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Scam.

You should add a photo with your username written on a piece of paper alongside the unit (and preferably with a shoe as well).

sincerely sorry you picked the wrong horse, but its not like there weren't people warning about BFL on this forum. As you say "took forever to get here" .... just like nearly everyone predicted. No idea how BFL are still in business.

0.2 shipped to the uk. you send first or we escrow.

Or buy a brand new 10GH Jalapeno for $374...hmm...  ::)

.21 us shipped w escrow.

Or 6 times as much for just $600 more. >_>

Or I'll scrap it for you free ::)

Payment sent to 13yi4UWqjT6KtE6pxKrxgU41SB2jNhVWns.

PM'd you the delivery address. Once it's delivered, I'll send the remaining BTC0.12, plus any difference in shipping cost.

Let's hope it turns up if you've paid 50% up front.

hm theres something off about that first picture with the name on the paper looks weird i hope you used escrow for this

No I don't think he did use escrow :(

Did that dude really just photoshop his name on a sheet of paper onto that photo? This would be hilarious.

I'd be more worried about why he would pick up his Jally, and move it to take pictures in 3 different locations. On carpet, tile, and on a desk.

*edit* Yep, you were scammed. I found the pictures in the OP on different Ebay listings.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Butterfly-Labs-BFL-Jalapeno-Bitcoin-ASIC-Miner-5-Gh-s-USB-/261365631747?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cda9b0b03

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Butterfly-Labs-BFL-Jalapeno-7-GH-S-ASIC-Bitcoin-Miner-In-Hand-/151200541627?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2334412bbb

People need to stop paying any amount up front, especially 50% !!!, unless its a trusted seller.

Use escrow, that's what its there for.

I'm so sick of scammers. Paying up front only encourages them to come here. Let them stay at ebay

Seller says that he's going to ship item today. I am still willing to give the benefit of the doubt until tomorrow.

I really appreciate everyone's input here. It's good to know that everyone is out looking for scammers.

I sent a PM to the buyer to discuss details of the sale because I tend to ask a ton of questions and I would rather not clutter the public thread. However, I do insist upon making details of the sale public before I send payment. In this case, I considered the amount of BTC0.24 to be an amount that would not only be disproportionately increased by escrow, but (more importantly) an amount that I was willing to lose half of if the sale went bad.

Even though I am not the most active member, I do read a lot and I am well aware of best practices when it comes to transactions here. This deal was voluntary on my part, but thanks to everyone for watching out.

i dont believe you will receive anything you were scammed he stole those photos off ebay and the first photo is photoshopped i will leave him negative trust i will remove it if/when you receive the bfl but i seriously doubt you will

Everyone is correct, there was no Jalapeno. Though it means nothing, I'm sincerely sorry that I've taken the coins, and I wish you good luck in cryptocurrency.

:D Well that's new. Escrow's free, btw. (and sorry for your loss)

lol, the gentleman thief..

I'm honestly amused. Well played.

thanks for confirming what we already knew

Thank you. It's actually my first time.
...The descent has begun.

Good luck finding ASICs. Also, I'd say always use an escrow for purchases over $100 and buyers with unverified/low trust.

Give him back the money now.

At least some ;)

That's a very good idea you have there, erre.

Delarock, give me an address to return the money to, so I can log it down. When I start making real money (legitimately or illegitimately), I'll send you the $95 back.

I'm confused, Thedovahkiin909, was this a lesson to Delarock, and you do intend on returning the money? Or are you trying to give Delarock hope that you will return the money so you can make a smoother getaway.

I'd be rather impressed if you sent the Bitcoins back actually.

Lol @ smoother getaway

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If you want to send it back.

I'm not quite sure I understand you. I see no way that stealing with the supposed intention of returning the money would make a "smoother getaway." This is a forum on Bitcoins, and everything attached to this account is a burner, I couldn't have exited smoother.

This was not a lesson for Delarock, it was a scheme for personal gain at the expense of another. However, I consider myself a good sport, and see no reason to fuck someone over more than is necessary.


To be clear: I meant that sooner or later, be it months or years, I will return the money, when $100 isn't such a reward that I literally got off of my couch to perform pelvic thrusts when I got 5 confirmations.

