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Title: UFC FN 129: Maia vs Usman Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: tokeweed on May 18, 2018, 02:10:53 PM
Date: Saturday, May 19th
Preliminary Card (UFC Fight Pass): 22:30 BCT / 3:30pm PST / 6:30pm EST
Preliminary Card (Fox Sports 2): 00:00 BCT / 5pm PST / 8pm EST
Main Card (Fox Sports 1): 2:00 BCT / 7pm PST / 10pm EST
Live Streams: http://www.fėrstrow.eu/


https://i.imgur.com/oZxIzD2.jpg

Main Card (Fox Sports 1)

https://i.imgur.com/1M3a7Pb.gif Demian Maia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demian_Maia) (25-8) vs. https://i.imgur.com/M5HAlET.gif Kamaru Usman (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamaru_Usman) (12-1) (Welterweight)
https://i.imgur.com/U9DtY2I.gif Alexa Grasso (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexa_Grasso) (10-1) vs. https://i.imgur.com/TNaFXPM.gif Tatiana Suarez (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tatiana_Suarez) (5-0) (Women's Strawweight)
https://i.imgur.com/TNaFXPM.gif Jared Cannonier (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jared_Cannonier) (10-3) vs. https://i.imgur.com/TNaFXPM.gif Dominick Reyes (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominick_Reyes) (8-0) (Light Heavyweight)
https://i.imgur.com/8iUE5wJ.gif Diego Rivas (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diego_Rivas_(fighter)) (7-1) vs. https://i.imgur.com/yn5NfcB.gif Guido Cannetti (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guido_Cannetti) (7-3) (Bantamweight)
https://i.imgur.com/bN2YmN2.gif Veronica Macedo (http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Veronica-Macedo-180217) (5-1-1) vs. https://i.imgur.com/TNaFXPM.gif Andrea Lee (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrea_Lee_(fighter)) (8-2) (Women's Flyweight)
https://i.imgur.com/1M3a7Pb.gif Vicente Luque (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vicente_Luque) (12-6-1) vs. https://i.imgur.com/ecoGNcd.gif Chad Laprise (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chad_Laprise) (13-2) (Welterweight)

Preliminary Card (Fox Sports 2)

https://i.imgur.com/TNaFXPM.gif Zak Cummings (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zak_Cummings) (21-5) vs. https://i.imgur.com/1M3a7Pb.gif Michel Prazeres (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michel_Prazeres) (24-2) (Welterweight)
https://i.imgur.com/U9DtY2I.gif Brandon Moreno (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandon_Moreno) (14-4) vs. https://i.imgur.com/1M3a7Pb.gif Alexandre Pantoja (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandre_Pantoja) (18-3) (Flyweight)
https://i.imgur.com/1M3a7Pb.gif Poliana Botelho (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poliana_Botelho) (6-1) vs. https://i.imgur.com/87k7gIp.gif Syuri Kondo (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syuri_Kondo) (6-0) (Women's Strawweight)
https://i.imgur.com/U9DtY2I.gif Gabriel Benitez (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabriel_Ben%C3%ADtez) (20-6) vs. https://i.imgur.com/QsvKBvq.gif Humberto Bandenay (http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Humberto-Bandenay-110397) (14-4) (Featherweight)

Preliminary Card (UFC Fight Pass)

https://i.imgur.com/QsvKBvq.gif Enrique Barzola (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enrique_Barzola) (14-3-1) vs. https://i.imgur.com/TNaFXPM.gif Brandon Davis (http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Brandon-Davis-67782) (9-3) (Featherweight)
https://i.imgur.com/U9DtY2I.gif Henry Briones (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Briones) (16-7-1) vs. https://i.imgur.com/TNaFXPM.gif Frankie Saenz (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankie_Saenz) (12-5) (Bantamweight)
https://i.imgur.com/QsvKBvq.gif Claudio Puelles (http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Claudio-Puelles-105897) (7-2) vs. https://i.imgur.com/1M3a7Pb.gif Felipe Silva (http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Felipe-Silva-128357) (8-1) (Lightweight)

Other

- A welterweight bout between Kamaru Usman and Santiago Ponzinibbio was expected to serve as the event headliner. However, Ponzinibbio pulled out on April 21 due to injury. He was replaced by Demian Maia on April 26.

- Ray Borg and Brandon Moreno were scheduled again and was expected to take place at this event. However, Borg withdrew from the bout to take care of his child, who required brain surgery. He was replaced by Alexandre Pantoja on April 28.

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Title: Re: UFC FN 129: Maia vs Usman Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: Hydrogen on May 18, 2018, 09:40:46 PM
Notes.

-I'm surprised Jared Cannonier opened as an underdog. Cannonier has faced by far higher level competition than Reyes has. Maybe bookies know something we don't, else Cannonier could be a live dog here.

-I'll go out on a limb here and say Veronica Macedo is a better kickboxer than Andrea KGB Lee is. It doesn't mean Macedo will win the fight if she hasn't done a better job improving her wrestling or ground game. Macedo also could be a live dog.

