Title: [VSC] Announcing - Very Important update Post by: Visncoin on January 03, 2014, 11:37:07 PM As of the first IPO thread published, there are lots of arguments and doubt. Our internal team made an urgent discussion and made the decision - Change the full name of VSC to Visncoin, the abbreviation will keep to VSC, a good name can have a good start. The logo will update later. We will work hard to show our determination. We believe that we can't be successful without your strong support. Thanks for the early 124 donors, you deserve all the extra rewards!!! Visncoin:Born for circulation -Method of payment and Circulation based on BTC-Gold Using VSC,Simple like using your Visa Warning!!!!"Visacoin" is a Faker,I'M"VisNcoin" not VisAcoin 2013.12.29 Important update: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=389958.0 2013.12.30 Update: Allocation Scheme of VSC!! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=391715.0 2013.12.30 Update: Stop the unnecessary argumenthttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=391960.0 2014.01.03 Update: Website is under constructionhttp://www.visacoin.info/ Warning2014.01.04 Update: Vigilance the similar name: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=398220.msg4301668#msg4301668 VSC IPO,Take off now ! ! ! Amount:96.81403714BTC Has Received Blockchain: https://blockchain.info/address/1ASRELUJaTRXHVkXNeqJy6hJXLKsZAumS9 Google: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ahw_BteCSSAddFQ0OTNkakNaTmREZ0FTd01Wd1FNZFE&usp=sharing Remind:Do not forget to pm me Why do we need Visncoin? Most of the time a dollar is in your wallet in the morning and in the afternoon it’s in the Starbuck’s register. We rarely keep the same dollars in our pocket for more than days at a time, no matter how rich or poor we might be. My experience in the bank industry has taught me if there is no circulation, the dollar is just a piece of paper. Conversely, if that same dollar circulates, its value will be doubled. Take a look at your BTC, how long have you kept your bitcoin in your personal wallets? From the moment you get them, they often do not move outside of the confines of your wallet addresses. There are many reasons for that but one of them are that BTC wallets are very inconvenient to use: - They are 8G or more - We have to wait for confirmation that amounts to 10 minutes of our time or more - You cannot use them for every purchase you’d like to make (You’re starving but cannot use your BTC to buy a hamburger at a specific burger joint) There are many problems with BTC preventing it from widespread use. BTC in a lot of ways is gold, and we don’t directly use gold as trade for goods and services. It’s not practical. We don’t walk into KFC offering a unit of gold in exchange for a bucket of chicken. BTC is the same way. For a digital currency to function in everyday commerce a coin must be easy to use, easy to carry, lightweight, and without copious amounts of data. Visncoin is that answer. What is Visncoin? Visncoin is a convenient, safe and reliable method of payment. How? If you have a deep knowledge of BTC, you know BTC is actually a book -- recording the data source and destination. Visncoin only selects what’s useful to us in the Blockchain. Visacoin is not trying to create an entirely new blockchain like every other cryptocurrency. Instead, it is trying to make the existing BTC blockchain more efficient. Visncoin’s only purpose is to achieve the format necessary for a simple and easy BTC transaction with the use of a card or smartphone. Buy what you want with no waiting, no matter when, no matter where. How can we get Visncoin? As mentioned above, Visncoin is not creating its own blockchain, but is selecting from the BTC blockchain. This can accelerate the process of our transaction. Thusly, Visncoin is another form of BTC. Given this feature we don't have to develop a coin and waste everyone's time on mining. So we are using crowdfunding, similar to the way MSC has. If you want to get VSC do the following: 1. Deadline: After get 200 members donations, we will shut the door of the crowdfund. The deadline is coming, be quick, only 76 members remaining. 2. Limit: In the design, we don't stipulate a minimum and maximum limit. You can send 1mbtc, or1000btc. You choose. 3. Method: Send any amount of BTC to 1ASRELUJaTRXHVkXNeqJy6hJXLKsZAumS9 (By the Visncoin foundation management).