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Title: Payment platform for Fedoracoin coming
Post by: withfedoraco.in on January 02, 2014, 05:53:51 PM
Can't post this in the altcoin subforum yet, so I might as well post it here.

We're launching w/ Fedoracoin next week, check out our site at http://pay.withfedoraco.in/

Right now we're looking for developers as well as website owners and Fedoracoin users to start a discussion about payment platforms and what every stakeholder expects from such a system.
We will be open sourcing our entire software stack at launch because we feel that that can improve security and security is key for any platform that will handle coins.

Some quotes from the site

Quote from: For end users
We believe that a huge share of feeling secure about making payments comes from knowing what's going on. That's why you keep full control over what software you use to handle a transaction.

You already have a wallet set up, why should we force you to keep two accounts with two different sets of transactions?

* Use your existing tools
* No logging in
* No account info required

Quote from: For site owners
It's completely overkill for every small website to run its own instance of the Fedoracoin daemon.

Let us worry about the gory details. You just create the transaction via our API and we'll give you a callback when payment has been confirmed. It's as easy as that.

You can even specify prices in other currencies than just Fedoracoin. We regularly update the exchange rates between TIPS/BTC and TIPS/LTC (from CoinedUp) and we'll convert your prices to TIPS so your users get to pay with Fedoracoin and you get the right amount of coins.

Once I gain enough activity to be able to post in the appropriate subforum I will post it there.
For now, let's hear what everyone thinks!


Title: Re: Payment platform for Fedoracoin coming
Post by: Fozy on January 04, 2014, 10:20:25 PM
This is great!  I'm excited to see this happening!


Title: Re: Payment platform for Fedoracoin coming
Post by: journeytodogecoin on January 04, 2014, 10:35:45 PM
reserved.


Title: Re: Payment platform for Fedoracoin coming
Post by: merred on January 05, 2014, 12:59:26 AM
nice


Title: Re: Payment platform for Fedoracoin coming
Post by: CoinPN on January 05, 2014, 01:02:29 AM
Nice been mining tips for a long time now  :D


Title: Re: Payment platform for Fedoracoin coming
Post by: defaced on January 05, 2014, 01:04:22 AM
will this be only for fedoracoin and if so what would the benefit of this service be over say coinpayments.net?


Title: Re: Payment platform for Fedoracoin coming
Post by: dimiro on January 05, 2014, 01:07:30 AM
Looks awesome!

Can not wait to see it live!


Title: Re: Payment platform for Fedoracoin coming
Post by: withfedoraco.in on January 05, 2014, 09:08:31 AM
will this be only for fedoracoin and if so what would the benefit of this service be over say coinpayments.net?

For now, yes.

I didn't know that site, but they don't support TIPS.
Other than that, we plan on making the payment process a bit more developer and end-user friendly.

Right now, we have the following APIs planned:

  • Simple REST API; you request the transaction and get an address which you can show to your users, we will ping your callback when it's done and you can poll for changes
  • JS client flow; you load our JS library and start a transaction, a modal window shows up that handles the payment and will call a JS callback when done, then you use the REST API to confirm
  • Simple client flow; you redirect users to our site, they complete te transaction there, we redirect them back, you confirm using the REST API

The first is obviously the most work to implement, but also the most versatile.
The second gives a superior user experience with a known and trusted UI right from your website. It will use websocket to our API to listen for updates.
The third option is the easiest to implement: just point your users to our URL and we'll handle everything. This is the method that for instance PayPal and iDeal use.


Title: Re: Payment platform for Fedoracoin coming
Post by: porkusCOLL on January 05, 2014, 02:41:07 PM
raise fedora !
currency with much potential !

give it the value it deserves !


Title: Re: Payment platform for Fedoracoin coming
Post by: robin007bond on January 05, 2014, 02:51:10 PM
Looks great!


Title: Re: Payment platform for Fedoracoin coming
Post by: Fozy on January 05, 2014, 03:09:35 PM
raise fedora !
currency with much potential !

give it the value it deserves !

Would it be possible to integrate this in to a Facebook app?  The major hurdle for cryptos is to actually be used as a currency rather than a  speculative commodity. Introducing TIPS as a form of currency within the Facebook community could be effective.


Title: Re: Payment platform for Fedoracoin coming
Post by: withfedoraco.in on January 05, 2014, 03:14:49 PM
Sneak preview of the developer dashboard!

https://i.imgur.com/koaXKL0.png (http://imgur.com/koaXKL0)


Title: Re: Payment platform for Fedoracoin coming
Post by: withfedoraco.in on January 05, 2014, 03:24:31 PM
Would it be possible to integrate this in to a Facebook app?  The major hurdle for cryptos is to actually be used as a currency rather than a  speculative commodity. Introducing TIPS as a form of currency within the Facebook community could be effective.

