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Title: [ANN][WTB] Scrypt hashing power, paying 120% of LTC profitability
Post by: Terk on December 30, 2013, 06:28:11 PM
This was a beta thread for closed beta tests of www.clevermining.com (http://www.clevermining.com) auto-switch mining pool.

Long story short: I underpromised and overdelivered, promising to pay guaranteed 120% Litecoin profitability but surprising beta users and actually paying more.

The pool is now open to everyone. Please refer to the webpage (http://www.clevermining.com) or to the current thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=448649).

Original post for reference:

I am developing custom altcoin-switching pool software and would like to rent some scrypt hashing power for short-term beta testing before public launch.

Short version:

During this closed beta period I'm offering guaranteed 120% LTC profitability, that is I'll pay 120% of what your hashing power would earn if you were mining Litecoins - as of this moment it is [deleted old numbers] BTC/day per 1 MH/s comparing to 0.00745 BTC/day per 1 MH/s if you were mining Litecoin at 0% fee pool. Reply or PM me with your hashrate and I'll send you the pool address (VARDIFF, BTC address as username).

More details:

You will be paid based on accepted shares and earnings will be calculated based on current conditions (Litecoin difficulty and LTC/BTC price). Payouts are daily with no minimum balance required for payout.

I don't publish the pool address because I need to limit hashrate of this beta test to be sure that I'll be able to pay 120% LTC profitability from my own funds even if it won't earn me that much. I want to increase hashrate gradually while monitoring the pool so I will be providing access on a first-come first-serve basis with possible delays between people starting mining. Rigs of all sizes are welcomed.

This is my offer for the beta testing period which is limited in time. As of now, you will have access to some very basic but nearly real-time stats (https://i.imgur.com/hfJ2wIj.png) to check what hashrate is detected by the pool. More detailed stats with hourly breakdowns and actual BTC earnings are coming very soon.

This is a beta test so even while I think that uptime will be 100%, I don't guarantee it. You are advised to setup a backup pool in your miner to don't lose hashing time in case of any problems.

If you are interested, please reply or PM telling me your hashrate and when you could start mining. If you have any questions or suggestions, please feel free to share.

(edit: updated current rates basing on new LTC difficulty and LTC/BTC prices)


Title: Re: [ANN][WTB] Scrypt hashing power, paying 120% of LTC profitability
Post by: Kenshin on December 30, 2013, 06:45:12 PM
I got 3060 KH/s will you be interested?


Title: Re: [ANN][WTB] Scrypt hashing power, paying 120% of LTC profitability
Post by: player01 on December 30, 2013, 06:48:57 PM
63 KH if you are interested can mine as soon as possible


Title: Re: [ANN][WTB] Scrypt hashing power, paying 120% of LTC profitability
Post by: Terk on December 30, 2013, 08:06:26 PM
First person mining for almost an hour now. Ready for more miners.


Title: Re: [ANN][WTB] Scrypt hashing power, paying 120% of LTC profitability
Post by: player01 on December 31, 2013, 03:40:09 AM
Been mining for a few hours. Looks good so far.

Will wait to see some stats such as blocks found expected payout, total pool power etc.


Title: Re: [ANN][WTB] Scrypt hashing power, paying 120% of LTC profitability
Post by: Terk on December 31, 2013, 12:10:27 PM
Been mining for a few hours. Looks good so far.

Will wait to see some stats such as blocks found expected payout, total pool power etc.

Right now you can see your hashrate to control how it's hashing. I'll work on more detailed stats tomorrow evening. It's New Year's eve and today I'm only lurking to see if everything is working good. Looking good so far.

Already have couple people mining at this pool and everything seems to work fine. Financial results are also very promising. More hashrate is welcome at this point!


Title: Re: [ANN][WTB] Scrypt hashing power, paying 120% of LTC profitability
Post by: hipstacoin on December 31, 2013, 12:43:31 PM
Sure, I'd like to try your pool. I've got ~2800 kHash to offer. I've sent you a PM.


Title: Re: [ANN][WTB] Scrypt hashing power, paying 120% of LTC profitability
Post by: Terk on December 31, 2013, 01:16:47 PM
Another access details sent. Everything looking good so far. Ready for more miners :)


Title: Re: [ANN][WTB] Scrypt hashing power, paying 120% of LTC profitability
Post by: hipstacoin on December 31, 2013, 03:27:44 PM
I'm mining now, haven't seen payouts yet ;) but Terk's a nice guy and the stats look professional. Could use a bit more transparency and information tho, but hey, we're in beta, so I"m not complaining.