(Do not forget to pm me),this will affect how much VSC will you get. https://blockchain.info/address/1ASRELUJaTRXHVkXNeqJy6hJXLKsZAumS9 How much Visncoin can we get Depends on the following three factors: A: Total BTC of project received. B: How much BTC you sent. C: When you send it during the project period (The first month in can get extra rewards). Allocation Scheme of VSC The total number: 420,000,000. 1) 252,000,000vsc,(60%): Allocated to investors,before the 50th tec**51 tec**51 xia**olv ta**mll pm** me wi**ye xia**uce da**ian so**88 cy**72 ya**ao Ad**lm Co**sy 25**478 ne**ike xp**cia gol**ail pm**m ic**nv wiz**Tim li**nstars zx**01 zha**08 ara**71 opti**rier bitc**aul Ms**lec wh**22 ax**an Gr**kAz btc**ds lon**88 wi**ho le**co fl**bg te**bar Bi**oss wo**bit asn**ost Cr**kis re**ner jay**043 drg**ee ne**yu nor**510 Ir**Ang ji**ian Fun**ker xi**net The First Period,Done!! 2) 126,000,000vsc,(30%): Allocated to investors,From the 51st yan**921 Si**Btc a7**li fg**bb BT**TC pl**sm tj**pp ax**an rt**es as**015 ba**shi ab**bd can**ne At**des th**bro whi**ple ju**21 Sa**shi Dr**me ba**shi rh**ui O**O O**O me**h02 lov**89 le**ten mi**ost a7**li le**co coo**ish aa4**103 ne**cn for**ain ke**123 sh**ko dz**ush bu**fat ne**.g Twi**erD cry**ter Jag**625 qt**th qwe**121 ove**011 Ve**ga wi**jc Zy**rx Zy**rx ji**ite (99th here) 51st-100th,1.05 times Additional incentives 101st-150th,1.03 times Additional incentives 151st-200th,1.02 times Additional incentives According to the order of the record: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ahw_BteCSSAddFQ0OTNkakNaTmREZ0FTd01Wd1FNZFE&usp=sharing 3) 42,000,000vsc,(10%): 420,000(0.1%): Retained by The VSC Foundation 41,580,000(9.9%): Used to pay Remuneration,Reward,Advertising Reminder: If you have sent your donations to the previous address and PM me, please do not worry, I will keep you updated later. All later donations need to send to the new address 1ASRELUJaTRXHVkXNeqJy6hJXLKsZAumS9 for genesis block generation purposes. Extra rewards: In order to encourage everyone to actively participate in the project, I own part of the BTC as a reward. The first person who sends more than 1 BTC will get the same number of BTC as a reward. The first 50 members in can get extra 1.1X, the remaining 150 members 1.05X. DO YOU WANT TO WORK FOR VISNCOIN? We have a ton of work to do. You can help, and get paid for your work! We have: 1. Working to build wallets and independent software projects. 2. Writing specs for various features. 3. A PR company. 4. Project Management 5. Hiring And many more… To find a project, Please apply by emailing visncoin@gmail.com. We also need to set up a foundation to manage the daily affairs. Including but not limited to the following content: 1)Release the latest progress of the project, 2)Supervise the use of money 3)Solve technical problems 4)To solve the public doubt Etc. If you are an honest man(It is more important than any other requirements),and have the time and the ability to management the team, You can contact me by email(visncoin@gmail.com), Now I need at least three people to help me finish prophase works. Github:https://github.com/visncoin/vsc Medium and long-term plan will be released. Blockchain:https://blockchain.info/address/1ASRELUJaTRXHVkXNeqJy6hJXLKsZAumS9 Google:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ahw_BteCSSAddFQ0OTNkakNaTmREZ0FTd01Wd1FNZFE&usp=sharing VSC Logo Design Contest: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=384502.0 website: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=385603.0 I didn't realize that a project will have so many questions on the first day,I all day in response to the question,Really frustrating!!! New Progress Short-term plans: 1) Designing a logo of vsc https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=384502.0 2) Build a formal website https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=385603.0 3)Finished whitepaper Is writing Medium-term plan: 1)Set up a Foundation In different countries and regions 2)Recruitment software developers ((Wallet For Windows.luinx and Mac os.released sourcecodes)) 3)Develop an API(for iPhone and android) In this Step, development the main functions of vsc: Secured transactions Credit facility Automatic transfers between accounts Foreign Currency Exchange Electronic money more:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=385739.0 Some notes: 1)This project has only just begun. Lots of work waiting to be done,I have gave up my Christmas holidays Many people want to see the fruits immediately, They want to want to wake up tomorrow and be a millionaire,. We need hard work to achieve that. 2)This project is like a baby. There are many aspects that need to improve,. There may be all kinds of problems, but we cannot deny the viability of Visncoin because of flaws that might arise. 