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Title: Potential scammer Post by: WorldWideBTC on December 29, 2013, 10:35:27 PM What happened:: A user on the forums posted in currency exchange that he was looking to sell 0.3 BTC for Western Union. He wanted to be contacted via PM or email. I emailed him regarding the transaction. I was initially suspicious (Western Union?), but tried to reassure myself through negotiation. What I found out didn't exactly soothe my concerns.
1: He was selling 0.3 BTC at $192. This is far below the average price. 2: We agreed to use PayPal. I thought this would be better than WU, because at least with this I have a means of resolving a scam. However, the user lives in Israel, and you cannot send a Gift payment to Israel from the USA. The user wanted me to send the funds, open a dispute, close the dispute, and then he would send the funds. This (like WU) would leave me with no way to get my funds back if he pulled a fast one. 3: He was willing to accept half of the payment, send half of the coins, then finish the transaction. He was NOT willing to send half of the coins, receive the full payment, and send the rest. No matter what we negotiated, all outcomes would result in me sending a non-refundable payment to Israel with nothing to show for it but his "word". 4: I told him that it would take later today (negotiations were entered this morning) for me to get to a WU counter. He said that would be fine, and he is "online 24/7". This was a bit suspicious. 5: After driving to the grocery store where I can send a WU wire, I took his personal information (which is....) -------- Yarin Groiser Phone: 0523011189 Hadera, Israel -------- 6: After receiving his wire information, I filled out the form, withdrew $200 from the ATM, and asked him to send half of the coins. He refused. I explained that this entire situation is extremely sketchy. At one point he told me "I can proof you via teamviewer" regarding his wallet balance (I assume). Another hallmark of a scammer. 7: At the end of it all, he refused to send even a portion of the coins first, but was more than happy to accept a portion of the payment first. To a scammer, getting $10, $20, or $90 for doing nothing but sending emails is all the same - it's a payday. I informed him of my concerns regarding the points I've outlined here, informed him that I would be making a scam accusation on the forums, and wished him the best of luck. Scammers Profile Link: Unknown - the transaction thread is deleted. Reference Link: This is the link to the now deleted thread. You can google $192 from these forums and see a portion of the OP.https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=389954.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=389954.0) Amount Scammed: Attempted to scam me for $192 (or $96, depending on how you look at it) Payment Method: Western Union (Or PayPal after opening and immediately closing a dispute) Proof of Payment: No payment was made. PM/Chat Logs: I can provide the emails sent back and forth. Additional Notes: I don't have much to add. I tried to work with him to get a bit of protection for myself, but to no avail. His English (which wasn't great) remained consistent throughout the correspondence, so I ASSUME that it was just one person I was dealing with. I'm just posting this here so that if a newbie (or anyone) is approached by someone wanting a Western Union transaction to Israel, or if someone is asked to use the "method" of PayPal he suggested, they can be aware of my dealings with this person. Title: Re: Potential scammer Post by: Colin Miner on December 29, 2013, 10:38:35 PM Thanks for the 'heads up'
A really fishy smelling trail. Alarm bells ring all the way through. The phone number looks like a cell phone number, OK so most people use a cell phone, but a land line is useful to cross check the owners name. http://i41.tinypic.com/21kaxs4.jpg Yarin Groiser Skype: yarin.g1 Username for bitcointalk.org: CodingSerivce Birthday: 18 June 1990 see this post which looks relevant! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=360920.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=360920.0) Title: Re: Potential scammer Post by: merred on December 29, 2013, 10:47:25 PM Do you have the url to the thread? Try google webcache!