Title: Re: [ANN][WTB] Scrypt hashing power, paying 120% of LTC profitability
Post by: proinside on December 31, 2013, 03:32:44 PM
So.. a bit more information? Would have around 700-7500 khash/s in 2 days spare and 3-4 days later double the amount.


Title: Re: [ANN][WTB] Scrypt hashing power, paying 120% of LTC profitability
Post by: Zombie123 on December 31, 2013, 03:36:25 PM
I might send some hashing power in a couple of days. When will you end the beta.


Title: Re: [ANN][WTB] Scrypt hashing power, paying 120% of LTC profitability
Post by: gross on December 31, 2013, 03:42:24 PM
100M with 170% of LTC profitability,pm me if you interested


Title: Re: [ANN][WTB] Scrypt hashing power, paying 120% of LTC profitability
Post by: Terk on December 31, 2013, 04:00:56 PM
I'm mining now, haven't seen payouts yet ;) but Terk's a nice guy and the stats look professional. Could use a bit more transparency and information tho, but hey, we're in beta, so I"m not complaining.

I'm still doing payouts semi-manually so as I wrote in the first post, they will start tomorrow. There's not much to payout after couple of hours anyway.

I'll also add more detailed stats and reporting tomorrow / the day after.

So.. a bit more information? Would have around 700-7500 khash/s in 2 days spare and 3-4 days later double the amount.

Great! Just let me know when you're ready and I'll send you the pool address.

I might send some hashing power in a couple of days. When will you end the beta.

I don't know when. I need some more hashpower than I have now. The after-beta will basically differ mostly by some more complete website with more stats and probably different premium over LTC profitability. I need some time+hashpower to figure out a reasonable level - basically to check how far from real are profits that my software predicts.

I think that the after-beta offer will be better than +20% and if it will be then I will match this final offer to all previous miners, so I'll pay additional premium for past days just as if the premium was at the same level from the beginning. Beta miners won't get worse offer than the final offer for sure (I think I'll even throw some bonus to beta miners as a thank you).

100M with 170% of LTC profitability,pm me if you interested

Can't commit to that level of premium yet. I need a bit more time+hashpower to verify my calculations. I am sure that after-beta I will offer more than 120% (and I will top up beta testers payouts to match that final offer, so nobody should hesitate to start mining now), but I don't think it will be as high as 170%. If you take average profits of HashCows or Middlecoin over 30 days you will find that their average profitability is much, much lower than this. I believe I can offer better profitability than theirs (averaged over 30 days), but can't decide about the final offer just yet. I'll let you know when I have something better to offer than the current 120%.


Title: Re: [ANN][WTB] Scrypt hashing power, paying 120% of LTC profitability
Post by: _4Char on December 31, 2013, 04:22:14 PM
I've got 200kh/s free atm and 735kh/s if needed.  ;)


Title: Re: [ANN][WTB] Scrypt hashing power, paying 120% of LTC profitability
Post by: Terk on December 31, 2013, 04:27:00 PM
Just sent you PM.


Title: Re: [ANN][WTB] Scrypt hashing power, paying 120% of LTC profitability
Post by: mikeybit on December 31, 2013, 04:39:44 PM
I can spare 1-3 mh/s


Title: Re: [ANN][WTB] Scrypt hashing power, paying 120% of LTC profitability
Post by: dE_logics on January 01, 2014, 04:57:29 AM
I've 194KH/s free.


Title: Re: [ANN][WTB] Scrypt hashing power, paying 120% of LTC profitability
Post by: Terk on January 01, 2014, 08:24:29 AM
Sent you both PMs. Happy New Year to everyone!


Title: Re: [ANN][WTB] Scrypt hashing power, paying 120% of LTC profitability
Post by: sjasbury on January 01, 2014, 08:42:23 AM
I can sen some your way also


Title: Re: [ANN][WTB] Scrypt hashing power, paying 120% of LTC profitability
Post by: crazy987 on January 01, 2014, 04:37:24 PM
i have 1400khash ready to go.


Title: Re: [ANN][WTB] Scrypt hashing power, paying 120% of LTC profitability
Post by: Terk on January 01, 2014, 05:36:41 PM
Sent another access details.

From other news: more detailed hourly stats and earning stats as well as the first payout are coming this evening.


