communities number one priority is the symbol choice ;)

*Cough* *Cough* (http://cheaperinbitcoins.com/product.php?productId=2513)

Thanks for the comments of improvements lets see if I can tackle all your questions,

The product listings are being word wrapped now so no more covering up the titles.
I have a set locked in price that I set every month, Don't ask me how I will pay for purchases if the price drops $3 below my locked in price anything past the $3 drop I will be losing money. So if my locked in price was $12.5 and it hit $8.5 I will have to wait for prices to go back within the $3 range to ship out products or issue refunds.
I'm trying not to following the exchange rate becuase Bitcoins should be worth what bitcoins are worth and if Bitcoins are always worth the amount of other currencies It will never be taken seriously. So I hope to have a set locked in BTC price to stablize the bitcoin value a little bit. At the end of the day ask your self.... "Should I put up with transaction fees/bank transfer costs or should I save the transactions fees/transfer costs/time wasted and just purchase what I needed in bitcoins directly?"

I realize this idea go against anything that should make money and your correct I won't be making a dime until after I get a lot of products and capital saved up to be able to front purchases to save bitcoins.

At the moment I've started assets on GLBSE now I am waiting on the companies listing page so I can get my asset ID number and start issuing some bonds.

Edit: Oh and the main page banner I've been experimenting with what should go up there so it won't load at times until the September 1st, thanks for bug reports :)

Here is what the contract says:


Basically you get paid back as fast as products are purchased.

I'll keep everyone updated when I start issuing assets.

Can i purchase any of the products you have listed already?

On september 1st you can purchase anything you want. As of right now im on a mission of getting products listed. But now that i think about it none of my testers has mentioned anything with the shopping cart system work or not working. So i will  1-3 people to test the first products purchased please PM me for a 'go a head' and ill let you know if you are accepted to purchase. Bitcoin is dropping quick I hope it will stabalize so i can set my locked bitcoin with confidence.

Update: i ted this on meh phone excuse the gammer/spelling errors. I will edit soon.

I need people to help test out the shipping process. Any takers? just go to CheaperInBitcoins.com add products to shopping cart, send bitcoins to the supplied address, wait for confirmations. PM me your email address and I'll ship out your products!

Thanks! first 5 customer testers get .5BTC payment after product has been shipped!

Just issued 100 assets on GLBSE with the ticker name "CIB-Solutions" (with out quotes)

Contract:https://glbse.com/asset/a9264230662de707183eef179f58ece9fe4751a7eb287bd95119479fb4264b33

GLBSE CIB-Solutions page: http://companies.herokuapp.com/company/22

NICE looking site !

Does this mean the site is ready to roll? I am looking at some products.



-ST

Yes the site is fully operational but not deemed "public" until the spetember 1st. I really need people that i can chat with one on one to get an idea on their over all experience and im willing to pay .5BTC for you time. After you have had items shipped out and arrived at your door, and have reported back with your experience i will send you .5BTC.

Thanks for that information peter lambert, I guess I thought glbse worked a little bit differently. I'm putting in a sell order now.

Assuming those weren't rhetorical questions or questions meant to be written on the sell orders page, I will be listing them for 1BTC and I will repay as quickly as products are sold, what that means  is if you invested 10BTC and only 5BTC in purchases were made over the past month you will receive your 120% of that 5BTC that month. Then when 5BTC in products are purchased the next month you will receive the rest of your 120% at the end of that month.
Any more questions?

Yes I will repay by purchasing back the shares at a higher price.

Just posted 100 sell orders at 1 BTC I doubt I'll need any more then this for the rest of the month.

Ticker ID: CIB-Solutions
https://glbse.com/asset/a9264230662de707183eef179f58ece9fe4751a7eb287bd95119479fb4264b33

Your GLBSE contract is not signed and is very ambiguous in terms.

What would you suggest that would make it any clearer then it already is?

There is not much to know except that when customers purchase from my website, I use the invested BTC to help pay for upfront costs(when exchange prices are low) this way customers don't have to wait a whole month for exchange rates to go back up to my set "Locked in Bitcoin price" receive their product(on top of that shipping wait times). Every product is making an variable income and that money is used to pay back the investors. Thus there is no set payback date because I can't promise that I will pay you in a month or two from now, because I might have to pay you sooner or sometimes(hopefully not) later. If i did have a set payback date, I would have to pay out of my pocket to just to pay back investors which doesn't help me or the company what so ever just hinders it.

I'm contacting GLBSE to get the contract signed thank you for that information. :)

What if I don't want to sell back shares? Do they expire? Will you move to dividends?

There's at least one spelling error on your home page =) 

If you'd like help with copywriting or editing, please PM me.

Well, not having a set payback date for a bond puts me off a bit. It makes the bond riskier and more like a share, but with a capped upside. That said, some people may be prepared to invest. What is unclear is what exactly you mean by the "rate of items purchased". How exactly will the payback rate vary? Will you pay back a percentage of sales or a percentage of profits?

Also, your contract has no contact details apart from your website, and grammatical errors do not give a positive impression to potential investors. Signing your contract with GPG allows you to demonstrate that no details have been modified and that communication by you outside of GLBSE actually comes from you. For example, since your contract is not signed, we cannot tell if you really do represent the CIB-Solutions Ticker or not. You could be an imposter for all we know (not saying you are). If you had signed the contract, you can also post messages here signed with the same key to prove that you do control the signing key.

