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Title: What is going to happen with bitstamp down
Post by: gwoplock on January 07, 2014, 04:54:26 PM
Currently bitstamp is down and looks like it will be for a while. What do you think is going to happen to the price


Title: Re: What is going to happen with bitstamp down
Post by: MatTheCat on January 07, 2014, 04:59:48 PM
Currently bitstamp is down and looks like it will be for a while. What do you think is going to happen to the price

Bitstamp is the market leader for Bitcoiners who are actually interested in cashing out (you actually get paid, and in an acceptable amount of time).

Bitstamp has lead the correction of the past couple of days.

I guess if the main selling exchange is down, then the price goes up.


Title: Re: What is going to happen with bitstamp down
Post by: RyNinDaCleM on January 07, 2014, 05:04:06 PM
Is BitStamp down? I can access every part of their website except the front page. I don't have an account to see if trading is functional.

BitcoinWisdom is showing trades happening on BitStamp as I type this.

I have it up, and just refreshed it now.


Title: Re: What is going to happen with bitstamp down
Post by: MEpatriot on January 07, 2014, 05:04:32 PM
Can you explain how they lead the correction?


Title: Re: What is going to happen with bitstamp down
Post by: R2Pleasent on January 07, 2014, 05:04:37 PM
Bitstamp being down has a negative effect on prices in short term.  It causes panic and uncertainty.


Title: Re: What is going to happen with bitstamp down
Post by: gwoplock on January 07, 2014, 05:04:56 PM
Is BitStamp down? I can access every part of their website except the front page. I don't have an account to see if trading is functional.

BitcoinWisdom is showing trades happening on BitStamp as I type this.

True but someone going to bitstamp isn't going to like them not having a front page.


Title: Re: What is going to happen with bitstamp down
Post by: MatTheCat on January 07, 2014, 05:28:51 PM
Can you explain how they lead the correction?

Erm..............cos that is where the initial and a disproportionate amount of the selling action is?

(Look at the charts)


Bitstamp being down has a negative effect on prices in short term.  It causes panic and uncertainty.

Prices have went up $40 since Bitstamp went down.


Title: Re: What is going to happen with bitstamp down
Post by: bambou on January 07, 2014, 06:21:48 PM
Hello, a friend of mine also have that pb with stamp. i dont. Anyho, prices are dropping on stamp right now. could that pb be the cause then?


Title: Re: What is going to happen with bitstamp down
Post by: Chancellor on January 07, 2014, 06:42:38 PM
Currently bitstamp is down and looks like it will be for a while. What do you think is going to happen to the price
The main page is back, the rest of the site was accessible all the time (I've withdrawn my BTC to private wallet just in case, without problems). And the price, well, hard to say if it is still the latest correction, but during the main Bitstamp page "blackout" have fallen another 30 or so USD...


Title: Re: What is going to happen with bitstamp down
Post by: Nagle on January 07, 2014, 07:34:17 PM
Right now, Bitstamp is up, but Mt. Gox is displaying "Mt. Gox.com loading. Please wait..."

"Please wait..." - that's appropriate for Mt. Gox.


Title: Re: What is going to happen with bitstamp down
Post by: bambou on January 07, 2014, 08:17:26 PM
Right now, Bitstamp is up, but Mt. Gox is displaying "Mt. Gox.com loading. Please wait..."

"Please wait..." - that's appropriate for Mt. Gox.

spooky... exchanges been hacked one at the time?! next BTC-e?  ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: What is going to happen with bitstamp down
Post by: ElectricMucus on January 07, 2014, 08:21:03 PM
Market manipulation they're trying to prevent a crash.


Title: Re: What is going to happen with bitstamp down
Post by: proudhon on January 07, 2014, 08:27:35 PM
Please see my post here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=403513.msg4372402#msg4372402) for confirmation and verified sources (all Chinese language, of course).  This problem likely has something to do with the Chinese firewall situation, which is confirmed.  Just read the sources I linked to.  It's all there.


Title: Re: What is going to happen with bitstamp down
Post by: Jcw188 on January 07, 2014, 08:28:12 PM
It is depressing that so many exchanges won't allow people to actually get fiat out.


Title: Re: What is going to happen with bitstamp down
Post by: oda.krell on January 07, 2014, 08:31:14 PM
Market manipulation they're trying to prevent a crash.

By being up and running? :D


Title: Re: What is going to happen with bitstamp down
Post by: ElectricMucus on January 07, 2014, 08:50:40 PM
Market manipulation they're trying to prevent a crash.

By being up and running? :D

Just saying in case it happens again and everybody knows that exchange operators are full of shit.


Title: Re: What is going to happen with bitstamp down
Post by: N12 on January 07, 2014, 08:54:13 PM
Market manipulation they're trying to prevent a crash.

By being up and running? :D

Just saying in case it happens again and everybody knows that exchange operators are full of shit.
http://buttcoin.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/GoxLag.jpg


Title: Re: What is going to happen with bitstamp down
Post by: drgyoza on January 07, 2014, 11:55:41 PM
 ;D marvellous

How will it happen that exchange places won't let people get fiat out ?


Title: Re: What is going to happen with bitstamp down
Post by: Bitbuy on January 08, 2014, 12:23:51 PM
If Gox ever (eventually?) dies; community will move on and blame the (at that time) leading BTC exchange....
Only way for this to end is have a wide variety of possibilities, globally accessible


Title: Re: What is going to happen with bitstamp down
Post by: MEpatriot on January 08, 2014, 02:45:57 PM
Who owns bitstamp?