oh here he is http://photos1.meetupstatic.com/photos/member/5/f/b/6/member_160644502.jpeg Title: Re: Potential scammer Post by: WorldWideBTC on December 29, 2013, 10:54:26 PM Do you have the url to the thread? Try google webcache! oh here he is http://photos1.meetupstatic.com/photos/member/5/f/b/6/member_160644502.jpeg I wanted to use a cached version of the thread, but I didn't see the normal dropdown option for caching I normally do in a google search. Title: Re: Potential scammer Post by: Colin Miner on December 29, 2013, 10:54:32 PM Do you have the url to the thread? Try google webcache! Good Idea!http://i41.tinypic.com/30ttceo.jpg http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=389954.0 (http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=389954.0) Title: Re: Potential scammer Post by: jesusweb on January 08, 2014, 02:39:16 AM Mail: mivhancoil@gmail.com
Same user: CodingSerivce / MrBTC Ref: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=400652.0 Post 1 and Reply 3, 4... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=384832.0;wap2 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=390184.msg4200861#msg4200861 ... Title: Re: Potential scammer Post by: jimjam1210 on January 11, 2014, 12:54:18 AM scammer beware 100% took .24btc from me also his ste for coin making is fake watch him watch mrbtc his other user fake guy
Title: Re: Potential scammer Post by: gensen on January 21, 2014, 08:40:56 PM Confirm the Scammer scammed me from 0.1 BTC for making coins
Title: Re: Potential scammer Post by: Tomatocage on January 22, 2014, 06:08:56 AM What happened:: A user on the forums posted in currency exchange that he was looking to sell 0.3 BTC for Western Union. He wanted to be contacted via PM or email. I emailed him regarding the transaction. I was initially suspicious (Western Union?), but tried to reassure myself through negotiation. What I found out didn't exactly soothe my concerns. 1: He was selling 0.3 BTC at $192. This is far below the average price. 2: We agreed to use PayPal. I thought this would be better than WU, because at least with this I have a means of resolving a scam. However, the user lives in Israel, and you cannot send a Gift payment to Israel from the USA. The user wanted me to send the funds, open a dispute, close the dispute, and then he would send the funds. This (like WU) would leave me with no way to get my funds back if he pulled a fast one. 3: He was willing to accept half of the payment, send half of the coins, then finish the transaction. He was NOT willing to send half of the coins, receive the full payment, and send the rest. No matter what we negotiated, all outcomes would result in me sending a non-refundable payment to Israel with nothing to show for it but his "word". 4: I told him that it would take later today (negotiations were entered this morning) for me to get to a WU counter. He said that would be fine, and he is "online 24/7". This was a bit suspicious. 5: After driving to the grocery store where I can send a WU wire, I took his personal information (which is....) -------- Yarin Groiser Phone: 0523011189 Hadera, Israel -------- 6: After receiving his wire information, I filled out the form, withdrew $200 from the ATM, and asked him to send half of the coins. He refused. I explained that this entire situation is extremely sketchy. At one point he told me "I can proof you via teamviewer" regarding his wallet balance (I assume). Another hallmark of a scammer. 7: At the end of it all, he refused to send even a portion of the coins first, but was more than happy to accept a portion of the payment first. To a scammer, getting $10, $20, or $90 for doing nothing but sending emails is all the same - it's a payday. I informed him of my concerns regarding the points I've outlined here, informed him that I would be making a scam accusation on the forums, and wished him the best of luck. Scammers Profile Link: Unknown - the transaction thread is deleted. Reference Link: This is the link to the now deleted thread. You can google $192 from these forums and see a portion of the OP.https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=389954.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=389954.0) Amount Scammed: Attempted to scam me for $192 (or $96, depending on how you look at it) Payment Method: Western Union (Or PayPal after opening and immediately closing a dispute) Proof of Payment: No payment was made. PM/Chat Logs: I can provide the emails sent back and forth. Additional Notes: I don't have much to add. I tried to work with him to get a bit of protection for myself, but to no avail. His English (which wasn't great) remained consistent throughout the correspondence, so I ASSUME that it was just one person I was dealing with. I'm just posting this here so that if a newbie (or anyone) is approached by someone wanting a Western Union transaction to Israel, or if someone is asked to use the "method" of PayPal he suggested, they can be aware of my dealings with this person. All that and you didn't mention his user name? Title: Re: Potential scammer Post by: WorldWideBTC on January 22, 2014, 08:35:20 PM The thread was deleted shortly after I e-mailed him, and I didn't use PMing (so I didn't remember his username).