I am thinking of offering services as a capital raising agent to help entrepreneurs get their contracts prepared clearly and present a clearer business case to investors. I wonder if there is a market for this. There are a handful of contracts on GLBSE with errors in them (from simple grammar to incorrect dates etc.). I don't think the business operators are acting in bad faith (and often honour agreements despite what the contract says), but many entrepreneurs lack a complete understanding about how exactly GLBSE works. There are videos explaining it, but it is still not exactly user friendly. I think this may act as a bit of a barrier to entry. Engaging the services of someone to prepare an investor-friendly contract should allow entrepreneurs to focus on what they do best—growing their businesses.

Also, you may want to fix up the maths on your company info page:


1.12 BTC profit on a 1 BTC investment is 112% profit. If you mean you invest 1 BTC and get 1.12 BTC back, then it is only 12% profit.

I'm obviously not up to par with business lingo. Instead of profits I meant to put "Return"

Edit: I wait I caught what you were saying... Thanx Mate

I would say they don't expire but that would be pretty inconvenient to constantly keep track of static BTC laying around in the safe-wallet, so yeah they don't expire.

So what you are saying is they are a one time payout of 20% Redeemable at some unknown future date?

I'm saying I'm hoping people don't leave their rewards laying around for too long. They don't expire but hope not to keep someones profits laying around for long its just an annoyance doing audits wondering what a lot of BTC is just sitting their for. I plan to pay people back in full monthly. At the moment I'm not entirely sure how many orders I will get monthly because I haven't had an purchases yet, so I can't say a set date. That said I may not even need the invested BTC, they are basically their for when exchange rates go lower then my set Bitcoin price and customers would have to otherwise wait until the exchange rate went back up.

Although its hard for some US-citicens to understand "$" does not mean "money" it is actually means dollar (or pesos). Or to quote
a person on IEEE's conference economy dept. "Money is counted in dollars!". I almost laughed my *ss off into the phone..

I really hate to reference wikipedia (this is why (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Academic_use)) but you can read about it here Dollar sign (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dollar_sign)

This works in the same way as we in Europe use the € sign for euro when we mean euro and not the dollar sign ($).

Keep using the ฿-sign for bitcoins or lets just decide to adapt it as the official bitcoin sign (which i thought it was when i looked at the logo).


/GoK

I think I finally understand what dree12 was talking about thank you for that ghostofkobra

so far 7 assests have been purchased for 1BTC and they are being sold back at the pay out amount it looks like of 1.2BTC.

Instead of 100 assets in circulation I've changed it to 20 I realized I definably don't need that much to cover costs for the upcoming month

SSL certificate is active you should be able to login to the website now.

12 BTC in GLBSE so far.
 Thanks for the support everyone we will defiantly be able to get orders out more quickly then before :)

Just another side note, the phone number wont be working until monday. I'm switching VoIP providers it will take a couple of days until then email us at sales[at]cheaperinbitcoins.com

This months BTC price is set to $8 Have fun everyone!


www.CheaperInBitcoins.com

1 877 toll free number comming soon don't use the one currently listed on the website
Thanks everyone!

Looks fantastic!

Hope it takes off.

Okay toll free number is up. I'm usually available around 10am - 6pm pacific time leave a message with your email address and/or phone number that i could reach you back on if you have any issues with my website as im not always available.

I've decided people are losing money by setting this months locked in price to $8 so I shall set it to $9 :)
Happy mining!

Tried to look at a picture. but got an error


Page clicked on: http://www.cheaperinbitcoins.com/showcategory?cateId=67
Page linked to: http://www.cheaperinbitcoins.com/product.php?productId=2558
Error message: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)

I was literately just finishing some mysql maintenance that was only going to take 1 second to execute.

It should be working I started MySql back up

It works,

Which means you are losing money instead? Or are your margins high enough to cover it?

Thanks for the reports mate!

I'll be posting a "boat" load of products on Monday as It is holiday weekend for me and the fam, so party on dudes!

http://s4.postimage.org/9odzjj73t/bill_and_ted0426_copy.jpg

No at worst if the exchange rate goes $3 below my "Locked in Price" then I'm loosing money at which I have investors to pad the expense at which I can wait out the exchange rate to equalize and pay back my investors. So basically if prices go lower then $6 i have three choices.... issue refunds(which is last resort), wait it out until exchange rates go back up(yeah right, that would be an unstable business), or always pay for every purchase upfront in $$$ then save the Bitcoins until exchange rate equalizes.

only the 3rd choice is transparent and manageable. So to the answer to your question my margins are high enough to cover it, I get this question asked a lot so i figured I'd explain it in detail.

I just noticed that some products are showing up as being made by NETGEAR, I assure everyone that this is a minor bug in the "add products" admin panel.
This will be fixed and you will get your products. if your not satisfied with your order you can return the order with a full refund(at your shipping expense) only valid if all items are unopened and have all parts.

To any investors of CIB-Solutions, I have send out a Motion, please read it and review,

Thank you.

Xenland.

Seems GLBSE is having issues with the "Motion" feature and has seemingly dissapeared I am contacting the owner of GLBSE to find out what the deal is.
Everything else on GLBSE is looking fine so no worries everyones investment is still intact.

On a side note:

I have created Daemon page that will show some quick stats on the bitcoin daemon including how many transactions have gone through(this is not an accurate number it soley relies how many times bitcoins have been sent to the server)

Daemon Page: https://cheaperinbitcoins.com/daemon

I'll keep the date thing in mind, and yes they should have that changed. I already started a thread on the GLBSE forums I will reply back with this suggestion aswell.
Thanks :)

just checking, but is your math right?

