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Title: L Post by: martinver on December 31, 2013, 03:16:03 AM 1
Title: Re: Loan for Reputation #1 10% INT BACK GUARANTEED Post by: btcguy38 on December 31, 2013, 03:38:59 AM How many BTC are you looking to borrow?
I will fund this loan if you supply 120% of the value in LiteCoin as collateral Title: Re: Loan for Reputation #1 10% INT BACK GUARANTEED Post by: Vod on December 31, 2013, 04:17:55 AM Warning: This user has TWO simultaneous loans active at the same time, with unsustainable rates.
Title: Re: Loan for Reputation #1 10% INT BACK GUARANTEED Post by: prezbo on December 31, 2013, 12:32:32 PM I am skeptical (and so should everyone be) of everything that happens to have "guaranteed" in the title (in all caps no less).
Title: Re: Loan for Reputation #1 10% INT BACK GUARANTEED Post by: Vod on December 31, 2013, 08:06:08 PM Well, it appears this loan has passed 70% on BTCJam, but only because of a majority lend by his sockpuppet, ffrogman.
So all martinver can scam right now is 0.1btc. I think we'll see a few more scammy "reputation" loans to increase this amount. Title: Re: Loan for Reputation #1 10% INT BACK GUARANTEED Post by: KWH on December 31, 2013, 08:10:25 PM martinver:
Abuse of the caps lock button. Title: Re: Loan for Reputation #1 10% INT BACK GUARANTEED Post by: Tomatocage on December 31, 2013, 08:18:24 PM Abuse of the trust system by Vod This isn't an abuse of the Trust system when he's 100% correct. You're running the classic BTCJam reputation scam. Title: Re: Loan for Reputation #1 10% INT BACK GUARANTEED Post by: Tomatocage on December 31, 2013, 10:03:35 PM Fair enough. I'll remove my rating once all your rep loans are paid back.
Title: Re: Loan for Reputation #1 10% INT BACK GUARANTEED Post by: Vod on December 31, 2013, 10:11:00 PM I am not tomatocage and I will prove you guys are wrong, not now cuz i barely received the loan but I wont discuss with you guys anymore, time will prove it all, so I will just letting it run and prove I am right, thanks for your concerns. Hey, care to explain why you used your own coins to fund your loan? Just to make it appear to be successful? https://btcjam.com/listings/8920 ffrogman is your alternate account. Title: Re: Loan for Reputation #1 10% INT BACK GUARANTEED Post by: Welsh on December 31, 2013, 10:23:24 PM I am not tomatocage and I will prove you guys are wrong, not now cuz i barely received the loan but I wont discuss with you guys anymore, time will prove it all, so I will just letting it run and prove I am right, thanks for your concerns. Hey, care to explain why you used your own coins to fund your loan? Just to make it appear to be successful? https://btcjam.com/listings/8920 ffrogman is your alternate account. Well played Vod. I see that he's gone rather quiet now? Title: Re: Loan for Reputation #1 10% INT BACK GUARANTEED Post by: Vod on December 31, 2013, 10:36:00 PM It is not VOD, dont let your prejudize blind you, that guy is the one that had been trusting on me, and I ask you for respect to him, this is the second loan he gives me, this time is a longer time and more amount, he is a great investor anyone would love to have. Ask the admins to check if the IP are the same and any info be respectful to him. Sure. We must show respect to everyone while you treat us all like garbage. ::) ffrogman is your alt account. Title: Re: Loan for Reputation #1 10% INT BACK GUARANTEED Post by: Welsh on December 31, 2013, 10:40:07 PM Wait, hang on a second here. You expect has to believe that this "ffrogman" signed up and posted 3 posts in the gambling section and 1 in the loan section, where he claimed that it all went okay and he made a point in his post that you could of run away with the money but didn't? He didn't ask no questions, neither did he ask for collateral?
I love the trust rating you left on Tomatocage by the way "Collateral bullshit" there is a reason why people ask for collateral. Title: Re: Loan for Reputation #1 10% INT BACK GUARANTEED Post by: Welsh on December 31, 2013, 10:43:19 PM You are garbage VOD, a drunky one, I dare to prove there is a connection between ffrogman other than loans or that I am having alt account, probably you have done it to scam people, but not me.My honor is before than scaming people, I have never do, and never will scam anyone, and as i said I will prove you are wrong, time will be my best asset against your comments. You do realise that if you just give collateral which the lender agrees on this will all be sorted? (plus finding this thread as soon as you are accused of being a alt account). Title: Re: Loan for Reputation #1 10% INT BACK GUARANTEED Post by: ffrogman on December 31, 2013, 10:44:30 PM I am not his alternate account. I don't know how I can prove this to you.
