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Title: Official R9 Graphics Card Voltage Locked/Unlocked list
Post by: Gazza1 on January 03, 2014, 03:23:48 AM
Post the cards you know for a fact are voltage locked and voltage unlocked.  Either confirmed from your own testing, or from what someone else has shown you as a fact.  

You may all post and I will update this main post every so often with your results until the list is complete.

Any R9 graphics card is fine.  If you want to include last year's 7000 series we can do that too.

I'll start with a couple on the list are confirmed personally by me.

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Unlocked:
290  Gigabyte R9-290 1.047 (AB 13.17 beta)    845kh/s
290  XFX R9-290A      1.047 (AB 13.17 beta)    845kh/s
280x Sapphire OC 100363BF4L,
280x Asus R9280X-DC2T-3GD5, R9280X-DC2-3GD5
280x XFX all
280x MSI Gamers Edition
290x XFX ENFC 835Kh/s @ 860/1250 -25mV
270 Asus 1.100/1030/1400 = 440 kh 7 days stable.  120 W draw per card

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7970 MSI 7970L/BE 755KH/s @ 1080/1500 1.119mV
7970 MSI 7970L 606-V278 645KH/s @ 840/1600 1.056mV
7970 Sapphire OC 100351SR,
7950 Sapphire OC 100352-3L,
7950 MSI TF3GD5/OCBE
7990 MSI 6GD5

Locked:
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Locked within software but VBE7 BIOS moddable:
280x Sapphire Toxic 100363TXSR
280x Gigabyte GV-R928XOC-3GD  1.09/1025/1500     725kh/s
270 Gigabyte at 1.043V and hashing at 475 Kh/s and 445 Kh/s
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7950 Gigabyte GV-R795WF3-3GD  1.09/1133/1250     700kh/s
7970 VTX3D X-edition

--I'm starting to wonder if most new cards can now be modified thanks to VBE7 :)


Here are links to VBE7 & more instructions (download is at the first link in the bottom of the first post)
To the guys who made VBE7 "Darkhmz, DroiDMester, & whoever else"; you guys rule and many thanks  8) ;D
http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/vbe7-vbios-editor-for-radeon-hd-7000-series-cards.189089/
http://rumorscity.com/2013/12/09/how-to-modify-video-bios-to-undervolt-gpu-in-linux/


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 ;D 8)


Title: Re: Official R9 Graphics Card Voltage Locked/Unlocked list
Post by: Wipeout2097 on January 03, 2014, 03:56:46 AM
Locked but BIOS moddable: vtx3d 7970 X-edition

https://i.imgur.com/NWVqREY.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/ycrOFhp.png


Title: Re: Official R9 Graphics Card Voltage Locked/Unlocked list
Post by: Gazza1 on January 03, 2014, 04:21:06 AM
Thanks :)


Title: Re: Official R9 Graphics Card Voltage Locked/Unlocked list
Post by: symzzi on January 03, 2014, 01:11:12 PM
MSI R7950-TF3GD5/OCBE unlocked

MSI R7990-6GD5 voltage unlocked using afterburner beta 13.11


Title: Re: Official R9 Graphics Card Voltage Locked/Unlocked list
Post by: surivrox on January 04, 2014, 09:00:49 AM
SAPPHIRE RADEON R9 280X OC (11221-00-25G)
ASUS R9 280X (R9280X-DC2T-3GD5)
Club3D Radeon R9 280X 3GB RoyalKing CoolStream (CGAX-R928X7O)

Anyone?


Title: Re: Official R9 Graphics Card Voltage Locked/Unlocked list
Post by: DrJimmy on January 04, 2014, 03:47:17 PM
The Sapphire Toxic 280x can be bios modified to lower the voltage.


Title: Re: Official R9 Graphics Card Voltage Locked/Unlocked list
Post by: Quix on January 05, 2014, 04:54:29 AM
Club3D Radeon R9 280X 3GB RoyalQueen CoolStream - Unlocked

Personal experience, I have a couple of these.


Title: Re: Official R9 Graphics Card Voltage Locked/Unlocked list
Post by: jimmothy on January 05, 2014, 06:05:41 AM
What exactly does underclocking voltage do? I assume increased efficiency at the cost of hashrate.

Will a locked card get less hashrate?