-Zak Cummings used to fight @ 185 lbs while Michel Prazeres fought @ 155. Cummings could also have a good size advantage (have to check weigh in results to verify) with him standing near 6 feet and Prazeres being around 5 foot 6. The bigger or heavier man doesn't always win. It has been awhile since we've seen this type of size disparity in a fight though.

-Henry Briones also might be a live underdog. Not certain on that.


Title: Re: UFC FN 129: Maia vs Usman Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: bbc.reporter on May 19, 2018, 12:43:27 AM
@Hydrogen. Do you have notes on the pretty Alexa Grasso and Tatiana Suarez? I reckon Alexa might be too underestimated for this fight. The odds for her is at +499 now and with only 1 day to go before the fight.


Title: Re: UFC FN 129: Maia vs Usman Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: Hydrogen on May 19, 2018, 07:59:03 PM
@Hydrogen. Do you have notes on the pretty Alexa Grasso and Tatiana Suarez? I reckon Alexa might be too underestimated for this fight. The odds for her is at +499 now and with only 1 day to go before the fight.

I think everyone is looking for easy fights (past of least resistance) and no one wants to fight Tatiana Suarez due to her accomplishments and athleticism:

Quote
What ranks and titles have you held?
Tatiana Suarez: I was a two-time bronze medalist in the world championships of freestyle wrestling. Gladiator Challenge champion. Ranked number one in the USA at 55kg in freestyle wrestling in 2011, ASICS National High School Wrestler of the Year in 2007 and 2008

I give Alexa Grasso a lot of credit for taking this fight. That shows some confidence and courage.

If Suarez can't get top position on the ground Grasso has a chance of winning. Usually in MMA when one fighter is really good at wrestling/grappling and can take the fight to the ground when they choose, that's often a winning strategy. Especially in woman's MMA where KO/TKO finishes are much less common and a lot of women don't have the right strength and conditioning training to be able to counter a powerful wrestler/takedown artist.


Title: Re: UFC FN 129: Maia vs Usman Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: eaLiTy on May 19, 2018, 11:09:14 PM
I am not familiar with the rest of the fighters in the card other than Maia and Usman, both fighters are good on the ground and i am expect Usman to have the upper hand because of his wrestling, the age is the issue for Maia.

Zak Cummings used to fight @ 185 lbs while Michel Prazeres fought @ 155. Cummings could also have a good size advantage (have to check weigh in results to verify) with him standing near 6 feet and Prazeres being around 5 foot 6. The bigger or heavier man doesn't always win. It has been awhile since we've seen this type of size disparity in a fight though.
Usually these sort of size difference is visible in heavy weight division and the fight i remember with similar height difference was Pat Barry (5 ft 11 in) and Stefan Struve (7 ft).  :D


Title: Re: UFC FN 129: Maia vs Usman Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: tokeweed on May 20, 2018, 11:29:57 AM
It's so sad to see Maia lose for the third straight time.  I think needs to retire in a year or two.  :(

And I wanna see Usman vs RDA, Wonderboy or Woodley now...  He could become the next champ imo.


Title: Re: UFC FN 129: Maia vs Usman Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: peter0425 on May 20, 2018, 01:00:06 PM
It's so sad to see Maia lose for the third straight time.  I think needs to retire in a year or two.  :(

And I wanna see Usman vs RDA, Wonderboy or Woodley now...  He could become the next champ imo.
I was about to look for the result of the match as I'm also not familiar with most of the fighters on the card when I saw our post. As @eaLiTy, it looks like age is catching faster on most fighter than we think. Tatiana defeated Alexa Grasso via rear naked choked, as Grasso was easily taken to the ground by Tatiana, he did her best to get back on her feet but Tatiana wouldn't let that happen and the choked was tight forcing her to tapped.


Title: Re: UFC FN 129: Maia vs Usman Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: tokeweed on May 20, 2018, 02:31:14 PM
^  I don't know anything much about Usman too tbh.  I'm just judging from what I saw in the match.  He has speed, a good take down defense and the cardio.

So yeah...  I think he won't be another Ngannou.  ;D


Title: Re: UFC FN 129: Maia vs Usman Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: Hydrogen on May 20, 2018, 11:57:11 PM
Post event notes.

-Jared Cannonier looks to have deteriorated significantly since moving to train out of MMA lab. It is possible MMA lab run by John Crouch is one of the worst big name mixed martial arts gyms to train in.

-Veronica Macedo's wrestling, grappling and fight IQ were terrible. Even worse than her first fight in the UFC. Her kickboxing was very good everything else not so good.

-Zak Cummings training out of Factory X muay thai which could be another of the worst big name MMA gyms aside from MMA lab.

My only real bet for this event was Vicente Luque. Didn't do too bad. Don't know why I got a bit emotionally attached to some of the outcomes for this event its a bit out of character but I did. lol