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I was wrong!

  It's not hard for me to admit being wrong on the occasions that I am wrong. Every thinking man makes some mistakes.

  I have stated in forum and private communication that the perverts and soddomites who are sullying bitcoin with their lewdness and inability to seperate their public lives from their private parts would eventually die off or drift away from bitcoin because they have no business using private currency.

  Well, I have proven myself wrong about that when I exposed their international business of selling opportunity to rape children.

  Sorry about that; my mistake. They do have a big business in pimping little boys. I had no idea of how big when I first called attention to the crimes of sexual interference of a minor and of internet luring.

  I suppose the next item I need to uncover is just how corrupted the moderation of the bitcoin forum is. I see a flurry of delete actions in a lame attempt to cover their filthy tracks. If this post is also deleted, it will not be lost. If my username is deleted, consider why the first registered regular user of this forum would get that treatment.

  I can't be wrong about much else, hmm? Bruce and his fandom is a deliberate plant by the banksters to destroy the credibility of bitcoin? Adrianne Jefferies is a post-op transexual? The Mezi Grill is a meeting place for would-be sex tourists? MyBitCoin was the clearing house for payments made by the johns to the pimps of children? A small weekly paper in NYC is going into receivership?

  When Bruce got on his stupid TV show and cried for his viewers to call the FBI, I hope many of them did. I'm not in trouble. I did nothing wrong. Bruce publicly accused me of stealing the MBC holding without any evidence as retaliation for my shedding light on his viciously evil schemes.

  I'm really surprised at how stupid users of this forum were to fall for his lame attempt to shift attention away from himself and onto me. He should have picked a poor young man who knows few people in the world to scapegoat.

  Well, I suppose those who deign to rape desperately poor children can't be accused of being smart enough to avoid earning the wrath of veterans like me.

Shane Smith

You accused Bruce of luring little boys back to his hotel room using as evidence the fact that he was gay and invited Bitcoin users in general to visit him at the gay-friendly hotel he was staying at, and the existence of minors in the Bitcoin community. Sorry, but that still makes you a homophobic asshole at least in my books, especially given that it's one of the oldest anti-gay slanders around. (I do regret writing posts defending him somewhat though.)

Nanaimogold you are just an attention whore. Go pay a prostitute if nobody pays you any attention in your real life.

Why are you guys covering for him? It seems desperate and peculiar.

/me is trying out the 'Ignore' button for the first time.

That's exactly how I feel, because I'm pretty much in the same situation. It fucks me off that someone could spew such obvious, unfounded hatred because of someone's homosexuality, and then feel even the tiniest bit vindicated. IMHO, there's nothing wrong with being gay -but at the very least, Bruce has shown himself to be a rape-apologist who doesn't mind fulfilling his sexual desires by going to foreign lands and using the economic status of the adults he beds to his own benefit. At the very worst, well... you know - but that remains to be proven IMHO.

Well, it looks like Tom Williams has left the closet  ;D

+1

Very well said.

When and where?

By my recollection I have never discussed homosexuality here or anywhere else in public. My own sex life is not up for discussion either.

I asked Bruce to not "wear his genitals on his shirtsleeve". I said, "I don't care if you are gay, straight or zoo, just close your bedroom door". I said it's "lewd to define your public self by what you do with your private parts".

That's what prompted him and Adrianne to print lies about me being a thief. To deflect cricism for his criminal interference and luring.

Yes it was me that pointed out that he was luring minors to bathhouses, but not once have I said anything about being gay or about homosexuality in particilar.

Bitcoin represents the fruit of my life's work. Of course I'm angry when a dummy like bruce, who clearly does not know what bitcoin is for, nor understands the necessity that mothered the invention, does all he can to use that as a vehicle to promote his sick numbers game. When was the last time a bank exectutive tried to lure you into a coffee shop toilet? It's my point that it's inapropriate behavior.

So, I challenge you haters to show anywhere I have made any judgement call on being gay. Or to anywhere that I have indicated my own sexual preference. The truth is that you DON'T KNOW because my privates are not for public discussion.

And this repeated accusation that I am "homophobic" is laughable on so many levels, not the least being that I am well known for my daring and am afraid of nothing almost to the point of pathology. Afraid of homos? How ridiculous!