But you're right. I should have updated this thread after I received a bogus negative feedback score from him. Anyway. Cat is out of the bag now. He's tried to scam other people, and currently has a thread open in the currency exchange trying to scam even MORE people. Title: Re: Potential scammer Post by: Tomatocage on January 22, 2014, 08:47:07 PM The thread was deleted shortly after I e-mailed him, and I didn't use PMing (so I didn't remember his username). But you're right. I should have updated this thread after I received a bogus negative feedback score from him. Anyway. Cat is out of the bag now. He's tried to scam other people, and currently has a thread open in the currency exchange trying to scam even MORE people. Ok, and could you be so kind as to provide us a link and a username this time? I'm trying really hard, but I'm failing to read your mind. Title: Re: Potential scammer Post by: WorldWideBTC on January 22, 2014, 09:58:02 PM The thread was deleted shortly after I e-mailed him, and I didn't use PMing (so I didn't remember his username). But you're right. I should have updated this thread after I received a bogus negative feedback score from him. Anyway. Cat is out of the bag now. He's tried to scam other people, and currently has a thread open in the currency exchange trying to scam even MORE people. Ok, and could you be so kind as to provide us a link and a username this time? I'm trying really hard, but I'm failing to read your mind. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=166650 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=166650) Username: CodingSerivce The new thread I mentioned has been deleted. The post I made warning others about the user (and linking this scam accusation thread) doesn't show in my post history. It's difficult for me refer users to CodingSerivce's threads when they are nuked into oblivion. A user in the latest Currency Exchange thread CodingSerivce made (which is now gone) made a post (right after mine) saying that anyone doing business with him would receive negative reputation and/or be scammed. To summarize - 1: I made this thread way back when, suspecting this user is a scammer. 2: This user left me bogus negative feedback (and went on a negative feedback spree afterward). 3: This user has been making new Currency Exchange threads trying to bait others into sending him PayPal payments. He (I'm assuming it's him doing it) deletes the threads when they reach "Critical scam mass" and creates a new thread (eventually). *Edit* Here's an old thread of his. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=418514.msg4543464#msg4543464 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=418514.msg4543464#msg4543464) Same scam structure as always. His threads are almost always the same - He's "selling <x> BTC" for PayPal. Title: Re: Potential scammer Post by: crah on February 03, 2014, 10:49:28 PM meanwhile the gentleman in question is carring on with business; https://btcjam.com/listings/9836 (he did get a loan beforehand thought; https://btcjam.com/listings/9723).
some details from btcjam; Quote Credentials 7 followers eBay: xcrypter Facebook account connected 822 Friends Quote Account Ages eBay: 3 months Verified PayPal account connected 6 months Title: Re: Potential scammer Post by: Colin Miner on February 04, 2014, 12:44:53 PM meanwhile the gentleman in question is carring on with business; https://btcjam.com/listings/9836 (he did get a loan beforehand thought; https://btcjam.com/listings/9723). Nice find. Thanks for your detective work. From his information on btcjam he my well have connections to the Givat Olga neighborhood, Hadera, Israel. and email shonroza@gmail.com Title: Re: Potential scammer Post by: WorldWideBTC on February 04, 2014, 01:34:51 PM meanwhile the gentleman in question is carring on with business; https://btcjam.com/listings/9836 (he did get a loan beforehand thought; https://btcjam.com/listings/9723). Nice find. Thanks for your detective work. From his information on btcjam he my well have connections to the Givat Olga neighborhood, Hadera, Israel. and email shonroza@gmail.com Quote Hello my friend! I can get this person ,i have located his home location in Hadera ,Givat Olga ,Kadima 1 Also i'm living in Israel .. Tomorrow im visiting some family in Givat Olga .. i can come and visit him Smiley How much does he owns you ? and will you pay me 50% for this? Merry x-mas! Received this PM shortly after making this thread way back when. I assumed it was the same guy trying to squeeze more BTC out of the situation. Title: Re: Potential scammer Post by: Colin Miner on February 04, 2014, 01:59:40 PM Received this PM shortly after making this thread way back when. I assumed it was the same guy trying to squeeze more BTC out of the situation. Which account sent you the PM? Title: Re: Potential scammer Post by: WorldWideBTC on February 05, 2014, 10:03:00 AM Received this PM shortly after making this thread way back when. I assumed it was the same guy trying to squeeze more BTC out of the situation. Which account sent you the PM? Yeah that might be useful info, eh? My bad. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=205367 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=205367) TheMaze Has legit feedback from several people, but I don't know. Received a PM with the offer on Dec 31st, so my paranoia was still on. Title: Re: Potential scammer Post by: VtechX on February 06, 2014, 10:35:22 PM Hello guys. I found Yarin Groiser on BTCJam and your information has been helpful in tracking him down. Appreciate the help - I will be keeping tabs on this thread, and will most likely contribute the efforts of my own research by the weekend. I fully support your actions to get to the bottom of this.