243 bitcoins for a 32gb ipod 4th gen? at current market rate, that 243btc * $8.60 = $2,089.8.

numbers appear to be correct on the page, but your top banner is incorrect.

I see 27btc for the ipod elsewhere.

Looks like front page is showing dollar amounts instead of BTC amount. I will release in an hour with a tested fix

Thanks runlinux for your report!


Just for the record(because I'm pride full on validity), the real page and shopping cart systems are indeed working : http://cheaperinbitcoins.com/product.php?productId=2556

What's the status of the motion, i can't see it.

Okay so It may have been that I set the wrong expiration date but this time I am sure that I've set the correct one. Please let me know if you can now view the motion as I have posted it to GLBSE again.

Thanks everyone!

GLBSE Update: stocks are selling at around 1.1 BTC. CheaperInBitcoins now has 25 BTC in reserve.

still can't see it.....

Okay I sent the motion again, I can see it my self now which is a first, someone please confirm this?

Unfortunately since I don't know who my bond holders are I'm just going based off of hear say so I can not speak about GLBSE with anyone through PM's.
I suggest to the owner of GLBSE to have private messaging but I can see and realize GLBSE is trying to stay safe and are reluctant to release updates for security purposes so until they get a messaging system just hold out your private messages until then as I don't feel comfortable discussing through an unsafe channel(forums).

Yes it works. I regret to tell you I voted no on the basis of lack of redundancy aka single point of failure. It would be just as effective to place the data in an encrypted rar with a very long password with a recovery record and storing it on multiple Gmail accounts (again strong password ) using Gspace. What if there is a flood or fire at your house? There goes the HDD and the key in one fell swoop.

I think its pretty close to say based on the conclusion so far of the motion has voted "no".

and although I don't think a flood is coming any time soon but fires and earthquakes are imminent; indio007 you are so right that would be just as good as storing it on multiple gmail accounts. Because its impossible to know weather or not you are a share holder at this moment(and unsafe) I'll shall cast another motion with this question stay tuned.

Want a screenshot?
I wouldn't fuck with you dude. I'm just saying there are more secure ways. Single point of failure (especially hardware) is the greatest threat. it's easy enough to make the data inaccessible to unauthorized parties considering it's a single file. The gmail /gspace was just a suggestion. There are other remote data storage options . Shit renaming it to CSPAN.House.Of.Representitives.Debate.wmv would be enough to keep people from accessing it :P No one wants to watch that.

I guess I was going for a super-legit approach that dosen't meet my needs at this point.
I'm logged into my rack space hosting provider and they have a Rackspace Files hosting, I'm going with this option to hold daily mysql backups and "offline" wallet.

Yes it looks like I'm going with the rackspace files hosting option considering the last tally of the vote/motion (motion id: 30):

My only worry with that (assuming they have data redundancy) is the company holding data hostage in the event the bill isn't paid. Maybe data loss insurance or a guarantee from the provider would prove useful. There are definitely insurance policies available that cover losses of data.

Rackspace is a great company I spoke with them over the phone when first signing up for the webhosting. That said I didn't check about their garuntee for their file hosting, I will call them and see what their policies are on data garuntees. I checked their file hosting costs and it's 15 cents per Giga-byte. So we should be alright on the bill pay. In the event that rackspace loses my files I have the offline wallet in a encrypted file on a hard drive in a safe place at my house along with the same copy on a USB stick in an undisclosed location. Rackspace is just a backup in the event something happens to my whole town such as huge natural disasters such as for instance I live near an inactive volcano, tiny earthquakes happen, and I live near a forest so my hardware could be prone to forest fires aswelll but I have full coverage as far as insurance goes so my hardware is insured but I doubt my data is.

How does the bond thing work now that they are sold out? What if I buy at a higher price?

Definitely sounds good. I give you kudos for being security proactive. It's always good to learn from the mistakes of others. :D

If you pay a higher price for a bond, you get a lower yield to maturity. For example, if you buy the current ask at 1.1 BTC, you would get a yield to maturity of 1.2/1.1-1=9% instead of the original 20% offered in the IPO.

Each bond is sold at 1BTC and each bond will be Purchased back at 120%. so it's recomended to not purchase at higher then 1.11 to make any money. When I pay off all investors you can buy back to make .12 BTC per bond.

Same thing I pointed out here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=38565.msg489935#msg489935) and never got an answer on. The GLBSE assets page still contain the error.

I'm expecting 20%. Which is 1.20 BTC. 1.12 BTC is only 12%.

Yeah that has been brought up before. Unfortunately Xenland seems to consider 120% of 1 BTC to be 1.12, and has been consistent in doing the math that way ;)

Oh yeah you are correct I have no idea why my dyslexia keeps acting up with the 120%. I have business plans written up with correct values for some reason every time I "check my math" I come up with that number, no clue why.

Yes it is for sure 1.20 BTC/per bond

I'll be adding zip-code integration. Basically if your shipping out to anywhere else besides California you will not be charged Tax. This feature should be tested and released within a couple of days, I may or maynot have to invest in a zip code database at the moment I'm using a free one so will see how it plays out before I start spending money.

Thanks for being patient everybody!

I'm rubbing my gold Buddha's belly and wishing you good fortune!

https://docs.google.com/document/pubimage?id=1yyU1e1jyX3b2Ev7dIi8Cmwxp5BcJqRaWl9TLKcqna4U&image_id=1APQSpuxPfsWPD2f19Fn7aho1GhqVvfM

Thanks for inspirational photo ;)

About the contract not being correct I don't see any menus for editing them, heading to the GLBSE forums now.