3)I'm tired of responding to a variety of suspicions on the project ,so,I will only answer questions about technical issues. If you do not believe, that is fine but please leave. This project is open source., 4) I must remind: everyone that any project has the possibility of failure, including this one, mscs plight has confirmed this, I'd rather you see it as an attempt ,a kind of opportunity which can change the BTCworld. If it fails, I would lose all my btc, so I will try my best to make it successful. I will always publish any new progress I make. Thanks to those who have encouraged me!! Title: Re: [VSC] Announcing - Very Important update Post by: dimitriyremerov on January 03, 2014, 11:58:21 PM Beware, this looks very like scam to me. The original topic is not updated and this post is posted by a newbie withot reference from the original creator. I wouldn't send any bitcoins over there.
Original spreadsheet is not updated either: https://docs.google.com/a/remerov.ru/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApjQ5TKiRAK0dGdFZW1TRENFbC1Hc3Y5OWxaemtGS1E&usp=sharing#gid=0 Title: Re: [VSC] Announcing - Very Important update Post by: MsCollec on January 04, 2014, 12:01:40 AM he is a scammer and a troll as same time.
Title: Re: [VSC] Announcing - Very Important update Post by: Visncoin on January 04, 2014, 12:12:38 AM So many noises, read the thread carefully and make your decision. I said our team change the BTC address for genesis block purpose. We are trying to find out which way is better.
1. Concensus+POS 2. concensus+POS+POW For more details we can learn from the ancestor: http://invictus-innovations.com/social-concensus Title: Re: [VSC] Announcing - Very Important update Post by: MsCollec on January 04, 2014, 12:17:09 AM So many noises, read the thread carefully and make your decision. I said our team change the BTC address for genesis block purpose. We are trying to find out which way is better. 1. Concensus+POS 2. concensus+POS+POW For more details we can learn from the ancestor: http://invictus-innovations.com/social-concensus VIRUS DETECTED DONT OPEN LINK MY SCREEN JUST WENT BLANK Title: Re: [VSC] Announcing - Very Important update Post by: Visncoin on January 04, 2014, 12:31:23 AM So many noises, read the thread carefully and make your decision. I said our team change the BTC address for genesis block purpose. We are trying to find out which way is better. 1. Concensus+POS 2. concensus+POS+POW For more details we can learn from the ancestor: http://invictus-innovations.com/social-concensus VIRUS DETECTED DONT OPEN LINK MY SCREEN JUST WENT BLANK Your are not good at lying. I would like make a copy here. And we are trying to contact Invictus-Innovations Incorporated to see if we can join the DACs. Contentcopy of the link http://invictus-innovations.com/social-concensus Quote Statement of Social Consensus a.k.a. “Social Contract” Google defines a Social Contract as “an implicit agreement among the members of a society to cooperate for social benefits.” Another term that means the same thing is Social Consensus. We use the terms interchangeably, but prefer Consensus because it is more accurate and because the term “contract” may invite undeserved scrutiny by regulators in many jurisdictions. It also emphasizes the two-way nature of the consensus. It is beyond our control to prevent a copycat from forking our open source code in a way that fails to honor our promises. It is up to the market to reject this, or not. Our first and only formal Social Contract prior to this is for ProtoShares. It was published in our October newsletter and again in our forum on Nov 3, prior to genesis on Nov 5, 2013: At our DAC’s pre-published launch time, Invictus will initialize the DAC’s genesis block to precisely match the current unspent outputs of its corresponding ProtoShares blockchain. A week later we informally generalized this to at least 10% of all our DACs. All chains shall be derived from ProtoShares, with a 1:1 mapping and 10% of the ultimate money supply of that chain. The 10% requirement is a minimum, since any number greater than that also satisfies the promise. The 