Title: Re: Potential scammer Post by: Tomatocage on February 06, 2014, 10:39:48 PM Hello guys. I found Yarin Groiser on BTCJam and your information has been helpful in tracking him down. Appreciate the help - I will be keeping tabs on this thread, and will most likely contribute the efforts of my own research by the weekend. I fully support your actions to get to the bottom of this. Edit: Nevermind. Please post whatever you find. Title: Re: Potential scammer Post by: Colin Miner on February 07, 2014, 10:30:31 PM Received this PM shortly after making this thread way back when. I assumed it was the same guy trying to squeeze more BTC out of the situation. Which account sent you the PM? Yeah that might be useful info, eh? My bad. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=205367 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=205367) TheMaze Has legit feedback from several people, but I don't know. Received a PM with the offer on Dec 31st, so my paranoia was still on. thanks, all that info builds the bigger picture. Don't be swayed by good feedback linked to a bad feedback account. Paranoia is good :) TheMaze is linked to BTCMAZE.COM and pako@btcmaze.com or pako[at]btcmaze.com unless themaze is trying to taint btcmaze.com or they fell out with each other? SCAM WEBSITE DO NOT PLAY ON THIS WEBSITE On a different note, I appreciate the anonymous BTC tip, thank you to whoever its due ;D Title: Re: Potential scammer Post by: VtechX on February 10, 2014, 04:28:53 PM Ok guys, to start this one off... ;)
872 friends: https://www.facebook.com/Yarin.Groiser?fref=browse_search He had 822 when he made this account a couple weeks ago: https://btcjam.com/users/11344 Title: Re: Potential scammer Post by: pissedatbitlaunder on February 10, 2014, 05:43:15 PM Great way to for everyone to come together to help. I like to see the community doing this.
Please take a look at bitlaunder.com. Similar type issue as far as scamming goes. Same ole story. Offers a service then you never see your coins again and wont answer emails, support tickets, etc. Checkout out my post about it and the updates here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=453671.0. Any help is appreciated. He also has a username on this site: moriartybitcoin but hasn't been on since 2/6 email is moriarty.bitcoin@gmail.com Title: Re: Potential scammer Post by: VtechX on February 10, 2014, 07:36:30 PM Yeah, that's fishy all-around. Just the look of the site has red lights going off in my head.
Anyway... Back to Yarin... Some more mugshots of our scammer: http://www.iphoneogram.com/u/37691663 Title: Re: Potential scammer Post by: VtechX on February 10, 2014, 07:54:29 PM Youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBDKdpYZ_p_wPtnTp_t94og/about Google+: https://plus.google.com/111717112292229283261/posts Zamblek: http://www.zamblek.com/sngine/Yarin.Groiser/info Address: groiser, yarin hadera kadima 1, 65464565 Israel +47.65645654 And a picture/map of his neighborhood: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Kadima+1/@32.4335317,34.8820311,483m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x151d1321bc7a97fb:0xecf6cedd5544acc8 (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Kadima+1/@32.4335317,34.8820311,483m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x151d1321bc7a97fb:0xecf6cedd5544acc8) BTC Title: Re: Potential scammer Post by: WorldWideBTC on February 11, 2014, 05:04:17 AM I never thought this thread would get so much attention. I'm glad my random encounter with this guy turned into something that might help other people from getting hit. That's the point of this section of the forums, after all.
