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Let's try!

LOL, so the person who sends the most money to you is the winner? Sounds legit.

Hehe, a fool and his money are soon parted comes readily to mind...

Honestly, since this is the Newbie section often specifically targeted by such "services", IMHO it actually deserves its own Scam/Trash cleaner Mod to protect all-but-too gullible beginners.

Not me. I get only 1% after the winner.

I'm betting you'll get 100% and there will be no winner.

I am interested in the mechanism of the game. Although I understand your skepticism.

The mechanism of the game is to line your own pockets with other people's money.

And let's check? I will prove that I'm not going to run away with all the money. Now is the initial transaction with 0.0001 BTC.

The mechanism is people send you money and you keep it all.

How are you going to prove anything here?

I meant more. What amount will be a turning point - at what amount will stop the transactions.


If at least one game to happen - you will see. Give me a chance.

What do you mean  Now is the initial transaction with 0.0001 BTC?

The first transaction with 0.0001 BTC was made (blockchain.info (https://blockchain.info/address/16xLp9AKE9rFEEuaEbZUYpkUcaHkzKuyrP)).

Not fair, only the richest can win!
If it's not a scam it's a ponzi scheme! LOL

It is a ponzi, with only one winner. I'm also betting it's a straight-up scam, so it's both.

So...? Somebody makes a bigger bet and they win what? 99% of whatever they bet plus 0.0001BTC?

Somebody makes a bigger bet win 99% of all bitcoins on 16xLp9AKE9rFEEuaEbZUYpkUcaHkzKuyrP (including their transaction).

And what's to stop you just betting the highest amount at the end of the day? The only person who is going to win here is you.

Just send your bitcoins to the address in my sig instead. At least I'll be honest and say you'll never get it back. And stop posting your scams in the newbie forum, don't you feel the slightest bit guilty targetting newcomers?

Do scammers ever? Well, unless they get doxxed then they miraculously have a change of heart.

Where is the end of the day? 24 hours measured from the time a transaction. Anyone can make a bigger bid.


Since I'm a newbie - I could not post it in Gambling.

if you wan do this you need escrow :)

Eh? So it's not a daily draw? It's just one massive pyramid scheme until nobody can afford to go any higher then after 24 hours the highest is the winner and you get 1%. Lol, go away.

Mods, why is this even allowed here?

Everything is exactly. But what confuses you in the rules?

I'm confused why you're still here trying to peddle this half-assed pyramid scam.

Wait, couldn't you look at blockchain.info and see how much has been put in, and then just put in more to win?  but then people could keep doing that to give oyu more and more, and then you'll run away.

You need to set a drop dead time/date.

It will completely change the meaning of the game. I'll be glad to 1% and subsequent games.

Why does he need to set a timelimit on his crappy pyramid scam?

Here's one: People pay money and eventually they all get scammed and OP has whatever's been paid to him.

There is a time/date: 24 hours after the last bet.

If timelimit is set people will try to make a bet right before the end of the game. And the winner will be determined by speed.

Hmm mmm but you need some sort of time limit or people will think it's a scam, with no end in sight.  Maybe a range or somethin

I agree, some uncertainty may discourage. But I'm sure the games will be short-lived because of the fear of big bets.

People already think it's a scam.

Fixed it for you.

Why would OP put a time limit on when he can just keep it going for as long as he can?

What are you so aggressive? Let's run one game, and you will see how it works and that it is not a scam.

Because we don't like scammers. And how long is one 'game' going to last?

Depends on frequency and size of the transactions. The sooner reached a critical bet, the faster transactions will cease.

So one 'game' could go on all year. What's a critical bet exactly?

Ha, that's what he hopes.

When fear of losing the bet will outweigh of desire to win all bitcoins.

And that's the point where you keep the 1% and not the whole 100%, right?

I hope nobody else bets within 24 hours now.

I'm sure OP will send in another bet from himself to keep it going.

This is how a brain with 99% fried brain cells thinks.
The stupidest attempt for whatever this is, ever made.

Yes, I transfer 99% to the winner, and 1% itself.


This was the initial bet. Until further bets it makes no sense to pay winnings.

Wait I am sending 1.385 bitcoins in 10 mins.

What is the meaning? While only made ​​the initial bet (0.0001 BTC).

so what You wanna tell us is that it would only makes sense to send 0.0002 BTC?

Well, it's more sensibly to the risk/benefit.

and You will publish each last bet here? or will it be unknown for all participants?

Yes, I'll publish it. Although everything in sight on blockchain.info (https://blockchain.info/address/16xLp9AKE9rFEEuaEbZUYpkUcaHkzKuyrP).

Yeah, sorry bud but no-one is stupid enough to fall for your scam. Let's be realistic here, even if you were legit we have no assurances that you'll actually pay out when your meant to not to mention that your rules have grey areas and you have no trust on a newbie account...

Honestly, has anyone ever seen an advertised gambling offer that is truly fair/completely honest down to pure, unaltered luck with a mathematical correct chance to win in relation to investment ?

The operators of these make money (they have to), so gambling is always about carefully & invisibly tilting the table towards the bank. That's the dirty secret behind anything gambling, not much unlike a magician that makes his money fooling people's senses. It's all just about hiding their tricks and presentation/manipulating attention and perception.
I haven't seen a 100% legit/fair gambling service in my whole life and don't expect to ever see one. The most legit ones just skin their players a little enough so they don't feel it and return to the game.