Title: Re: What is going to happen with bitstamp down
Post by: maximum on January 08, 2014, 02:57:37 PM
Who owns bitstamp?

his name is nejc kodric.

use google  :)


Title: Re: What is going to happen with bitstamp down
Post by: MEpatriot on January 08, 2014, 03:11:10 PM
So how does one guy hold such power over bitcoin, in general, through ownership of another company not tied directly to bitcoin?? 

I find that both weird and troubling.


Title: Re: What is going to happen with bitstamp down
Post by: maximum on January 08, 2014, 04:09:02 PM
So how does one guy hold such power over bitcoin, in general, through ownership of another company not tied directly to bitcoin?? 

I find that both weird and troubling.

because bitstamp is the best platform for bitcoin trading in EU right now in my opinion, site works flawless.

try bitcoin.de instead and it starts with the account creation being a pain in the ass.


Title: Re: What is going to happen with bitstamp down
Post by: bitrider on January 08, 2014, 04:09:49 PM
Market manipulation they're trying to prevent a crash.

you are hysterical.. :)


Title: Re: What is going to happen with bitstamp down
Post by: bambou on January 08, 2014, 04:10:35 PM
As far as i know There is nothing weird nor wrong concerning bitstamp. The company is located in UK and the owner is somehow involved with the bitcoin foundation and promoting bitcoin in a "honest" way. I would be more concerned about mtGox and their obvious problem regarding fiat withdrawal, which may become even more complicated whilst bitcoin gains in value and thus dramatically increase the amounts in stake. At some point it might just become impossible to withdraw cash over this exchange. Hence a possible shutdown?!  :-\



Title: Re: What is going to happen with bitstamp down
Post by: Chancellor on January 08, 2014, 04:33:22 PM
As far as i know There is nothing weird nor wrong concerning bitstamp. The company is located in UK and the owner is somehow involved with the bitcoin foundation and promoting bitcoin in a "honest" way. I would be more concerned about mtGox
True. When I've decided to have some adventure with bitcoin, I've applied for account verification on both MtGox and Bitstamp. During a month I've got Bitstamp account verified, managed to earn my first $50, then to loose them yesterday ;-). Anyway I'm still a learning noob, so kinda expected this ;). MtGox is still processing my verification and just changed "10 working days" to "20". It turned to be good for me as in the meantime I've read a lot and learned about where the MtGox vs Bitstamp spread comes from. So I've avoided "let's buy on Bitstamp then sell on MtGox" trap...

Yesterday incident in fact raised my trust in Bitstamp. I guess they were dealing with DDoS attack, and they dealt it well. The rest of their site and the trade system were running continuously. I was able to withdraw my BTC0.x to my private wallet while the main page was out. Transaction was processed in less than two minutes (and confirmed a minute later). Maybe I've panicked a bit, but anyway now I have decided to hold and wait, to get my $50 back ;-). Of course I will be back on Bitstamp then. In fact I have not withdrawn fiat from Bitstamp yet, but there are no complaints on Internet, while MtGox problems are broadly described. Then if MtGox finally approve my verification I will maybe sell some small amount of BTC there and try to withdraw fiat, to see for myself how many months it takes...


Title: Re: What is going to happen with bitstamp down
Post by: MEpatriot on January 08, 2014, 04:42:18 PM
I don't care how well or efficient or patriotic or smart or handsome the janitors are at bitstamp.

My point is, one individual should not have the power to affect the price of BTC as much as this cat apparently does.


Title: Re: What is going to happen with bitstamp down
Post by: Chancellor on January 08, 2014, 04:51:36 PM
My point is, one individual should not have the power to affect the price of BTC as much as this cat apparently does.
Apparently you seem to overestimate his power.


Title: Re: What is going to happen with bitstamp down
Post by: dg2010 on January 08, 2014, 04:59:41 PM
I don't care how well or efficient or patriotic or smart or handsome the janitors are at bitstamp.

My point is, one individual should not have the power to affect the price of BTC as much as this cat apparently does.

You must be new here. Back in the day we had MTGOX and that was it. They single handedly caused a number of huge crashes. Slowly but surely more and more exchanges are opening up. This does not happen overnight and we are a much better situation today than we were a few years ago. In any case, short of a completely decentralized exchange system (which isn't even possible today) then there will ALWAYS be market corrections due to exchange issues, all we can do is reduce them by having more exchanges. There is probably an optimal number though because ultimately an exchange is only worthwhile if there is enough volume.

P.S nothing wrong with Bitstamp at this time, this thread is fucking bullshit.


Title: Re: What is going to happen with bitstamp down
Post by: MEpatriot on January 08, 2014, 05:01:23 PM
I don't care how well or efficient or patriotic or smart or handsome the janitors are at bitstamp.

My point is, one individual should not have the power to affect the price of BTC as much as this cat apparently does.

You must be new here. Back in the day we had MTGOX and that was it and they single handedly caused a number of huge crashes. Slowly but surely more and more exchanges are opening up. This does not happen overnight and we are a much better situation today than we were a few years ago.

P.S nothing wrong with Bitstamp at this time, this thread is fucking bullshit.

OK...good to know.

I am new to all this, and glad to hear we are trending towards more and more decentralization of the levers of power v.v. bitcoin.