Title: Re: Official R9 Graphics Card Voltage Locked/Unlocked list
Post by: logicus on January 05, 2014, 06:15:51 AM
Unlocked:
Gigabyte R9-290 1.047 (AB 13.17 beta)    845kh/s
XFX R9-290A      1.047 (AB 13.17 beta)    845kh/s

Locked but VBE7 BIOS moddable:
Gigabyte GV-R795WF3-3GD     1.09/1133/1250     700kh/s
280x Gigabyte GV-R928XOC-3GD  1.09/1025/1500     725kh/s
Confirmed personally by me (my rigs)


Most of 7950,7970 and 280X are VBE7 BIOS moddable :)

Less voltage , less heat , less electricity bill :)


Title: Re: Official R9 Graphics Card Voltage Locked/Unlocked list
Post by: crazyates on January 05, 2014, 10:56:56 PM
Thanks for this thread!

Locked:
280x Gigabyte GV-R928XOC-3GD

Locked within software but VBE7 BIOS moddable:
280x Gigabyte GV-R928XOC-3GD  1.09/1025/1500     725kh/s

So this card can be edited? I'm getting 6 in tomorrow, so I'll be reflashing them.

I'm also getting some PowerColor AXR9 290 4GBD5-MDHG/OC (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131544) cards in, so I'll check those.


Title: Re: Official R9 Graphics Card Voltage Locked/Unlocked list
Post by: Gazza1 on January 05, 2014, 11:27:17 PM
Updated

Cheers guys :D


Title: Re: Official R9 Graphics Card Voltage Locked/Unlocked list
Post by: Littleshop on January 06, 2014, 04:03:17 AM
What exactly does underclocking voltage do? I assume increased efficiency at the cost of hashrate.

Will a locked card get less hashrate?

Unlocked voltage means you can lower the voltage (to a degree) with zero loss of hashrate.  You save power and create less heat.   How low you can go varies even on the same exact model, kind of the luck of the draw.  Go to low and the card will crash.

A locked card simply means you have to live with the voltage that the factory has set for a specific speed so you can't lower it to save power. 


Title: Re: Official R9 Graphics Card Voltage Locked/Unlocked list
Post by: oroqen on January 08, 2014, 09:59:33 PM
Nice too see,
I have Asus 280x both the TOP(R9280X-DC2T-3GD5) and normal(R9280X-DC2-3GD5) editions are both unlocked.


Title: Re: Official R9 Graphics Card Voltage Locked/Unlocked list
Post by: Friesje on January 10, 2014, 03:42:56 PM
MSI R9 280x Gamers Edition = voltage locked


Title: Re: Official R9 Graphics Card Voltage Locked/Unlocked list
Post by: Amph on January 15, 2014, 09:29:28 PM
The Sapphire Toxic 280x can be bios modified to lower the voltage.
how?


Title: Re: Official R9 Graphics Card Voltage Locked/Unlocked list
Post by: Gazza1 on January 15, 2014, 09:45:47 PM
The Sapphire Toxic 280x can be bios modified to lower the voltage.
how?

VBE7.  I can confirm it does work on the 280x toxic as I also did it yesterday.  I'm starting to wonder if most new cards can now be modified.  I made this thread before I knew about doing so.

http://rumorscity.com/2013/12/09/how-to-modify-video-bios-to-undervolt-gpu-in-linux/
http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/vbe7-vbios-editor-for-radeon-hd-7000-series-cards.189089/


Title: Re: Official R9 Graphics Card Voltage Locked/Unlocked list
Post by: Amph on January 15, 2014, 09:52:11 PM
The Sapphire Toxic 280x can be bios modified to lower the voltage.
how?

VBE7.  I can confirm it does work on the 280x toxic as I also did it yesterday.  I'm starting to wonder if most new cards can now be modified.  I made this thread before I knew about doing so.

http://rumorscity.com/2013/12/09/how-to-modify-video-bios-to-undervolt-gpu-in-linux/
http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/vbe7-vbios-editor-for-radeon-hd-7000-series-cards.189089/


no dl link


Title: Re: Official R9 Graphics Card Voltage Locked/Unlocked list
Post by: dasource on January 15, 2014, 09:58:05 PM
On linux what are you guys using with "unlocked" GPUs to alter voltage? atitweak?


Title: Re: Official R9 Graphics Card Voltage Locked/Unlocked list
Post by: Gazza1 on January 15, 2014, 11:24:28 PM
On linux what are you guys using with "unlocked" GPUs to alter voltage? atitweak?

A lot of guys just do it in cgminer with; --gpu-vddc 1100 or whatever voltage.

I have to say though, after reflashing all my cards with VBE7 I will forever do it this way from now on.  It's rock solid and you never have to worry about messing with it in software as the software doesn't always do it right and isn't always reliable.