And these "pay more and more to win" schemes are just among the most plain scams in existence ;)
(additionally, on the internet the whole thing becomes much more intransparent and easy to manipulate - in the special internet niche of Bitcoin the scam/skimming probability of ad-hoc/questionable offers is about 99% - which is a rather optimistic estimate)

One would have to be completely blind of greed or downright retarded to fall for such a simplistic scam. But all it takes is 1 out of 1000, that's what these scammers are looking for.
Maybe that's why scammer rhymes so well with spammer - both are looking for the occasional fool in the masses they can rip off.

This is actually somewhat similar to CoinBaller (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=291237.0)

I have played on CoinBaller before and they were honest with paying out bets. I guess we will have to wait and see how legit LastWinsAll is.

yes coinballer at least is only asking for a participation fee and the one with the most coins on his address will win. but still thats not a fair game IMHO. the winner will be the one with the most coins = the rich gets richer :(
the chance to win should be equal for all participants.

Yes, I have something like that, but with a lot of players.

FalconFly, I think the rules are crystal clear without "carefully & invisibly tilting the table".

It would make sense because he would pay out on this, then be all see, this isn't a scam, now send me the big money.

Even if OP was not a scam.
I could just watch on blockchain who ever send the highest ammount, and wait for the deadline and send a higher ammount and win

unfair game if you ask me

The deadline is 24 hours from the last best, so somebody could then just do that to you, and this is what the OP would want.

sounds unfair to me

It'll sound even unfairer when he doesn’t pay out  ;D

You understand that this will not continue indefinitely and bets will stop? And it will happen much faster than you imagine.

Ah, so it's just a one time thing?

No. After the distribution of 99%/1% to start a new game.

A one time scam more like  ;D.

guybrushthreepwood and hilariousandco, you are local trolls or what? I already wrote that after the first game everything will be clear about a scam or not.

No, but you look like the latest local scammer. It doesn't matter if you pay out on this first game or not. It's already been explained above how it works. Sure, you'll probably pay out on this tiny amount to look legit. Doubt you'd pay out your 1% BTC on a game that got into several Bitcoins though, and nobody is going to be stupid enough to try so it's irrelevant.

Why do you believe that the other more or less large casinos in this section also closed with a funded accounts?

I don't know what point you're trying to make here?

Yeah it'll be clear all right, clearly a scam when you disappear. Fuck off already.

What I mean is that you are very prejudiced to me.

No, we're weary of anybody who posts on these forums asking them to send them money, and so should everyone else.

What reason do we have to believe this is legit? None. Would you blindly trust this from some other newb?

Yeah, whether it's a scam or not will be self-evident, but why is anyone going to take that risk to see?

And the odds are always stacked against these things being a scam. Probably 99% of people who have posted in this thread will share this opinion. Whether you are legit or whether you either scam on the first go or later down the line, it doesn’t matter. There's no transparency to this at all. You can just keep making the highest bet yourself and drag it out for as long as you can.

That's also a good sign for lowlife scammers - they never net go, even if their scheme has been openly destroyed in the spotlight.

They're like zombies, brainless and keep going and going and going about how legit they are...
No no, you're all wrong and bad to me. C'mon all send me your money!

Pathetic, an insult to the homo sapiens gene pool.

It's in their interests to keep it going. If they can get somebody to even send them a bit of bitcoin, then it's profit.

Second transaction (https://blockchain.info/tx/c3f50fea8f81f4e89159402c445e8f2cc07a65169b80ad6d041a72be1595eb4e) with 0.00011 BTC was made at 16:25:01 (UTC). If it will not be exceeded within 24 hours, 99% of all funds will go to 1Huy1jcK2jCdRvZAV827rxCLXeAWxKksMU.

And so it begins...

Third transaction (https://blockchain.info/tx/84b9aeb6ebd2e40ebfd353a1c56bb1d047cbf1fae215c2e2873c2724876fbbf1) with 0.0002 BTC was made at 13:49:23 (UTC). If it will not be exceeded within 24 hours, 99% of all funds (0.00041 BTC) will go to 17TjQhFdSs78aJgK1gxyN34YuqzdPaMWjf.

nice to see that it started  ;D the question will be who has the balls to send You a big amount of coins if it gets there. the idea is nice but an escrow should be taken and even then if there would be an escrow and payout would be secure for all participants it still would be an unfair game because the one with the most coins will win. but for the operator it is ok because he gets his 1%

The fact that it is not so important who have the most coins. The important thing is how much you can put, knowing that someone may have more coins, but not the fact that he would put them.

I dont agree here because You will have to admit that a player with not many coins will not want to participate because he knows in advance that he has no chance to win. and the 3 guys who already send You the coins
1. it is You
2. it is one and the same guy
3. 3 stupid guys who are throwing the money in to the sea

only my 2 cents

I only did the initial bet. The point is that the game may stop at 0.0002 BTC (hardly game go far), which is not much, and have a chance at all.

I agree that the game may stop here but that is because of the reasons I mentioned IMHO and that players with a lot of BTC in their pockets will be afraid to send you coins in case the game is asking for big amounts of coins.

as I said before, I like the idea but it should be fair for all ;)

lol, genius game

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LOL

So what happened with this game? Did anyone win?

Yes, the Operator won - with a chance of 100%.
Was a safe bet, so he took it.

( my best guess is he's trolling other forums with this scam and other Wallets, hoping for less educated "customers" )

Yeah what a joke this became.  You can't TELL everyone what the bets are.  Otherwise it only becomes a matter of trust/stupidity...whoever has the most BTC would win.  As long as there is trust they could send 1 BTC and be a guaranteed winner. But no one would trust this guy with that much.

Incorrect, the guy who bet the most would be the loser and OP would be the winner.