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Title: Re: RED FURY 2.5 GIGASH GROUP BUY (WORLD WIDE) CRYPTOWARE
Post by: Beastlymac on January 03, 2014, 04:30:52 PM
Bitwhizz since you are in contact with the red fury team can you ask them to pay the royalties to the developer aauer1 for the design. They are currently 3+ months overdue.

Thanks


Title: Re: RED FURY 2.5 GIGASH GROUP BUY (WORLD WIDE) CRYPTOWARE
Post by: Beastlymac on January 03, 2014, 05:50:44 PM
Bitwhizz since you are in contact with the red fury team can you ask them to pay the royalties to the developer aauer1 for the design. They are currently 3+ months overdue.

Thanks

I don't particuarly want to get involved with this issue which you just mentioned, i am sure you can ask them yourselves, we are resellers, and unrelated to that matter in hand.
Respectfully
Bitwhizz

I have attempted to contact them multiple times and have been ignored. I just thought you might be able to help since they actually acknowledge your existence.


Title: Re: RED FURY 2.5 GIGASH GROUP BUY (WORLD WIDE) CRYPTOWARE
Post by: mudge on January 03, 2014, 06:42:36 PM
interested subject to price.

Truth to tell I don't think anyone will commit till a price is known..


Title: Re: RED FURY 2.5 GIGASH GROUP BUY (WORLD WIDE) CRYPTOWARE
Post by: davideak on January 04, 2014, 09:20:28 AM
Interested - pending price

I have a few questions though:

1. hash rate:
I bought some of those when they were first released but they only achieve around 2.2 Ghz
see support thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=319419.msg3851770#msg3851770)

are these the same ones - or are they version 2/ moded (pencil mod)/replaced resistors to get full performances?

2. last batch some of the units were DOA
will you test units before shipping?


thanks!



Title: Re: RED FURY 2.5 GIGASH GROUP BUY (WORLD WIDE) CRYPTOWARE
Post by: Jeffrey on January 04, 2014, 10:13:30 AM
As with any groupbuy etc, how can anyone state any kind of interest when there is no indication or whatsoever on price???

All I can say is, sure I'd like some (like 10-15) but it completely depends on the price


Title: Re: RED FURY 2.5 GIGASH GROUP BUY (WORLD WIDE) CRYPTOWARE
Post by: twib2 on January 04, 2014, 12:57:34 PM
I'm in for 2 if the price is reasonable.  Thanks.


Title: Re: RED FURY 2.5 GIGASH GROUP BUY (WORLD WIDE) CRYPTOWARE
Post by: cannachris on January 05, 2014, 08:40:36 AM
I'm in for 2 if the price is reasonable.  Thanks.

Same here. Maybe even 4 if THE PRICE IS RIGHT :D


Title: Re: RED FURY 2.5 GIGASH GROUP BUY (WORLD WIDE) CRYPTOWARE
Post by: goggles1200 on January 05, 2014, 04:44:48 PM
The price would need to be right for me to order a bunch of them. Right now, the site says 125 GBP which is way too much for them.


Title: Re: RED FURY 2.5 GIGASH GROUP BUY (WORLD WIDE) CRYPTOWARE
Post by: davideak on January 07, 2014, 05:25:25 AM
i can confirm that the units have cleared customs, now we have to pay customs charges and the units will be with us within a few days,
We will be pricing the fury's at $150 per fury or 0.12 BTC per unit

When they were first sold they were 120$ per unit!
Why the increase in price?
after all this time + second batch (reduced manu. cost) + increased diff.
Why do these cost even more?!


Title: Re: RED FURY 2.5 GIGASH GROUP BUY (WORLD WIDE) CRYPTOWARE
Post by: davideak on January 07, 2014, 08:42:02 AM
When they were first sold they were 120$ per unit!
Why the increase in price?
after all this time + second batch (reduced manu. cost) + increased diff.
Why do these cost even more?!
if paid in bitcoin 0.12 BTC  we calculated its a pretty fair deal, and is basically the same in terms of giga hash to dollar ratio to all the other USB on the market,
I do not believe the above statement is accurate

First of all - we don't know which version of red fury these are - if they are GEN1 then they will produce for most users 2~2.2 GHz.

