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Title: question about the FBI bitcoins from Silkroad
Post by: mskryxz on January 08, 2014, 04:15:23 AM
I know they have the bitcoins.

My question is, does the FBI/Govt have access to move them around or are they still locked out since it is encrypted?

I always hear mixed stories on the forums or on reddit that yes it has moved around or no they don't have access.

So what is it?


Title: Re: question about the FBI bitcoins from Silkroad
Post by: jongameson on January 08, 2014, 02:54:28 PM
what was wrong with Silk Road?  why did they have to shut it down?


don't we as a country need *some* kind of a system for drug distribution?


Title: Re: question about the FBI bitcoins from Silkroad
Post by: Kungfucheez on January 08, 2014, 02:57:16 PM
what was wrong with Silk Road?  why did they shut it down?



Take a guess why

As for if they have access. I don't know


Title: Re: question about the FBI bitcoins from Silkroad
Post by: jongameson on January 08, 2014, 02:57:56 PM
what was wrong with Silk Road?  why did they shut it down?



Take a guess why

to spike the price of bitcoin?


Title: Re: question about the FBI bitcoins from Silkroad
Post by: Kungfucheez on January 08, 2014, 02:59:46 PM
what was wrong with Silk Road?  why did they shut it down?



Take a guess why

don't we as a country need *some* kind of a system for drug distribution?

or did they just do it to spike the price of bitcoin

We already have one. And that works fine for many people. Not so fine for others. I'm not sure though if necessarily bitcoins are traceable.

It wasn't to spike the price of bitcoins though. It's just the same reason they bust criminals in real life. It's not about profit, but stopping people doing things which are illegal.  


Title: Re: question about the FBI bitcoins from Silkroad
Post by: jongameson on January 08, 2014, 03:01:21 PM
what was wrong with Silk Road?  why did they shut it down?



Take a guess why

don't we as a country need *some* kind of a system for drug distribution?

or did they just do it to spike the price of bitcoin

We already have one. And that works fine for many people. Not so fine for others. I'm not sure though if necessarily bitcoins are traceable.  

oh so Colorado is the only state that doesn't like to mix weed with a criminal element??


Title: Re: question about the FBI bitcoins from Silkroad
Post by: Kungfucheez on January 08, 2014, 03:02:29 PM
Silk Road was selling much more then just weed...


Title: Re: question about the FBI bitcoins from Silkroad
Post by: jongameson on January 08, 2014, 03:03:09 PM
Silk Road was selling much more then just weed...

what difference does it make?  i'm an average American citizen with a right to happiness


Title: Re: question about the FBI bitcoins from Silkroad
Post by: mprep on January 08, 2014, 03:05:39 PM
Silk Road was selling much more then just weed...

what difference does it make?  i'm an average American citizen with a right to happiness...  ALTHOUGH.  i think if the govt. helped me in determining if what I was doing was actually resulting in happiness, that would be great.  cause sometimes i don't know  ???
You have to abide the law as well.


Title: Re: question about the FBI bitcoins from Silkroad
Post by: Kungfucheez on January 08, 2014, 03:07:16 PM
Silk Road was selling much more then just weed...

what difference does it make?  i'm an average American citizen with a right to liberty, prosperity, and happiness..   ::)

You're right, you are, still doesn't mean you have the right to break the law that can cause others disparity. Just because you are a citizen doesn't make you above everyone else


Title: Re: question about the FBI bitcoins from Silkroad
Post by: jongameson on January 08, 2014, 03:07:23 PM
Silk Road was selling much more then just weed...

what difference does it make?  i'm an average American citizen with a right to happiness...  ALTHOUGH.  i think if the govt. helped me in determining if what I was doing was actually resulting in happiness, that would be great.  cause sometimes i don't know  ???
You have to abide the law as well.

says who?  this is the land of Freedom. AMERICA
this is the LAND WHOM I SING SONGS ABOUT!

i'm not hurting no one.  when i choose to use pot instead of drinking bleach??


