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Title: CPU mining
Post by: Praxis on January 01, 2014, 09:58:04 PM
I have a few Xeon PCs and I tried mining Memorycoin, Datacoin and Primecoin. Right now I'm getting the most from mining Primecoin.
Anything else I should try? Is Primecoin the best option?
I run jhprimeminer with the default parameters and without AVX
Any tip how to optimize this process would be greatly appreciated

Thanks.


Title: Re: CPU mining
Post by: Alohaboy?! on January 01, 2014, 10:04:24 PM
Which Version of Miner do you use? Got Problems With One of the older ones @primeminer


Title: Re: CPU mining
Post by: Praxis on January 01, 2014, 10:08:16 PM
I'm running many Xeon PCs but getting only a ~2 Primecoins a day. Not sure if that's normal.

http://xpmwiki.com/index.php?title=Jhprimeminer


Title: Re: CPU mining
Post by: msbtc on January 01, 2014, 10:10:00 PM
*bump*

Good question praxis, I want to know the same thing.  Seems protoshares was the most profitable up until recently.

If I might ask, how much are you earning in dollars from mining primecoin?  I'm considering it...


Title: Re: CPU mining
Post by: Praxis on January 01, 2014, 10:16:50 PM
*bump*

Good question praxis, I want to know the same thing.  Seems protoshares was the most profitable up until recently.

If I might ask, how much are you earning in dollars from mining primecoin?  I'm considering it...

About $20 daily but it's running on a lot of PCs (everything legit no botnets)


Title: Re: CPU mining
Post by: alicea on January 01, 2014, 10:45:59 PM
Hey, maybe you would give me an advice :)
I have a server that has some free power, I mean: besides the things it normally does, it can put some power in hashing. Some time ago I was testing and it was about 30kH/s. What cpu-currency would you advice?


Title: Re: CPU mining
Post by: zerem on January 01, 2014, 11:36:43 PM
I'm currently mining Particle (http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=392804.0). It's quite new, so there's no exchange rate you can use to calculate profitability. On the other hand it might turn out profitable to mine early and hold on to the coins for a while, that's what I'm trying my luck on! ;)


Title: Re: CPU mining
Post by: customxyz on January 01, 2014, 11:37:33 PM
Protoshares!


Title: Re: CPU mining
Post by: tadakaluri on January 01, 2014, 11:47:29 PM
Bernankoin (BEK) is best one.  Which have very low diff and easily get/mine large number of coins at present.


Title: Re: CPU mining
Post by: Praxis on January 01, 2014, 11:49:32 PM
Protoshares!

Is it better than Memorycoin? Cause I'm not getting good results with MMC


Title: Re: CPU mining
Post by: Nullu on January 01, 2014, 11:54:27 PM
I'm currently mining Particle (http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=392804.0). It's quite new, so there's no exchange rate you can use to calculate profitability. On the other hand it might turn out profitable to mine early and hold on to the coins for a while, that's what I'm trying my luck on! ;)

+1.

If you haven't got a lot of mining power, you may profit more from speculation and investing in coins than trying to always jump ship.


Title: Re: CPU mining
Post by: FreeTrade on January 01, 2014, 11:59:43 PM
Protoshares!

Is it better than Memorycoin? Cause I'm not getting good results with MMC

What kind of hashrate are you seeing with MCC? Do you have AES-NI on your CPUs?


Title: Re: CPU mining
Post by: nurminen1 on January 02, 2014, 12:00:03 AM
Dimecoin is best I think.


Title: Re: CPU mining
Post by: alicea on January 02, 2014, 12:07:55 AM
PRT-client for Win works fine on Wine emulator @ubuntu, wow!

Do I need to have another minerd? Newer than 2.3.2? My 2.3.2 does not recognise the parameter -a quark and returns error


Title: Re: CPU mining
Post by: vlight on January 02, 2014, 12:08:41 AM
I'm currently mining Particle (http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=392804.0). It's quite new, so there's no exchange rate you can use to calculate profitability. On the other hand it might turn out profitable to mine early and hold on to the coins for a while, that's what I'm trying my luck on! ;)
Is it still worth mining Frozen? Or is it better to concentrate on Particle now?