1:1 mapping and 10% minimum together set an upper limit on the number of shares a DAC may allocate. If only 1.5M PTS exist at DAC release, then 15M is the derived upper limit to number of shares for that DAC. We reserve the right to scale the share count to the needs of each DAC while preserving percentages for all stakeholders. In this document, we are for the first time formally defining our view of the integrated Social Consensus for ProtoShares, AngelShares and BitShares. We also clean up the language to better comply with the laws of our jurisdiction. To that end, Invictus will only develop, endorse, support and promote DACs that meet all of the following applicable consensus requirements: For all third party DACs: Allocate at least 10% of its equity to ProtoShares holders at genesis. For all Invictus sponsored DACs: Allocate at least 10% of its equity to ProtoShares holders at genesis. Allocate at least 10% of its equity to AngelShares holders at genesis. Allocate the last 80% at the discretion of each DAC developer. We have chosen 50-50 for our first DAC to equally honor mining-lottery and patron-donor schools of thought. For our first BitShares DAC: Allocate 50% of its shares to ProtoShares holders at genesis. Allocate 50% of its shares to AngelShares holders at genesis. We will scale the total share count to 4 million shares, equally divided between the two schools. This makes all of our early supporters “official BitShares distributors” for those who arrive later! We can't think of a more fair and decentralized way to make shares available to them. We hope you agree. Specifications for the last 80% of other future DACs will vary with developer according to their business model and marketing strategies and shall be specified prior to their genesis. Until they are defined formally on this page, all forum discussion is for the purpose of reaching consensus, and any sharing of our current thinking does not constitute a commitment to any specific course of action. Title: Re: [VSC] Announcing - Very Important update Post by: dimitriyremerov on January 04, 2014, 12:38:16 AM So many noises, read the thread carefully and make your decision. I said our team change the BTC address for genesis block purpose. We are trying to find out which way is better. 1. Concensus+POS 2. concensus+POS+POW For more details we can learn from the ancestor: http://invictus-innovations.com/social-concensus So much scam wow. If you really "just changed name", please log in as Visacoin (original account: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=201824 ) and confirm what you just said. I bet you can't do that. No excuses accepted. If you can't do it, you are scammer. P.S. I'm writing this just to warn any potential "investors". I myself am already convinced it's a scam. Title: Re: [VSC] Announcing - Very Important update Post by: eagleEye on January 04, 2014, 12:40:21 AM Sent 3000 BTC
Title: Re: [VSC] Announcing - Very Important update Post by: Visncoin on January 04, 2014, 12:49:37 AM So many noises, read the thread carefully and make your decision. I said our team change the BTC address for genesis block purpose. We are trying to find out which way is better. 1. Concensus+POS 2. concensus+POS+POW For more details we can learn from the ancestor: http://invictus-innovations.com/social-concensus So much scam wow. If you really "just changed name", please log in as Visacoin (original account: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=201824 ) and confirm what you just said. I bet you can't do that. No excuses accepted. If you can't do it, you are scammer. P.S. I'm writing this just to warn any potential "investors". I myself am already convinced it's a scam. No more explanation, we have to focus on specific work. @Visacoin, when you are available, please stand out to clarify based on our great conversation yesterday!!! Do not let the investors lose the best opportunities to invest the great project. Title: Re: [VSC] Announcing - Very Important update Post by: MsCollec on January 04, 2014, 02:33:41 AM ^^^^^^Hahaha I'm done now, give me my money back >:(
Title: Re: [VSC] Announcing - Very Important update Post by: ireneang on January 04, 2014, 02:44:16 AM Before deciding to invest in VisnCoin (old name, VisaCoin), please spend a few minutes to understand what has been happening after substantial number of people have invested in this VisnCoin. I am one of those, and probably will be a victim.