Title: Re: question about the FBI bitcoins from Silkroad
Post by: mprep on January 08, 2014, 03:08:53 PM
Silk Road was selling much more then just weed...

what difference does it make?  i'm an average American citizen with a right to happiness...  ALTHOUGH.  i think if the govt. helped me in determining if what I was doing was actually resulting in happiness, that would be great.  cause sometimes i don't know  ???
You have to abide the law as well.

says who?  this is the land of Freedom. AMERICA
this is WHOM I SING SONGS ABOUT.

i'm not hurting no one.  when i choose to use pot instead of bath salts??
Well if you live in a country, you have to obey it's laws or you'll suffer repercussions.


Title: Re: question about the FBI bitcoins from Silkroad
Post by: Dr Bloggood on January 08, 2014, 03:09:45 PM
Silk Road was selling much more then just weed...

what difference does it make?  i'm an average American citizen with a right to happiness...  ALTHOUGH.  i think if the govt. helped me in determining if what I was doing was actually resulting in happiness, that would be great.  cause sometimes i don't know  ???

Often, short-term satisfaction is detrimental to long-term happiness...


Title: Re: question about the FBI bitcoins from Silkroad
Post by: Kungfucheez on January 08, 2014, 03:11:01 PM
Silk Road was selling much more then just weed...

what difference does it make?  i'm an average American citizen with a right to happiness...  ALTHOUGH.  i think if the govt. helped me in determining if what I was doing was actually resulting in happiness, that would be great.  cause sometimes i don't know  ???
You have to abide the law as well.

says who?  this is the land of Freedom. AMERICA
this is the LAND WHOM I SING SONGS ABOUT!

i'm not hurting no one.  when i choose to use pot instead of bath salts??

Well, your arguing about weed. I'm not. A case can be made for marijuana sure, but we're talking about other things silk road was doing


Title: Re: question about the FBI bitcoins from Silkroad
Post by: jongameson on January 08, 2014, 03:12:58 PM
Silk Road was selling much more then just weed...

what difference does it make?  i'm an average American citizen with a right to happiness...  ALTHOUGH.  i think if the govt. helped me in determining if what I was doing was actually resulting in happiness, that would be great.  cause sometimes i don't know  ???
You have to abide the law as well.

says who?  this is the land of Freedom. AMERICA
this is the LAND WHOM I SING SONGS ABOUT!

i'm not hurting no one.  when i choose to use pot instead of bath salts??

Well, your arguing about weed. I'm not. A case can be made for marijuana sure, but we're talking about other things silk road was doing   ;D

people will eventually understand that opiates give them constipation and STOP taking them.  same with methamphetamine and other drugs

and ONLINE SITE KEEPS PEOPLE AWAY FROM *PUSHERS* who CONSTANTLY HARASS THEM TO HANG


Title: Re: question about the FBI bitcoins from Silkroad
Post by: Kungfucheez on January 08, 2014, 03:13:54 PM
Depends on your state laws, weed is slowly becoming more accepted and that's fine by me.

But if you were a responsible adult, you wouldn't need to smoke weed to find satisfaction in life.


Title: Re: question about the FBI bitcoins from Silkroad
Post by: mprep on January 08, 2014, 03:14:56 PM
Depends on your state laws, weed is slowly becoming more accepted and that's fine by me.

But if you were a responsible adult, you wouldn't need to smoke weed to find satisfaction in life.
Yeah, you can relax while gaming.  :D


Title: Re: question about the FBI bitcoins from Silkroad
Post by: Kungfucheez on January 08, 2014, 03:18:03 PM
Depends on your state laws, weed is slowly becoming more accepted and that's fine by me.

But if you were a responsible adult, you wouldn't need to smoke weed to find satisfaction in life.
Yeah, you can relax while gaming.  :D

lol, that's why man invented beer :D j/k

Anyways. Silk Road got shut down because they were trafficking hitmen, forgery papers, illegal customs goods, every drug known to man, firearms, and a whole shit ton of other incredibly illegal shit.


Title: Re: question about the FBI bitcoins from Silkroad
Post by: mprep on January 08, 2014, 03:22:05 PM
Depends on your state laws, weed is slowly becoming more accepted and that's fine by me.

But if you were a responsible adult, you wouldn't need to smoke weed to find satisfaction in life.
Yeah, you can relax while gaming.  :D

gaming gives me headaches.  anything with 3D..  and candy crush sucks.  i prefer TV and mining ;D
Candy crush ain't gaming, it's a time waster. Skyrim, CS:GO, CS 1.6, BF4 and so on is.