To the guys who made VBE7 "Darkhmz, DroiDMester, & whoever else"; you guys rule and many thanks  8) ;D
http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/vbe7-vbios-editor-for-radeon-hd-7000-series-cards.189089/



The Sapphire Toxic 280x can be bios modified to lower the voltage.
how?

VBE7.  I can confirm it does work on the 280x toxic as I also did it yesterday.  I'm starting to wonder if most new cards can now be modified.  I made this thread before I knew about doing so.

http://rumorscity.com/2013/12/09/how-to-modify-video-bios-to-undervolt-gpu-in-linux/
http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/vbe7-vbios-editor-for-radeon-hd-7000-series-cards.189089/


no dl link

The links are at the end of the 1st post on the page, they aren't easily seen at first glance.
http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/attachments/vbe7-0-0-7b-exe.52628/


Title: Re: Official R9 Graphics Card Voltage Locked/Unlocked list
Post by: Amph on January 16, 2014, 07:05:20 AM
there is a guide for this?


Title: Re: Official R9 Graphics Card Voltage Locked/Unlocked list
Post by: Gazza1 on January 17, 2014, 11:07:09 PM
Has anyone tried VBE7 on the R9 290 Reference cards?


Title: Re: Official R9 Graphics Card Voltage Locked/Unlocked list
Post by: jhk753 on January 18, 2014, 12:12:07 AM
Same question here for R9 290.
Plus I'm in linux and CGminer doesn't show voltage on my card. But if I try to change the voltage, it says that driver accepted but doesn't show any change on cgminer outputs.

I'm not near my rig so I can't check the wall plug, but what do you think it means ? Is CGminer capable of undervolting in Linux with latest beta driver ?


Title: Re: Official R9 Graphics Card Voltage Locked/Unlocked list
Post by: codon on January 23, 2014, 03:16:09 AM
No one has mentioned the 270's yet.  Here's my experience:

Asus R9 270 : Unlocked.  1.100/1030/1400 = 440 kh 7 days stable.  120 W draw per card

Gigabyte R9 270: VOLTAGE LOCKED!  >:( Tried 1.100v and 1.150v in VBE7, flashed BIOS, no errors, but the cards hang on boot when X starts.  Running stock, these cards draw 30w more per card than the Asus 270's, for a just a slight 10 kh improvement.

On top of that the Asus cards are quieter and cooler.


Title: Re: Official R9 Graphics Card Voltage Locked/Unlocked list
Post by: gallzzy on January 27, 2014, 06:17:35 AM
Sapphire Tri-X R9 280X (SKU : 11221-08-40G) VOLTAGE LOCKED! 

VBE7, modify the legacy BIOS no error, but it can't even reopen it, ERROR!
Of course system hangs with the modified BIOS. 

This card is terrible for mining. It draws 450 W at stock voltage.
On the box, it said use 750 W for one card.
I am stuck with 3 of this KW hungry monsters!



Title: Re: Official R9 Graphics Card Voltage Locked/Unlocked list
Post by: G K G on January 27, 2014, 06:37:47 AM
Sapphire Tri-X R9 280X (SKU : 11221-08-40G) VOLTAGE LOCKED! 

VBE7, modify the legacy BIOS no error, but it can't even reopen it, ERROR!
Of course system hangs with the modified BIOS. 

This card is terrible for mining. It draws 450 W at stock voltage.
On the box, it said use 750 W for one card.
I am stuck with 3 of this KW hungry monsters!



oooooh! pity. when i bought my vaporX i was tempted to buy those, all fancy with three fans. only the price diff saved me.  ;)


Title: Re: Official R9 Graphics Card Voltage Locked/Unlocked list
Post by: broken_pixel on January 27, 2014, 08:09:59 AM
Add to unlocked:

XFX 290X- R9- 290X- ENFC 835Kh/s @ 860/1250 -25mV
MSI 7970L- 606-V278 645KH/s @ 840/1600 1.056mV
MSI 7970L/BE in RMA forgot model # 755KH/s @ 1080/1500 1.119mV


Title: Re: Official R9 Graphics Card Voltage Locked/Unlocked list
Post by: jorm1s on February 02, 2014, 08:52:16 PM
Sapphire r9 280x Vapor-x

Was unable to undervolt in afterburner but trixx and VBE7 worked great.