Secondly - we can buy YellowJacket 2.2GH for 90$ (although they are pre-orders - they are expected to ship next week)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=376860.0

Thirdly - you yourself are selling bitmain U1 units for 0.08BTC that can easily be overclocked to 2GHz with cooling (witch most people already have)

Forth point - you are not taking into consideration the giant leap in difficulty since these first came into the market & the fact that
this is a second batch & manufacturing cost should be lower

I understand you trying to make a profit from noobs on your site - but for bitcointalk users prices should be more reasonable  :(

(no disrespect - I appreciate the effort you are putting in this issue - I just think prices should be more reasonable
Thank you for bringing the hardware!)


Title: Re: RED FURY 2.5 GIGASH GROUP BUY (WORLD WIDE) CRYPTOWARE
Post by: philipma1957 on January 07, 2014, 12:54:59 PM
When they were first sold they were 120$ per unit!
Why the increase in price?
after all this time + second batch (reduced manu. cost) + increased diff.
Why do these cost even more?!
if paid in bitcoin 0.12 BTC  we calculated its a pretty fair deal, and is basically the same in terms of giga hash to dollar ratio to all the other USB on the market,
I do not believe the above statement is accurate

First of all - we don't know which version of red fury these are - if they are GEN1 then they will produce for most users 2~2.2 GHz.

Secondly - we can buy YellowJacket 2.2GH for 90$ (although they are pre-orders - they are expected to ship next week)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=376860.0

Thirdly - you yourself are selling bitmain U1 units for 0.08BTC that can easily be overclocked to 2GHz with cooling (witch most people already have)

Forth point - you are not taking into consideration the giant leap in difficulty since these first came into the market & the fact that
this is a second batch & manufacturing cost should be lower

I understand you trying to make a profit from noobs on your site - but for bitcointalk users prices should be more reasonable  :(

(no disrespect - I appreciate the effort you are putting in this issue - I just think prices should be more reasonable
Thank you for bringing the hardware!)

Thankyou for your input, i will talk with the cryptoware team,
we wern't aware of the product you just mentioned, we would like to thank you for bringing that to light.
We will discuss and perhaps revise our pricing as you might have a point,
Regards


 yeah .12 for your stick is not going to cut it. 
 The antminer u1 oc's to 2gh with a simple line of code in a .bat file.
  it can  be had for .07

  I have had red fury,  Nano 'ice' fury.  while they may or may not hash as high as 2.8gh.  my best red fury hashed at  2.8-2.95
 they all are hit or miss in quality control and some are hard pressed to get to 2.5gh.

The antminers u1 all get 1.9-2.0 with the over clock .  but the real key  to them is power use.  I am running 36 of them on a 49 port hub with 2 fans.  that setup draw 115 watts at the plug.  the antminers will work on shitty usb bricks at the 2.0 gh oc.    getting 10 to work on a 10 port hub is a piece of cake.. getting 10 red furies on a 10 port hub to work is hard.
they crash  so 6 work better.  They red fury are 2x the size and weight of an antminer u1  so they do not fit well on hubs.

  at .07 vs .12 I am buying antminers.
 at .07 vs  .09-.095 I would buy either.
you seem like a nice guy I wish you luck selling them at the .12 price


Title: Re: RED FURY 2.5 GIGASH GROUP BUY (WORLD WIDE) CRYPTOWARE
Post by: philipma1957 on January 07, 2014, 03:17:25 PM
 
Quote
yeah .12 for your stick is not going to cut it.  
 The antminer u1 oc's to 2gh with a simple line of code in a .bat file.
  it can  be had for .07

  I have had red fury,  Nano 'ice' fury.  while they may or may not hash as high as 2.8gh.  my best red fury hashed at  2.8-2.95
 they all are hit or miss in quality control and some are hard pressed to get to 2.5gh.

