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Title: This New App Can Show Bitcoin Transactions Without Internet
Post by: coinpediaJordan on May 16, 2018, 11:07:11 AM
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Now you can deal with your bitcoin transactions offline. Yes! You got it right. Samourai Bitcoin wallet and goTenna, decentralized communications startup is launching an app which is active without internet connection.

Read news here: https://coinpedia.org/news/app-bitcoin-transactions-without-internet/


Title: Re: This New App Can Show Bitcoin Transactions Without Internet
Post by: apelmerah on May 16, 2018, 11:15:50 AM
It's a really great app and I love it very much, but we also need it or if there is an application that can be used in trading in the market.


Title: Re: This New App Can Show Bitcoin Transactions Without Internet
Post by: The cure on May 16, 2018, 12:19:30 PM
That's good one apps if ever,but i think,i should download that first to know a lot of features included on that application. It could help many people most specially if someone was at the urban places.


Title: Re: This New App Can Show Bitcoin Transactions Without Internet
Post by: dikiyono on May 16, 2018, 12:38:31 PM
I see this application is very good, but if it can be trusted if connected to the internet network, I see many apps that steal bitcoin owners, how can we trust it, give us a way to understand the usage of the application?
let's develop this app if it is very good.


Title: Re: This New App Can Show Bitcoin Transactions Without Internet
Post by: Xester on May 16, 2018, 12:45:31 PM
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Now you can deal with your bitcoin transactions offline. Yes! You got it right. Samourai Bitcoin wallet and goTenna, decentralized communications startup is launching an app which is active without internet connection.

Read news here: https://coinpedia.org/news/app-bitcoin-transactions-without-internet/

This is very cool technology since this is the answer for bitcoins weakness and that is its total dependency on the internet. But with this app the lack of internet connection to do some payment will no longer a problem. Hope this technology will be available around the world so that all merchants can have this app and we the clients can pay their services or goods using bitcoin without worries.


Title: Re: This New App Can Show Bitcoin Transactions Without Internet
Post by: Glory90 on May 16, 2018, 01:01:23 PM
https://coinpedia.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/This-New-App-Can-Show-Bitcoin-Transactions-Without-Internet.jpg

Now you can deal with your bitcoin transactions offline. Yes! You got it right. Samourai Bitcoin wallet and goTenna, decentralized communications startup is launching an app which is active without internet connection.

Read news here: https://coinpedia.org/news/app-bitcoin-transactions-without-internet/
It's Cool, nowadays internet is no longer an obstacle to transactions, I hope this application continues to be developed and can support some other cryptocurrency such as ETH, LTC, XMR and so on


Title: Re: This New App Can Show Bitcoin Transactions Without Internet
Post by: peter0425 on May 16, 2018, 01:24:11 PM
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However, the process uses a free and unlicensed radio frequency. Besides, its not the first partnership to explore such potential for crypto systems.

https://coinpedia.org/news/app-bitcoin-transactions-without-internet/

Is it just me or are we going backwards? It going to used RF, How can they prevent interference then? I'm not a electronics and communications engineer, but something doesn't sound right (no pun intended).


Title: Re: This New App Can Show Bitcoin Transactions Without Internet
Post by: Alkhalifi69 on May 16, 2018, 01:33:57 PM
https://coinpedia.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/This-New-App-Can-Show-Bitcoin-Transactions-Without-Internet.jpg

Now you can deal with your bitcoin transactions offline. Yes! You got it right. Samourai Bitcoin wallet and goTenna, decentralized communications startup is launching an app which is active without internet connection.

Read news here: https://coinpedia.org/news/app-bitcoin-transactions-without-internet/
wooow ,,, a very cool apps. hopefully the application is fast exist all over the country so everyone can access bitcoin without any obstacle because of limitations of internet.
this application is very helpful especially very important for people who are in the mountains are usually difficult with the reach of the internet.


Title: Re: This New App Can Show Bitcoin Transactions Without Internet
Post by: YzzyGo on May 16, 2018, 01:34:17 PM
Looks promising and really a step ahead for bitcoin transacting. But my concern would be security. Using third party to handle the transacting on your already "hot" wallet doesn't look right to me. I guess we'll just have to wait and see. Paypal works almost the same way being the middleman for your online transactions and they're successful.