Now stable in my BAMT rig @ 750kh/s, 1080/1500, 1075mV
About a 70w drop in power draw per card ;)

EDIT: exact version of the gpu is R9 280X Vapor-x 11221-02-40G


Title: Re: Official R9 Graphics Card Voltage Locked/Unlocked list
Post by: Wipeout2097 on February 02, 2014, 09:19:05 PM
Gigabyte R9 270: VOLTAGE LOCKED!  >:( Tried 1.100v and 1.150v in VBE7, flashed BIOS, no errors, but the cards hang on boot when X starts.  Running stock, these cards draw 30w more per card than the Asus 270's, for a just a slight 10 kh improvement.
Gigabyte R9 270: Modable with VBE7

I'm running 2 at 1.043V and hashing at 475 Kh/s and 445 Kh/s on W7 and Catalyst 13.12 without any issues. Hanging on boot on your rig or OS installation is no evidence whatsoever that they are voltage locked. Perhaps you forgot to set also a lower clock speed on VBE7


Title: Re: Official R9 Graphics Card Voltage Locked/Unlocked list
Post by: Gazza1 on February 02, 2014, 11:07:41 PM
Updated, Good job guys :D


Title: Re: Official R9 Graphics Card Voltage Locked/Unlocked list
Post by: G K G on February 03, 2014, 06:58:55 PM
Asus r9 280x DC2T 1100mV with Asus GPU tweak - thats the lowest it allows.

At stock voltage(1200mV) the temp gets too hot and goes beyond 85. But at 1.1V it gives 753Kh/s at 71 C


Title: Re: Official R9 Graphics Card Voltage Locked/Unlocked list
Post by: Gazza1 on February 03, 2014, 09:28:43 PM
How about the 280x MSI?  Anybody have any VBE7 results to report?  One guy around here was reporting he couldn't get the voltage to change even after flashing the modded bios.  Anyone have anything different to report?


Title: Re: Official R9 Graphics Card Voltage Locked/Unlocked list
Post by: whoopdee on February 04, 2014, 04:21:33 AM
No one has mentioned the 270's yet.  Here's my experience:

Asus R9 270 : Unlocked.  1.100/1030/1400 = 440 kh 7 days stable.  120 W draw per card

Gigabyte R9 270: VOLTAGE LOCKED!  >:( Tried 1.100v and 1.150v in VBE7, flashed BIOS, no errors, but the cards hang on boot when X starts.  Running stock, these cards draw 30w more per card than the Asus 270's, for a just a slight 10 kh improvement.

On top of that the Asus cards are quieter and cooler.

Quote
Same question here for R9 290.
Plus I'm in linux and CGminer doesn't show voltage on my card. But if I try to change the voltage, it says that driver accepted but doesn't show any change on cgminer outputs.


i have some asus R9 270(non x)s with the cuII cooler or whatever...  same.. when i enter in values running, or spec them in cgminer config, it still displays in as original volts, but doesnt report any failure, also heat and hash are unaffected.

its there some trick to dropping the voltage with these?            linux.


Title: Re: Official R9 Graphics Card Voltage Locked/Unlocked list
Post by: jorm1s on February 04, 2014, 09:54:42 PM
i have some asus R9 270(non x)s with the cuII cooler or whatever...  same.. when i enter in values running, or spec them in cgminer config, it still displays in as original volts, but doesnt report any failure, also heat and hash are unaffected.

its there some trick to dropping the voltage with these?            linux.

Unfortunately the amd drivers in linux don't allow you to modify the voltages through software.

BUT there is a guide linked in the main post that makes it pretty easy to do the undervolting via modifying the card's bios.


Title: Re: Official R9 Graphics Card Voltage Locked/Unlocked list
Post by: metraque on February 06, 2014, 07:34:51 AM
I have an Asus R9 280x DC2T and I was able to modify the voltage via cgminer (or vertminer) on linux, but I wasn't with an MSI R9 280X GAMING 3G (not sure of the model). Does it means that software undervolting is possible?

Thanks!


Title: Re: Official R9 Graphics Card Voltage Locked/Unlocked list
Post by: davzilla on February 24, 2014, 03:02:05 AM
Sapphire Tri-X R9 280X (SKU : 11221-08-40G) VOLTAGE LOCKED!  

VBE7, modify the legacy BIOS no error, but it can't even reopen it, ERROR!
Of course system hangs with the modified BIOS.  

This card is terrible for mining. It draws 450 W at stock voltage.
On the box, it said use 750 W for one card.
I am stuck with 3 of this KW hungry monsters!



i just flashed my 2 Sapphire 280x Toxics using VBE7, i flashed the UEFI bios though (press the button near the crossfire connector so it lights up blue), not the legacy, works fine both cards stable at ~750kh/s each @ 1.1v. I might try dropping the voltage further, but pretty happy with the results at 1.1v

also my whole system was only drawing ~525w running windows off an SSD, might be lower now that i'm running linux bamt 1.3 off a USB 3.0 drive. My PSU is a Corsair AX860i, mobo is asus M5A99X Evo R2.0 with a Sempron 145 CPU.

the hardware comparison guide says they only draw 253w eac, and that's about what i'm seeing, not sure what's up with your system.