Title: Re: [ANN][WTB] Scrypt hashing power, paying 120% of LTC profitability
Post by: Terk on January 02, 2014, 12:51:12 AM
First payouts have been sent for until yesterday (1st Jan) inclusive (I'm using UTC time). They all include +20% premium over LTC profitability as agreed. If I ever decide to offer bigger premium, all beta users will receive additional top up payments for their beta hashing since the start to match that new offer.

Payouts for 2013-12-31: https://blockchain.info/tx/f06b607d053c9caed405c1acba3f1181263cf94958a46a0ed073f5c11b299409
Payouts for 2014-01-01: https://blockchain.info/tx/50c8b1ef8b363bbb64226323b74dc6b93cfbe9e54a77f1d3fedebfd959b844b4
Litecoin payout for 2013-12-39 to 2014-01-01: http://block-explorer.com/tx/15dc5402edf8e3849af512bb9dec30c57d862267170f35607069547e6c7f5b19

Amounts are tiny because I only have couple of MH/s running in this pool. Everything is working great and I'd love to join much more hashpower to be able to mine altcoins with more difficulty and to reduce variance. The sooner I can get more hashpower the sooner I can verify my predictions and offer a final, better premium than +20%. Please spread the word and help me get more hashpower quicker. Thanks! :)

Also: there are more details on your stats pages with daily breakdown of average MH/s accepted and rejected and how much you have earned. This is still quick and simple, but I hope it's enough for now. I'm more focused on under-the-hood things than on the website.

For anyone who hasn't joined yet but is interested what kind of stats are available, there's a quick screenshot below. You can also see what BTC/day per 1 MH/s is earned by my users. It depends on LTC/BTC price, but in general is a stable 0.0127-0.0129 BTC. I believe that after-beta I will be able to offer better premium than the current +20%, but I really need to test with much more hashpower than I have now to be able to commit to higher level of premium.

Thank you all for joining this pool and new members are very welcome!

https://i.imgur.com/om5TMU4.jpg


Title: Re: [ANN][WTB] Scrypt hashing power, paying 120% of LTC profitability
Post by: player01 on January 02, 2014, 02:45:38 AM
Still mining, payouts are looking good so far.  About how long do you figure you will be in beta... Gmail was in beta for ... years, so I thought I would ask.


Title: Re: [ANN][WTB] Scrypt hashing power, paying 120% of LTC profitability
Post by: lolanonlol on January 02, 2014, 03:17:20 AM
sounds good, but too risky to trust anyone.


Title: Re: [ANN][WTB] Scrypt hashing power, paying 120% of LTC profitability
Post by: foodies123 on January 02, 2014, 03:24:26 AM
6mhs, hit me, you got 15 mins before I hit the hay


Title: Re: [ANN][WTB] Scrypt hashing power, paying 120% of LTC profitability
Post by: Terk on January 02, 2014, 11:10:45 AM
Still mining, payouts are looking good so far.  About how long do you figure you will be in beta... Gmail was in beta for ... years, so I thought I would ask.

I'd like to have total hashrate >100 MH/s for 2-3 days before I decide. I also need to optimize some things in the software. Hopefully this won't take longer than a week or two.

Another access details sent and more users are always welcome!


Title: Re: [ANN][WTB] Scrypt hashing power, paying 120% of LTC profitability
Post by: _4Char on January 02, 2014, 07:00:59 PM
sounds good, but too risky to trust anyone.

It is pretty risky, but seeing as he is showing you your profits for each day it should be fine.
If I don't get a payment within 5 days for one of the days, I will stop mining because I wouldn't want to waste any more time..


Title: Re: [ANN][WTB] Scrypt hashing power, paying 120% of LTC profitability
Post by: Terk on January 02, 2014, 07:11:14 PM
sounds good, but too risky to trust anyone.

It is pretty risky, but seeing as he is showing you your profits for each day it should be fine.
If I don't get a payment within 5 days for one of the days, I will stop mining because I wouldn't want to waste any more time..

New stats are showing your hashrate and profits nearly in realtime, so you can control your results.

Payments are already sent for all hashing up to yesterday and today's hashing will be paid tomorrow. Payouts are going to be daily in general, unless there will be some unexpected problems at exchanges causing troubles in converting altcoins to BTC, but even in that case I'll try not to delay for more than 48 hours, e.g. paying from my reserve balance if possible.

