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This was a beta thread for closed beta tests of www.clevermining.com (http://www.clevermining.com) auto-switch mining pool.

Long story short: I underpromised and overdelivered, promising to pay guaranteed 120% Litecoin profitability but surprising beta users and actually paying more.

The pool is now open to everyone. Please refer to the webpage (http://www.clevermining.com) or to the current thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=448649).

Original post for reference:

I have 630khash/second i can point towards your pool. Can start right now if you want.

Great. I just sent you access details over PM.

I am willing to try it.

I get 140 kh/s with my baby rig and willing to point it to you. how much per day would i make?

How much hashing power you after??  I can point 75MH your way anytime you are ready.

Mining has begun :)

I sent both of you access details. Looking forward for that 75 MH/s! More hashpower is welcome for anyone who'd like to try. At this point results are very promising!

First payouts have been sent for until yesterday (1st Jan) inclusive (I'm using UTC time). They all include +20% premium over LTC profitability as agreed. If I ever decide to offer bigger premium, all beta users will receive additional top up payments for their beta hashing since the start to match that new offer.

Payouts for 2013-12-31: https://blockchain.info/tx/f06b607d053c9caed405c1acba3f1181263cf94958a46a0ed073f5c11b299409
Payouts for 2014-01-01: https://blockchain.info/tx/50c8b1ef8b363bbb64226323b74dc6b93cfbe9e54a77f1d3fedebfd959b844b4
Litecoin payout for 2013-12-39 to 2014-01-01: http://block-explorer.com/tx/15dc5402edf8e3849af512bb9dec30c57d862267170f35607069547e6c7f5b19

Amounts are tiny because I only have couple of MH/s running in this pool. Everything is working great and I'd love to join much more hashpower to be able to mine altcoins with more difficulty and to reduce variance. The sooner I can get more hashpower the sooner I can verify my predictions and offer a final, better premium than +20%. Please spread the word and help me get more hashpower quicker. Thanks! :)

Also: there are more details on your stats pages with daily breakdown of average MH/s accepted and rejected and how much you have earned. This is still quick and simple, but I hope it's enough for now. I'm more focused on under-the-hood things than on the website.

For anyone who hasn't joined yet but is interested what kind of stats are available, there's a quick screenshot below. You can also see what BTC/day per 1 MH/s is earned by my users. It depends on LTC/BTC price, but in general is a stable 0.0127-0.0129 BTC. I believe that after-beta I will be able to offer better premium than the current +20%, but I really need to test with much more hashpower than I have now to be able to commit to higher level of premium.

Thank you all for joining this pool and new members are very welcome!

https://i.imgur.com/om5TMU4.jpg

Payouts for 2014-01-02 (UTC) sent:

https://blockchain.info/tx/7005a348fefc1b747102f76abc482440bab465637946ed2b4704748e35949ce4
http://block-explorer.com/tx/e8c9634ed2cc5907842be4b752c7718b4242446ae89a2ca84f75628be86eea5b

Still need more hashpower.

I have 500 khash I can start right now :P

I have about 75 khashs, send me a PM if you'd like. :)

Hi,

I have 75 Mhash, and looking to mine in a pool more profitable than ltc let me know the details!

Thanks

75 mh/s how many ltc does that get you in a day?

Sent new access details.

According to litecoinminingcalculator.com, 23.61 LTC every day ($571.39). :P

Payouts for 2014-01-03 (UTC) sent:

https://blockchain.info/tx/0764e5c84d0156ed17edefb24acaecd1c7bea6b8e561c160a7fdf98b6180443e
http://block-explorer.com/tx/e5f2b16a8cbe782aaa78aa2af6df35e3da6fd7b5971398d9035ecff028bc7f69

2250 KH/s if you'd like it send PM....

I have 2850 KH/s, please PM. thanks.

Payouts for 2014-01-04 (UTC) sent:

https://blockchain.info/tx/c6de93c6b21f3f08a29351beeef13fca8e88bbd9ab3c0c079dd113add8c14c91
http://block-explorer.com/tx/77f414080c59db4c41b01da4aa7ae677f1dbbae263ea1f06ca02aa6723062285

New access details sent before (didn't reply here to don't bump this thread too often).