Title: Re: Loan for Reputation #1 10% INT BACK GUARANTEED Post by: Welsh on December 31, 2013, 10:45:58 PM I am not his alternate account. I don't know how I can prove this to you. I find it mighty strange you are now active all of a sudden? Title: Re: Loan for Reputation #1 10% INT BACK GUARANTEED Post by: ffrogman on December 31, 2013, 10:47:52 PM I'm active because I got an email alert that Vodd posted on martinver's btcjam investment page.
edit: I have to leave for a while. I will try to provide proof when I return. Title: Re: Loan for Reputation #1 10% INT BACK GUARANTEED Post by: Vod on December 31, 2013, 11:24:47 PM I'm active because I got an email alert that Vodd posted on martinver's btcjam investment page. How did that lead you to this thread? In fact, what led you to invest in his loan on BTCJam anyway? Coincidence? Title: Re: Loan for Reputation #1 10% INT BACK GUARANTEED Post by: ffrogman on January 01, 2014, 05:37:31 AM That led me to this thread because I looked at martinver's post history after I saw the comment on btcjam. I invested in his loan because I invested in him 2 weeks or so ago and told him I would consider investing again. He messaged me after I was done being busy for the holidays and I agreed to invest in him on btcjam.
Title: Re: Loan for Reputation #1 10% INT BACK GUARANTEED Post by: meade16 on January 01, 2014, 12:47:06 PM ;D
Rumbled pmsl Title: Re: Loan for Reputation #1 10% INT BACK GUARANTEED Post by: Vod on January 02, 2014, 02:42:43 AM Ok, I just erased one of the loans VOD or Martin Lawerence, and your reason for the negative trust was that and I quote "User is taking out two simultaneous "reputation loans" with unsustainable interest rates. Will remove this when he stops this practice" now that I just have should you "logically" remove the negative trust and I also request to stop harrasing and difaming my name or I will sue you for that and in your next vacation to Mexico you will receive a nice full paid penitenciary room for two years according to Mexican Law, so please stop this activity or I will sue you, thank you!! I accept your conditions. I will be visiting Mexico this February. I assume you hold a political position of power in Mexico, and didn't really need the 0.25btc loan you just took out? ::) Title: Re: Loan for Reputation #1 10% INT BACK GUARANTEED Post by: Vod on January 02, 2014, 06:22:37 AM ok just let me know when you remove the negative trust and I will remove all the comments and threads where i discuss with you, Why would you do that? Were all your comments pure bullshit? Title: Re: Loan for Reputation #1 10% INT BACK GUARANTEED Post by: cxboyminer on January 02, 2014, 06:43:08 AM Look at what martinver left trust to ffrogman and what ffrogman left for him:
Martinver to ffrogman: Quote I RECEIVED A LOAN FROM HIM, NICE GUY!! I sent him .05 BTC in this transaction: https://blockchain.info/tx/d0ee7e0f6bed95906b20ba605cbc8e7f0b08f62552c984e16eb5deec8e9c12a7 He paid back to my requested address here: https://blockchain.info/tx/d00fce0a9d769bba1072992e32c09d99cb36010536388243a9c1646b7c870ec1 He was trustworthy and paid back on time at a higher interest rate than we agreed to. ffrogman to Martinver: Quote I sent him .05 BTC in this transaction: https://blockchain.info/tx/d0ee7e0f6bed95906b20ba605cbc8e7f0b08f62552c984e16eb5deec8e9c12a7 He paid back to my requested address here: https://blockchain.info/tx/d00fce0a9d769bba1072992e32c09d99cb36010536388243a9c1646b7c870ec1 He was trustworthy and paid back on time at a higher interest rate than we agreed to. Let's not say they have the same sentence: He was trustworthy and paid back on time at a higher interest rate than we agreed to. ffrogman's tx id is the same as martinver's tx id. Logically, ffrogman should use this Quote https://blockchain.info/tx/d00fce0a9d769bba1072992e32c09d99cb36010536388243a9c1646b7c870ec1 link on the "I sent him 0.5 BTC in this transaction", but not the one martinver sent btc back to him after the loan,assuming that martinver's comment is correct.ffrogman = martinver = scam Title: Re: Loan for Reputation #1 10% INT BACK GUARANTEED Post by: cxboyminer on January 02, 2014, 06:51:35 AM Look at what martinver left trust to ffrogman and what ffrogman left for him: Martinver to ffrogman: Quote I RECEIVED A LOAN FROM HIM, NICE GUY!! I sent him .05 BTC in