I know this service is very new but I try to keep it as transparent as possible so that you always know what's going on. If you have any idea on how to improve service/reporting and make it more trustworthy please let me know!


Title: Re: [ANN][WTB] Scrypt hashing power, paying 120% of LTC profitability
Post by: Terk on January 03, 2014, 01:27:09 AM
Payouts for 2014-01-02 (UTC) sent:

https://blockchain.info/tx/7005a348fefc1b747102f76abc482440bab465637946ed2b4704748e35949ce4
http://block-explorer.com/tx/e8c9634ed2cc5907842be4b752c7718b4242446ae89a2ca84f75628be86eea5b

Still need more hashpower.


Title: Re: [ANN][WTB] Scrypt hashing power, paying 120% of LTC profitability
Post by: Terk on January 04, 2014, 12:52:15 AM
Payouts for 2014-01-03 (UTC) sent:

https://blockchain.info/tx/0764e5c84d0156ed17edefb24acaecd1c7bea6b8e561c160a7fdf98b6180443e
http://block-explorer.com/tx/e5f2b16a8cbe782aaa78aa2af6df35e3da6fd7b5971398d9035ecff028bc7f69


Title: Re: [ANN][WTB] Scrypt hashing power, paying 120% of LTC profitability
Post by: Terk on January 05, 2014, 12:42:40 AM
Payouts for 2014-01-04 (UTC) sent:

https://blockchain.info/tx/c6de93c6b21f3f08a29351beeef13fca8e88bbd9ab3c0c079dd113add8c14c91
http://block-explorer.com/tx/77f414080c59db4c41b01da4aa7ae677f1dbbae263ea1f06ca02aa6723062285


Title: Re: [ANN][WTB] Scrypt hashing power, paying 120% of LTC profitability
Post by: pontiacg5 on January 05, 2014, 12:47:52 AM
I have ~10mh/s I could point your way, will be adding another ~8mh early in the week too.

Pm me with the details if you are interested.


Title: Re: [ANN][WTB] Scrypt hashing power, paying 120% of LTC profitability
Post by: Terk on January 05, 2014, 01:03:54 AM
Sent PM.


Title: Re: [ANN][WTB] Scrypt hashing power, paying 120% of LTC profitability
Post by: Terk on January 06, 2014, 12:44:18 AM
Payouts for 2014-01-05 (UTC) has been sent:

https://blockchain.info/tx/78c6bbe5a02e44c1a2277c572adb919a297e4a3b6c7752d27ce84c6a684a4ce5
http://explorer.litecoin.net/tx/32b3eb05112c5588e95e60f16c4ef67a383d0d4e0941ac7ab6b9423d2be5e4bf


Title: Re: [ANN][WTB] Scrypt hashing power, paying 120% of LTC profitability
Post by: mr.igor on January 06, 2014, 08:44:26 PM
Would like to point my 1700 khs to your pool, pm me the details.


Title: Re: [ANN][WTB] Scrypt hashing power, paying 120% of LTC profitability
Post by: cad_cdn on January 06, 2014, 08:49:54 PM
2 rigs available,
about 800khs and 1.6mhs.


Title: Re: [ANN][WTB] Scrypt hashing power, paying 120% of LTC profitability
Post by: Terk on January 06, 2014, 08:57:23 PM
Sent both of you access details.

BTW, beta period will end very soon (within 24-48 hours).


Title: Re: [ANN][WTB] Scrypt hashing power, paying 120% of LTC profitability
Post by: maqu on January 06, 2014, 09:01:08 PM
Hi, I could point my 800-3000KH/s to this pool also. Please PM me some pool infos.


Title: Re: [ANN][WTB] Scrypt hashing power, paying 120% of LTC profitability
Post by: Symon on January 06, 2014, 09:01:19 PM
Hello, 4MH/s available if needed ;)

PM me !


Title: Re: [ANN][WTB] Scrypt hashing power, paying 120% of LTC profitability
Post by: Terk on January 06, 2014, 09:46:43 PM
Sent new access details.