No problem, we have lots of experience with Facebook apps.
What did you have in mind?


Title: Re: Payment platform for Fedoracoin coming
Post by: novaboy2k on January 06, 2014, 06:00:39 PM
How's the payment platform coming on? Does it work well?


Title: Re: Payment platform for Fedoracoin coming
Post by: lx001 on January 06, 2014, 09:48:14 PM
is there any reason why this coin could be unsuccessful?

what a great contribution. do you accept any donations?


Title: Re: Payment platform for Fedoracoin coming
Post by: Fozy on January 06, 2014, 10:16:59 PM
I envision a TIPS wallet within Facebook. Could we also allow the app to mine?  That would be awesome. Obviously, that would bring so many more people in to using TIPS.

Allowing everyday people to participate in the mining process is key to achieving actual utilization. If people could do this through Facebook, a mobile app or an easy to use client it would be huge!  Ultimately, the focus needs to be on the user.

It may be too late to integrate these things into this coin.  


Title: Re: Payment platform for Fedoracoin coming
Post by: withfedoraco.in on January 06, 2014, 10:24:45 PM
How's the payment platform coming on? Does it work well?

Development is currently on-going.

is there any reason why this coin could be unsuccessful?

what a great contribution. do you accept any donations?

We'll post an address soon

I envision a TIPS wallet within Facebook. Could we also allow the app to mine?  That would be awesome. Obviously, that would bring so many more people in to using TIPS.

Allowing everyday people to participate in the mining process is key to achieving actual utilization. If people could do this through Facebook, a mobile app or an easy to use client it would be huge!  Ultimately, the focus needs to be on the user.

It may be too late to integrate these things into this coin. 

JavaScript mining would be terribly ineffective, probably below 1kh/s
A TIPS wallet within Facebook would be possible, we might pick this up as a next project.


Title: Re: Payment platform for Fedoracoin coming
Post by: Fozy on January 06, 2014, 11:04:04 PM

That would be pretty cool to see in action.

1kh/s. That would be terribly inefficient.  Allowing people to mine through a facebook or mobile is more about creating a way to get coins to them.  Everyday people aren't going to buy this coin, (or any coin for that matter) at least at first. So, having them "mining" is not really about mining at all, it's about engaging them in the network and making them a user. They wouldn't be doing any substantive mining-- but they would be participating in the network and earning coins. Up to this point cryptos have been all about the miners and speculators-- I think the everyday person is overlooked in the current paradigm of cryptos. That will eventually change.


Title: Re: Payment platform for Fedoracoin coming
Post by: withfedoraco.in on January 07, 2014, 11:50:28 AM
So, having them "mining" is not really about mining at all, it's about engaging them in the network and making them a user.

Wouldn't a faucet accomplish this more efficiently?
I'd be hard to actually get shares in with that hashrate.


Title: Re: Payment platform for Fedoracoin coming
Post by: withfedoraco.in on January 08, 2014, 12:31:26 PM
Quick update for those subscribed to this thread: we're almost done with the developer dashboard and we will be accepting developers soon.
After that, we'll incrementally roll out features of the platform and their respective docs.

Btw, if you'd like to show your support of w/, you can do that by visiting the site.
We check the number of hits daily and if we see a lot of people are interested, our morale goes up and we'll work harder!


Title: Re: Payment platform for Fedoracoin coming
Post by: Fozy on January 08, 2014, 12:46:45 PM
Quick update for those subscribed to this thread: we're almost done with the developer dashboard and we will be accepting developers soon.
After that, we'll incrementally roll out features of the platform and their respective docs.

Btw, if you'd like to show your support of w/, you can do that by visiting the site.
We check the number of hits daily and if we see a lot of people are interested, our morale goes up and we'll work harder!

You're putting all this work into this payment system for a coin that has no development support.  It looks like (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=391192.180 ) the developer started this thread on 12/30 but has since vanished. 





Title: Re: Payment platform for Fedoracoin coming
Post by: withfedoraco.in on January 08, 2014, 12:50:24 PM
You're putting all this work into this payment system for a coin that has no development support.  It looks like (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=391192.180 ) the developer started this thread on 12/30 but has since vanished. 

We've spoken with the developer on numerous occasions.
While we haven't seen him around lately, we've began adding some features we were missing to our own fork of fedoracoin.