Payouts for 2014-01-05 (UTC) has been sent:

https://blockchain.info/tx/78c6bbe5a02e44c1a2277c572adb919a297e4a3b6c7752d27ce84c6a684a4ce5
http://explorer.litecoin.net/tx/32b3eb05112c5588e95e60f16c4ef67a383d0d4e0941ac7ab6b9423d2be5e4bf

I have 640khs if still looking for more.

Im sending 30.000 Kh/s to Terk's pool for more than 48 hours.

I got his payment quick and without issues. Im sure his pool will be a big one when the beta process finished!

Thanks!

Thanks shacky for both your hashpower and for feedback sent over PM! And for the trust when you put 30.000 kH/s three days ago as I showed out of nowhere and announced my offer! I'm glad you're happy with the pool. :)

Hi Terk!.

I have 18Mh/s of scrypt that I would like to send to your pool.

Can I Join?

cheers!

Hi Pt0x. Access details sent over PM.

To everyone: this beta period is coming to an end and I believe I will be launching the pool within 48 hours. I'll let you all know couple of hours in advance. The end of beta will mean end of current offer with guaranteed profitability. The post-beta model will be just me taking a fee of what the pool earns and user payouts will simply be based on the pool results, without profitability guaranties. The good news is that you should earn more then, as the pool has been earning more than 120% during the beta period. I'll keep you updated!

lol I have about 80 kh/s of scrypt, can I still try this?

i can earned about 0.012+ btc on average via 750KH rig within 24hrs through a special altcoin switching pool, im thinking you are applying a similar method i see  ;D

Payout for 2014-01-06 (UTC) sent:

https://blockchain.info/tx/6e0fd8c1b0f059a9fbab7407085252955ab5efb388e984ea37b15537a1e75c6f
http://explorer.litecoin.net/tx/128e56fafdfc97ce616ffa890eec95822aca45f3937cab3d1fda1d9471bd7212

Payout for 2014-01-07 (UTC) sent:

https://blockchain.info/tx/d24f19dd5a270cb1d21085c6816b81508ff15a078b84d25e54a5e2830784a813
http://explorer.litecoin.net/tx/33e1fc03166632e91e661d519b374da6c9b08c796ac7750b7a664e90093c7315

Can you tell us more details about your altcoin pool switching software?

It's 100% custom and written by me. It doesn't use coinwarz or coinchoose or anything similar. I believe it will provide better profits than any other altcoin switching pool.

Today I received my second payment using this pool, nice results so far.

Thanks Terk! Keep up the good work!!.

This is simply awesome, with only 80 khash/s I have already earned about 0.0002, and that wasn't even mining all day.

Payout for 2014-01-08 (UTC) sent:

https://blockchain.info/tx/aab38b3f0005cd66c0ff382def554686ccbf911843e9e7d6c7edc33975453e3f
http://explorer.litecoin.net/tx/f539692b228b4c0b1a312e13ae7ef667ebd0abba878563e7853d93fd80a093ec

Are you still looking for rig volunteers? I have 2.5Mh I can forward your way.

I have a puny 280kh/s to add
wouldn't mind a try.

sent you a pm, hoping for a trial run  ::)

I would like to say, this pool is quite good. By the way, I would like too add an option for us to set the difficulty.

Payout for 2014-01-09 (UTC) sent:

https://blockchain.info/tx/b90a067e375548b813e3c1527c6177199c09ab497f669d0dab27b78bc95840cb

For everyone wanting to join: sorry, this beta is closed now. I am just a day or two before finishing this software and I don't want to add new users at this moment. Please be patient and I welcome you very much as soon as the pool launches. I'll let you know!


I don't think that there's a need for such a feature since the pool supports vardiff. It means that it adjusts difficulty based on your hashing power and tries to setup difficulty for each miner so that it submits on average four shares per minute (in the range of 16-512).

615kh  I'm your huckleberry

edit :(

I know that, but just so you know, i have a crappy GPU, and it eventually sets me to 16, but sometimes it just fails and sets me to 256 and i barely get any shares.

256 is the initial difficulty after I restart the pool application (happens couple times a day). You should get to your destination difficulty within 10-15 minutes after reconnecting.

But you don't need to worry, as 256-difficulty share is worth 16x more than 16-difficutly share. So you earn the same from 1x 256-difficulty share and from 16x 16-difficulty shares. In the end, you always earns the same for your hashpower. You don't lose anything because of this.