Title: Re: CPU mining
Post by: Praxis on January 02, 2014, 12:09:48 AM
Hey, maybe you would give me an advice :)
I have a server that has some free power, I mean: besides the things it normally does, it can put some power in hashing. Some time ago I was testing and it was about 30kH/s. What cpu-currency would you advice?

What kind of CPU it has?


Title: Re: CPU mining
Post by: Praxis on January 02, 2014, 12:11:23 AM
Protoshares!

Is it better than Memorycoin? Cause I'm not getting good results with MMC

What kind of hashrate are you seeing with MCC? Do you have AES-NI on your CPUs?


Most machines give me 0,1h/m , some 0.2h/m and only the Xeon X series give 2h/m or more (highest 5h/m)

Not sure about AES-NI. I'll try to find that out. Do I have to run the miner with special parameters if I want to take advantage of AES-NI?

In any case, I tested Primecoin/Datacoin VS Memorycoin and at least according to my calculation, XPM/DTC pay better.


Title: Re: CPU mining
Post by: alicea on January 02, 2014, 12:20:28 AM
Hey, maybe you would give me an advice :)
I have a server that has some free power, I mean: besides the things it normally does, it can put some power in hashing. Some time ago I was testing and it was about 30kH/s. What cpu-currency would you advice?

What kind of CPU it has?

intel 64-bit


Title: Re: CPU mining
Post by: FreeTrade on January 02, 2014, 12:21:13 AM
Most machines give me 0,1h/m , some 0.2h/m and only the Xeon X series give 2h/m or more (highest 5h/m)

Not sure about AES-NI. I'll try to find that out. Do I have to run the miner with special parameters if I want to take advantage of AES-NI?

In any case, I tested Primecoin/Datacoin VS Memorycoin and at least according to my calculation, XPM/DTC pay better.

Different machines will probably give you different rates of return for different coins. The 2h/m minute machines sound like they are AESNI enabled, so you might find those are more profitable to put on MCC, with the others on XPM. 5h/m =~ $5/day on MCC atm.

Sometimes a machine has AES-NI capability but is disable in the BIOS. Other than that, the software should pick it up automatically.


Title: Re: CPU mining
Post by: Mortimer452 on January 02, 2014, 12:21:47 AM
I recommend Datacoin, I think it's very undervalued right now.  I am getting ~4DTC per day mining on a modest older Xeon server.


Title: Re: CPU mining
Post by: Kenshin on January 02, 2014, 12:22:13 AM
Quarkcoin is good for mining.


Title: Re: CPU mining
Post by: koosBR on January 02, 2014, 12:25:55 AM
SecondsCoin will rise in a few days. mining and CPU


Title: Re: CPU mining
Post by: Praxis on January 02, 2014, 12:26:40 AM
Most machines give me 0,1h/m , some 0.2h/m and only the Xeon X series give 2h/m or more (highest 5h/m)

Not sure about AES-NI. I'll try to find that out. Do I have to run the miner with special parameters if I want to take advantage of AES-NI?

In any case, I tested Primecoin/Datacoin VS Memorycoin and at least according to my calculation, XPM/DTC pay better.

Different machines will probably give you different rates of return for different coins. The 2h/m minute machines sound like they are AESNI enabled, so you might find those are more profitable to put on MCC, with the others on XPM. 5h/m =~ $5/day on MCC atm.

Sometimes a machine has AES-NI capability but is disable in the BIOS. Other than that, the software should pick it up automatically.


Very useful advice, thank you.