I don't see why it would be relevant that the dev is no longer active.
We're a team of developers, we support this coin.


Title: Re: Payment platform for Fedoracoin coming
Post by: Fozy on January 08, 2014, 01:04:45 PM
You're putting all this work into this payment system for a coin that has no development support.  It looks like (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=391192.180 ) the developer started this thread on 12/30 but has since vanished. 

We've spoken with the developer on numerous occasions.
While we haven't seen him around lately, we've began adding some features we were missing to our own fork of fedoracoin.

I don't see why it would be relevant that the dev is no longer active.
We're a team of developers, we support this coin.

I think you should post this in the main forum.  And also clarify what you mean by "support".  Client updates?


Title: Re: Payment platform for Fedoracoin coming
Post by: quarkkid on January 13, 2014, 08:29:11 PM
So has release been pushed back then?...im patiently waiting, although to be honest, unless you ,or another bunch of guys take over this coin and pretty soon, there will be NO hope for your payment platform as the coin will die before you can say "shit-coin"! This is coming from someone that's wasted a lot of hashpower on this crap so far with not a cent in return...and your payment platform seems like the only small ray of hope shining out of this so called coin. i really do hope someone can make this happen as i still have a tiny bit of faith (not sure why), but invisibel has has abandoned the project and hope is slowly dwindling.... :-\


Title: Re: Payment platform for Fedoracoin coming
Post by: withfedoraco.in on January 13, 2014, 08:40:00 PM
We are now open to developer registration!

Please go to http://dashboard.withfedoraco.in/ to register your developer account.
Once you do that, you can start reading our documentation and see development progress.

If you have any questions, please let me know.
Don't forget to check out http://pay.withfedoraco.in/ to find out what this is all about.


Title: Re: Payment platform for Fedoracoin coming
Post by: quarkkid on January 13, 2014, 09:41:34 PM
wow...that was quick lol...im checking it out now!!  ;)


Title: Re: Payment platform for Fedoracoin coming
Post by: withfedoraco.in on January 13, 2014, 09:47:57 PM
Don't be so quick to disregard us :)

We've had some other projects sneak time away from w/ last week, but after this week we should be able to devote more and more time to making it the best payment platform yet.


Title: Re: Payment platform for Fedoracoin coming
Post by: quarkkid on January 13, 2014, 10:05:01 PM
i never had any doubt about u guys, its more the dev im concearned about..and yes i know u said that ur supporting it...but unless an official  change over is made, i dont think the community is gona hold out for too much longer....mabey some investors- but most of the miners are just dumping their TIPS on sight. Anyways, enough moaning and lets hope something great will come of this!  :)


Title: Re: Payment platform for Fedoracoin coming
Post by: networthsigns on January 14, 2014, 05:10:34 PM
You need dedicated support system for people who would like to see tips on payment platforms.

Create active blockchain with developer friendly api.

And do all the needed things as btc have.

Good luck

Thanks


Title: Re: Payment platform for Fedoracoin coming
Post by: theking7426 on January 14, 2014, 05:21:51 PM
i never had any doubt about u guys, its more the dev im concearned about..and yes i know u said that ur supporting it...but unless an official  change over is made, i dont think the community is gona hold out for too much longer....mabey some investors- but most of the miners are just dumping their TIPS on sight. Anyways, enough moaning and lets hope something great will come of this!  :)

I will actively support the coin as much as possible as long as withfedoracoin exists and is also putting in time.
We can keep it alive as a community. People need to stop settling at such low prices.



Title: Re: Payment platform for Fedoracoin coming
Post by: PinkPotatos on January 14, 2014, 05:27:24 PM
Quick update for those subscribed to this thread: we're almost done with the developer dashboard and we will be accepting developers soon.
After that, we'll incrementally roll out features of the platform and their respective docs.

Btw, if you'd like to show your support of w/, you can do that by visiting the site.
We check the number of hits daily and if we see a lot of people are interested, our morale goes up and we'll work harder!

Looks great!


Title: Re: Payment platform for Fedoracoin coming
Post by: Nthused on January 14, 2014, 07:08:38 PM
Hopefully we see TIPS on Cryptsy one day :)


Title: Re: Payment platform for Fedoracoin coming
Post by: mymenace on January 14, 2014, 07:25:31 PM
Great work with the payment processor exactly what businesses need to start using this great coin


Title: Re: Payment platform for Fedoracoin coming
Post by: withfedoraco.in on January 15, 2014, 08:40:45 AM
Thanks for your support, guys!