Don't be so sure that everything you used to create this account was a burner. I run a midsized hosting company and I was contacted by a detective not so long ago concerning a scam on craigslist involving hardware that never got delivered and an IP he got from craigslist belonging to my IP range. Long story short thanks to my and craigslist's cooperation the scam artist was identified and arrested despite him using VPN, fake information and throw away e-mail address.
You're increasing the chances of getting caught the more you post here, timestamps rarely lie and with some regexp magic its rather trivial to cross reference.
I'm sort of an anarchist myself but people like you should be locked up, ripping people off doesn't not constitute of you being a good sport, sooner or later the scams you've done will catch up with you. My advise to you is quit while you're ahead, this is not a way to earn for a living.

You do have a point, I've let my ego get the better of me.

Goodbye.

Hmmmmm. User admits theft openly. I could see LE getting involved. I hope you used 7 proxies, dovaklin.

He stated he was shipping from North Carolina. Anyone want to help me track this person down?

I don't think the OP understands how IP trace-backs & logs work...
If staff here decided to provide me or any network-inclined users with the IP address of the OP, I could trace it back in less than 20 minutes.  Of course this becomes more difficult the more proxies he is working through, but I am going out on a limb and assuming he used less than 2.

Why are staff so reluctant to provide information on known (and in this case, admitted) scammers?

I could single handedly expose him, his ISP, his personal IP, his alt accounts, his e-mail addresses if given the adequate information.

I'm all for getting the fuck but if he has half a brain he used tor.

A perfect example of why escrow is important when dealing with members that don't have established trust ratings. Here's a list of forum members that are willing to provide escrow services: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=108716.0

If I was site admin, I wouldn't release IP logs without a warrant... Doxing people is bad news.

Within the authority of the forum, this doesn't get much clearer as a confirmed scam. I'm personally for IP providing in these cases.

Someone trolled one of my for sale threads before I had significant trust history, pretending to be an alt account. I asked mods to provide IPs (or just show that they wern't mine....) and they said that IP information isn't collected. Its a shame, so many scammers could be provided to the FBI with just that IP.

Is that a helpful IP in the lower right hand side?

LOL gg, that's his proxy IP he was using on the tor browser. Its nothing to do with that particular site: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/gene/10498, but the administrator of that site could track the view at that time stamp with that IP and trace it back from there. Or science or something :P

Or if he used a VPN...  sort of hard to track down then.

Well, I am no TOR expert, just tryin to help.  Scammers like this are affecting business and need to be dealt with.

Honestly, everyone that falls for an obvious scam like that pretty much deserves what he gets.

Really...
They deserved to have their coins stolen.....if that line of thought helps ease your conscience you need to check yourself.

I didn't steal from anyone, so there's no need for that. It just seems totally absurd to me that people keep falling for the same obvious tricks.

I was speaking in general....

To new folks these are not the same old obvious tricks...my opinion only most newbies see buying and selling on here like craigslist where cheap used stuff is commonplace.

That IP address is gold for someone with any wherewithal when it comes to networking.
I wish I had some more time to dig into this.  If that is legitimately the IP where the OP was thinking he was safe, then he is as dumb as a doornail and can be exposed.

think this should be sticky for everyone to see so more ppl use escrow...maybe even copied and sticky'd in the goods section as well :)

He was running two scams at once....for a rough total of $160....bottom feeder will most likely return.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=397903.msg4298327#msg4298327

What a douchebag, [Completed Scam]. lol Like just rubs it in, you dinkus, we'll be waiting for you.

Karma will catch up to him.  What comes around goes around.  Im sure the scammer is some 20 year old that still lives with his mommy.  Probably doesnt have a job and is going no where in life. 

To the one who fell for this scam,  At least you didnt loose thousands.  Could have been worse.   Sucks you got scammed,  but use this as a lesson.   Dont trade with anyone with out due diligence.  If they are new  use escrow for sure.   Sofar I have been lucky and have done a few legit trades,  but I try to just go with respected members here.   I have lost money before to scams before,  now I am more careful.

Goodluck.   Sent you a small donation ,  not much  but I dont have much at the moment. 

https://blockchain.info/tx-index/6f719cbd45a6d94b2024f87be1edda484e872d77b2621360f5cc28392a762d7d

I wish I could laugh but this kind of thing sickens me.

I was a little hesitant to post this because it may seem like I'm just trying to save face when it was obvious that something was up...

