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Title: With so many miner in the market, what would be the BEST BUY out there???
Post by: LittleD on January 07, 2014, 07:14:48 PM
Please let me know what other ASIC Companies I should ADD!

*With so many miner in the market, what would be the BEST BUY out there???

*What ASIC miner would YOU BUY if you had the BTC ???

Thank you  :D


Title: Re: With so many miner in the market, what would be the BEST BUY out there???
Post by: AmericanBit on January 07, 2014, 07:23:53 PM
Firstly get BFL and Hashfast the hell out of there. And I would go with KNC...its a little pricey but we could be talking close to 4 TH/s with the Neptunes. People who say to just hold the bitcoin are idiots. They paid 45 bitcoins for TerraHash when btc was worth 100 bucks, so yeah in that case they totally got screwed. But btc is at 1000 now. I paid 10 btc each for 3 neptunes. So I would say there is a good chance that Ill get my investment back and a shit ton more. No one knows what the future will hold and when another sha256 coin could come out with great returns. Unobtanium was worth more than bitcoin a few weeks ago.


Title: Re: With so many miner in the market, what would be the BEST BUY out there???
Post by: LittleD on January 07, 2014, 07:29:53 PM
Firstly get BFL and Hashfast the hell out of there. And I would go with KNC...its a little pricey but we could be talking close to 4 TH/s with the Neptunes. People who say to just hold the bitcoin are idiots. They paid 45 bitcoins for TerraHash when btc was worth 100 bucks, so yeah in that case they totally got screwed. But btc is at 1000 now. I paid 10 btc each for 3 neptunes. So I would say there is a good chance that Ill get my investment back and a shit ton more. No one knows what the future will hold and when another sha256 coin could come out with great returns. Unobtanium was worth more than bitcoin a few weeks ago.

YOU ARE SO Right! But the thing is...there's still dummies.... I mean people out there buying from them and I would like see how many are out there ("People" )


Title: Re: With so many miner in the market, what would be the BEST BUY out there???
Post by: xdigital on January 07, 2014, 08:58:52 PM
I would rather pay ASIS device with money than bitcoin.
I paid 1.5BTC for a Jalapeno (ButterflyLabs) in April 2013. Received in mid Nov 2013.
I don't think I will ever get back that 1.5BTC.
Unless the difficulty as some point stops increasing.



Title: Re: With so many miner in the market, what would be the BEST BUY out there???
Post by: AmericanBit on January 07, 2014, 09:42:28 PM
I would rather pay ASIS device with money than bitcoin.
I paid 1.5BTC for a Jalapeno (ButterflyLabs) in April 2013. Received in mid Nov 2013.
I don't think I will ever get back that 1.5BTC.
Unless the difficulty as some point stops increasing.



Well then youll never get that back...never order from BFL...tell everyone


Title: Re: With so many miner in the market, what would be the BEST BUY out there???
Post by: rammy2k2 on January 07, 2014, 10:36:15 PM
there aint no miners on the market ... just Antminers .. thats it ...


Title: Re: With so many miner in the market, what would be the BEST BUY out there???
Post by: LittleD on January 07, 2014, 10:38:15 PM
there aint no miners on the market ... just Antminers .. thats it ...

Sooo.... is Antminer another ASIC company ??? can you post the website ?


Title: Re: With so many miner in the market, what would be the BEST BUY out there???
Post by: markm on January 07, 2014, 10:54:13 PM
If BFL is the only company actually shipping that is kind of ironic. (They just sent me tracking link on a very recent order  of some of their off the shelf sale units...)

-MarkM-


Title: Re: With so many miner in the market, what would be the BEST BUY out there???
Post by: LittleD on January 07, 2014, 10:55:59 PM
If BFL is the only company actually shipping that is kind of ironic. (They just sent me tracking link on a very recent order  of some of their off the shelf sale units...)

-MarkM-


WoW Good to hear :) Hope it works out for more Bros out there :)
Did you vote for BFL?