Title: Re: This New App Can Show Bitcoin Transactions Without Internet
Post by: ManaMan on May 16, 2018, 01:40:34 PM
Good to see positive side of Samuarai, I like the fact that they are open source and were one of the first wallets to go with SegWit and now that I hear this, it is really cool. As with such thing you can use it anywhere in the world without wifi which is huge advantage.


Title: Re: This New App Can Show Bitcoin Transactions Without Internet
Post by: kaya11 on May 16, 2018, 01:44:20 PM
Wow this would really be helpful in countries that have no internet at all. With these people who lived in rural areas can use Bitcoin and transact anytime or anywhere they want. More and more progress are now happening and it will benefit us all.


Title: Re: This New App Can Show Bitcoin Transactions Without Internet
Post by: freesia_pnp888 on May 17, 2018, 03:18:13 PM
it's actually an awesome idea, like we're hiking and no internet whatsoever then we want to check it!


Title: Re: This New App Can Show Bitcoin Transactions Without Internet
Post by: bakujo0817 on May 17, 2018, 03:27:41 PM
https://coinpedia.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/This-New-App-Can-Show-Bitcoin-Transactions-Without-Internet.jpg

Now you can deal with your bitcoin transactions offline. Yes! You got it right. Samourai Bitcoin wallet and goTenna, decentralized communications startup is launching an app which is active without internet connection.

Read news here: https://coinpedia.org/news/app-bitcoin-transactions-without-internet/
wow this is cool is project then if this is gonna be successfull i think bitcoin will be more popular it solve one of the problem of bitcoin hope they do support also on other coin.


Title: Re: This New App Can Show Bitcoin Transactions Without Internet
Post by: Wexnident on May 17, 2018, 03:35:05 PM
https://coinpedia.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/This-New-App-Can-Show-Bitcoin-Transactions-Without-Internet.jpg

Now you can deal with your bitcoin transactions offline. Yes! You got it right. Samourai Bitcoin wallet and goTenna, decentralized communications startup is launching an app which is active without internet connection.

Read news here: https://coinpedia.org/news/app-bitcoin-transactions-without-internet/

It's really good to know that there will be an app like that which is using btc transaction with offline mode. This would be mean that there are much more people can use that apps even without internet connection because even if without a signal in some areas it can be also use it, so I'm very thankful to the developer of this technology. Good job.


Title: Re: This New App Can Show Bitcoin Transactions Without Internet
Post by: Liternyy on May 17, 2018, 03:36:39 PM
GoTenna manufactures customized hardware for easy communication based on network topology. This interaction is consistent with the decentralized nature of digital currencies, so that smartphone owners can connect directly to each other to route packets, without the need to connect to the Internet or to a mobile operator.


Title: Re: This New App Can Show Bitcoin Transactions Without Internet
Post by: BayAgapito on May 17, 2018, 03:42:20 PM
If this is true then it can solve many issues and can help in the progress of bitcoin. This can solve the problem when you can't use or trade in a remote area without internet connection. This is awesome but makes me wonder if this is safe.


Title: Re: This New App Can Show Bitcoin Transactions Without Internet
Post by: giantrobot on May 17, 2018, 03:53:11 PM
https://coinpedia.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/This-New-App-Can-Show-Bitcoin-Transactions-Without-Internet.jpg

Now you can deal with your bitcoin transactions offline. Yes! You got it right. Samourai Bitcoin wallet and goTenna, decentralized communications startup is launching an app which is active without internet connection.

Read news here: https://coinpedia.org/news/app-bitcoin-transactions-without-internet/
This is a great app. I think it will be of great interest and use. We should develop this application very well. It will help us in the future


Title: Re: This New App Can Show Bitcoin Transactions Without Internet
Post by: bigmaster23 on May 17, 2018, 03:58:10 PM
what a wonderful creation tracking bitcoin transaction even if not online, such a brilliant wondrous developers, but in depth overview with the price of hundred and seventy dollar would make the user less attractive to the app if they could lower the price in half many people would really do love this app,

using the frequency of the antenna to do the transaction was really a fine idea but sync the device with the app was something doubtable.


Title: Re: This New App Can Show Bitcoin Transactions Without Internet
Post by: dothebeats on May 17, 2018, 04:33:44 PM
It doesn’t seem to be too easy, one need to have device called goTenna mesh that costs $179. The txTenna app will allows users to sync their mobile with goTenna device. Later, using UHF frequencies, allows you to transact offline and send bitcoin with cellular data.