Title: Re: [ANN][WTB] Scrypt hashing power, paying 120% of LTC profitability
Post by: Terk on January 07, 2014, 12:30:54 AM
Payout for 2014-01-06 (UTC) sent:

https://blockchain.info/tx/6e0fd8c1b0f059a9fbab7407085252955ab5efb388e984ea37b15537a1e75c6f
http://explorer.litecoin.net/tx/128e56fafdfc97ce616ffa890eec95822aca45f3937cab3d1fda1d9471bd7212


Title: Re: [ANN][WTB] Scrypt hashing power, paying 120% of LTC profitability
Post by: Terk on January 08, 2014, 12:32:16 AM
Payout for 2014-01-07 (UTC) sent:

https://blockchain.info/tx/d24f19dd5a270cb1d21085c6816b81508ff15a078b84d25e54a5e2830784a813
http://explorer.litecoin.net/tx/33e1fc03166632e91e661d519b374da6c9b08c796ac7750b7a664e90093c7315


Title: Re: [ANN][WTB] Scrypt hashing power, paying 120% of LTC profitability
Post by: Starman22 on January 08, 2014, 12:39:30 AM
I would be interested. I can start with 1400 kHash.


Title: Re: [ANN][WTB] Scrypt hashing power, paying 120% of LTC profitability
Post by: Maluridea on January 08, 2014, 01:09:17 AM
Would also be interested in sending 2.2Mh your way :)


Title: Re: [ANN][WTB] Scrypt hashing power, paying 120% of LTC profitability
Post by: Terk on January 08, 2014, 01:33:46 AM
Sent access details but remember that the beta will end very soon and the post-beta offer will be different (address and port will remain the same, so if you're happy with the new offer you won't need to change anything).


Title: Re: [ANN][WTB] Scrypt hashing power, paying 120% of LTC profitability
Post by: Terk on January 09, 2014, 12:47:02 AM
Payout for 2014-01-08 (UTC) sent:

https://blockchain.info/tx/aab38b3f0005cd66c0ff382def554686ccbf911843e9e7d6c7edc33975453e3f
http://explorer.litecoin.net/tx/f539692b228b4c0b1a312e13ae7ef667ebd0abba878563e7853d93fd80a093ec


Title: Re: [ANN][WTB] Scrypt hashing power, paying 120% of LTC profitability
Post by: AGOOSTER on January 09, 2014, 01:20:44 AM
have 5300-5600 khs to send your way, thnaks


Title: Re: [ANN][WTB] Scrypt hashing power, paying 120% of LTC profitability
Post by: henriquelb on January 09, 2014, 01:28:30 AM
1800 khs here


Title: Re: [ANN][WTB] Scrypt hashing power, paying 120% of LTC profitability
Post by: sknobs on January 09, 2014, 09:45:15 AM
I have around 5Mh/s right now...just been hammering DOGE with it. Let me know if you are still taking on more power. Thanks.


Title: Re: [ANN][WTB] Scrypt hashing power, paying 120% of LTC profitability
Post by: Terk on January 10, 2014, 12:22:33 AM
Payout for 2014-01-09 (UTC) sent:

https://blockchain.info/tx/b90a067e375548b813e3c1527c6177199c09ab497f669d0dab27b78bc95840cb


Title: Re: [ANN][WTB] Scrypt hashing power, paying 120% of LTC profitability
Post by: Terk on January 10, 2014, 12:23:54 AM
For everyone wanting to join: sorry, this beta is closed now. I am just a day or two before finishing this software and I don't want to add new users at this moment. Please be patient and I welcome you very much as soon as the pool launches. I'll let you know!


Title: Re: [ANN][WTB] Scrypt hashing power, paying 120% of LTC profitability
Post by: Terk on January 11, 2014, 12:27:54 AM
Payout for 2014-01-10 (UTC) sent:

https://blockchain.info/tx/5b0875a0ba42c8e4fd5dee1a11553588d7cd89d0c84005f53d2210f7550ca91c


Title: Re: [ANN][WTB] Scrypt hashing power, paying 120% of LTC profitability
Post by: pontiacg5 on January 11, 2014, 12:40:38 AM
No biggie, but what happened to the 24hr average chart?

Also, are we going to need to pay attention or look out for anything? Will the beta guys just be able to keep on mining through the end of testing?

Thanks for the great pool, looking forward to what you've got in store  ;D





Title: Re: [ANN][WTB] Scrypt hashing power, paying 120% of LTC profitability
Post by: Terk on January 11, 2014, 12:48:58 AM
No biggie, but what happened to the 24hr average chart?

It's temporarily gone, sorry.

Also, are we going to need to pay attention or look out for anything? Will the beta guys just be able to keep on mining through the end of testing?