Oh alright. By the way, can you give us a list of the altcoins you switch to?

They are the most profitable coins of course ;-)

Lol... Im having stratum disconnect problems right now, and by the way, i found 3 blocks, and earned next to nothing from them :p

EDIT: Your pool is completely down right now, except for web interface.

Update: Pool is back up.

As I wrote before, this is work in progress. There was a downtime between 15:54 and 15:58 (UTC). Sorry for that. Thanks for reporting this, I'll investigate logs to check what might cause this.


Not sure if you understand how the pool works.

First, I don't think you are notified that you found a block. You only solve shares (which are at much lower difficulty than actual blocks that being mined) and what you are notified is that you sent a share and it was accepted. Usually there are thousands of shares from several miners before a block is found.

Second, you're always paid according to the shares that you've submited. This is how a pool works - several miners try to solve a block collectively and then the payout is shared between users based on amount of work that they contributed (number of shares * individual share difficulty).

Hmmm according to CGMiner, I got a share that had a difficulty higher than the network difficulty, which translates to a block being solved.
I assumed your pool was simply pointing the hashrate at other altcoin pools.

What value your CGMiner reports as “network difficulty” at this moment?

Usually it keeps changing every few minutes to 10 minutes, right now it reports as 1.06M, but sometimes it can go as low as 5K.

OK, i temporarily switched to another pool, your vardiff isn't working, I have been mining for 20 minutes and I got 1 share, it's too hard for me to get shares on diff 256. All shares with lower difficulty cannot be submitted, so I rather have my diff at 16 or at least 31.

Can you tell me your username so that I could check what was wrong with vardiff?

PMed.

Vardiff works just fine. This is a log of times and difficulty of your shares submitted after you connecter earlier today:


You got initial difficulty 256 as everyone. After submitting only four shares within 20 minutes, you were switched to difficulty 16. Later I needed to restart the pool app so you went back to default 256 and then were switched to 16 again.

Keep in mind that you really don't lose anything while temporarily being on a higher difficulty. You might submit one share per couple of minutes but this share is worth more. With lower difficulty, you have more frequent shares but they're worth less. In both cases you'll earn the same if measured in a longer period. If you plan to mine for only an hour or two, then you should care about low difficulty. If you plan to mine for day/days, then it really doesn't matter. I could setup a fixed 512 with no vardiff and you would still be fine and earn the same during the whole day.

Anyway, vardiff works fine.

Hmmm Well after 20 minutes i switched to another pool, maybe that's why i didn't see the diff change.
I'll point my card at your pool for this night and see how it goes.

Payout for 2014-01-10 (UTC) sent:

https://blockchain.info/tx/5b0875a0ba42c8e4fd5dee1a11553588d7cd89d0c84005f53d2210f7550ca91c

Payout for 2014-01-11 (UTC) sent:

https://blockchain.info/tx/b10af6d8a55651c140f03a012a0273683450fb0c9d462c944b18186846e84dc1

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Thanks for interest. I'm in the middle of transforming payout model to post-beta model and I wouldn't like adding more users at this moment, not before I finish automated payments (I still do them manually). Please be patient a little bit more. I'll send you PM when I'm ready to open for everyone. Thanks!

Payout for 2014-01-12 (UTC) sent:

https://blockchain.info/tx/ef392a63765661edf62e1aa6c865a39c12e1b9c15720ec575b8319829ae12ddd

i have 6.7mh/s and my friend got extra 8mh/s - we both would like to give it a try if possible.

Thanks!

Payout for 2014-01-13 (UTC) sent:

https://blockchain.info/tx/7893f39219221ef02581a753bcee6bfc672751bbae61f460d6275d674348f6bb

Payout for 2014-01-14 (UTC) sent:

https://blockchain.info/tx/d51bdbe9a2e73bb40a2a0442dc9477791b5e18cc8cea96c7d373829ba0ac6376

Thanks again!

Payout for 2014-01-15 (UTC) sent:

https://blockchain.info/tx/4b6741b59df05fa1b7f6ef2380163b9085468f26e0f6ca2b0d93c17f832ff24d

Hi, i have 420 kh/s right now, and 3000 more "wannabe" kh in a little time (waiting for the risers).
I'm looking for a good multipool, didn't see any till now, i'm really interested in your project.