Some up-comming updates (Before I forget what was updated):
1]Integrated and tested taxless product forms
2]If user doesn't have a valid or has not inputted their zip code they can type it selected product page and it will be displayed the Ajax way
3]Shopping cart images use the php image resizer.
4]Check out page remembers what you typed in(before you had to retype your details every time you sent invalid input)
5]Refund system saved addresses but didn't display them. This has been fixed;

I'll keep everyone posted when these features go live.

For the symbol, if you don't wanna use an image or make your own custom font to use the b'at (my av pic here), i would recomend you use Ƀ (or the lower case version ƀ); from all the proposals involving symbols already present in Unicode this one is one of the best IMO

(for more on the topic of choosing a symbol, check https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Bitcoin_symbol and the related threads)

Just thought I'd like to let everyone know who is being active in the project(and those who are lurking), that I secured numinous domain names to prevent phishing attacks some include....

www.CheaperInCoins.com
www.CheaperWithCoins.com
www.CheaperWithBitcoin.com
www.CheaperInBitcoin.com
www.CheaperInBitcoins.net

But you should only trust purchasing products from www.CheaperInBitcoins.com

Hope everyone feels a lil bit safer :)

1]Integrated and tested taxless product forms
2]If user doesn't have a valid or has not inputted their zip code they can type it selected product page and it will be displayed the Ajax way
3]Shopping cart images use the php image resizer.
4]Check out page remembers what you typed in(before you had to retype your details every time you sent invalid input)
5]Refund system saved addresses but didn't display them. This has been fixed;

Those are now active

Have fun with Tax-less purchases if you live outside of cali..

Everything that was previously set to Not Available is now in stock. (Except for one of the video cards)

All anomalies of NETGEAR showing up as the Brand name for things that net gear doesn't make, has now been set to "Generic"

Apparently i Have over 500 products whom which brands names I must fix becuase they are all wrong... this should be fun!

GLBSE has replied and the contract will be "swapped" with the correct details

Okay all brand names should be fixed please feel free to chat with support and/or PM me for spelling reports

Apologizes to whom ever wanted the 5850, that was supposed to be deleted after the maintenance; all my suppliers are not selling them any more. I've issued you a refund and you may request to have it sent back to you through the refund system or you can purchase something else with your store credit.

Working to get a direct AMD supplier;
I think I can get suppliers to take me seriously now that I have investors(money) to show them and not just wasting their time.

Scheduled maintenance/audit tonight at 12 PM pacific standard time.

Update:
Due to the unexpected amount of customers, I won't be shipping out any products until tomorrow morning.
There is a lot of BTC in hands and since this will be my first shipment I want everything to ship out smooth.
Thanks for your patience everyone!

Some things that are going to be released in the near future:

*Email receipts [Customers will receive full invoice receipts upon confirmation of payment]

*Some minor fixes here and their to make things run a bit more smoothly

*Refund system will have a "Cancel" button

*Daemon page will show recently shipped items

*and a "State" input in the shipping form, because everyone seems to think their zip code doesn't tell them which state they live it :P

Thanks for you patience everyone, money is being transfered waiting on my suppliers to give me shipping numbers. Some orders will have to be sent to my registered business address which will then be sent to the customer. There is only one order that will can and will drop shipped(sent to the customer directly).

Website updates should be up very soon been doing alot of overnight work.

Goodluck Mining, Everyone!

I think I speak for a lot of people when I'm asking:

"We can haz internashunul shipd?" :D

site has been down all day... any update update?

hehe

Well I'll respond with the follow....

"U can Haz Shipd N-E werez if you putz in Customer Comments"

lol


I ment to say......

Here is one update:

Looks like all orders will go out today except for the one who purchased 2x5870's I'm all out of those and I will issue a refund.

I hope you guys read Xenland's posts before you trust his site.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=41955.0

He says he is security minded but doesn't care about doing security in his open source projects that are security basics 101. He introduces some lame small bounty for hacking his site. Really? I can win bitcents finding exploits or I can hack your user database or steal coins. Which one do you think sounds better to a hacker? Then he says he purposely puts in security problems so he can monitor them and plug them later. Just absolutely epic. Welcome to Xenland's project. The next GOXED.

Please "wannaBhacker" don't invade my thread with your accusations, please start your own thread I'd be happy to answer any questions.

I don't know where he got the idea i have Bitcoins stored on my server.

All Bitcoins get sent to an encrypted offline wallet which is stored on a USB stick. This USB stick is only used on a computer that has been wiped and this computer is only used for bussiness purposes such as for example "Transfering Bitcoins to an exchanger".

I have to get back to work and would like to assure everyone that nothing is wrong and I don't know why wannaBHacker has the need to attack me. The website will be up shortly with the statuses of everyones orders.

Website will be up in about an hour with the statuses of all invoices updated. On another side note, I'm setting everything to "not available" until I get my admin panel to have more features. I was going to just work off the MySql commands and do everything manually the first month but if I get this many customers(which isn't much) it will be impossible to get orders out same day. So when the website comes back online everyone just be patient if you really want to order somthing, its for the good!

Website back up: https://www.CheaperInBitcoins.com everything is set to "Not Available" until I get my admin panel to do the things i need done. I will still be personally auditing incoming and outgoing transactions and checking for inconsistencies with purchases.

Anyone wanting to do international shipping it would be cheaper to go through the following website: www.shipito.com until I get international shipping integrated into the system.(which I don't plan on integrating for another month and a half).

*Plans to get a better "Customer Support" widget the current one doesn't alert me like it supposed to, apologizes to anybody trying to contact customer support.