The address won't change so you can just continue mining! I'll also PM everyone that I sent access details to notify that the beta is closing and there will be a new payout model post-beta.

Thanks for the great pool, looking forward to what you've got in store  ;D

Thanks for joining! I hoped to have the final product ready by now but there's still lot to do under the hood, so there's probably still couple of days before I launch the final pool.


Title: Re: [ANN][WTB] Scrypt hashing power, paying 120% of LTC profitability
Post by: Terk on January 12, 2014, 12:13:45 AM
Payout for 2014-01-11 (UTC) sent:

https://blockchain.info/tx/b10af6d8a55651c140f03a012a0273683450fb0c9d462c944b18186846e84dc1


Title: Re: [ANN][WTB] Scrypt hashing power, paying 120% of LTC profitability
Post by: player01 on January 12, 2014, 03:40:13 AM
I'm back to mining here, had to get over the min. balance for payout on another pool... didn't get the PM with the post Beta stats...


Title: Re: [ANN][WTB] Scrypt hashing power, paying 120% of LTC profitability
Post by: Terk on January 12, 2014, 12:39:53 PM
I'm back to mining here, had to get over the min. balance for payout on another pool... didn't get the PM with the post Beta stats...

I'm still working on the post-beta payout model and stats (and have been working on some backend stuff in the meantime which delayed post-beta accounting). The beta period and offer still stand. Also, all data for post-beta model is collected and calculated since 2014-01-04 and the post-beta stats will include this period as well. I finally finished most of the urgent backend stuff that needed to be taken care of and I'm going to deliver post-beta stats very soon!


Title: Re: [ANN][WTB] Scrypt hashing power, paying 120% of LTC profitability
Post by: Terk on January 13, 2014, 12:41:21 AM
Payout for 2014-01-12 (UTC) sent:

https://blockchain.info/tx/ef392a63765661edf62e1aa6c865a39c12e1b9c15720ec575b8319829ae12ddd


Title: Re: [ANN][WTB] Scrypt hashing power, paying 120% of LTC profitability
Post by: Terk on January 14, 2014, 12:53:52 AM
Payout for 2014-01-13 (UTC) sent:

https://blockchain.info/tx/7893f39219221ef02581a753bcee6bfc672751bbae61f460d6275d674348f6bb


Title: Re: [ANN][WTB] Scrypt hashing power, paying 120% of LTC profitability
Post by: Terk on January 15, 2014, 12:18:30 AM
Payout for 2014-01-14 (UTC) sent:

https://blockchain.info/tx/d51bdbe9a2e73bb40a2a0442dc9477791b5e18cc8cea96c7d373829ba0ac6376


Title: Re: [ANN][WTB] Scrypt hashing power, paying 120% of LTC profitability
Post by: Terk on January 16, 2014, 12:22:10 AM
Payout for 2014-01-15 (UTC) sent:

https://blockchain.info/tx/4b6741b59df05fa1b7f6ef2380163b9085468f26e0f6ca2b0d93c17f832ff24d


Title: Re: [ANN][WTB] Scrypt hashing power, paying 120% of LTC profitability
Post by: Terk on January 17, 2014, 12:27:22 AM
Payout for 2014-01-16 (UTC) sent:

https://blockchain.info/tx/287d8adce4f137741ac3f11970f937087f97542ee171409ce866cf0d08d9172e


Title: Re: [ANN][WTB] Scrypt hashing power, paying 120% of LTC profitability
Post by: Terk on January 18, 2014, 12:55:00 AM
Payout for 2014-01-17 (UTC) sent:

https://blockchain.info/tx/b2711d973967281c7b6e61d6b639c21defd180c32c06bcee22fda8a6778e525f


Title: Re: [ANN][WTB] Scrypt hashing power, paying 120% of LTC profitability
Post by: Terk on January 19, 2014, 12:32:49 AM
Payout for 2014-01-18 (UTC) sent:

https://blockchain.info/tx/d41ebd1b95998e925a31589af0cacb9a4584227480b614ecc22f4554405f1ec7

I'll have some news tomorrow about launching the pool for public. Stay tuned!


Title: Re: [ANN][WTB] Scrypt hashing power, paying 120% of LTC profitability
Post by: Kenshin on January 19, 2014, 03:16:00 AM
Payout for 2014-01-18 (UTC) sent:

https://blockchain.info/tx/d41ebd1b95998e925a31589af0cacb9a4584227480b614ecc22f4554405f1ec7

I'll have some news tomorrow about launching the pool for public. Stay tuned!