Hi, how much would 1.500 khash made a day?

The rates change every day.

yea, but an estimate?

Average earnings per 1/MHs from 07/01-16/01: 0.00989215888 BTC.

Payout for 2014-01-16 (UTC) sent:

https://blockchain.info/tx/287d8adce4f137741ac3f11970f937087f97542ee171409ce866cf0d08d9172e

Payout for 2014-01-17 (UTC) sent:

https://blockchain.info/tx/b2711d973967281c7b6e61d6b639c21defd180c32c06bcee22fda8a6778e525f

Hmmm pool had quite a lot of downtime yesterday compared to other days, and it is down right now.

It wasn't down at the time you was writing it and I didn't notice downtime yesterday.

This is a minute-by-minute hashrate average from the time you wrote your post (times are UTC). No downtime.

Then I have no idea, CGMiner refused to connect to pool and reported it as "dead".

If you're still looking for people, I'd be interested in pointing 1.7-3.4 Mh/s at it.  Thanks!

This looks like the pool I will be joining. Watching closely for further announcements :)

(and good luck with testing in the meantime!)

Rit.

Payout for 2014-01-18 (UTC) sent:

https://blockchain.info/tx/d41ebd1b95998e925a31589af0cacb9a4584227480b614ecc22f4554405f1ec7

I'll have some news tomorrow about launching the pool for public. Stay tuned!

@bmoconno: Please wait until I launch the pool. It's going to be very soon. I'll write more tomorrow!

Cool!
Also, when pool is officially launched, is it still 120% of LTC profitability?

@byt411: You have your answer below :)

Payout for 2014-01-19 (UTC) sent:

https://blockchain.info/tx/16cb5936542f6029ef76e5fdca0b088e4e9f1e2fb796faaa24b1e88ac3d6b684

Dear beta users,

2014-01-20 will be the last beta day with the fixed 120% LTC profitability payouts, but this isn't a bad news as I believe you will be earning more post-beta. You can (and should :)) still continue mining at my pool and you don't need to change anything - the current address will still work. Post-beta will differ in two significant ways:

You will earn what the pool actually earns minus my fee.

This means no guaranteed minimum profitability, but also means that you can earn more than the current 120%. For example the beta period was more profitable than 120%. This generally means that if this trend continues (and I'm sure it will), you can expect to earn more. I will publish detailed stats about beta period profitability soon.

Payouts will be couple of times per day and as soon as altcoins are exchanged into BTC.

We are mining altcoins which need to mature, then be sent to exchanges, then be exchanged to BTC, then withdrawn from exchanges. It all takes time and this time is different for different altcoins. During the beta I was paying you from my own money without waiting for all of this to complete. Post-beta you will simply get paid when exchanged BTC return from exchanges. For some part of your balance this will mean quicker payments than now (when the pool is mining altcoins that are quick to mature and exchange), for some part of your balance the delay will be longer. The pool website will provide very detailed stats so you will know what's the status.

Bonus payout for my great beta users!

I want to thank you all for participating in this closed beta and for the feedback that you provided. I want to show my gratitude by sending you a bonus payout! As I wrote, the pool actually earned more than offered 120% profitability during beta period (some days were worse, but most days were better) - and the post-beta payout model will be more profitable for users. What I'm going to do is simply to apply post-beta payout model to all beta hashing since 2014-01-04. So you had guaranteed 120% LTC profitability and now you will have your payments top up to the actual profitability that the pool had! This will mean a few percent more over the current 120%.

What's next.

2014-01-20 is the last beta day with current conditions (fixed 120% LTC). Then there will be the last manual and guaranteed payment after the day ends.

2014-01-21 will be paid based on post-beta conditions and will still be invitation-only. During this day automated payments module will be turned on and it will start paying exchanged balance couple of times a day. This is when the bonus payment will be sent - your balance at the start of the day will be equal to your share of what the pool actually earned since 2014-01-04 minus all your past payments since 2014-01-04 and the automated payments module will simply pay your remaining balance. During this day I'm going to test automated payments and I hope to finish the website with detailed stats and reports. You will get access to the new stats webpage as soon as it's ready.

I will also need to make some performance improvements before I let everyone in, but I'm not sure yet how long it will take. It's possible that I do it on 2014-01-21 as well, but it's also possible that I will need one more day.