A small vocal minority on this forum is not representative of the majority who are sickened by this whole mess and who recognise that the false accusations that I have commited a crime is a just poor attempt to smokescreen a real crime. My inbox is full of people agreeing with me, people who don't post in public to avoid the clawing gaggle of shrilling nancys that bitcoin is infested with.

That will change though. Mark my words. I was wrong about them not having business using digital currency, but I'm never much wrong about anythng.

Can you please share more information about this? I haven't been around the forums for long, so I might have missed this but it seems to me to be very relevant to the current topic at hand.

wtf is going on here...
Being gay is nothing more different than being black... :P  I think that some people here should crawl back into their caves and go back to the stone age.

You are so ridiculous you are sad.


Ohhh... your ego is as big as small is your sanity. Please go get attention somewhere else. You are nothing.

Bruce invited Spanish Bitcoin users in general to come visit him at a gay-friendly hotel he was staying at in Spain. Said hotel has a spa attached. Some Bitcoin users are known to be minors. Somehow nanaimogold and warweed managed to twist this (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=38916.0) into Bruce luring minors to a gay bathhouse.

Edit: Oh, and it wasn't actually Bruce or Adrianne that came up with the potential links between nanaimogold and MyBitcoin either, though I can't remember who it was that did.

Ok, thanks for setting that straight. Sounds like it's a ridiculous stretch.

So because Bruce is gay (so what), that automatically means that he wants to have sex with children?
Meeting somebody doesn't atomically mean that they want to have sex! :P
Overall who cares if it is a gay-friendly hotel or not... it makes 0 difference.
All of you points are rather stupid imho.

Consider when I joined this forum, and my post count. Then consider your stats, then tell us all who is here whoring for attention.

makomk> Edit: Oh, and it wasn't actually Bruce or Adrianne that came up with the potential links between nanaimogold and MyBitcoin either, though I can't remember who it was that did.

I don't know where that originally came from either, but the NY Observer printed the allegation and it was after my threat of legal action that it was retracted.

da2ce7 > So because Bruce is gay (so what), that automatically means that he wants to have sex with children?

Automatic? Have you read the material? He has been at this for years. They are selling sex tours to brothels where the victims are as young as 7 yrs old. The mob at Something Awful have uncovered loads of sick shit after discovering Bruce's other nicks. I think you better do some more reading and not try to invent soming into my posts that I never said.

da2ce7 > Being gay is nothing more different than being black...

Nor different from being from outer space! LOL I can't believe you just said that.

You are another one who defines himself in public by what he does with his private parts. You might want to ponder that crossed wire in your psyche. Perhaps you have the assburgers, it could not be that you are just a lewd asshole, could it?

The challenge remains. Where have I EVER posted any opinion on anyone being gay?

COME ON NOW! You MUST have something to back up this claim!

For those reading this who still have their brains intact, look at who is the most vocal haters of moral values on this board, then look at the dates they joined up. Telling, isn't it?

Lies, slander, false witness, assault of children, stealing, soddomy, there is no taboo left but one. That is the act of criticising the sinners. You can't do that.

Don't feed the troll.

Really? Every single post I've read by you on the subject, including the one on talkgold, smacks of homophobia. Heck, look two paragraphs up from where you made this assertion, where unless I'm reading it wrong is stating that you're okay with gays as long as they don't act gay in public?

I still stand behind an observation I made in another thread - even if it does turn out proven that Bruce is a pedo (still unproven, IMHO) your posts didn't have shit for proof. All you had was a couple posts that on the surface are despicable displays of homophobia and hatred.

In other words: "he may be wrong, but you ain't right."

That's some serious accusation you have there. Let's look at the situation: Someone threw a joke that you scammed some coins from the MyBitcoinCoin and now you're going all out how the person is abusing 7 year old children and what not. That's way out of scale man.

Please do post your own proof: what are the other aliases of Bruce Wagner that are discussing about child abuse and how did you come to the conclusion that they are the same person?

I'm open minded and not locking any possibilites away. So please do elaborate on your claims.

Check the 'interesting email' thread for a sample, his username on many sites where he discusses these things is punlman

Hmmh, okay the nicknames do seem to link. It does not yet prove that others could not use it. Any references to actual child abusing instead of just gay stuff? I'll look into this a bit more once I get back home. Thanks !