Title: Re: question about the FBI bitcoins from Silkroad
Post by: Kungfucheez on January 08, 2014, 03:37:45 PM
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all that stuff will eventually work itself out.  and morals will *ALWAYS* win

lol now that's just funny  :D

But anyways, no one says you can't enjoy herb, just buy it the old fashioned way like most people do. Plus the legality of it is slowly becoming diminished as more states Decriminalize it so you shouldn't worry in the first place if you want to smoke bud



Title: Re: question about the FBI bitcoins from Silkroad
Post by: mprep on January 08, 2014, 03:41:57 PM
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all that stuff will eventually work itself out.  and morals will *ALWAYS* win

lol now that's just funny  :D

But anyways, no one says you can't enjoy herb, just buy it the old fashioned way like most people do. Plus the legality of it is slowly becoming diminished as more states Decriminalize it so you shouldn't worry in the first place if you want to smoke bud


Well, I think you should wait until it's decriminalized legal where you buy it or consume it.


Title: Re: question about the FBI bitcoins from Silkroad
Post by: jongameson on January 08, 2014, 03:44:31 PM
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all that stuff will eventually work itself out.  and morals will *ALWAYS* win

lol now that's just funny  :D

But anyways, no one says you can't enjoy herb, just buy it the old fashioned way like most people do. Plus the legality of it is slowly becoming diminished as more states Decriminalize it so you shouldn't worry in the first place if you want to smoke bud


Well, I think you should wait until it's decriminalized where you buy it or consume it.

definitely.  wait. no not decriminalized.  but perfectly legalized.  getting caught is NOT what i'm worried about.  it's the fact that it's ILLEGAL in the first place.  making me question WHY?  i honestly think superstitiously that everything has a reason.  


Title: Re: question about the FBI bitcoins from Silkroad
Post by: mprep on January 08, 2014, 03:45:54 PM
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all that stuff will eventually work itself out.  and morals will *ALWAYS* win

lol now that's just funny  :D

But anyways, no one says you can't enjoy herb, just buy it the old fashioned way like most people do. Plus the legality of it is slowly becoming diminished as more states Decriminalize it so you shouldn't worry in the first place if you want to smoke bud


Well, I think you should wait until it's decriminalized legal where you buy it or consume it.

definitely.  wait. no not decriminalized.  but perfectly legalized.  getting caught is NOT what i'm worried about.  it's the fact that it's ILLEGAL in the first place.  making me question WHY?  is it because if i use it the girl of my dreams won't like me??  probably.  this is why i choose to wait  :/
Yeah, sorry for my choice of words. I meant legal.


Title: Re: question about the FBI bitcoins from Silkroad
Post by: cryptozark on January 08, 2014, 03:48:28 PM
No one has actually answered the OP's original question.  Do the FBI actually have the private keys and the ability to transfer the Bitcoins they have seized?

Also, whoever thinks the FBI weren't going to try and shut down the Silk Road obviously had no idea what they were selling on there.  Pot was definitely not the issue.


Title: Re: question about the FBI bitcoins from Silkroad
Post by: EvilPanda on January 08, 2014, 03:50:04 PM
Depends on your state laws, weed is slowly becoming more accepted and that's fine by me.

But if you were a responsible adult, you wouldn't need to smoke weed to find satisfaction in life.
Yeah, you can relax while gaming.  :D

gaming gives me headaches.  anything with 3D..  and candy crush sucks.  i prefer TV and mining ;D
Candy crush ain't gaming, it's a time waster. Skyrim, CS:GO, CS 1.6, BF4 and so on is.
BF4 is a bugged shit.

Illegal, I love this word. It basically says that if someone with power decides you can't do something you just can't because you are inferior and have to obey. If you were a slave working on a plantation it was illegal for you to leave without owner's permition, it used to be illegal for women to wear short skirts and so on. Now they say you can't smoke weed, you obey because it's ILLEGAL. What if someone said drinking coffee is illegal, or watching porn?  ;)


Title: Re: question about the FBI bitcoins from Silkroad
Post by: mprep on January 08, 2014, 03:53:12 PM
No one has actually answered the OP's original question.  Do the FBI actually have the private keys and the ability to transfer the Bitcoins they have seized?