PM me here with your signed up email address and what I can help you with for now anyways.

Hey man can you order certain video cards? I want one that isn't listed, a Visiontek 6870.

Just queried my suppliers and none of them have that, I'm currently pushing diligently to getting an direct AMD supplier. Which I've applied twice for a partnership over the course of 2 months and no response what so ever, I'll be making some more phone calls/emails with other AMD suppliers but I doubt they will take me seriously until I have a good track record and a few references.

I'll Be leaving this forum You can find my Cheaper In Bitcoins announcements on an "other" forum. Cheaper In Bitcoins has changed a few things
1]BTC value will change once a day.
2]Motherboards and CPU's will be added tomorrow.
3]I purchased back some bonds at the price of 1.2BTC today on GLBSE I'll purchase back more when some more products get sold.
4]Good bye everyone
5]I wont tell you which forum I'm lurking at.... becuase I'm not comming back here ever again..Sory folks!!

Power supplies, Motherboards, Ram, and more over at www.Cheaper In Bitcoins .com thats www.CheaperInBitcoins.com
Use the toll free number if you need any assistance with anything! Thanks, Xenland! (I only speaka english)

Came back to say:

Now that I have a pretty good feel for how things will operate and the flow of it all, It seems after any order it will take 2-3 days for money to transfer to bank account, after that it takes 1 more day for bank to approve. Then I send money to my supplier(s) and they will ship it same day or the day after. My personal credit limit is lower then orders I'm getting so that was an issue but I have raised it to get orders out faster. Getting a Business line of credit so me and my customers wont have to wait the 2-3 day period for bank transfers. Once the bank clears my line of credit all orders will be next-day(if not same day) shipped.

Thanks everyone for helping me get my service into gear by being supportive! I will be sure to keep pushing my business further!


If your weary of purchasing from me, Might I recommend purchasing something small to "test the waters?" Lots of people already are purchasing keyboards/mouse combos to test out my service!

Call my toll free number if you need help with anything or If I'm messing up you can call and bitch me out: +1 (877)563-0721
I don't care what you do just tell everyone about bitcoins! and how they can prevent identity theft!

Daily rotating backups are working successfully it seems. These backups are downloaded weekly to prevent from database lost (if some how rack spaces guarantees fail)

Data loss is directly proportional to the amount of time that has passed since the last back up. :D

When i speak i have the habit of talking in worst case scenarios. so worst case scenario at worst I would loose about a weeks worth of information and right now since sales are about once a week its not a big deal in the future this will change. I'm constantly auditing and working on my system so its in reality backed up daily sometime hourly when i'm testing updates. I said a week because there will be 3-5 day intervals where i take breaks from the CIB project and work on other things.

With all that said rack-space guarantees all data integrity as they have two backs for my cloud server so if there is any hardware failure their guarantee is only and hour of wait time and any wait time after i get hosting credits.

Cloud Hosting: http://www.rackspace.com/cloud/cloud_hosting_products/servers/

Downtine Garuntee: http://www.rackspace.com/cloud/legal/sla/

I'm going to be adding a major update of products, some home decor type things. stuff that you can purchase for your home and small priced items.

Hows business been going? Releasing anymore bonds soon?

Its going well but I'm pushing on getting bank funding to get transactions going a little bit quicker. Right now i basically rely on how long bank transfers are going.


I believe there is 4 bonds left unless someone else snagged them.


On a side note:
You can see recently shipped and purchased items by heading over to www.cheaperinbitcoins.com/daemon
A customer posted up pictures of their recieved product and ill get the link posted soon

I've found these pictures from another forum and I wish not to disclose any information on the customer unless they'd like to come out and say who they are them selves anyways. here is some pics from a successful ship, Enjoy!

http://imgur.com/a/UaQJs#ugzD8


You can tell the purchase is legit by going to https://cheaperinbitcoins.com/daemon

"Todays" on the main site should be "Today's".

Thanks mate!

Wait wouldn't that be, "Today is"?

The contraction "Today's" can mean "Today is" or "Belonging to Today"

I'm going to be selling more shares, I think their are two or three still floating around I need to pay off. I need to fix my contract of the minor error which I will do when I pay off the rest of the shares. I need about 2 or 3 more sales to do that...

I will be adding more products to the "home & garden" section. They will be updated in the next 24 hours!

I will be glad to offer customer Pics...  when my 5870 arrives.   

I still do not see tracking information, will this be updated? or should I just keep a sharp eye out for the ups truck :)

Jim

Definably! I was going to put tracking information for your particular product but, i figured it would confuse you (and the other few customers) seeing their products destination towards my business address since in this particular case I purchased from alternate supplier to try them out. In fact everyone's 5870's came today, I just need to repackage and resend.

You will see a tracking number when its on the way to your shipping location.

I'd also like to note that I am no longer selling things from this alternate supplier as they do not ship directly to the customer. they require everything to be shipped to my address, and this has been creating alot of angry people thinking I ran off with their BTC(not jjimm_64 tho he is chill as a bird). The main items affecting this decision will be some computer cases and all of the video cards.

Thanks for your time Jim!

http://s4.postimage.org/2n030u9us/IMG_0526.jpg (http://postimage.org/image/2n030u9us/)

2nd shipment of products are here!!!


(From left to right)

Bigbox: 2 cases
Middles box: 2 video cards
Right box: 1 video card

Of course Im chill....  I already have about 40 gpus...  still deciding which one I'm gona knock out to put in the new 5870 :)

I just wanted to buy something with bitcoins, and I couldn't think of a better item then a 5870!!