There is a chance someone out there might have used the name somewhere, but it is kinda unique in that the first part (separated into punl-man) is something of his own creation, where somewhere (can't find source atm) stands for something like 'Pure Unconditional Non-judgemental Love' (also the name of a book he claims to be writing)

also the wording very much sounds like the kind of codified language someone might use when doing something illegal

Or... someone else just used his established nickname. This doesn't even come close to the standard of evidence needed to indict, let alone convict someone. It's a joke.

Nice, even more trolling

Mods can we merge the umpteen "Bruce" threads? Also change the topic to
 "Monkeys throw feces at each other".   ::)

Still no example of any occasion when I voiced an opinion on being gay.

Not even one.

Just blame it on the assburgers.

Oh, that was a JOKE! Well my bad. Some news reporter in a foreign country was just making a JOKE when she told the world that I'm a thief.

Bruce is a con artist and he surely conned you, didn't he?

Joke indeed.

So assburgers, where is that proof that I made some negative judgement about being gay. Come on already. Lets see some proof of your claims! You call me a homophobe, show your work!

if your homophobic, just say so.

also, i find this thread to be very funny

I'm still waiting.

Where is this proof of irrational fear of homosexuals?

Losers hiding behind the internet feel safe to shout perjoratives and express fighting words, come on now and back it up now.

I can back up everything I say. Why not you in this simple demand?

I answered you earlier, you ignored it. So I just answered you in another thread.

We all know "raping minors" for the magical trump card of western internet. Even if directed at a very shady person, I ignore this if it doesn't have solid proof. People get scared by the topic itself due to the child pornography laws, so vague accusations are used where exact explanations should be. I've seen this game often enough, the magical child porn weapon. Especially effective when one is able to insert data in another person's computer, but that's not mandatory at all.

It is time for some concise proof that Bruce Wagner had forced sexual activity with minors -- note that the claim was explicitly on rape -- to distinguish this thread from slander. In fact, the form of the thread itself is strange. Where is the link to the place where the "international business of selling opportunity to rape children" was exposed?

All of Bruce's conferences and "meet-ups" have been held in or planned for homocentric venues. It seems pretty clear that bitcoin is just a cover for his real agenda.

For years he has openly bragged of being a sex tourist, bragged of traveling to places famous for child prostitues and told the world of his hiring "boys" in these places. Regardless of the ages of these boys, the conclusion is the same. Bruce is a pervert. He is also a liar and a con man and a thief.

The proof of all this is in his own words, posted to the public internt, revelling in his own obscenity and in the public record of his convictions for sex crimes and financial judgements that he has ran away from.

No, you did not show any proof that I have ever voiced an opinion on homosexuality. All you posted was your own opinon of what you think I might say.

Come on you ass-clowns. Let's see the proof to back up your claims.

You know my next challenge; What make you entitled to your opinion and me not to mine? Why the double standard?

Now that you have started the insults, you leave me free to reciprocate. Do you think that your gang of fairies is going to save you from my wrath?

Do I sound afraid of homos yet?

One thing that really exposes the disingenuous is their willingness to say from behind their net connection what they would never dare say IRL. Note that anything I say online, I will say to your face. You cannot make that claim methinks.

you should start by honouring your business promises
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=6796.msg99569#msg99569

Who are you to tell me what I can start on? What a lame attempt to change the subject.

Read the whole thread ass clown. The OP was trying to card WU and cash out through my exchange. When I thwarted his crime, he did what ass clowns are famous for. He lied in public.

The other ass clowns were either trying to SE me or became so insulting as to inspire me to exersize my right of association.

People without morals know no boundries. You can count yourself among that number or not by choice of free will.

Now, where is the proof I asked for? All we have here is proof that ass clowns hide their immorality behind insults and that by their devience they expect to be exempted from responsibility for choosing to lie, cheat, steal and sodomise.

bro, I think you derailed long ago, maybe you will find some peace of mind backing all your accusations in a criminal court

Accusations? Bruce admitted his crimes. I only pointed that out.

The only false accusation that still needs addressing is his using the media to accuse ME of a crime.

So, where is this proof I'm asking for?

