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Title: Cannot get 5830 above ~225 mhash/sec
Post by: wildboy211 on August 29, 2011, 11:12:18 PM
Im using "-v -w 256" and i have every stock ATM and running Win7 64-bit w/ Guiminer OpenCL phatk2.2 mod on PCI-E x16, according to this:
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining_hardware_comparison

I should get at least 244. Phoenix went even slower < 200 mhash/sec. Any ideas, anyone?


Title: Re: Cannot get 5830 above ~225 mhash/sec
Post by: deslok on August 29, 2011, 11:13:47 PM
What are the temperatures


Title: Re: Cannot get 5830 above ~225 mhash/sec
Post by: wildboy211 on August 29, 2011, 11:41:40 PM
Downloading MSI Afterburner to get temps and to overclock...


Title: Re: Cannot get 5830 above ~225 mhash/sec
Post by: deslok on August 29, 2011, 11:43:43 PM
Go with trixx instead


Title: Re: Cannot get 5830 above ~225 mhash/sec
Post by: wildboy211 on August 30, 2011, 12:49:07 AM
Go with trixx instead

Sorry, already got Afterburner - temp is Min.66 Max.79


Title: Re: Cannot get 5830 above ~225 mhash/sec
Post by: deslok on August 30, 2011, 12:57:43 AM
What driver version are you using


Title: Re: Cannot get 5830 above ~225 mhash/sec
Post by: wildboy211 on August 30, 2011, 01:12:25 AM
7.14.10.0855 - i got it to ~270 mhash but it froze up when i overclocked the core to 900Mhz and underclocked the memory to 500mhz and changed workload to 64 - it seems to run smooth on anything under 840/500 with a 64 workload and im getting ~246 mhash - and its temp is around 71°


Title: Re: Cannot get 5830 above ~225 mhash/sec
Post by: mike678 on August 30, 2011, 01:33:47 AM
Try uninstalling and reinstalling your drivers.


Title: Re: Cannot get 5830 above ~225 mhash/sec
Post by: wildboy211 on August 30, 2011, 01:52:53 AM
Try uninstalling and reinstalling your drivers.

Should i be getting more than what im getting right now?


Title: Re: Cannot get 5830 above ~225 mhash/sec
Post by: deslok on August 30, 2011, 01:56:39 AM
5830's hit 300mh @~1000mhz at 840 something in the range of 240-250 would be expected depending on a handful of things including your memory speed. you should be able to turn the memory speed down to 300mhz and i have yet to own a sapphire 58xx card i couldn't run at 1000mhz with proper cooling.


Title: Re: Cannot get 5830 above ~225 mhash/sec
Post by: mike678 on August 30, 2011, 02:00:07 AM
Try uninstalling and reinstalling your drivers.

Should i be getting more than what im getting right now?
You should be able to underclock to 300. When I had problems with my 5850's (lowest they could go was 500 mem) I reinstalled with the newest drivers and it fixed the majority of my problems. I also use trixx I found that I had stability problems with afterburner.


Title: Re: Cannot get 5830 above ~225 mhash/sec
Post by: dub0matic on August 30, 2011, 02:10:29 AM
with trixx my settings are 975core/350mem @ 70c with 320mh/s flags i use are -v -w256 -f0 best of luck dude
problem might be that your psu isnt powerful enuf how many watts are you running and how many cards


Title: Re: Cannot get 5830 above ~225 mhash/sec
Post by: wildboy211 on August 30, 2011, 02:16:15 AM
with trixx my settings are 975core/350mem @ 70c with 320mh/s flags i use are -v -w256 -f0 best of luck dude

Ill try these settings...

Try uninstalling and reinstalling your drivers.

Should i be getting more than what im getting right now?
You should be able to underclock to 300. When I had problems with my 5850's (lowest they could go was 500 mem) I reinstalled with the newest drivers and it fixed the majority of my problems. I also use trixx I found that I had stability problems with afterburner.

Then trixx it is...


Title: Re: Cannot get 5830 above ~225 mhash/sec
Post by: deslok on August 30, 2011, 02:18:32 AM


Then trixx it is...
[/quote]

Should have listened in the first place :P


Title: Re: Cannot get 5830 above ~225 mhash/sec
Post by: dub0matic on August 30, 2011, 02:27:53 AM

Should have listened in the first place :P
yep shouldve listened i hate afterburner never works right for me


Title: Re: Cannot get 5830 above ~225 mhash/sec
Post by: wildboy211 on August 30, 2011, 02:44:19 AM


Then trixx it is...

Should have listened in the first place :P
[/quote]

Blah blah blah...tried your setting and it crashed my computer...