Title: Re: CPU mining
Post by: alicea on January 02, 2014, 12:26:48 AM
Do I need another minerd? I'm testing it on my own comp, and my minerd - ver. 2.3.2 - doesn't recognise the parameter -a quark in the command like this:
./minerd -a quark -o http://prt.mine-pool.net:9472 -O address:pass


Title: Re: CPU mining
Post by: Nullu on January 02, 2014, 12:28:57 AM
Do I need another minerd? I'm testing it on my own comp, and my minerd - ver. 2.3.2 - doesn't recognise the parameter -a quark in the command like this:
./minerd -a quark -o http://prt.mine-pool.net:9472 -O address:pass

Newer versions of the original Minerd no longer support quark. There are some optimised  "forked" versions of Minerd depending on what system you have. Which are still developed which still support Quark;

This is what I'm currently using; http://sourceforge.net/projects/philosopherstone/files/QRK/


Title: Re: CPU mining
Post by: Praxis on January 02, 2014, 08:21:52 AM
Is there an easy way to check whether the processor supports AES?


Title: Re: CPU mining
Post by: efx on January 02, 2014, 08:29:29 AM
I always use cpuid in windows or hwinfo. There's probably an easier way that I've forgotten apart from looking up the CPU model.


Linux will show an aes flag in /proc/cpuinfo if it is supported.


Title: Re: CPU mining
Post by: zerem on January 02, 2014, 09:10:07 AM
Do I need another minerd? I'm testing it on my own comp, and my minerd - ver. 2.3.2 - doesn't recognise the parameter -a quark in the command like this:
./minerd -a quark -o http://prt.mine-pool.net:9472 -O address:pass

Newer versions of the original Minerd no longer support quark. There are some optimised  "forked" versions of Minerd depending on what system you have. Which are still developed which still support Quark;

This is what I'm currently using; http://sourceforge.net/projects/philosopherstone/files/QRK/

+1

I'm using the i3i5i7_Improved version since I have an i5-3570K and I get 640kh/s (stock clock freq) when mining Particle. Yields me around 20k Particles per day.


Title: Re: CPU mining
Post by: Praxis on January 02, 2014, 09:25:21 AM
Do I need another minerd? I'm testing it on my own comp, and my minerd - ver. 2.3.2 - doesn't recognise the parameter -a quark in the command like this:
./minerd -a quark -o http://prt.mine-pool.net:9472 -O address:pass

Newer versions of the original Minerd no longer support quark. There are some optimised  "forked" versions of Minerd depending on what system you have. Which are still developed which still support Quark;

This is what I'm currently using; http://sourceforge.net/projects/philosopherstone/files/QRK/

+1

I'm using the i3i5i7_Improved version since I have an i5-3570K and I get 640kh/s (stock clock freq) when mining Particle. Yields me around 20k Particles per day.

Does Particle have a market value?


Title: Re: CPU mining
Post by: zerem on January 02, 2014, 09:56:46 AM
No, it's quite new, so there's no exchange where you can trade Particles yet.


Title: Re: CPU mining
Post by: Praxis on January 03, 2014, 08:08:40 AM
No, it's quite new, so there's no exchange where you can trade Particles yet.

Is it any different from existing coins?


Title: Re: CPU mining
Post by: brioche on January 04, 2014, 06:30:07 PM
Seems like all the mining program require 64bit to run. Is it possible to use a 32bit OS to mine any of these coins?


Title: Re: CPU mining
Post by: FreeTrade on January 05, 2014, 01:39:47 AM
Seems like all the mining program require 64bit to run. Is it possible to use a 32bit OS to mine any of these coins?

MemoryCoin has 32 bit miners available for a number of pools. You can pool mine direct from the 32bit GUI.


Title: Re: CPU mining
Post by: brioche on January 06, 2014, 03:38:49 AM
Seems like all the mining program require 64bit to run. Is it possible to use a 32bit OS to mine any of these coins?

MemoryCoin has 32 bit miners available for a number of pools. You can pool mine direct from the 32bit GUI.


oh, okay cool. thanks.


Title: Re: CPU mining
Post by: alicea on January 07, 2014, 11:22:07 AM
Do we need another forked version of minerd for Memorycoin or can we use the same one, that mines Quark or Particle?

SecondsCoin will rise in a few days. mining and CPU
How many means "a few"...?