Thanks to whoever sent a tip my way - I spent 20 minutes trying to figure out what the hell it was for. :) Title: Re: Potential scammer Post by: Colin Miner on February 14, 2014, 05:02:05 PM TheMaze is linked to BTCMAZE.COM and pako@btcmaze.com or pako[at]btcmaze.com unless themaze is trying to taint btcmaze.com or they fell out with each other? SCAM WEBSITE DO NOT PLAY ON THIS WEBSITE Domain Name: BTCMAZE.COM Registry Domain ID: 1840606722_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.enom.com Registrar URL: www.enom.com Creation Date: 2013-12-28 05:33:00Z Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2014-12-28 05:33:00Z Registrar: ENOM, INC. Registrar IANA ID: 48 Registrar Abuse Contact Email: email@enom.com Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.4252744500 Reseller: NAMECHEAP.COM Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited Registry Registrant ID: Registrant Name: WHOISGUARD PROTECTED Registrant Organization: WHOISGUARD, INC. Registrant Street: P.O. BOX 0823-03411 Registrant City: PANAMA Registrant State/Province: PANAMA Registrant Postal Code: NA Registrant Country: PA Registrant Phone: +507.8365503 Registrant Phone Ext: Registrant Fax: +51.17057182 Registrant Fax Ext: Registrant Email: email@WHOISGUARD.COM Registry Admin ID: Admin Name: WHOISGUARD PROTECTED Admin Organization: WHOISGUARD, INC. Admin Street: P.O. BOX 0823-03411 Admin City: PANAMA Admin State/Province: PANAMA Admin Postal Code: NA Admin Country: PA Admin Phone: +507.8365503 Admin Phone Ext: Admin Fax: +51.17057182 Admin Fax Ext: Admin Email: email@WHOISGUARD.COM Registry Tech ID: Tech Name: WHOISGUARD PROTECTED Tech Organization: WHOISGUARD, INC. Tech Street: P.O. BOX 0823-03411 Tech City: PANAMA Tech State/Province: PANAMA Tech Postal Code: NA Tech Country: PA Tech Phone: +507.8365503 Tech Phone Ext: Tech Fax: +51.17057182 Tech Fax Ext: Tech Email: email@WHOISGUARD.COM Name Server: DNS1.NAMECHEAPHOSTING.COM Name Server: DNS2.NAMECHEAPHOSTING.COM DNSSEC: unSigned URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System: http://wdprs.internic.net/ Last update of WHOIS database: 2013-12-27 21:33:04Z BTCMAZE has a link with Yarin Groiser, and see btcmaze is hiding its true registrant, which is a bit suspicious. I would avoid btcmaze if you value your btc. Title: Re: Potential scammer Post by: campycoin on July 13, 2014, 01:02:37 PM Great way to for everyone to come together to help. I like to see the community doing this. Please take a look at bitlaunder.com. Similar type issue as far as scamming goes. Same ole story. Offers a service then you never see your coins again and wont answer emails, support tickets, etc. Checkout out my post about it and the updates here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=453671.0. Any help is appreciated. He also has a username on this site: moriartybitcoin but hasn't been on since 2/6 email is moriarty.bitcoin@gmail.com Contact me! What did he steal from you? Checkout http://antilyze.com Moriarty is a fake. He's a fraud. He's a scam. And a thief. He stole $80,000 from someone and is a pathetic scam artist. He uses a fake name and declares a fake PhD. Here is the network of scam sites that I'd avoid. If you are into handouts, please send bitcoin to 1C9rewdqraMuhRrL8RL4bkw5rkSCHdNawt Michael has plenty with his $80,000 theft from last week. My personal favorite is the first one. bitscams.org bitwebhosting.com elaunder.com bitbuzzer.com btwager.com btcstakes.com bitflippa.com bitzam.com bitbrowse.com bitwant.com bithyip.com paidbitcoin.com duocoin.com bitarmored.com coinchill.com coinchimp.com bitbiddy.com walletpays.com vcbtc.com smoochbay.com fairbitcoindice.com bitplastic.com hotbitcoins.com bitforum.org bitlisting.com bitspeculate.com bit007.com hotbitcoins.com thebitcoinescrow.com bitlaunder.com bitfiverr.com bitsecurity.com bitmeetup.com bitsweeps.com paidbitcoin.com bitbing.com Hey Mike, or Scammy Steve or whatever your fake name is.... I'll never go away... Pay back the $80,000 or eventually you'll go down! Difference between me and you bedsides the fact that you're a piece of shit.... IS THAT TRUTH ALWAYS WINS Title: Re: Potential scammer Post by: ponzigo on July 29, 2014, 07:21:31 PM He strikes back with another scam claiming first to have a 1 btc max bet, then 10, then 20.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=713053.0 Be careful folks he stole me 0.01. Title: Re: Potential scammer Post by: Tomatocage on July 30, 2014, 10:13:15 PM He strikes back with another scam claiming first to have a 1 btc max bet, then 10, then 20. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=713053.0 Be careful folks he stole me 0.01. How is JayzMike connected (or the same person as) Yarin Grosier? |