Title: Re: Cannot get 5830 above ~225 mhash/sec
Post by: deslok on August 30, 2011, 02:47:59 AM
your setting as in dubomatic i assume since i never gave you a settting.


Title: Re: Cannot get 5830 above ~225 mhash/sec
Post by: wildboy211 on August 30, 2011, 02:50:45 AM
Now that i got it to "normal" settings, my computer seems to run smoother than with Afterburner and at higher clock speeds...thanks for the info on Trixx...whats the hottest my GPU should run at?

your setting as in dubomatic i assume since i never gave you a settting.

Yes, dubomatics settings...


Title: Re: Cannot get 5830 above ~225 mhash/sec
Post by: deslok on August 30, 2011, 02:51:41 AM
How does the card respond at 900 core 300 memory with no voltage changes


Title: Re: Cannot get 5830 above ~225 mhash/sec
Post by: wildboy211 on August 30, 2011, 03:04:02 AM
How does the card respond at 900 core 300 memory with no voltage changes

I got 30+ mhash (~280 mhash) by using this @ 860/300 with "-k phatk VECTORS BFI_INT AGGRESSION=8 FASTLOOP=false WORKSIZE=256":
http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=10157.0

And everything seems to be running smoothly. If i try to go over 880 it doesnt like to do much else...and this is my main computer, not a rig.


Title: Re: Cannot get 5830 above ~225 mhash/sec
Post by: mike678 on August 30, 2011, 03:06:46 AM
And everything seems to be running smoothly. If i try to go over 880 it doesnt like to do much else...and this is my main computer, not a rig.

Yea if you need to use this rig don't expect over 300 megahash.


Title: Re: Cannot get 5830 above ~225 mhash/sec
Post by: pekv2 on August 30, 2011, 03:11:27 AM
Maybe wildboy should try drivers 11.8 with newest GUIminer / openCL with -v -w128 -f25 with w/e oc he can get out of it.

With my xfx 5830, I am receiving 319 Mhash/s, then when using the pc it drops to 310-314 Mhash/s, second card just sits at 323mhash/s, as it just mines.


Title: Re: Cannot get 5830 above ~225 mhash/sec
Post by: wildboy211 on August 30, 2011, 03:12:55 AM
Maybe wildboy should try drivers 11.8 with newest GUIminer / openCL with -v -w128 -f25 with w/e oc he can get out of it.

With my xfx 5830, I am receiving 319 Mhash/s, then when using the pc it drops to 310-314 Mhash/s, second card just sits at 323mhash/s, as it just mines.

You have a link for the 11.8 drivers? I might try that on the weekend when i have more time...


Title: Re: Cannot get 5830 above ~225 mhash/sec
Post by: pekv2 on August 30, 2011, 03:15:07 AM
Maybe wildboy should try drivers 11.8 with newest GUIminer / openCL with -v -w128 -f25 with w/e oc he can get out of it.

With my xfx 5830, I am receiving 319 Mhash/s, then when using the pc it drops to 310-314 Mhash/s, second card just sits at 323mhash/s, as it just mines.

You have a link for the 11.8 drivers? I might try that on the weekend when i have more time...

http://sites.amd.com/us/game/downloads/Pages/downloads.aspx

You could also get them from Guru3d, but posting link to them violates TOS, "i think".


Title: Re: Cannot get 5830 above ~225 mhash/sec
Post by: dub0matic on August 30, 2011, 03:36:56 AM
what psu are you using then you might not have enuff wattage


Title: Re: Cannot get 5830 above ~225 mhash/sec
Post by: wildboy211 on August 30, 2011, 04:04:14 AM
what psu are you using then you might not have enuff wattage

Actually, now that i think of it, that may be the case, as i only have a 475 watt psu - and i have 2 HD's, DVD-RW, Quad-core, fans, etc...
BTW, i got some pictures after i installed the video card (but before second PCIE power cable):
https://i.imgur.com/mrNoIl.jpg (http://imgur.com/mrNoI)
https://i.imgur.com/zxKOjl.jpg (http://imgur.com/zxKOj)
https://i.imgur.com/5TqG0l.jpg (http://imgur.com/5TqG0)


Title: Re: Cannot get 5830 above ~225 mhash/sec
Post by: deslok on August 30, 2011, 04:09:58 AM
it's been a long time since i've seen a psu with a in and an out on it...


Title: Re: Cannot get 5830 above ~225 mhash/sec
Post by: wildboy211 on August 30, 2011, 04:20:43 AM
it's been a long time since i've seen a psu with a in and an out on it...