So I rewrote the original post to show some new people to CIB about the efforst I'm taking to keeping everyone safe.
The following is a copy and paste of what I wrote on the Original post, and the original post will be a quick and easy way to get updates.

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Cheaper In Bitcoins is going strong! So I'd like to take a minute to discuss some security measures I am taking to keeping everyones investment in the company safe(this includes investors and customers).

1]First off I'd like to say I use a 4096 Bit SSL encryption to keep your login credentials from being hi-jacked from you upon encryption(the 4096 bit may be down graded to 2048 scince I my certs were filtered through COMODO, I don't know what they do to the SSL but I know thats their minimum requirement)

2]The website has been audited through a PHP auditor program (nothing special honestly, it just makes sure I'm not prone to being MySql injected but thats about it)

3]The website has been stress tested by various auditors on the forum for a small bounty.(This was mainly to prevent from nasty error messages not securing the website in particular, I was asked if the database was off limites I told them they would get a bonus bounty if they could give me a SQL data dump, but I got no data-dump reported back. I also compared the original database to the database after the "crackings"/"hackings" and There was no altered data which basically means that no-one got in, unless of course the hacker was able to retrieve the info then changed the info to see if they could do it then changed it back to leave no trace. Which is quite possible but highly-doubtful).

4]Once BTCs are confirmed they are sent to an Off-line wallet immediately. So basically I got this script that sends all confirmed BTC's to a hard-coded BTC address, this address never sees the on-line world until I need to use it to refund bank accounts. Even then I go on this computer I got that is nothing special except that I wiped the whole thing, and put Ubuntu Linux on it and only use it for bussiness/CIB purposes. So its virtually impossible for CIB to get GOXED.

5]CIB is less prone to Phishing attacks since I purchased multiple "like" cheaperinbitcoins.com domain names a small list consists of the following
CHEAPERINBITCOIN.COM
CHEAPERINBITCOINS.COM
CHEAPERINCOINS.COM
CHEAPERINCOINS.NET
CHEAPERWITHBITCOIN.COM
CHEAPERWITHBITCOINS.COM
CHEAPERWITHCOINS.COM
CHEAPEREXCHANGE.COM

Man... o man... everyone gonna flip! when they see all the new jquery effects. I'm thinking wont be another month till CIB is open back up again for bussiness! We need did get one sale before the close, so some bonds will be paid back.

Stay tuned everyone!

CIB will be done in 5 days or so and product purchase will be available again. After the update my cart will natively support Gift Cards, and "Multiple Options" for products and items so this means I can sell Books and have a "Hard Cover" or "Soft Cover" options available to choose from which makes it easier on the shopper since everything will be on one page and layed out all over the place

So much more to be done I think I might be able to get the site going live by tonight who knows until then you can check out the new features. One of the most notable features is the exentsive use of JQuery and Ajax to help with everyones shopping experience. I want Bitcoin shops to look good and Authentic as possible so I hope this make Bitcoin look good in the end in comparison to fiat retail shops.

Here is an example product page that utilizes both available options types go ahead play with the qty and the options and watch the numbers change live:
http://cheaperinbitcoins.com/product.php?id=2621

My shipping options will be changing to Help assist me in getting faster shipping. So make sure you read the new terms of service page as well when the site goes live.



Oh yeah why is it so hard to leave this forum?
Its worse then being addicted to crack!

I know...it is kind of depressing...but question, any idea if and when you'll get some more gpu's in? Then if anyone else shows interest, would stocking the HAF X be a future possibility? We have to have some people here who game, or do some overclocking work unrelated to bitcoin, and if so, the HAF X is an amazing case...heck any of the HAF series cases are great...just a thought...*Looks at his HAF X*...yea...I'm a little biased...

:P
That post made meh night!

Yeah I'll check into these HAF X....
 *Xenland searches through supplier products lists.....

Looks like I have these 2 (For some reason these are super expensive and have high shipping costs....)

The cost of this is $188.27
+Shipping cost(Flat Rate inside of USA): $150.00
http://computers.pricegrabber.com/cases/Cooler-Master-HAF-RC942KKN1-Black-Steel-Plastic/m792014722.html

I also have this one
The cost of this is $181.51
+Shipping cost(Flat Rate inside of USA): $150.00
http://www.google.com/products/catalog?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=HAF+X&oe=utf-8&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=8798012959753501500&sa=X&ei=89OLTpfYLc6ksQK9-Pm7BA&ved=0CDIQ8gIwAw

I wonder why shipping prices are soo expensive from my supplier, Maybe just shipping insurance? I wonder if the shipping prices are like these everywhere else?



On another note here is a page with multiple images to show off the photo gallery just click on the product image to see a variety of photos in a slide show format
http://cheaperinbitcoins.com/product.php?id=2584

Wow...that's insane shipping...even with insurance, it shouldn't be near that much...oh well, at least the option has been explored. But I do like the new look of the site, much cleaner.

Yes that is a bummer, the best I can do is cut off $5 from the price scince I'm selling everything for dirt cheap to get the ball rolling but what is $5 compared to that price tag so....that doesn't help XD .

I'm looking through other high priced cases and they are all exactly $150 shipping cost, they must do that for insurance I'm sure..unless they way like 50lbs?

 If business keeps going like it is I'll be able to ditch my current supplier and get an even more authentic business going here. Looking our for some name brand wholesale suppliers if anybody wants to PM me for some help to get the Bitcoin ball rolling with some wholesalers options.

Remember Gift cards will be sold when the website is released :D
This includes debit cards, godaddy cards, amazon, web hosting costs....etc,etc
I hope this solves the gift card "trust" issues I read around here.