That doesn't seem to be offline at all. You will still need data connectivity even though they advertise it being 'offline'. The only offline part I see here is the use of UHF frequencies. Afterwards, in order to completely do or execute the transaction you'll need to turn on your mobile data and that's it. There's still the need to use the internet in order to relay the tx to the nodes and the rest is history, so this gadget isn't really allowing you to send BTC in dire situations without the internet.


Title: Re: This New App Can Show Bitcoin Transactions Without Internet
Post by: ajqjjj on May 17, 2018, 05:53:57 PM
https://coinpedia.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/This-New-App-Can-Show-Bitcoin-Transactions-Without-Internet.jpg

Now you can deal with your bitcoin transactions offline. Yes! You got it right. Samourai Bitcoin wallet and goTenna, decentralized communications startup is launching an app which is active without internet connection.

Read news here: https://coinpedia.org/news/app-bitcoin-transactions-without-internet/
I am also heard this news it is really useful in current scenario. Many peoples are interested this app because it is reduce the risk of internet connection and this technology is both positive and negative of our economy. So many regulations are possible in future crypto platform.


Title: Re: This New App Can Show Bitcoin Transactions Without Internet
Post by: Musstang on May 17, 2018, 05:57:59 PM
https://coinpedia.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/This-New-App-Can-Show-Bitcoin-Transactions-Without-Internet.jpg

Now you can deal with your bitcoin transactions offline. Yes! You got it right. Samourai Bitcoin wallet and goTenna, decentralized communications startup is launching an app which is active without internet connection.

Read news here: https://coinpedia.org/news/app-bitcoin-transactions-without-internet/
Oh, it's great! I'll definitely try, I wanted something for a long time.
I hope that it will be convenient to use


Title: Re: This New App Can Show Bitcoin Transactions Without Internet
Post by: Reid on May 17, 2018, 06:04:50 PM
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However, the process uses a free and unlicensed radio frequency. Besides, its not the first partnership to explore such potential for crypto systems.

https://coinpedia.org/news/app-bitcoin-transactions-without-internet/

Is it just me or are we going backwards? It going to used RF, How can they prevent interference then? I'm not a electronics and communications engineer, but something doesn't sound right (no pun intended).

After reading this, I am on the brink of going to google already.
But guess what, thanks to the post below everything is cleared.

But that RF thing is really an old way. How will I convert it to convert to my phone plugs and everything? That is just too much and they will to invent something again to make it work to the phone.
Let us go back black and white TV next time.  ;D

It doesn’t seem to be too easy, one need to have device called goTenna mesh that costs $179. The txTenna app will allows users to sync their mobile with goTenna device. Later, using UHF frequencies, allows you to transact offline and send bitcoin with cellular data.

That doesn't seem to be offline at all. You will still need data connectivity even though they advertise it being 'offline'. The only offline part I see here is the use of UHF frequencies. Afterwards, in order to completely do or execute the transaction you'll need to turn on your mobile data and that's it. There's still the need to use the internet in order to relay the tx to the nodes and the rest is history, so this gadget isn't really allowing you to send BTC in dire situations without the internet.

Thanks you.
No need to go google now.  ;D
I guess some posts here really needs a lot of reading before it can be cleared out.
I hope others will do that too before posting I like this and that and cool BS.  ;D


Title: Re: This New App Can Show Bitcoin Transactions Without Internet
Post by: FrueGreads on May 17, 2018, 06:22:18 PM
This looks quite interesting, and it would be nice step for bitcoin in terms of becoming a payment processor. Visa for example, can also work with either a phone connection or internet connection. I do believe that most of them just use internet since it's quite faster (10s over a phone per transaction and up to 3s over the internet, if research is correct), but I do think it's important that both methods are available, as it would be possible to reach much more areas that way.

Would this affect lightning network as well? Because as far as I know, transactions over the LN require the "channels" to be online for tx to be processed.


Title: Re: This New App Can Show Bitcoin Transactions Without Internet
Post by: SkynetInvasion on May 17, 2018, 07:08:44 PM
technology take aparts


Title: Re: This New App Can Show Bitcoin Transactions Without Internet
Post by: Roboabhishek on May 17, 2018, 07:30:07 PM
This is cool but not very useful. I think this was made to show off the technology and can be used for many other more important things.
As the internet is all throughout the world and bitcoin was built on the internet, trying to remove it from the internet is just one step backward.
As for the cost most, people have a phone and can get data for that sort of cost, however, I do see potential in this.