Don't do it, keep it VIP only.  8)


Title: Re: [ANN][WTB] Scrypt hashing power, paying 120% of LTC profitability
Post by: _4Char on January 19, 2014, 01:32:24 PM
Payout for 2014-01-18 (UTC) sent:

https://blockchain.info/tx/d41ebd1b95998e925a31589af0cacb9a4584227480b614ecc22f4554405f1ec7

I'll have some news tomorrow about launching the pool for public. Stay tuned!

Don't do it, keep it VIP only.  8)

This ^ 8)


Title: Re: [ANN][WTB] Scrypt hashing power, paying 120% of LTC profitability
Post by: Terk on January 20, 2014, 01:57:53 AM
We're still to small in terms of total hashrate to mine some more difficult coins - there's no sense to keep this pool invitation-only :)

Payout for 2014-01-19 (UTC) sent:

https://blockchain.info/tx/16cb5936542f6029ef76e5fdca0b088e4e9f1e2fb796faaa24b1e88ac3d6b684

Dear beta users,

2014-01-20 will be the last beta day with the fixed 120% LTC profitability payouts, but this isn't a bad news as I believe you will be earning more post-beta. You can (and should :)) still continue mining at my pool and you don't need to change anything - the current address will still work. Post-beta will differ in two significant ways:

You will earn what the pool actually earns minus my fee.

This means no guaranteed minimum profitability, but also means that you can earn more than the current 120%. For example the beta period was more profitable than 120%. This generally means that if this trend continues (and I'm sure it will), you can expect to earn more. I will publish detailed stats about beta period profitability soon.

Payouts will be couple of times per day and as soon as altcoins are exchanged into BTC.

We are mining altcoins which need to mature, then be sent to exchanges, then be exchanged to BTC, then withdrawn from exchanges. It all takes time and this time is different for different altcoins. During the beta I was paying you from my own money without waiting for all of this to complete. Post-beta you will simply get paid when exchanged BTC return from exchanges. For some part of your balance this will mean quicker payments than now (when the pool is mining altcoins that are quick to mature and exchange), for some part of your balance the delay will be longer. The pool website will provide very detailed stats so you will know what's the status.

Bonus payout for my great beta users!

I want to thank you all for participating in this closed beta and for the feedback that you provided. I want to show my gratitude by sending you a bonus payout! As I wrote, the pool actually earned more than offered 120% profitability during beta period (some days were worse, but most days were better) - and the post-beta payout model will be more profitable for users. What I'm going to do is simply to apply post-beta payout model to all beta hashing since 2014-01-04. So you had guaranteed 120% LTC profitability and now you will have your payments top up to the actual profitability that the pool had! This will mean a few percent more over the current 120%.

What's next.

2014-01-20 is the last beta day with current conditions (fixed 120% LTC). Then there will be the last manual and guaranteed payment after the day ends.

2014-01-21 will be paid based on post-beta conditions and will still be invitation-only. During this day automated payments module will be turned on and it will start paying exchanged balance couple of times a day. This is when the bonus payment will be sent - your balance at the start of the day will be equal to your share of what the pool actually earned since 2014-01-04 minus all your past payments since 2014-01-04 and the automated payments module will simply pay your remaining balance. During this day I'm going to test automated payments and I hope to finish the website with detailed stats and reports. You will get access to the new stats webpage as soon as it's ready.

I will also need to make some performance improvements before I let everyone in, but I'm not sure yet how long it will take. It's possible that I do it on 2014-01-21 as well, but it's also possible that I will need one more day.

Depending on the above, the public launch will be on Jan 22nd or 23rd and the pool will stop being invite only then.


Title: Re: [ANN][WTB] Scrypt hashing power, paying 120% of LTC profitability
Post by: player01 on January 20, 2014, 02:07:25 AM
I have to say that my personal income from mining this pool was much greater than middlecoin which I was using previously. I plan on staying here.


Title: Re: [ANN][WTB] Scrypt hashing power, paying 120% of LTC profitability
Post by: Zombie123 on January 20, 2014, 04:42:36 AM
Can anyone disclose Per Mhz/Day in BTC


Title: Re: [ANN][WTB] Scrypt hashing power, paying 120% of LTC profitability
Post by: Terk on January 20, 2014, 12:29:19 PM
Can anyone disclose Per Mhz/Day in BTC

Just wait a bit until I release stats and website for the actual profitability that the pool had. Until now, everyone was paid flat 120% of Litecoin profitability and it doesn't tell much about real profits that will be topped up once the new reports are live.