I bought it around a year ago, oh and its 480 watt if that makes any difference:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811148029


Title: Re: Cannot get 5830 above ~225 mhash/sec
Post by: dub0matic on August 30, 2011, 04:23:22 AM
well my old psu was 450 and i ran 2hdd  2 cards and duocore but couldnt do anything else maybe it time to upgrade psu and get another card haha. this is what replaced mine with its cheap works great for me http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182191 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182191) it runs 2x 5830s and 1x 5770.
 idk but i think 475watts should be fine for 1 card. 1oo watts for system and 150watts for card seem fine


Title: Re: Cannot get 5830 above ~225 mhash/sec
Post by: wildboy211 on August 30, 2011, 04:31:37 AM
well my old psu was 450 and i ran 2hdd  2 cards and duocore but couldnt do anything else maybe it time to upgrade psu and get another card haha. this is what replaced mine with its cheap works great for me http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182191 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182191) it runs 2x 5830s and 1x 5770.
 idk but i think 475watts should be fine for 1 card. 1oo watts for system and 150watts for card seem fine

Yeah, i like Rosewill too - but this one is cheaper and still has good reviews:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817148022

But i noticed yours has 6 SATA, while mine has 4, which i need when as i add more HD's (i have another 1TB coming on Wednesday).


Title: Re: Cannot get 5830 above ~225 mhash/sec
Post by: deslok on August 30, 2011, 04:32:04 AM
I can't find that exact psu anywhere however the currently avilable logisys psu's are only rated for 16a(192w) on the 12v line i can't imagine that one is too different if you have a quad core with a moderate ammount of load on it as well as a 5830 mining they're going to fight over that 12 volt rail, tons of amperage on the 3.3 and 5v rails though  28a(92.4w) on the 3.3v and 36a(180w) on the 5v. they're not lieing about it being a 480w psu it's just designed for older systems where things were more dependent on the 3.3v and 5v rails. unless there's one i can't see that system only has a single pcie slot you'd be fine with a psu like this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182044
two seperate 12v rails with 15a and 16a respectivly neither the cpu or the gpu will be power hungry


Title: Re: Cannot get 5830 above ~225 mhash/sec
Post by: vapourminer on September 02, 2011, 11:08:30 AM
dump that junk PSU. as you clock up the 5830 its power draw goes up, and the PSU cant meet it 12v draw. 12v drops. hence, crash. and that psu is probably over rated  by 20-30% anyway, most all generics are.

silverstone, antec, corsair, seasonic, pc power and cooling. any 450+ watt psu by those will be fine, and will actually deliver whats it rated for at real world temps. but get a reputable brand like one on that list. most rosewill and cooler master are not (although a couple got good ratings at johnny guru I think, unsure on that). some use em and it works, for a while at least, but personally I dont trust em.

grab a 650+ if you plan a 2nd card at some point, otherwise 450 or so is good.

once you have a decent PSU you should easily hit 1000+ Mhz on the core.



Title: Re: Cannot get 5830 above ~225 mhash/sec
Post by: wildboy211 on September 02, 2011, 01:44:19 PM
dump that junk PSU. as you clock up the 5830 its power draw goes up, and the PSU cant meet it 12v draw. 12v drops. hence, crash. and that psu is probably over rated  by 20-30% anyway, most all generics are.

silverstone, antec, corsair, seasonic, pc power and cooling. any 450+ watt psu by those will be fine, and will actually deliver whats it rated for at real world temps. but get a reputable brand like one on that list. most rosewill and cooler master are not (although a couple got good ratings at johnny guru I think, unsure on that). some use em and it works, for a while at least, but personally I dont trust em.

grab a 650+ if you plan a 2nd card at some point, otherwise 450 or so is good.

once you have a decent PSU you should easily hit 1000+ Mhz on the core.



LOL - my PSU fried the other day, so now i cant mine at all until Tuesday when my other PSU (i bought a cheap 680 watt for now) gets here. Ill see what kind of performance i get out of that.


Title: Re: Cannot get 5830 above ~225 mhash/sec
Post by: skEwb on September 02, 2011, 07:57:55 PM
I recently switched to cgminer 1.6.0 as I noticed an increase in Mh/s and stability. The following command line gets me 430Mh/s from my 5850 and 230Mh/s from 6770:

cgminer -o http://host:port -u x -p x -I 7 --submit-stale

My 5850 is set to 1050/375 @ 1.2V w/ 75% fan.
My 6770's are at 985/300 @1.124v w/ 100% fan.