Depending on the above, the public launch will be on Jan 22nd or 23rd and the pool will stop being invite only then.

Excellent news, can't wait!

Also looking forward to this :)

Great news. I have very good experiences with your pool and am anxious to see what the "real" payout is. What is the percentage fee that you're using?

Keep up the good work and great communication. Will you also be working toward more transparency? (e.g. showing what coin we are mining, total hash speeds, etc)

You've got my full hashing power!

I can't wait. This pool can be described with one word: AWESOME!

I love this pool!!

Want to see it running without BETA period!! :D

I trust my 80.000 KH/s to Terk, He really know what to do to get the best return!!

Thanks

Well, you will earn a ton of BTC. Read your PM.

How can I join this pool?

I must say that this pool rocks!!, so far my 18000KHs have worked great so far. I can´t wait to see the post beta version!

Great Work Terk!!

Pt0x

You must wait for official launch now. Read PM for full details!

Don't even talk about your hashpower, me trying with 100KHs is already awesome!

Thank you guys! I'm really happy that you're happy with the pool :)

Payout for 2014-01-20 (UTC) sent:

https://blockchain.info/tx/c4c9ffc0651065b7c909e5d21364ea82435241dbefe3a0ed76b0d5e177c51656

This was the last manual payout and tomorrow new automated payouts will start running, along with the new payout model.

The beta website with your stats and earnings won't show earnings for 2014-01-21 and further, as they are not paid using fixed 120% LTC rate. You will still see your current hashrate on the current beta website to make sure that everything works well, but please wait until tomorrow evening for the new website with new stats and earning reports. I will be finishing it tomorrow and will send it to you as soon as it's ready. I'm sorry for the inconvenience. The new stats will be much more detailed and I believe you will like it! :)

Great work! I'm sure this will become an awesome pool, and I will continue mining at your pool!

Is the beta closed for trying the pool out now?

@Musent: beta is closed now. I hope launching to the public on Friday.

To all beta users: please check your stats page for links to new website and new stats. Please read the info on your beta stats page.

This is still work in progress and not all stats are available, but you can see actual profitability. Some highlights:

2014-01-21 was our best day ever. We had 360% of Litecoin profitability so you earned 0.026108 BTC per 1 MH/s today
(compared to 0.007246 BTC which mining LTC would earn). Yay!

Overall profitability since 2014-01-04 is 146%. I paid you 13.94 BTC in total for the beta period based on 120% Litecoin profitability fixed fee, but the pool actually earned 15.52 BTC during that time. The 1.58 BTC difference is your bonus payment and it will be sent as soon as the automated payment is running (I am still troubleshooting some accounting issues and haven't turned it on yet, sorry; I'll have it running tomorrow).

All the final tiny details are taking so much time and sometimes causing unexpected problems and this is the reason I'm a bit late in development compared to what I hoped. There is going to be a serious money involved and I want to have everything tested in and out before I deploy to production server. The current roadmap is more stats/reports and automated payouts done on 2014-01-22. Performance tuning on 23rd and launch on 24th. Keep your fingers crossed!

In the meantime let me know what do you think about profitability and about the stats. Thanks!

if i want to continu mining, as this is not clear to me now, do i still need to use my BTC address as username?

Yes, nothing changes here. You still use your bitcoin address as username and the pool address is still the same.

Awesome! Right now its still running at 297%!

Might I add, our best hour was 21/01/2014 at 21hrs, we had 1060% of LTC profitability.

Just wanted to let you know that per-user stats are ready. They will be improved in the future but for now I think it's enough. The address is new-website/users/your-username. You also have a link on beta-stats page.

I'm finishing testing automated payouts and they will start running on Thursday. We're very close to public launch now!

Nice job !

Total Expected   0.13098332 BTC

OMG! Is this from the 21st, and the bonus payouts since joining? (11 days of mining since Jan. 7th). If so, this pool absolutely is even more awesome and if you keep it up I will stick with you for evar! ;)

whats your hash power?

LOL i have a -0.0005 ready to payout balance???


He has 2.8 MH/s

I think more like 2.3 MH/s based on 24-hour average. 2.8 MH/s was an 1-hour value and you need to remember that hashrate measured by any pool is only an estimate which is vulnerable to temporary luck/unluck in solving shares.