This was something that I assumed all the risk on. I knew that I was taking a risk on this kind of deal, but it's a philosophical issue that I have with sales here. The system isn't perfect and it's rife with scammers, but there has to be a certain degree of faith that we place in others, no matter how reputable they are. The risk wasn't that great, and I would not have taken a chance if it was more than $100. For example, I was involved in a "Projects" sale that would have involved approx BTC9. This guy was a reputable member, but I did not like the way he conducted business. It was red flags since minute one. However, due to the fact that his Trust feedback was good and he was a very established member, I was considering doing the deal. He wouldn't adhere to certain things I consider vital before a sale, so I ended up passing. Turns out, he's scammed quite a few people. I didn't lose with "Projects." I lost on this transaction. It is what it is.

Hopefully this will be a good example for all. What I've learned is that the community here looks out for each other, and there are plenty of people trying to sniff out scammers. Every one who does this, no matter how harsh there advice may be to new members or first time traders, makes it harder for scammers. Lesson learned.

And NocTurNalFx- Thank you for the donation, but it's not necessary. I've sent it back plus a little bit extra. Figured I had allocated a little bit for this scam sale, you can have some of that. Use it safely and wisely.  ;D

https://blockchain.info/tx/bdf00846d26b325842cab07e2a156162ae71c964af43b6666234620a4f5b9d62

Maybe this is the "dovahkiin" thief?  IDK, it's some sort of Skyrim character?   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4KQk0pS9z8

Well. They obviously wouldn't, and you can count Gmail and Google out without a government demand, too. They're hardcore about not revealing data on their users to the plebs. To what sites do Favicons 2-4 belong? I'm guessing #4 is the most promising.

Hopefully new members will do a little research before they trade.  Its very easy to get scammed.  Nothing is 100 percent full proof with btc  thats for sure.  The more the community comes together  the easier it will be to stamp out the majority of the scammers.  One day :)

I didn't mind donating you the coin.  i would have sent over all that you were scammed out of if I had it on hand.  TBH you helped me out tremendously,  I put a couple usb miners for sale because i need  a little bit of coin to upgrade my Gh/s .  you put me a little over half way to my goal.  

Karma is a good thing.   Thanks allot Delarock.  Sorry  you got scammed.    Hopefully he will get his in the end.  

@Delarock,

I just noticed this thread and wanted to say I'm sorry you were manipulated by a lazy no good worthless mother f!@#$r who obviously doesn't care about the long term health of bitcoin as a viable medium of exchange. Idiots like that are helping to hinder mainstream acceptance of this currency.

I'm hoping that that wasn't the only Jally you had a line on for the chips you just picked up. If it was (I believe in karma as well) I wasn't really ready to sell my Jallys, but I will offer one of the 4 I picked up on Black Friday at the same price, so you're not left hanging in the wind. I've got photos of the output on the hacking thread and it would be a 3 chip vice a 2 chip Jally, but other than that it's brand new and has been crunching since the day I bought it without issue. If you read the other thread, you'll know I opened it, replaced the thermal compound and flipped the fan for better cooling.

Note: This offer is good for Delarock only as he just picked up some raw BFL chips from me & I don't like to see people getting screwed. Earliest I could ship it would be late tomorrow and I'll have to use a different box then what it came in, because I received all 4 of the Black Friday Jally's in one box... I do still have a one unit Jally box (from the one I blew up) so it will be in a original BFL box. If you decide to do this, I'd ask you cover shipping costs.

Anyway, Sorry you got taken by an A$$hole. Let me know if you want one.... If you look at the hacking thread, it would be one of the 9.9-10ish Jallys, not the 12. The 12's are the 2 chip ones I added a chip to, and the 9.9-10's are the ones I received with 3 chips in place already. So aside from the thermal compound and fan flip, you'd be receiving a pristine unit.

Thanks elaramus. I'm good for now. I'm not out anything besides a fraction of a bitcoin. Not a big deal- whenever you're ready to sell, shoot me a PM.

This IP resolves back to the host of that website......


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130.14.29.110
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TOR ftw?

Unfortunately if the staff had to deal with all the scams on this forum, they wouldn't have time to do anything else.

Be good to get him though :)

This guy took the "scam" to a new level. At least we know how to verify it in the future. Sorry to hear that the buyer has lost his coins.