Title: Re: This New App Can Show Bitcoin Transactions Without Internet
Post by: CoinstarF on May 19, 2018, 11:22:55 AM
No one realize their idea already realized long time ago, even though it's not automatic. All they do are :
1. Keeping transaction and UTXO on local device storage.
2. Sign transaction offline with saved UTXO list.
3. Send the signed transaction to another device which will broadcast to Bitcoin network.

But since their wallet is open-source, their wallet might become popular.

Wow this app could be very helpful to low level community even without internet we can access transactions that means less expenses hoping it will successfully launch and can be used as soon as possible.


Title: Re: This New App Can Show Bitcoin Transactions Without Internet
Post by: asraaf8687 on May 28, 2018, 03:59:38 AM
I see this app is very good and popular, but if it can be trusted to connect to the internet network, then many applications that steal bitcoin users, then how should we believe, give way to understand the use of the application? then we should develop the application if it is very good and big profits.


Title: Re: This New App Can Show Bitcoin Transactions Without Internet
Post by: asraaf8687 on May 28, 2018, 04:05:06 AM
I see this app is very good and popular, but if it can be trusted to connect to the internet network, then many applications that steal bitcoin users, then how should we believe, give way to understand the use of the application? then we should develop the application if it is very good and big profits.
this is very good an app if ever, but in my opinion think should download the first one to know or have many features obtained in an application. can only help a lot of people specifically someone is in urban areas.


Title: Re: This New App Can Show Bitcoin Transactions Without Internet
Post by: sieemma on May 31, 2018, 12:09:09 PM
This is a nice way of telling people to believe cryptocurrency. There are many issues concerning the use of crypto and this will help resolve one of them as some people think without data/internet, your money is gone forever.


Title: Re: This New App Can Show Bitcoin Transactions Without Internet
Post by: Masatos on August 22, 2018, 05:59:15 PM
the author will be interesting to work with this application I think people will very quickly spread the information about this application


Title: Re: This New App Can Show Bitcoin Transactions Without Internet
Post by: Jessica2009 on August 22, 2018, 06:41:26 PM
   The New York  based startup found on 2012 it was pairing up with Samourai wallet to launch an android app that can use for transaction without internet . A go Tenna decentralized comunications start up to transfer funds without an internet it transmits information over a long range without a cellular data or wifi connection .This device can come in handy when it can be used anywhere even there is no internet connectivity. we need an intermediary mesh device if we are in a remote area .


Title: Re: This New App Can Show Bitcoin Transactions Without Internet
Post by: A Feeder on September 22, 2018, 03:09:33 PM
Its great if that happen but i think before that you need to download to know a lot of features included on that application and make sure if that is really secure and because of that many people help of that app especially to the rural areas to more progress are happen and it will benefit us all.


Title: Re: This New App Can Show Bitcoin Transactions Without Internet
Post by: marlonbatotoy on September 22, 2018, 03:27:27 PM
Wow this cool and using this app will help the community easily can pay bitcoin also fastfood can download this app for bitcoin payers. But how it works? Using bluetooth?  Is this app can withdraw bitcoin to fiat? Well i think i need to know it for myself .


Title: Re: This New App Can Show Bitcoin Transactions Without Internet
Post by: raymond013 on October 06, 2018, 04:05:56 AM
If this is true, it can solve many problems and can help in the bitcoin process. This is great but make me wonder if this is safe. Using the frequency of the antenna to perform the transaction is really a good idea but synchronizing the device with the application is questionable. All they do is post offline transactions with the saved UTXO list. But since their wallets are open source, their wallets can become popular. Visa, for example, can also work with a telephone connection or internet connection. Does this affect network lightning?


Title: Re: This New App Can Show Bitcoin Transactions Without Internet
Post by: reverseflash on October 06, 2018, 05:11:28 AM
At first glance - a wonderful and useful application that allows to solve the main problem of Bitcoin - accessibility to it from anywhere in the world. But reading the characteristics, it turns out that it is not a new technology that is used, but ordinary cellular networks. And then the question arises, why should I buy it if, for example, in Ukraine all mobile network operators provide services internet...