this transaction: https://blockchain.info/tx/d0ee7e0f6bed95906b20ba605cbc8e7f0b08f62552c984e16eb5deec8e9c12a7 He paid back to my requested address here: https://blockchain.info/tx/d00fce0a9d769bba1072992e32c09d99cb36010536388243a9c1646b7c870ec1 He was trustworthy and paid back on time at a higher interest rate than we agreed to. ffrogman to Martinver: Quote I sent him .05 BTC in this transaction: https://blockchain.info/tx/d0ee7e0f6bed95906b20ba605cbc8e7f0b08f62552c984e16eb5deec8e9c12a7 He paid back to my requested address here: https://blockchain.info/tx/d00fce0a9d769bba1072992e32c09d99cb36010536388243a9c1646b7c870ec1 He was trustworthy and paid back on time at a higher interest rate than we agreed to. Let's not say they have the same sentence: He was trustworthy and paid back on time at a higher interest rate than we agreed to. ffrogman's tx id is the same as martinver's tx id. Logically, ffrogman should use this Quote https://blockchain.info/tx/d00fce0a9d769bba1072992e32c09d99cb36010536388243a9c1646b7c870ec1 link on the "I sent him 0.5 BTC in this transaction", but not the one martinver sent btc back to him after the loan,assuming that martinver's comment is correct.ffrogman = martinver = scam I was quoting him if you see I put "I RECEIVED A LOAN FROM HIM, NICE GUY!!" and then quoted him ok, good to know !! I offered you a settlement obviously you are not thinking clearly, you have until Monday 10 am to accept it, otherwise I will talk with my lawyer. Sure... You can say whatever you want. I'm just trying to protect this community from scammers... I read everything and VOD and others does have their point and are valid. I'm just listing any suspicions... Title: Re: Loan for Reputation #1 10% INT BACK GUARANTEED Post by: Vod on January 02, 2014, 06:55:34 AM ok, good to know !! I offered you a settlement obviously you are not thinking clearly, you have until Monday 10 am to accept it, otherwise I will talk with my lawyer. Dude, I've already called your bluff. I don't believe you are stupid enough to sue for defamation when you have done the exact same thing, but you may be. Don't wait until Monday - go see him/her tomorrow. Title: Re: Loan for Reputation #1 10% INT BACK GUARANTEED Post by: cxboyminer on January 02, 2014, 07:00:27 AM Martinver, come back when you have a trusted member vouching for you (i doubt there will be any after them reading this thread). I think this board should only allow full members with trading experience here to post. Too many scams... (facepalm)
Title: Re: Loan for Reputation #1 10% INT BACK GUARANTEED Post by: Vod on January 02, 2014, 07:09:49 AM I am not in a political charge, but I am close friend of the senator and the congressman, I bet you already noticed. If you want me to take it to the next level, I will. Don't wait - take it to the next level tomorrow. ::) Title: Re: Loan for Reputation #1 10% INT BACK GUARANTEED Post by: cxboyminer on January 02, 2014, 07:10:31 AM thank you for your observations and when its your first investment, one never thinks anything you do could be picky and creepy for others, assuming that you guys will see when my second loan gets repaid, and get all your words in the deepest part of your body!!! what bluff VOD, I just want my name and my integrity to be respected, you cant call anyone a scammer just because you want to, even though we are posting in the internet, anything you do have its consequences and you will feel them, because you didnt want to be humble and eat your words, you think you are smart and know it all, but guess what you dont. I am not in a political charge, but I am close friend of the senator and the congressman, I bet you already noticed. If you want me to take it to the next level, I will. If you can prove it to me/us that you are not a scammer, and we believe you. then I'm sure Vod, tomatocage and I will remove the neg trust. We are not calling anyone a scammer because we want to, we are suspecting you, and I will remove the neg trust if you can show me that you are a scammer (repeating myself). Title: Re: Loan for Reputation #1 10% INT BACK GUARANTEED Post by: Vod on January 02, 2014, 07:22:24 AM I offered you a truce VOD and you are not accepting it, what do you want me to do? What good is a truce? I'm not at war with you. All I did was show people you are a potential scammer when