There is none.

You perverts think you can do whatever you like and be excused for it by crying "bigot" and "homophobe". That shit does not work on me. I will grind on you forever if I want to. I am right and you are wrong. It's like science. It's not a matter of opinion.

Are you asserting that all homosexuals are perverts?

If you need definitions, try dictionaries.

Why are you avoiding the question? Are you afraid to be straightforward? I'm not asking what a dictionary says. I'm asking what you're asserting. A simple yes or no will suffice. Let me ask again.

Are you asserting that all homosexuals are perverts?

It's not nice to call people perverts.  The fact is, they lead a sinful, promiscuous life that often leads them to increased risk for disease and psychological distress.  They don't need to be judged with hateful words, just helped to come back to grace.

Lovecraft was a Godless atheist and has some issues of his own on this topic.


http://www.hplovecraft.com/life/myths.asp#homosexual

Do you ever plan on answering my question?

Gay people are not perverts and  trying to insult people by calling them "assburgers" is yet another way you show your lack of consideration. You are a small hate filled little man. Id rather be a gay perverted aspergers that a shane smith.  :)

Methinks you do protest too much about sodomy.

Fun fact: you can sexer a womanb in the butt, a woman can sexer a man or even another wovman in the butt witha strapon. Don't fear the buttsex.

Is it gay if Kurt Cobain gives me a chubby?  I think he should give anyone a chubby.  Even girls. 

I think that is called a 'clit boner'.

RIP CURT KOBAIN

Nobody cares about your 80s music.

But he was the king of disco.

That was the thing with the sousaphones, right?

I'm more in alignment with the OP, but for the following reason.

While there's not enough evidence to suggest Bruce is a pedo, there's more than enough evidence to give me a despicable impression of his character.

Bruce is quite obviously a person motivated largely by desire.  He is often impulsive and selfish.

He is absolutely not a man I would want speaking on behalf of Bitcoin as I have no doubt his interests revolve around his immediate satisfaction.

You're thinking of Funky Winkerbean.

Ass clowns trying to distract from the topic are so transparent. Nothing they say is truth. In no way can they be trusted to any purpose.

The only thing I was wrong about was assuming Bruce and his gaggle of sodomites to not have any busingss using privately issued currency.

It now appears that they do, or rather _did_ have a sex tourism racket laundering profits with bitcoin.

Oh well, I wasn't far wrong.

na na na na - hey hey hey - goodbye ...

Are you trying to say that you are an ass clow trying to distract the forum from your connection to mybitcoin.com?

Can you delve a little further in this, I'm just catching up to this thread but am unsure what you feel Bitcoin's intentions are as a coin?

Would you like to try again? Perhaps put some thought into it first?

It's below my standard to battle wits with the unarmed.

I don't believe the inanimate can actually form intent.

I horribly word questions on purpose sometimes, apologies, but can you expand on the thoughts you were starting to make then.

Lo siento. No comprede.

Claro.


Las partes en negrita por favor.

The necessity that mothered the bitcoin invention is the need to make private irrevokable payments over long distance without having to trust or even know the spender. Social disease networkers like Bruce have consistently tried to adapt bitcoin to meeting up in person and getting to know the spender. There is no need to use bitcoin to pay for what Bruce buys in person. Paper money passed under the toilet stall works fine for his purpose. It's better even, because there is no need to carry a computer or wait for a confirmation.

The problem with the original invention that addresses the necessity as described above, is that criminals could, and did, steal the ledger books and the gold backing. In that way the privacy and the value were lost. Bitcoin is hoped to be the solution because criminals cannot rob the vault, or steal the data. It's been a long and painful process to get to where we are today. Probably less than one in a hundred posters to this forum have this understanding.

Interesting.  I can see how Bruce was literally preaching going against these ideas.   I like this way of thinking.   Also, i'm sure your numbers on the hundred posters is right, as I don't believe I have seen the explanation be that specific, and no sites really tout Bitcoin as such.

ROFLAMO!!!!!!!!       
Now that's funny!
He should run for US Senate..hehehehe

I must say that I agree with nanaimogold vision about bitcoin, maybe the only thing I agree with him.
Any attempt to make it regulate, back, or fiat-mimic bitcoin is a fail.