Title: Re: With so many miner in the market, what would be the BEST BUY out there???
Post by: Flying Hellfish on January 07, 2014, 10:58:09 PM
You should add Bitmine, they have a working 28nm chip and miners expected to ship sooooooooon lol


Title: Re: With so many miner in the market, what would be the BEST BUY out there???
Post by: markm on January 07, 2014, 11:00:38 PM
I didn't vote. I stupidly ordered four BFL 50 GH units (more flexible to plug in than the larger unit maybe) and strangely they already got a FedEx tracking number for it. So FedEx presumably will pick it up some day soon and start moving it toward me.

I find it really strange and amusing actually. Whatever happened to waiting five months to five years?

At this rate I might even get it within "two weeks" instead of "two weeks (tm)". I should look up exactly what day I ordered it, It was, like really frakkin recent. Totally weird.

-MarkM-



Title: Re: With so many miner in the market, what would be the BEST BUY out there???
Post by: AmericanBit on January 07, 2014, 11:20:09 PM
I didn't vote. I stupidly ordered four BFL 50 GH units (more flexible to plug in than the larger unit maybe) and strangely they already got a FedEx tracking number for it. So FedEx presumably will pick it up some day soon and start moving it toward me.

I find it really strange and amusing actually. Whatever happened to waiting five months to five years?

At this rate I might even get it within "two weeks" instead of "two weeks (tm)". I should look up exactly what day I ordered it, It was, like really frakkin recent. Totally weird.

-MarkM-



Wait, off the shelf units? That means it was one of the ones they list as "ready to ship" on their website?


Title: Re: With so many miner in the market, what would be the BEST BUY out there???
Post by: markm on January 07, 2014, 11:21:49 PM
Yeah. Amazing, isn't it?

They might actually arrive before I get my 400 amp service set up at my country-house so they'll sit here idle like some of my Klondikes already are, due to lack of power to power them. I only ordered them like last thursday or something like that, maybe friday even. Or maybe wednesday. Totally shocking.

But I know from the two I already got that took like five or six months to reach this stage that once they claim they are shipped it still could be a while before FedEx actually goes and picks them up.

-MarkM-


Title: Re: With so many miner in the market, what would be the BEST BUY out there???
Post by: AmericanBit on January 08, 2014, 12:12:22 AM
Well its kind of amazing that its ready to ship, and its almost been a week and you still dont know if its actually shipped. The really amazing/sad, depends on how you look at it is; youre actually impressed with that. Just goes to show how low expectations are for BFL bullshit. Now they are at CES showing off their bullshit, conning more people and giving bitcoin a bad name. Whats even better is they are showcasing the monarch while a thousand people are still waiting on it 6 months later. THAT is amazing!


Title: Re: With so many miner in the market, what would be the BEST BUY out there???
Post by: Khanduras on January 08, 2014, 12:17:17 AM
BFL has been shipping in stock units on time, but to be honest it's rather pointless. Even at under $1000 a piece now, the 50GHash miners (which seem to run steady at 55 - 58) won't have any chance of making an ROI at this point. I would have voted for them if this conversation took place a month ago, but now... yeesh.

Honestly, though, if you're wanting to do this on a hobby level, you're better off realizing you're very unlikely to make an ROI unless you pay way under manufacturer prices for these devices. Your best bet is doing some calculations and trying to make some deals on second-hand equipment. It's what I've been sticking to lately, and I plan on continuing to do so.


Title: Re: With so many miner in the market, what would be the BEST BUY out there???
Post by: LittleD on January 08, 2014, 12:26:52 AM
BFL has been shipping in stock units on time, but to be honest it's rather pointless. Even at under $1000 a piece now, the 50GHash miners (which seem to run steady at 55 - 58) won't have any chance of making an ROI at this point. I would have voted for them if this conversation took place a month ago, but now... yeesh.

Honestly, though, if you're wanting to do this on a hobby level, you're better off realizing you're very unlikely to make an ROI unless you pay way under manufacturer prices for these devices. Your best bet is doing some calculations and trying to make some deals on second-hand equipment. It's what I've been sticking to lately, and I plan on continuing to do so.