Also, whoever thinks the FBI weren't going to try and shut down the Silk Road obviously had no idea what they were selling on there.  Pot was definitely not the issue.
They have the private key but they can't legally spend it. If Ross was convicted (or if he already was,  I'm really lazy to google it), it would be sold to the highest bidder on an auction or something like that.


Title: Re: question about the FBI bitcoins from Silkroad
Post by: mprep on January 08, 2014, 03:56:11 PM
No one has actually answered the OP's original question.  Do the FBI actually have the private keys and the ability to transfer the Bitcoins they have seized?

Also, whoever thinks the FBI weren't going to try and shut down the Silk Road obviously had no idea what they were selling on there.  Pot was definitely not the issue.
They have the private key but they can't legally spend it. If he Ross was convicted (or if he already was,  I'm really lazy to google it), it would be sold to the highest bidder on an auction or something like that.

i'll start the bidding at 0.056 bitcoins
You have to physically participate in the auction and bet fiat, specifically US dollars.


Title: Re: question about the FBI bitcoins from Silkroad
Post by: Kungfucheez on January 08, 2014, 04:05:31 PM
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If someone with power decides you can't do something you just can't because you are inferior and have to obey.

lmao

What are you even talking about. Depends on the country, but America is a Democratic Republic, not a tyranny.


Title: Re: question about the FBI bitcoins from Silkroad
Post by: mprep on January 08, 2014, 04:13:42 PM
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If someone with power decides you can't do something you just can't because you are inferior and have to obey.

lmao

What are you even talking about. Depends on the country, but America is a Democratic Republic, not a tyranny.
Yeah, but laws get enforced and if you don't obey, you get fined, jailed or otherwise punished. Just in a democratic country you can start a petition and if you gather enough signatures they might change the law.


Title: Re: question about the FBI bitcoins from Silkroad
Post by: Kungfucheez on January 08, 2014, 04:19:04 PM
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If someone with power decides you can't do something you just can't because you are inferior and have to obey.

lmao

What are you even talking about. Depends on the country, but America is a Democratic Republic, not a tyranny.
Yeah, but laws get enforced and if you don't obey, you get fined, jailed or otherwise punished. Just in a democratic country you can start a petition and if you gather enough signatures they might change the law.

Not every law is enforced. There's a difference.


Title: Re: question about the FBI bitcoins from Silkroad
Post by: mprep on January 08, 2014, 04:19:49 PM
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If someone with power decides you can't do something you just can't because you are inferior and have to obey.

lmao

What are you even talking about. Depends on the country, but America is a Democratic Republic, not a tyranny.
Yeah, but laws get enforced and if you don't obey, you get fined, jailed or otherwise punished. Just in a democratic country you can start a petition and if you gather enough signatures they might change the law.

Not every law is enforced. There's a difference.
They are enforced if you disobey it.


Title: Re: question about the FBI bitcoins from Silkroad
Post by: Kungfucheez on January 08, 2014, 04:22:31 PM
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If someone with power decides you can't do something you just can't because you are inferior and have to obey.

lmao

What are you even talking about. Depends on the country, but America is a Democratic Republic, not a tyranny.
Yeah, but laws get enforced and if you don't obey, you get fined, jailed or otherwise punished. Just in a democratic country you can start a petition and if you gather enough signatures they might change the law.

Not every law is enforced. There's a difference.
They are enforced if you disobey it.

Depends on whatever crime or violation they find you doing. And if they even find you doing it. People get away with things every day


Title: Re: question about the FBI bitcoins from Silkroad
Post by: mprep on January 08, 2014, 04:28:58 PM
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If someone with power decides you can't do something you just can't because you are inferior and have to obey.

lmao

What are you even talking about. Depends on the country, but America is a Democratic Republic, not a tyranny.
Yeah, but laws get enforced and if you don't obey, you get fined, jailed or otherwise punished. Just in a democratic country you can start a petition and if you gather enough signatures they might change the law.

Not every law is enforced. There's a difference.
They are enforced if you disobey it.