Of course, it can't be exact.
Terk, can you tell us why "ready for payout" balances are negative?

This is a temporary thing because of automated payouts not working yet and the data about BTC withdrawn from exchanges is out of sync (because I don't withdraw them to the pool automated wallet yet, but to my own wallet on my computer). Until 20th Jan I was paying from my own money without waiting for coins to be exchanged, so the negative balance in “ready to pay” means “there were paid more than were withdrawn from exchanges”, which was correct on 20th Jan. The pool currently doesn't know how many BTC were withdrawn from exchanges after 20th.

So the negative balance is because I paid you more than was withdrawn from exchanges as of Jan 20th and the data of withdrawn coins wasn't synced after that. In reality, most of the unexchanged balance is already exchanged so it should be in ready for payout category.

The total balance is correct though. The difference is only some coins should be in different categories.

I'm just starting automated payouts so balances in particular categories will get sync soon.

A quick update: automated payouts are already running and all current balance has been paid out. There will be ongoing payouts couple of times per day from now on for all “ready to pay” balances of minimum 0.01 BTC.

Uhhhh... So now minimum payout is 0.01BTC?

Very nice!
Been switching a lot lately, but thi is much better !

It's 0.01 BTC for ongoing payouts that happen during the day (multiple times per day). There is no sense to lower this threshold and send 0.002 BTC every couple of hours to the same user.

I will add one daily payout for users with minimum 0.001 BTC balance, so there will be 0.01 BTC minimum for ongoing payouts during the day and 0.001 BTC minimum for once-a-day payout.

That's OK. It's because some users like me, have a crappy hashrate, and dont earn that much.

If you're willing to pay that 120% in BTC to me,I'll do it.My PC gives 400-460 KHash/s for scrypt mining. :)

Wait for official launch, pool is closed for now. And it's no longer 120%.

How can I join? Expecting to receive a 4400 KH/s miner this week.

Don't want to spoil but...
You have 2.4MH/s as I read above and u made 0.13098332 BTC in 11 days?! That means 0,004924BTC/MH/s, seems very low to me...

No, he earned this on Jan 21st, half of 22nd and from a bonus payout for previous 10 days. He already was paid for these 10 days the amount that we agreed at the beginning (120% of LTC profitability) but then I added additional payout for the past days based on actual pool profitability. So the 0.13098332 BTC was for 2 days + additional/unexpected bonus for previous 10 days (above what was paid for these 10 days).

Let me show you a screenshot from the stats website for the last week. The BTC per 1 MH/s column is the most interesting one.

https://i.imgur.com/vTUQhwC.png

21st was our best day ever with 0.026726 BTC/MHs/day, but whole week is good in general.

Keep in mind: these are results while still leaving some money on the table as we're too small for some more difficult coins. So for example I have entirely manually disabled Dogecoin (and some other coins) which sometimes becomes the the right choice to mine. But you can't mine them with 100 MH/s. I will turn these more difficult coins back when I launch for public and gather bigger hashrate. Right now we just knowingly ignore some profitable coins for the sake of stability.

I'm launching the pool to public after the weekend and your are more than welcome to join then!

So does this mean that once we get a better hashrate when pool is launched, profit will probably go up?

You can't really predict anything with altcoins so it's hard to compare tomorrow to yesterday. But considering the same moments in time: if we had bigger overall hashrate today/yesterday, our profits would have been bigger. The same goes for the future - we would have better profits with bigger hashrate than with smaller hashrate. At least up to some point (I guess with 10,000 MH/s you're too big for some smaller coins that give us some profits now).

Just watch out that the hashrate doesnt get to high, see middlecoin, they payouts are getting less with a to high hashrate.

Well today we are having an awful day, look at the 24hr stats.

What's wrong with 165% Litecoin profitability and 0.01434 BTC/day per MH/s?! Haven't I spoiled you a bit recently? ;)

Or are you refering to last three hours which were below LTC profitability? That's normal. We also had hours with 611% LTC, 459% LTC and 379% LTC today. It's variance. Last two hours were rough because we mined some blocks of a semi-difficult coin that were later orphaned and we took a hit. That happens sometimes. Our 24-hour average is still more than great!

Terk,

Whats the authentication type we get when looking at the stats page, htaccess or something else?
I'm trying to build a basic C# app for android (mono for android) to get the stats on my phone, but i keep on getting the 401 error.