Good Info ~ thanks  ;D


Title: Re: With so many miner in the market, what would be the BEST BUY out there???
Post by: empoweoqwj on January 08, 2014, 02:33:24 AM
you left out the options of buying shares in mining companies like ASICMINER


Title: Re: With so many miner in the market, what would be the BEST BUY out there???
Post by: Xer0 on January 08, 2014, 02:40:45 AM
Bitmain and Antminer are the same!

trollvoted BFL, they will need it


Title: Re: With so many miner in the market, what would be the BEST BUY out there???
Post by: LittleD on January 08, 2014, 03:18:44 AM
Bitmain and Antminer are the same!

trollvoted BFL, they will need it

Thanks brother :)


Title: Re: With so many miner in the market, what would be the BEST BUY out there???
Post by: Flying Hellfish on January 08, 2014, 03:20:18 AM
Bitmain and Antminer are the same!

trollvoted BFL, they will need it

Thanks brother :)

You got something against Bitmine?  Why don't you add them?


Title: Re: With so many miner in the market, what would be the BEST BUY out there???
Post by: LittleD on January 08, 2014, 03:21:48 AM
Bitmain and Antminer are the same!

trollvoted BFL, they will need it

Thanks brother :)

You got something against Bitmine?  Why don't you add them?

lol no Ill add them but i would like to see a website on the miner?


Title: Re: With so many miner in the market, what would be the BEST BUY out there???
Post by: Flying Hellfish on January 08, 2014, 03:25:19 AM
Bitmain and Antminer are the same!

trollvoted BFL, they will need it

Thanks brother :)

You got something against Bitmine?  Why don't you add them?

lol no Ill add them but i would like to see a website on the miner?


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=291141.0
http://bitmine.ch/

LOL you have AMt on there and they are using Bitmine chips but don't have bitmine on the list?


Title: Re: With so many miner in the market, what would be the BEST BUY out there???
Post by: LittleD on January 08, 2014, 03:28:02 AM
Bitmain and Antminer are the same!

trollvoted BFL, they will need it

Thanks brother :)

You got something against Bitmine?  Why don't you add them?

lol no Ill add them but i would like to see a website on the miner?


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=291141.0
http://bitmine.ch/

LOL you have AMt on there and they are using Bitmine chips but don't have bitmine on the list?

:0) Sorry, you can vote now :) lol


Title: Re: With so many miner in the market, what would be the BEST BUY out there???
Post by: Flying Hellfish on January 08, 2014, 03:30:40 AM
Bitmain and Antminer are the same!

trollvoted BFL, they will need it

Thanks brother :)

You got something against Bitmine?  Why don't you add them?

lol no Ill add them but i would like to see a website on the miner?


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=291141.0
http://bitmine.ch/

LOL you have AMt on there and they are using Bitmine chips but don't have bitmine on the list?

:0) Sorry, you can vote now :) lol

LOL I already voted bro! I'm not a BTC ASIC miner (I voted buy and hold), just thought they should be included as they are way ahead of some of the others on the list ie they have their working 28nm silicon!

You also forgot bASIC!!!!!!!!!!!!! (that's a joke btw)


Title: Re: With so many miner in the market, what would be the BEST BUY out there???
Post by: Zelek Uther on January 08, 2014, 09:01:43 AM
Why is Bitmine so often forgotten?



Title: Re: With so many miner in the market, what would be the BEST BUY out there???
Post by: dplusf on January 08, 2014, 09:12:07 AM
Why is Bitmine so often forgotten?


hey thats exactly what i was thinking every time i see how much pages the official bitmine thread has... and how much knc has at the same time of development. :-)
hopefully their underestimated, because i've ordered 4 machines from them.


Title: Re: With so many miner in the market, what would be the BEST BUY out there???
Post by: Soros Shorts on January 08, 2014, 10:36:45 AM
Why is Bitmine so often forgotten?