The antminers u1 all get 1.9-2.0 with the over clock .  but the real key  to them is power use.  I am running 36 of them on a 49 port hub with 2 fans.  that setup draw 115 watts at the plug.  the antminers will work on shitty usb bricks at the 2.0 gh oc.    getting 10 to work on a 10 port hub is a piece of cake.. getting 10 red furies on a 10 port hub to work is hard.
they crash  so 6 work better.  They red fury are 2x the size and weight of an antminer u1  so they do not fit well on hubs.

  at .07 vs .12 I am buying antminers.
 at .07 vs  .09-.095 I would buy either.
you seem like a nice guy I wish you luck selling them at the .12 price

thanks for reply below

Quote
I know we will have no problem getting that price mark to people outside of the forum.
However we want to offer good deals to the bitcoin forum community, therefore we are revising our pricing
Thanks

yeah I can still get 222 usd on ebay for a redfury or a 'nano' ice fury.

these sell but slower  here is one I sold:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/161187086521?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_sacat%3D0%26_from%3DR40%26_nkw%3D161187086521%26_rdc%3D1

here is a 2 stick sale of antminers i did.  this offer sells very fast. simple math 4gh for 180usd for ants  vs 2.5gh for 222usd for 1 fury above

http://www.ebay.com/itm/161191176130?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_sacat%3D0%26_from%3DR40%26_nkw%3D161191176130%26_rdc%3D1

I would want a few reds at a good price as I want some of each.


Title: Re: RED FURY 2.5 GIGASH GROUP BUY (WORLD WIDE) CRYPTOWARE
Post by: mchu168 on January 07, 2014, 10:28:29 PM
Hey! Maybe interested in Nanofury's?

Yellowjacket 2.2 GH/s USB ASIC (Nanofury) for $90: https://www.hashratestore.com/shop/asic/nanofury-yellowjacket-bitfury-usb-asic/

We accept all forms of payment including Paypal, major credit cards, BTC and LTC. With flat rate shipping including tracking.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=194485.new#new

bad form


Title: Re: RED FURY 2.5 GIGASH GROUP BUY (WORLD WIDE) CRYPTOWARE
Post by: philipma1957 on January 07, 2014, 10:52:30 PM
Hey! Maybe interested in Nanofury's?

Yellowjacket 2.2 GH/s USB ASIC (Nanofury) for $90: https://www.hashratestore.com/shop/asic/nanofury-yellowjacket-bitfury-usb-asic/

We accept all forms of payment including Paypal, major credit cards, BTC and LTC. With flat rate shipping including tracking.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=194485.new#new

bad form

yes he is poaching but the attempt to poach shows that the op is asking too much for these sticks.

a nano fury at  his price is a lot better deal.  I went to his link and  he has no real heatsink I would think it will over heat. even at his lower price point it does not really stack up against the ant miner.  and it is a  preorder heh!  fucking late 7 to 14 days!


Title: Re: RED FURY 2.5 GIGASH GROUP BUY (WORLD WIDE) CRYPTOWARE
Post by: mchu168 on January 07, 2014, 11:01:36 PM
Hey! Maybe interested in Nanofury's?

Yellowjacket 2.2 GH/s USB ASIC (Nanofury) for $90: https://www.hashratestore.com/shop/asic/nanofury-yellowjacket-bitfury-usb-asic/

We accept all forms of payment including Paypal, major credit cards, BTC and LTC. With flat rate shipping including tracking.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=194485.new#new

bad form

yes he is poaching but the attempt to poach shows that the op is asking too much for these sticks.

a nano fury at  his price is a lot better deal.

still bad form...


Title: Re: RED FURY 2.5 GIGASH GROUP BUY (WORLD WIDE) CRYPTOWARE
Post by: philipma1957 on January 07, 2014, 11:15:54 PM
Hey! Maybe interested in Nanofury's?

Yellowjacket 2.2 GH/s USB ASIC (Nanofury) for $90: https://www.hashratestore.com/shop/asic/nanofury-yellowjacket-bitfury-usb-asic/

We accept all forms of payment including Paypal, major credit cards, BTC and LTC. With flat rate shipping including tracking.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=194485.new#new

bad form

yes he is poaching but the attempt to poach shows that the op is asking too much for these sticks.

a nano fury at  his price is a lot better deal.

still bad form...
  agreed and I just edited my post above because his stick is a pre order (already 10 days late heh!)  and it has no real heat sink  so the 90usd price is no bargain


Title: Re: RED FURY 2.5 GIGASH GROUP BUY (WORLD WIDE) CRYPTOWARE
Post by: hashrateproducts on January 09, 2014, 11:07:49 PM

sorry guys, removed.