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Here is another update I forgot to point out:
There are now Jquery+Ajax sliders to help with pages and price ranges try out the sliders your self:
http://cheaperinbitcoins.com/product_listing.php?category=70

Sign ups will be available in the few days and the official website will be updated

Release should be up tomorrow!
I'll keep you guys posted :D

I hope I'm not just talking to my self here either :P
Lets hear some noise? You guys want to give Bitcoin a name help me help you. The better we make bitcoin look the higher the price goes. So if anybody has any suggestions at all I'm all ears. I'm a sensible person I believe an Idea only works with the original person assisting/involved in it for it to succeed; Just some assurance I'm not looking to steal Ideas I want to open business opportunities I'm open to paying commission for your ideas just name you price, I'll only use your idea if we are in an agreement.

Im always checking your site out, hoping coins bounce a bit up in value before i take one of your ironkeys from you <3

Good to hear I got some peeps watching... as long as I got one Imma keep running my store.

Progress is going good. Just got 3 simple pages to do
"register"
"forgot password"
"cronjobs"

release should be here tomorrow as expected as long as everything goes alright.
I'm checking out "re-loadable debit" cards and how I can use them for my store.
It looks like it requires a lot of sensitive information in order to acquire one like social security and stuff like that
So instead of selling re-loadable debit cards I will sell my services to "reloading" already purchased debit cards.

In the future I will eventually hire someone with bank security expertise and probably run a Bitcoin Debit card system
but for now I'm going to see how this fails or succeeds before I do anything BIG!

Thought you guys might like these stats
http://s4.postimage.org/ifjq5q6rz/Screenshot.png (http://www.postimage.org/)




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Slight delay but released move to tonight still finishing up some stuff and some testing

We are watching, keep up the good work..

Got an email back about the insane shipping prices this was their response....

Cheaper In Bitcoins.com is Online again
Most notable features are the product page, product listing pages, and the shopping cart interface. Everything is a little bit more automated as well :D

SSL will be up sometime this week

i get Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at cheaperinbitcoins.com.

Https does not work if thats what you typed in if not maybe your dns database is old try the following address

http://cheaperincoins.com

The forum software hates your link :D. Try that.

thanks dree12 I fixed my post as well ;)

Fix your sig too! It's broken for me.

Sig fixed! Thanks johnj!


BTW I can't remember if i said this already, the new website will require anybody to resign up
As required by California law to keep my sales records for 4 years I have everyone's info from the past purchases.

Looks like bitcoin wasn't running appoligizes to those whom were trying to "CheckOut"

I was just able to successfully check out a product :D

I will now attempt to offer re-loadable debit cards.....give me a couple of days ;)

Fixed: Issue with shopping cart not sending any information as to what products should be deleted when clicking "remove"
Fixed: Issue with not showing shipping on product pages.

I check out your store a couple of times a week.

I too am hoping bitcoins bounce up a bit before I throw 20 at a blender ;)

Thanks for the input johnj

It is indeed a shame for Bitcoins to only flow when they are worth a lot in fait value.

Also I posted some google adsense ads to pay for hosting please click on them but I'm obligated to tell you only click on them if they interest you ;)

On the upside, with the looming massive difficulty drop, the bitcoins should be flowing a bit easier from the miners

Wow, I haven't even noticed difficulty drop. Thats very good news :D
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Also to anyone whom was looking to purchase the http://www.google.com/products/catalog?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=GA-990FXA-UD3&oe=utf-8&um=1&hl=en&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.,cf.osb&biw=1600&bih=703&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=7572919386099921060&sa=X&ei=o6CWTtPLI9TZiQKBrryZDQ&ved=0CGEQ8wIwAA

It looks like that mother board has been discontinued(by my supplier(s))and I am no longer selling it. Sorry guys :(

Terms and Conditions have been amended to accommodate the up coming services. here is what has been amended....

Black and Decker Blender for only roughly 14 BTC (includes flat rate shipping in USA) Check it out http://cheaperinbitcoins.com/product?id=2724
http://cheaperinbitcoins.com/images/products/2724.jpg

Can you elaborate what exactly it is your talking about?

Bored much? I like ponies too but that post you originally had there was just ridicules.... Basically you were saying that ... well geez I actually can't even remember I'm so flabbergasted by it.

Looks like everything is working and tested, You may now purchase a debit card that can be used anywhere mastercard is accepted. Its only 0.5BTC per card(includes loading) and its only 0.5BTC per reload alone.
http://cheaperinbitcoins.com/product.php?id=2800

So...you get a reloadable debit-card...do you load it with Bitcoins?

You got it mate!

Just go to the product page and type in the value you want in the additional options section then click check out your price will be auto calculated and the value will be put on the card will be the best available value from multiple exchanges.

So I talked to McAfee and what they had to offer with their services and it sounds like great news but the price might be a little too steep for right now.

*Basically they test over 10,000 security vulnerabilities.

*If after 3 days the vulnerability(s) are not fixed the (McAfee Secured) image will disappear.

*McAfee secured has been shown to improve bounce rates(Meaning people wont even bother looking at your store with out some kind of security checks) so that could be increased sales and page views

*McAfee secured shows up in over 19 different search engines.

*Any security vulnerabilities I will get a report saying how to fix the vulnerabilities.

------------------------------------------------- Their pricing------------------------------------------------
Base pricing allows you to scan and certify your site with up to 6,000 average daily page views:

1 year $2,017.00

2 year $2,976.00 Special Promotion: 25% off

3 year $3,934.00 Special Promotion: 33.33% off **BEST VALUE**

Thinking out of the box here a little bit...