Probably because they never hired shills?


Title: Re: With so many miner in the market, what would be the BEST BUY out there???
Post by: markm on January 08, 2014, 01:19:35 PM
FedEx now admits they picked up my BFL units yesterday and expect to deliver them to me friday.

ROI on a bitcoin basis is maybe looking unlikely sure, but my plan is to go solar so I hope to stretch out their usable lifetime plus I evidently cannot trust other miners to merge all the merged mined coins so I need to do my own merged mining.

-MarkM-


Title: Re: With so many miner in the market, what would be the BEST BUY out there???
Post by: LittleD on January 08, 2014, 05:56:04 PM
Here's another good thread to read, It give you great info:
Asic vendor review (WIP)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=403459.0

GOOOD JOB Puppet
 ;)
BTCBTCBTCBTCBTCBTCBTCBTCBTCBTCBTCBTCBTCBTCBTCBTCBTCBTCBTCBTCBTCBTCBTCBTCBTC


Title: Re: With so many miner in the market, what would be the BEST BUY out there???
Post by: empoweoqwj on January 09, 2014, 02:26:56 AM
Here's another good thread to read, It give you great info:
Asic vendor review (WIP)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=403459.0

GOOOD JOB Puppet
 ;)
BTCBTCBTCBTCBTCBTCBTCBTCBTCBTCBTCBTCBTCBTCBTCBTCBTCBTCBTCBTCBTCBTCBTCBTCBTC

Great thread. I missed that. A very good summary.


Title: Re: With so many miner in the market, what would be the BEST BUY out there???
Post by: LittleD on January 13, 2014, 01:10:17 AM
Which ASIC Company would you Invest In ?
Cointerra   - 21 (11.5%)
Kncminer   - 51 (28%)
HashFast   - 4 (2.2%)
BUTTERFLY LABs :/   - 6 (3.3%)
Terrahash   - 0 (0%)
Black Arrow   - 20 (11%)
Alpha Technology   - 6 (3.3%)
Bitmain/Antminer   - 24 (13.2%)
Technobit   - 3 (1.6%)
AMT   - 5 (2.7%)
Bitmine   - 2 (1.1%)
Ninjatech   - 0 (0%)
reserved/Open (please dont vote)   - 0 (0%)
Invest in a Group Buy (less risky)   - 5 (2.7%)
Just buy BTC and sit on them (why take the risk)   - 35 (19.2%)


Title: Re: With so many miner in the market, what would be the BEST BUY out there???
Post by: empoweoqwj on January 13, 2014, 03:45:47 AM
Which ASIC Company would you Invest In ?
Cointerra   - 21 (11.5%)
Kncminer   - 51 (28%)
HashFast   - 4 (2.2%)
BUTTERFLY LABs :/   - 6 (3.3%)
Terrahash   - 0 (0%)
Black Arrow   - 20 (11%)
Alpha Technology   - 6 (3.3%)
Bitmain/Antminer   - 24 (13.2%)
Technobit   - 3 (1.6%)
AMT   - 5 (2.7%)
Bitmine   - 2 (1.1%)
Ninjatech   - 0 (0%)
reserved/Open (please dont vote)   - 0 (0%)
Invest in a Group Buy (less risky)   - 5 (2.7%)
Just buy BTC and sit on them (why take the risk)   - 35 (19.2%)

Interesting only Kncminer beats "Just buy BTC and sit on them". Shows the lack of confidence in ASIC companies, plus coming difficulty increases.

There is an option not there ..... buy shares in ASICMINER ... they are coming back big time in April ;)


Title: Re: With so many miner in the market, what would be the BEST BUY out there???
Post by: miaviator on January 13, 2014, 04:30:47 AM
Unicorn Hasher is not on the list?

Beats the wings off of a BFL: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=412586.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=412586.0)


Title: Re: With so many miner in the market, what would be the BEST BUY out there???
Post by: Sitarow on January 13, 2014, 05:35:31 AM
Well I have update the shared document that compares hardware return bassed on speculative network speed vs expected arrival dates.