It's http basic auth, just for now until the launch.

Don't bother with scraping HTML as it may change a bit. I'll provide the same data in json very soon (and there won't be http auth as well).

Ah cool, can you let me know in advance?
Ill see if i can create an app then, mono is pretty good for it.

We just had a very good day with 0.018408 BTC/day per MH/s (213% Litecoin profitability)!

When's this open to the public? I'd like to point my hash at you.  I have 2 M/h with more in the post.

going 250% now!! feels better than middlecoin! :D

Is the website not updating with stats?


nm it just took a while to update

I would like to join, but where is the pool, on which website? :)

shitload of rejects (90%).
Anything with the pool by any chance?

This is after running for 10 minutes
http://i57.tinypic.com/mw37s0.jpg

I think I broke something when migrating a lot of stuff between servers. Sorry for that. Can you tell me if it's working well now?

Seems a lot better now, no more massive rejects.

Rejects went down, was like 15 min mass reject.
Terk, can we have 2 minutes average hashrate stats?

I don't think 2 minute average makes sense. Hashrate reported by a pool is always only an estimate based on number and difficulty of shares that your miner sent. Even 10-minute average is very random and dependent on the luck factor. 2-minute avg would just jump between 20% and 500% of your real hashrate.

I have a pretty basic android app done which allows me to read the hashrate, immature, unexchaned, ready for payout and total expected.
Anyone else interested in it?

For now its just scraping the website, but as soon as the API is implemented i will point it to that.
Build with Xamarin (mono for android) in C#

Also need to provide proof that you are mining on Terk's pool as it is not open to public yet.

Interested, yes !

Could you pm me your btc add so i can hardcode it, there is no save functionallity yet and its a pain in the ass to type the address every time.
Source will also come available through my own svn repo.

Min android level at the moment is currently 4.0

Btw, screenshot:
https://i.imgur.com/Gh8lar7.jpg

OK, well, how about a 30 min?

Can you please add to the personal stats something like this?

"Last update XX:XX (X minutes ago)"

Agreed, even if not half hour updates, at least we should know when it updated.

I'll add last 10 or 15 minute hashrate report soon.


Yes, I have this on my todo list.

Thanks terk. You are an awesome Pool Admin.

I'm mining now on the pool but the stats doesnt update. Normal ?

They update every hour.

Did this ever go public?

Not yet. Will in the near future.

Terk, why are there hours with 0% LTC profitability?

There was a major blockchain fork of one of coins and we ended on the wrong side of the fork this time, so our blocks became orphaned. Situations like this happen sometimes and are calculated into profitability algorithm.

While we lost some of our hashing time yesterday, we still had a pretty good daily result.

I suppose the pool is now almost ready to launch? Should we switch to the new address? And why do I see new users joining?

I have almost 12% of rejected from EU :(

This is because we've been mining some very fast coin during the last hour with new blocks coming every 1-5 seconds.

Don't worry with the rejects, we only mine such coins if it's profitable. For example: If you mine 200% profitable coin with 10% rejects you still have 0.9*200% = 180%. If you mine 150% profitable coin with 2% rejects you have 0.98*150% = 147%. What would you choose?

Ok, nice to know !

Thanks ;)

I finally launched the pool to the public! www.CleverMining.com (http://www.clevermining.com/) and I invite everyone who has been waiting to join! I'm sorry it took so long.

To all my beta users:

1. Thank you very much again for your trust and for joining the beta!

2. Please change your miners to connect to us.clevermining.com instead of IP address. This isn't urgent, because IP remained the same, but I don't guarantee that it won't change in future, so it's better to change.

3. Please tell all your mining friends about the pool and help spreading the word.

4. If you're happy with the pool, please go to the new thread and leave a feedback, share your experiences with the pool: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=448649 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=448649) - I'd really appreciate!

Thank you!

Great News!!! Congrats!!!

This pool is awesome!

Just a suggestion :
when the miner connected at least its not "User not found",  but something like "connected but no stats yet".

lol. sorry. wrong thread but same topic :D
apologize

The stats are based on accepted shares, so if no shares are accepted yet, it cannot detect a connection.

It's a good idea. I've put in in my ideas/todos list to don't forget it. It's low priority though as I have lot of more urgent todos. Thanks!