Title: Re: Payment platform for Fedoracoin coming
Post by: withfedoraco.in on January 18, 2014, 11:45:00 PM
Guys, a quick teaser update from us to let you know that we're still active.

We're done with the first version of the actual payment processing.
It's still a bit rough-cut, but the proof of concept very much works.

In the first screenshot below, you can see our server logs just after the server got a payment to the inbox account of user 'test'.
https://i.imgur.com/0XW3nUE.png
That payment has not yet been confirmed, but we're logging it as 'seen'.

This way we can notify users of the Javascript Client-side payment flow (http://dashboard.withfedoraco.in/docs/payment_flows/) through the use of websockets that we've received their transaction almost immediately after they've clicked send.

In the next screenshot, you can see the logs at a later time:
https://i.imgur.com/KGAbqqx.png
First, there has been one block since we received the first transaction, but said transaction was not in that block.
The next block did contain our transaction, so we detected that the transaction was now confirmed one time.

At that point, the balance is moved from the 'inbox' of user test to the wallet of user test.
Now, the balance will show up as 'unconfirmed' on the user's dashboard.

With each following block the transaction is confirmed more and after a certain threshold (settable by the site owner) the transaction becomes 'verified' and w/ Fedoracoin issues a callback to the website that the purchase was made on.
The transaction is now complete for the user, and they get the item they paid for.

After an additional number of transactions (we're still debating the exact number, but a payment processor should be reliable and actively battle double-spending) the balance becomes confirmed and user 'test' can withdraw the balance to a Fedoracoin address.

That's it for now folks!

Don't forget to visit the site/bump our threads if you want to support us!
If you have a reddit account, we'd appreciate it if you would help with spreading the word.


Title: Re: Payment platform for Fedoracoin coming
Post by: theking7426 on January 20, 2014, 06:30:14 PM
We have to promote the shit out of this, the more people that see it the more people are amazed. It is a matter of exposure. Let's get this to the world.



Title: Re: Payment platform for Fedoracoin coming
Post by: Fozy on January 21, 2014, 12:40:49 AM
We have to promote the shit out of this, the more people that see it the more people are amazed. It is a matter of exposure. Let's get this to the world.



Indeed!  We should be sure that the beta application is ready before we start pushing it.  We don't want people tuning in too early and seeing something that's not ready for primetime.


Title: Re: Payment platform for Fedoracoin coming
Post by: Nthused on January 24, 2014, 04:29:42 PM
Go FedoraCoin !


Title: Re: Payment platform for Fedoracoin coming
Post by: st0ned on January 24, 2014, 04:44:19 PM
Awesome work guys! The payment platform is awesome and Fedora is on the rise!


Title: Re: Payment platform for Fedoracoin coming
Post by: Fozy on January 24, 2014, 05:23:39 PM
Awesome work guys! The payment platform is awesome and Fedora is on the rise!

Excellent job!


Title: Re: Payment platform for Fedoracoin coming
Post by: theking7426 on January 26, 2014, 10:08:42 PM
Sign up to check out the developer dashboard guys. This is getting big, and dončt forget to check out the new logo.


Title: Re: Payment platform for Fedoracoin coming
Post by: scottjv on January 27, 2014, 01:59:26 AM
Hey all, TIPS on cryptsy right now!  :o


Title: Re: Payment platform for Fedoracoin coming
Post by: withfedoraco.in on January 27, 2014, 01:30:10 PM
[Note: This update was first posted on G+: https://plus.google.com/114816033975093735144/posts, follow us there to stay up to date]

Time for a sneak peek! Now that we're done with the REST API flow, we're working on the next one: the simple client-sided flow (http://dashboard.withfedoraco.in/docs/payment_flows/simple_client).

These screenshots show what happens when a user gets redirected to our dialog to make a payment, much like how +PayPal does it.

https://i.imgur.com/KQtOMQd.png

This is what a user sees when he/she opens the pay link

https://i.imgur.com/5MbK8Gb.png

Once the payment has been sent, we show this screen immediately

https://i.imgur.com/yCSto1u.png

When we get a confirmation from the network, we show the user the progress

https://i.imgur.com/YJwsbsO.png

Once the desired number of confirmations has been reached, the user can continue


Title: Re: Payment platform for Fedoracoin coming
Post by: Nthused on February 03, 2014, 02:35:19 PM
That's some Classy stuff right there !


Title: Re: Payment platform for Fedoracoin coming
Post by: withfedoraco.in on February 03, 2014, 04:18:51 PM
Thanks, we're really proud of it :)

As soon as the network health improves we'll be able to provide a lot of sites with Fedoracoin payment processing!