Title: Re: Cannot get 5830 above ~225 mhash/sec
Post by: dub0matic on September 11, 2011, 07:21:12 PM
ATI's CCC is capped at 900 MHz overclock so that card is seriously defective if it can't even make it that high

my sapphire 5830 can make it to 965 with trixx without crashing

try the flags -v -w128 and -f2
dont use ccc. use trixx or afterburner


Title: Re: Cannot get 5830 above ~225 mhash/sec
Post by: wildboy211 on September 11, 2011, 08:16:51 PM
Changed my 5830 (from a Diamond brand to a Sapphire) and i can overclock much higher and getting higher Mhashes (i can overclock to around 950/300 which gives me around 315 mhash.


Title: Re: Cannot get 5830 above ~225 mhash/sec
Post by: Valalvax on September 13, 2011, 02:41:02 AM
I've got my 5830 (not sure what brand sorry, no markings on it at all, bought from eBay) running at 960/300 doing 295-310MH/s

Sorry, using CGminer 1.6.1


Title: Re: Cannot get 5830 above ~225 mhash/sec
Post by: wildboy211 on September 13, 2011, 02:49:55 AM
I've got my 5830 (not sure what brand sorry, no markings on it at all, bought from eBay) running at 960/300 doing 295-310MH/s

Sorry, using CGminer 1.6.1

Thats about what mine is running stable (can get more, but i wont be able to do anything else).


Title: Re: Cannot get 5830 above ~225 mhash/sec
Post by: Valalvax on September 13, 2011, 02:53:57 AM
If I take it much higher it starts to crash leading to lost time


I've only got a 550 watt psu


Title: Re: Cannot get 5830 above ~225 mhash/sec
Post by: wildboy211 on September 13, 2011, 03:21:25 AM
If I take it much higher it starts to crash leading to lost time


I've only got a 550 watt psu

Yeah, i had to upgrade my 480 watt to a 675.


Title: Re: Cannot get 5830 above ~225 mhash/sec
Post by: dub0matic on September 13, 2011, 03:41:23 AM
lol i cant help but laugh at a miner on a poormans budget


Title: Re: Cannot get 5830 above ~225 mhash/sec
Post by: wildboy211 on September 13, 2011, 03:42:34 AM
lol i cant help but laugh at a miner on a poormans budget

Why is that funny?


Title: Re: Cannot get 5830 above ~225 mhash/sec
Post by: Valalvax on September 13, 2011, 04:29:11 AM
Not sure how it's a poor mans budget

I spent 100 bucks compared to the 700 you spent, big deal

I had everything except for the card (and a hard drive)


Title: Re: Cannot get 5830 above ~225 mhash/sec
Post by: wildboy211 on September 13, 2011, 05:47:06 AM
Not sure how it's a poor mans budget

I spent 100 bucks compared to the 700 you spent, big deal

I had everything except for the card (and a hard drive)

And i spent over $200 on two card, the only reason im not mining with 2 5830's right now is because the person i bought my second card off of forgot to send the 1x to 16x adapter.


Title: Re: Cannot get 5830 above ~225 mhash/sec
Post by: ssateneth on September 18, 2011, 01:28:05 AM
wildboy you still watching this thread? Make sure you guiminer is updated. The newest one comes with a new phoenix, and with that comes a new phatk kernel. You had these arguments.

-k phatk VECTORS BFI_INT AGGRESSION=8 FASTLOOP=false WORKSIZE=256

Try these.

-k phatk2 VECTORS AGGRESSION=8

Switches to the new phatk 2.2 kernel. BFI_INT is on by default now, WORKSIZE defaults to the largest your hardware can do (256), and FASTLOOP is off by default as well.


Title: Re: Cannot get 5830 above ~225 mhash/sec
Post by: wildboy211 on September 18, 2011, 06:07:42 AM
wildboy you still watching this thread? Make sure you guiminer is updated. The newest one comes with a new phoenix, and with that comes a new phatk kernel. You had these arguments.

-k phatk VECTORS BFI_INT AGGRESSION=8 FASTLOOP=false WORKSIZE=256

Try these.

-k phatk2 VECTORS AGGRESSION=8

Switches to the new phatk 2.2 kernel. BFI_INT is on by default now, WORKSIZE defaults to the largest your hardware can do (256), and FASTLOOP is off by default as well.

Thanks, i have the current version of guiminer, and i changed the arguments and it seemed to work a little smoother (was jumping back and forth from 298 mhash to 303 mhash, but now it stays between 302-303).


Title: Re: Cannot get 5830 above ~225 mhash/sec
Post by: d.james on October 17, 2011, 04:12:19 PM
300mh is pretty decent for a 5830, if you want considerable more the clocks has to be in the 1000s


Title: Re: Cannot get 5830 above ~225 mhash/sec
Post by: ssateneth on October 18, 2011, 01:39:41 AM
300mh is pretty decent for a 5830, if you want considerable more the clocks has to be in the 1000s

Nice necro brah