Title: Re: [ANN][WTB] Scrypt hashing power, paying 120% of LTC profitability
Post by: Terk on January 21, 2014, 01:32:24 AM
Payout for 2014-01-20 (UTC) sent:

https://blockchain.info/tx/c4c9ffc0651065b7c909e5d21364ea82435241dbefe3a0ed76b0d5e177c51656

This was the last manual payout and tomorrow new automated payouts will start running, along with the new payout model.

The beta website with your stats and earnings won't show earnings for 2014-01-21 and further, as they are not paid using fixed 120% LTC rate. You will still see your current hashrate on the current beta website to make sure that everything works well, but please wait until tomorrow evening for the new website with new stats and earning reports. I will be finishing it tomorrow and will send it to you as soon as it's ready. I'm sorry for the inconvenience. The new stats will be much more detailed and I believe you will like it! :)


Title: Re: [ANN][WTB] Scrypt hashing power, paying 120% of LTC profitability
Post by: Terk on January 22, 2014, 02:33:22 AM
Please check your stats page for links to new website and new stats. Please read the info on your beta stats page.

This is still work in progress and not all stats are available, but you can see actual profitability. Some highlights:

2014-01-21 was our best day ever. We had 360% of Litecoin profitability so you earned 0.026108 BTC per 1 MH/s today
(compared to 0.007246 BTC which mining LTC would earn). Yay!

Overall profitability since 2014-01-04 is 146%. I paid you 13.94 BTC in total for the beta period based on 120% Litecoin profitability fixed fee, but the pool actually earned 15.52 BTC during that time. The 1.58 BTC difference is your bonus payment and it will be sent as soon as the automated payment is running (I am still troubleshooting some accounting issues and haven't turned it on yet, sorry; I'll have it running tomorrow).

All the final tiny details are taking so much time and sometimes causing unexpected problems and this is the reason I'm a bit late in development compared to what I hoped. There is going to be a serious money involved and I want to have everything tested in and out before I deploy to production server. The current roadmap is more stats/reports and automated payouts done on 2014-01-22. Performance tuning on 23rd and launch on 24th. Keep your fingers crossed!

In the meantime let me know what do you think about profitability and about the stats. Thanks!


Title: Re: [ANN][WTB] Scrypt hashing power, paying 120% of LTC profitability
Post by: Terk on January 22, 2014, 11:39:58 PM
Just wanted to let you know that per-user stats are ready. They will be improved in the future but for now I think it's enough. The address is new-website/users/your-username. You also have a link on beta-stats page.

I'm finishing testing automated payouts and they will start running on Thursday. We're very close to public launch now!


Title: Re: [ANN][WTB] Scrypt hashing power, paying 120% of LTC profitability
Post by: Terk on January 24, 2014, 01:33:57 AM
A quick update: automated payouts are already running and all current balance has been paid out. There will be ongoing payouts couple of times per day from now on for all “ready to pay” balances of minimum 0.01 BTC.


Title: Re: [ANN][WTB] Scrypt hashing power, paying 120% of LTC profitability
Post by: Terk on February 04, 2014, 02:37:32 PM
I finally launched the pool to the public! www.CleverMining.com (http://www.clevermining.com/) and I invite everyone who has been waiting to join! I'm sorry it took so long.

To all my beta users:

1. Thank you very much again for your trust and for joining the beta!

2. Please change your miners to connect to us.clevermining.com instead of IP address. This isn't urgent, because IP remained the same, but I don't guarantee that it won't change in future, so it's better to change.

3. Please tell all your mining friends about the pool and help spreading the word.

4. If you're happy with the pool, please go to the new thread and leave a feedback, share your experiences with the pool: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=448649 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=448649) - I'd really appreciate!

Thank you!


Title: Re: [ANN][WTB] Scrypt hashing power, paying 120% of LTC profitability
Post by: hipstacoin on February 05, 2014, 07:23:34 AM
Is it me, or is your pool going down today and yesterday a lot of times since public launch? :(


Title: Re: [ANN][WTB] Scrypt hashing power, paying 120% of LTC profitability
Post by: Terk on February 05, 2014, 10:00:45 AM
It has lot of disconnects issues. I'm sorry. I'm working on solving this.