A sweet phone app would be to have a Bitcoin wallet tied to your debit-card. The app would show your balance in BTC and in $.

When you want to spend BTC you use the app to send a payment. If you want to pay in cash you transfer some money to the card and pay with the card.

Of course, ideally the best thing would be if you could go from cash on the card to BTC.

My take of it is that he wants to buy My Little Pony videos with BTC. :)

You should have seen the post that was their before he was talking about ponies. Its was like 3 paragraphs long of why my cute website will fail or something that then he changed it. I think hes trolling or he posted in the wrong thread by accidident either way i was still like "wtf mate"

This is under the assumption that I want to do your Firefox/chrome plug-in thing... some people don't like downloading things because it is one more thing they must learn.
viruses... spy ware.. How does anybody know that your firefox chrome plug-in isn't swiping .00001 of a cent by rounding?

anyways I always wanted to open up my own store and I think I found a good niche! Once I get more funding I can have a bigger niche just like amazon... all in good time my friends....

I'm already working on something similar already I just need cash flow.

Got a new supplier GPUS are up.
www.CheaperInBitcoins.com

Your so right peter
I knew I should have quoted it, it was really ridicules to be repeated but you did a good job at helping me understand exactly what he ment. :P Darn kids!!!
We should have a DNA scanning system integrated for Bitcoin, only 20+ year old people are allowed to use it :P

Automated emails will be up shortly to notify you of confirmed payments, when you sign up, and when there is something changed to your account.

Automated emails arn't here yet but I did make the product listings scroll back to the top of the page upon page changes just play with this page and click on pages to see what i mean http://cheaperinbitcoins.com/listproducts.php?category=61

Investors report coming soon. I'm thinking I should be able to get to work and publish it tonight in PDF and HTML format. It wasn't looking good this month so I'll post up Septembers income as well which looked a lot better.

Yeah I'm gonna have to get back to you guys on Septembers report its really embarrassing how much losses I took to on purpose to attempt to get the name out there that I'm a legit seller. instead I think it had the opposite effect as I just in the end lost money and didn't get anymore real sales. Anyways they say it takes up to a year to make real income for an emerging business. Any who... Here is Octobers Profit reports. I wasn't sure how much more detailed I could get with this so I'll just give you guys this and any more information I'll just revise and re-post if this is not what a proper report should look like

http://postimage.org/image/aias32ppz/


If you have something to revise please be serious if you want to be taken seriously.

October 3rd to November 2nd Stats

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A whole heap of products will go live in the next 48 hours.

Reset password page now works let me know how well it works for you guys too!
https://cheaperinbitcoins.com/resetpassword

I know I bet your all thinking ..... about time....

Search phrase active now!!!

http://cheaperinbitcoins.com/listproducts.php?category=86

You can find our first RSS feed here:http://cheaperinbitcoins.com/rssfeed


Don't forget to check out our blog at

http://cheaperinbitcoins.com/blog

Been noticing a lot of MySql Injection attempts over the past month.....

Database still intact!

Please.... keep trying I sure do love the lulz.

the only problem is that its not actually cheaper in bitcoins here. Its more expensive. :(

Some things are cheaper and some are expensive....

Anything you were looking for in particular? Maybe I can give you a better quote?

What is the status of Cheaper in Bitcoins?
When is the bond buy back going to happen?

Running behind on alot of things, Website will be back up shortly today (December 1st PST)

Payouts will happen when I compile all the spending/cost data.

Thanks for everyones patience

Okay I'm catching up quick status | Payouts should happen tonight at or around 12 AM PST time

I'm compiling data now.

I'm not trying to rush you. You paying 20% as it is. I was just wondering what was going on. Have haven't been exactly active in the community lately myself.

Can you explain a little bit better exactly what your asking?

take offense at this by all means, but you don't reply to pms or emails and when you do your awnsers are not friendly.

You've been PMing me?

and Emailing me?


Seriously... you've been emailing me?

Edit: even if you have been emailing me, I respond in a timely manner(within 3 days) and try to be polite as possible. If anything I think its pretty childish to publicly humiliate me with out first speaking to me personally...

Xenland has been prompt and courteous in every pm I've had with him.

Profits have been compiled, sorry it took so long there was an issue i had to look into further but it seems it was just a lack of record keeping on my part so I had to take the extra time to make sure everything was fine which it is. Basically a customer had changed their order and I edited the database with out writing any notes on the changes so it seemed like their was something that wasn't adding up.


Any who here is the link to the profits report: http://pastebin.com/YRBMJQM8

Payouts will happen as soon as i get all the BTC confirmed into GLBSE

I knew I couldn't been "all" bad

pleased to announce we are working together with Xenland of CIB. we bring you this promotion

CIB + IBB are doing a promotion

www.CheaperInBitcoins.com + www.IB-Bitcoin.com

http://cheaperinbitcoins.com/images/posters/ibtcposter.jpg (https://cheaperinbitcoins.com)

so go to www.CheaperInBitcoins.com and buy something and have a chance at winning 1 Treasure Box each Week.

5 hours left until the next draw!!

hmm Good Luck to customers

This website does not display in IE9 ?

Strange...

Apologizes I thought Microsoft said they were going to start including Firefox instead of IE in their next release of windows....

Right...

This isn't some laughing matter. 60% of the consumers will be using IE, and it should be important to support it.

That's probably an over estimation as only 2% of hits are from IE users that even view the website.
Where are getting your stats? I'm very inclinced to know who conducted the study.