Here is a real story with concrete evidence, as record of Blockchain cannot tell lies. You can check out evidence by clicking the links provided below. The Visacoin developer has been changing the IPO rules, and keep receiving investment even the proposed number of investors have reached. The developer has got the time to make a website, changed the coin name, registered as a new member, but can't even spend half a minute to correct my investment figure in the IPO summary table. My investment is 2.5 BTC, but only 1 BTC is shown. I have informed the VisaCoin developer about my investments several times in the past a few days. In the Visacoin thread, other investors have suffered from similar problems. Using the provided block explorer https://blockchain.info/address/1PmsmFaNQraZVbBv3Q13jmyucXVJfUo4Hb?offset=50&filter=0 Eveybody can check using original IPO BTC account number: 1PmsmFaNQraZVbBv3Q13jmyucXVJfUo4Hb Everybody can check using my BTC account number: 13gVWinUNnqAEDrnEDLwjeVPoLet4K8CBL. Everybody can see that I have investigated two times (1.5 BTC, 1 BTC) with a total of 2.5 BTC. Then Everybody can check my investment record (row 54, Ir**Ang) the IPO with the following link: Google: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApjQ5TKiRAK0dGdFZW1TRENFbC1Hc3Y5OWxaemtGS1E&usp=sharing Here is original link of Visacoin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=384097.0/ You can also see that now they changed the BTC account for receiving IPO. The irresponsible attitude of Visacoin team has made me as well as other investors worry whether VisaCoin is just a scam! Title: Re: [VSC] Announcing - Very Important update Post by: Visncoin on January 04, 2014, 04:03:50 AM Before deciding to invest in VisnCoin (old name, VisaCoin), please spend a few minutes to understand what has been happening after substantial number of people have invested in this VisnCoin. I am one of those, and probably will be a victim. Here is a real story with concrete evidence, as record of Blockchain cannot tell lies. You can check out evidence by clicking the links provided below. The Visacoin developer has been changing the IPO rules, and keep receiving investment even the proposed number of investors have reached. The developer has got the time to make a website, changed the coin name, registered as a new member, but can't even spend half a minute to correct my investment figure in the IPO summary table. My investment is 2.5 BTC, but only 1 BTC is shown. I have informed the VisaCoin developer about my investments several times in the past a few days. In the Visacoin thread, other investors have suffered from similar problems. Using the provided block explorer https://blockchain.info/address/1PmsmFaNQraZVbBv3Q13jmyucXVJfUo4Hb?offset=50&filter=0 Eveybody can check using original IPO BTC account number: 1PmsmFaNQraZVbBv3Q13jmyucXVJfUo4Hb Everybody can check using my BTC account number: 13gVWinUNnqAEDrnEDLwjeVPoLet4K8CBL. Everybody can see that I have investigated two times (1.5 BTC, 1 BTC) with a total of 2.5 BTC. Then Everybody can check my investment record (row 54, Ir**Ang) the IPO with the following link: Google: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApjQ5TKiRAK0dGdFZW1TRENFbC1Hc3Y5OWxaemtGS1E&usp=sharing Here is original link of Visacoin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=384097.0/ You can also see that now they changed the BTC account for receiving IPO. The irresponsible attitude of Visacoin team has made me as well as other investors worry whether VisaCoin is just a scam! Sorry for late response, update your information https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ahw_BteCSSAddFQ0OTNkakNaTmREZ0FTd01Wd1FNZFE&usp=sharing#gid=1. If there are others missed, just PM me Visncoin or wait Visacoin comes back. After called Visacoin, he is on vacation and has limited access to internet, so I will update all the information, just PM me again. Can I have some sleep??? Title: Re: [VSC] Announcing - Very Important update Post by: spud3861 on January 04, 2014, 04:32:40 AM Different spreadsheet link to original visacoin link?
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApjQ5TKiRAK0dGdFZW1TRENFbC1Hc3Y5OWxaemtGS1E&usp=sharing#gid=0 (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApjQ5TKiRAK0dGdFZW1TRENFbC1Hc3Y5OWxaemtGS1E&usp=sharing#gid=0) Title: Re: [VSC] Announcing - Very Important update Post by: ireneang on January 04, 2014, 07:47:50 AM Visacoin developers have just announced that they have no relationship with VisNcoin. Therefore, VisNcoin is a scammer.
Please check out this recent announced by visiting the original VisaCoin IPO thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=384097.0/ |