you took out two simultaneous loans with unsustainable interest rates. You then made it personal by calling me a bunch of names. So funny how you forget that and threaten to "sue" me for calling you a name. lol Bring on your lawsuit because I'm calling you a pathetic liar. Title: Re: Loan for Reputation #1 10% INT BACK GUARANTEED Post by: Vod on January 02, 2014, 07:37:09 AM ok, I must assume you are able to pay punitive damages? Shut up with your garbage. Until I see papers in my hand, you are just a pathetic liar. Title: Re: Loan for Reputation #1 10% INT BACK GUARANTEED Post by: Vod on January 02, 2014, 07:42:31 AM When you see the papers in your hand what are you going to do, ask me for a truce? or cancel your travel to mexico? Will Santa Claus be delivering it? Title: Re: Loan for Reputation #1 10% INT BACK GUARANTEED Post by: Vod on January 02, 2014, 07:51:33 AM lol now who is pathetic lol, accept it and pick on someone else because I am not backing, at least do what tomatocage offered me. and by the way why did you block private messages from me, you couldnt handle it and thought that I will just let this pass? Yep - one profane message in all caps told me you would have nothing important to say, and I blocked you. You are backing down. I can guarantee you I will never see any lawsuit papers. You are just a small time scammer and liar. :-\ Title: Re: Loan for Reputation #1 10% INT BACK GUARANTEED Post by: Vod on January 02, 2014, 07:57:13 AM I am not backing, like I am telling you I just want my name clean, and if it takes a lawsuit I will do it, because you are nobody to difame anyone anywhere. Respect others intent to grow their reputation, dont drop it because you felt like. why you didnt first send me a private message telling me that having to open loan in other website, that has nothing to do with this one will earn me a negative trust. It is the way you guys do it that fu..ck up this website. Nope - I can guarantee you will never file a lawsuit on me. Title: Re: L Post by: martinver on January 02, 2014, 08:00:57 AM do you want to bet on it?
Title: Re: L Post by: martinver on January 02, 2014, 08:02:43 AM DONT HASSLE OR SPAM OR BRING BAD COMMENTS TO MY POST, I AM DOING IT THE BEST I CAN, I KNOW I AM NOT A GOLD COIN TO BE FRIENDS OF ANYONE, BUT I DO MY BEST, SEND MESSAGE WITH RESPECT AND I WILL RESPECT YOU THE SAME WAY, THANKS FOR YOUR TRUST AND SUPPORT!!
the first thing I requested on my post and it is the first thing you do put a Neg on my trust!! Title: Re: L Post by: Welsh on January 02, 2014, 11:28:30 AM DONT HASSLE OR SPAM OR BRING BAD COMMENTS TO MY POST, I AM DOING IT THE BEST I CAN, I KNOW I AM NOT A GOLD COIN TO BE FRIENDS OF ANYONE, BUT I DO MY BEST, SEND MESSAGE WITH RESPECT AND I WILL RESPECT YOU THE SAME WAY, THANKS FOR YOUR TRUST AND SUPPORT!! the first thing I requested on my post and it is the first thing you do put a Neg on my trust!! It's a warning to others. If you proven him wrong without the suspicious loan with your alt he would of removed it. But, you have just made it worse for yourself and provided us with enough information that your initial intentions were to take that money and not return it. Title: Re: L Post by: KWH on January 02, 2014, 01:02:09 PM Usually when one finds themselves in a hole, they stop digging already.
Title: Re: L Post by: Vod on January 02, 2014, 08:21:44 PM Now this idiot is going and deleting all his old messages. Guess it was all just bullshit after all.
Title: Re: L Post by: cxboyminer on January 04, 2014, 05:23:16 AM And he dissapears... Certain that he is a scammer.
Title: Re: L Post by: Vod on January 04, 2014, 05:36:45 AM And he dissapears... Certain that he is a scammer. Well, let's wait until his current btcjam loan defaults... THEN we can call him a scammer. :) https://btcjam.com/listings/8920 (But I agree with you in pre-default. :) ) MONDAY - he is contacting his lawyer about suing me for defamation. :) Title: Re: L Post by: martinver on January 04, 2014, 09:04:16 AM No I am not running away, I am just done discussing with as...sholes!!!
Title: Re: L Post by: KWH on January 04, 2014, 02:31:23 PM I like the Trust he left Tomatocage: This guys think they know it all, and dont let good people to get loans, they are the only ones that want to get the loan market scamming people with collateral bullsh...t.