Title: Re: Official R9 Graphics Card Voltage Locked/Unlocked list
Post by: busminer on March 05, 2014, 11:53:04 PM
davzilla
Can you post you bios hare or send it to me ? i have same card but dont now what settings in VBE7 should i change?thanks.


Title: Re: Official R9 Graphics Card Voltage Locked/Unlocked list
Post by: Stan-O on March 06, 2014, 10:40:13 PM
No one has mentioned the 270's yet.  Here's my experience:

Asus R9 270 : Unlocked.  1.100/1030/1400 = 440 kh 7 days stable.  120 W draw per card

Gigabyte R9 270: VOLTAGE LOCKED!  >:( Tried 1.100v and 1.150v in VBE7, flashed BIOS, no errors, but the cards hang on boot when X starts.  Running stock, these cards draw 30w more per card than the Asus 270's, for a just a slight 10 kh improvement.

On top of that the Asus cards are quieter and cooler.

that's odd.  my gigabyte 270's undervolt just fine.  i went down to 1.131 using VBE7.  They now run 10-15c cooler than stock.
no hanging, no errors.  same 480-485KH hashrate, as they did with stock voltage.  1130/1500  tc-15232 -I 19   -g 1  -w 128

btw... someone needs to update VBE7 to run on Win8.1.  sucks having to have a win7 VM just to play with GPU BIOS.


Title: Re: Official R9 Graphics Card Voltage Locked/Unlocked list
Post by: machasm on March 07, 2014, 05:38:45 PM
The MSI TF Gaming 280x cards CANNOT be modifed at this point in time (very limited voltage modding allowed as described below).
Although it would appear that using VBE7 and atiflash looks like it changes the voltage (shows in GPU-Z and in cgminer as new lower voltage), If measured on the card you will find no change.
This is true for card versions 3SB and above (2SB cards can be modified in this way).
The only voltage that does work is 0.943 V (Dont ask me why?).
The only drawback with this voltage is that you wont be able to hash anywhere near 700K you might get 650K at best.
So until MSI release an editable BIOS (if ever) or another tool is created that can edit it we are stuffed!
I have 3 X 3SB cards and 1 X 2SB card.
You may want to update the OP to reflect that these cards are not unlocked.


Title: Re: Official R9 Graphics Card Voltage Locked/Unlocked list
Post by: Stan-O on March 10, 2014, 08:22:36 PM
for Linux under volting, here's the guide to UV vias BIOS.  BIOS reflashing is the only way i've heard of undervolting being done when using linux.  cgminer/bfgminer/vertminer let you make the changes, but the changes dont stick.

here's the link.  http://www.cryptobadger.com/2013/10/undervolting-in-linux-via-modified-bios/#more-767 (http://www.cryptobadger.com/2013/10/undervolting-in-linux-via-modified-bios/#more-767)

VBE7  requires windows 7.  it will open on win8/8.1, but you cannot make any changes.  i tried.  doesnt work.  lol



Title: Re: Official R9 Graphics Card Voltage Locked/Unlocked list
Post by: sueche on March 11, 2014, 02:20:22 AM
The MSI TF Gaming 280x cards CANNOT be modifed at this point in time (very limited voltage modding allowed as described below).
Although it would appear that using VBE7 and atiflash looks like it changes the voltage (shows in GPU-Z and in cgminer as new lower voltage), If measured on the card you will find no change.
This is true for card versions 3SB and above (2SB cards can be modified in this way).
The only voltage that does work is 0.943 V (Dont ask me why?).
The only drawback with this voltage is that you wont be able to hash anywhere near 700K you might get 650K at best.
So until MSI release an editable BIOS (if ever) or another tool is created that can edit it we are stuffed!
I have 3 X 3SB cards and 1 X 2SB card.
You may want to update the OP to reflect that these cards are not unlocked.

Have you seen this (http://rumorscity.com/2013/12/20/radeon-r9-280x-litecoin-mining-and-sweet-spot-for-700khashsec-part-2/) article
and this (http://rumorscity.com/2013/12/12/msi-r9-280x-bios-update-to-fix-overheating-and-vrm-temperatures/) one too ?


Title: Re: Official R9 Graphics Card Voltage Locked/Unlocked list
Post by: pekv2 on May 03, 2014, 04:15:07 AM
This one is unlocked. I installed trixx, I am able to up or down the voltage.
SAPPHIRE 100363L Radeon R9 280X 3GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202046