Its simple to use and you should make a copy for yourself.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmeuPljmUNHCdEpqX2RmMDFwemJyLURVUWFtZ3J3aGc&usp=sharing


Title: Re: With so many miner in the market, what would be the BEST BUY out there???
Post by: LittleD on January 13, 2014, 06:06:42 AM
Well I have update the shared document that compares hardware return bassed on speculative network speed vs expected arrival dates.

Its simple to use and you should make a copy for yourself.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmeuPljmUNHCdEpqX2RmMDFwemJyLURVUWFtZ3J3aGc&usp=sharing

LOOks good  8)


Title: Re: With so many miner in the market, what would be the BEST BUY out there???
Post by: xstr8guy on January 13, 2014, 08:04:18 AM
Why isn't Bitfury on the list?  They're shipping from stock.


Title: Re: With so many miner in the market, what would be the BEST BUY out there???
Post by: empoweoqwj on January 13, 2014, 10:28:25 AM
Why isn't Bitfury on the list?  They're shipping from stock.

Bitfury is in the spreadsheet :)


Title: Re: With so many miner in the market, what would be the BEST BUY out there???
Post by: LittleD on January 15, 2014, 06:32:59 PM
Why isn't Bitfury on the list?  They're shipping from stock.

Added to the poll


Title: Re: With so many miner in the market, what would be the BEST BUY out there???
Post by: empoweoqwj on January 16, 2014, 03:18:08 AM
Why isn't Bitfury on the list?  They're shipping from stock.

I almost had a heart attack when I read "shipping from stock". Is this a 1st for an ASIC mining company? ;)


Title: Re: With so many miner in the market, what would be the BEST BUY out there???
Post by: LittleD on January 16, 2014, 06:43:17 AM
https://www.bitmaintech.com/product.htm





Title: Re: With so many miner in the market, what would be the BEST BUY out there???
Post by: empoweoqwj on January 17, 2014, 04:01:38 AM
https://www.bitmaintech.com/product.htm





"Web site is down for maintenance, please wait ..." ;)


Title: Re: With so many miner in the market, what would be the BEST BUY out there???
Post by: LittleD on January 21, 2014, 04:37:24 AM
https://www.bitmaintech.com/product.htm





"Web site is down for maintenance, please wait ..." ;)

its back up :)


Title: Re: With so many miner in the market, what would be the BEST BUY out there???
Post by: empoweoqwj on January 21, 2014, 04:56:07 AM
https://www.bitmaintech.com/product.htm





"Web site is down for maintenance, please wait ..." ;)

its back up :)

Yeah!!

Why don't you put the prices on the products page? Just a UX thing? Forcing people to click through just to see prices .....


Title: Re: With so many miner in the market, what would be the BEST BUY out there???
Post by: LittleD on January 26, 2014, 08:08:12 PM
https://www.bitmaintech.com/product.htm





"Web site is down for maintenance, please wait ..." ;)

its back up :)

Yeah!!

Why don't you put the prices on the products page? Just a UX thing? Forcing people to click through just to see prices .....

Lol I think you have me mixed up - lol


Title: Re: With so many miner in the market, what would be the BEST BUY out there???
Post by: xdigital on March 17, 2014, 04:43:50 PM
Firstly get BFL and Hashfast the hell out of there. And I would go with KNC...its a little pricey but we could be talking close to 4 TH/s with the Neptunes. People who say to just hold the bitcoin are idiots. They paid 45 bitcoins for TerraHash when btc was worth 100 bucks, so yeah in that case they totally got screwed. But btc is at 1000 now. I paid 10 btc each for 3 neptunes. So I would say there is a good chance that Ill get my investment back and a shit ton more. No one knows what the future will hold and when another sha256 coin could come out with great returns. Unobtanium was worth more than bitcoin a few weeks ago.

Well then youll never get that back...never order from BFL...tell everyone

Do you think you will get 30BTC back from your 3 neptunes?