How dare he or anyone ask for that scammy collateral to protect against default from total unknowns! I mean....where's the humanity???? I guess it really is about a handful hogging all the loans to themselves. ::) http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/h428/keithh409/what-a-crock-of-shit.jpg (http://s1109.photobucket.com/user/keithh409/media/what-a-crock-of-shit.jpg.html) Title: Re: L Post by: Vod on January 06, 2014, 07:43:09 PM No I am not running away, I am just done discussing with as...sholes!!! RING RING! Today is the day MARTINVER is going to a lawyer to sue for me defamation! Martin, let us know what happens. If you do nothing, that will be a good indication you are just a scammer, as I suspected from the start. :-\ Title: Re: L Post by: Vod on January 08, 2014, 12:55:23 AM No I am not running away, I am just done discussing with as...sholes!!! RING RING! Today is the day MARTINVER is going to a lawyer to sue for me defamation! Martin, let us know what happens. If you do nothing, that will be a good indication you are just a scammer, as I suspected from the start. :-\ Odd. Martinver was on yesterday and today, and no comment? Guess I was right again. ;) Title: Re: L Post by: martinver on January 08, 2014, 06:37:29 AM I have been really busy at the congressman office, I dont have time for this sh.it right now, I see VOD has nothing else to do, but freezing his ass trying to get a demand from me. but I see it is worthless to discuss and argue with you guys, it is useless and has no point, I am smarter and I wont quit btc, but will quit discussing with a bunch of crappers like you, hope you find peace and something better to do, have a great week!!
Title: Re: L Post by: Vod on January 08, 2014, 02:16:07 PM I have been really busy at the congressman office, I dont have time for this sh.it right now, I see VOD has nothing else to do, but freezing his ass trying to get a demand from me. but I see it is worthless to discuss and argue with you guys, it is useless and has no point, I am smarter and I wont quit btc, but will quit discussing with a bunch of crappers like you, hope you find peace and something better to do, have a great week!! So you lied about contact a lawyer then? We'll see how actually honest you are when it comes time to repay your loan that you are losing 10% on. :-\ Title: Re: L Post by: martinver on January 10, 2014, 06:29:33 AM sorry I just got back from dinner with the team, it was great to talk with the congressman and other friends, enjoy the weather, cuz it is awesome here in mexico.
Title: Re: L Post by: Vod on January 10, 2014, 02:04:08 PM sorry I just got back from dinner with the team, it was great to talk with the congressman and other friends, enjoy the weather, cuz it is awesome here in mexico. I know - I'll be down there in Feb buying a sailboat. :) Title: Re: L Post by: martinver on February 05, 2014, 07:17:59 AM Nice, I have been really busy on internal party campaign!!
Title: Re: L Post by: Vod on February 12, 2014, 12:01:57 AM Nice, I have been really busy on internal party campaign!! Martin, Your loan on BTCJam is now overdue. Are you going to prove me right, again? https://btcjam.com/users/8968 Title: Re: L Post by: Tomatocage on February 20, 2014, 07:10:54 PM *Crickets*
You there, Martinver? You came out the gate swinging, but lately you're completely MIA...hope all is well. Title: Re: L Post by: Tomatocage on February 20, 2014, 07:16:13 PM Oh yeah, Martinver, I LOVE the trust rating you left me: "This guys think they know it all, and dont let good people to get loans, they are the only ones that want to get the loan market scamming people with collateral bullsh...t."
But yet you're the one who hasn't paid back his loan, just like I called it :D Title: Re: L Post by: thephill97 on February 20, 2014, 07:25:59 PM Well, that was a jolly good read! Scammer caught, I suppose.
Title: Re: L Post by: martinver on March 02, 2014, 07:28:14 AM sorry for the inconvenience and I will pay my loan as soon as possible, mtgox is not down forever but our coins are onhold, I hope you understand this situation, my reputation is and will be intact after this inconvenience, any questions please send me an email at orlandou99@gmail.com
Title: Re: L Post by: Tomatocage on March 04, 2014, 05:07:09 PM Quote from: martinver This guys think they know it all, and dont let good people to get loans, they are the only ones that want to get the loan market scamming people with collateral bullsh...t. :D Title: Re: L Post by: lemier on March 04, 2014, 05:53:30 PM Well, that was a jolly good read! Scammer caught, I suppose. Scammer caught! Looks like we've got a happy end! :) Title: Re: L Post by: Vod on March 04, 2014, 06:44:54 PM Well, that was a jolly good read! Scammer caught, I suppose. Scammer caught! Looks like we've got a happy end! :) Well not really, the guy got away with stealing the coins.... |