Depends on whatever crime or violation they find you doing. And if they even find you doing it. People get away with things every day
The case of finding out the crime is strongly hinten upon in my posts. Also, they might not catch you, but they may uncover evidence leading to you.


Title: Re: question about the FBI bitcoins from Silkroad
Post by: EvilPanda on January 08, 2014, 04:37:20 PM
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If someone with power decides you can't do something you just can't because you are inferior and have to obey.

lmao

What are you even talking about. Depends on the country, but America is a Democratic Republic, not a tyranny.
Yeah, but laws get enforced and if you don't obey, you get fined, jailed or otherwise punished. Just in a democratic country you can start a petition and if you gather enough signatures they might change the law.

Not every law is enforced. There's a difference.
They are enforced if you disobey it.

Depends on whatever crime or violation they find you doing. And if they even find you doing it. People get away with things every day
The case of finding out the crime is strongly hinten upon in my posts. Also, they might not catch you, but they may uncover evidence leading to you.
You guys really believe in democracy? There's no real democracy, you're just dancing to their music.


Title: Re: question about the FBI bitcoins from Silkroad
Post by: Kungfucheez on January 08, 2014, 04:42:17 PM
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If someone with power decides you can't do something you just can't because you are inferior and have to obey.

lmao

What are you even talking about. Depends on the country, but America is a Democratic Republic, not a tyranny.
Yeah, but laws get enforced and if you don't obey, you get fined, jailed or otherwise punished. Just in a democratic country you can start a petition and if you gather enough signatures they might change the law.

Not every law is enforced. There's a difference.
They are enforced if you disobey it.

Depends on whatever crime or violation they find you doing. And if they even find you doing it. People get away with things every day
The case of finding out the crime is strongly hinten upon in my posts. Also, they might not catch you, but they may uncover evidence leading to you.
You guys really believe in democracy? There's no real democracy, you're just dancing to their music.

It's worked pretty well so far


Title: Re: question about the FBI bitcoins from Silkroad
Post by: mprep on January 08, 2014, 04:49:00 PM
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If someone with power decides you can't do something you just can't because you are inferior and have to obey.

lmao

What are you even talking about. Depends on the country, but America is a Democratic Republic, not a tyranny.
Yeah, but laws get enforced and if you don't obey, you get fined, jailed or otherwise punished. Just in a democratic country you can start a petition and if you gather enough signatures they might change the law.

Not every law is enforced. There's a difference.
They are enforced if you disobey it.

Depends on whatever crime or violation they find you doing. And if they even find you doing it. People get away with things every day
The case of finding out the crime is strongly hinten upon in my posts. Also, they might not catch you, but they may uncover evidence leading to you.
You guys really believe in democracy? There's no real democracy, you're just dancing to their music.
Well it's the best we've got. It's currently working so nobody's fixing it.


Title: Re: question about the FBI bitcoins from Silkroad
Post by: EvilPanda on January 08, 2014, 04:53:43 PM
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If someone with power decides you can't do something you just can't because you are inferior and have to obey.

lmao

What are you even talking about. Depends on the country, but America is a Democratic Republic, not a tyranny.
Yeah, but laws get enforced and if you don't obey, you get fined, jailed or otherwise punished. Just in a democratic country you can start a petition and if you gather enough signatures they might change the law.

Not every law is enforced. There's a difference.
They are enforced if you disobey it.

Depends on whatever crime or violation they find you doing. And if they even find you doing it. People get away with things every day
The case of finding out the crime is strongly hinten upon in my posts. Also, they might not catch you, but they may uncover evidence leading to you.
You guys really believe in democracy? There's no real democracy, you're just dancing to their music.

It's worked pretty well so far
So that's why marijuana is illegal? Because the people want it to be? I could name countless instances of governments acting against the majority of voters in so called "democratic countries"


Title: Re: question about the FBI bitcoins from Silkroad
Post by: mprep on January 08, 2014, 04:56:09 PM
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If someone with power decides you can't do something you just can't because you are inferior and have to obey.

lmao

What are you even talking about. Depends on the country, but America is a Democratic Republic, not a tyranny.
Yeah, but laws get enforced and if you don't obey, you get fined, jailed or otherwise punished. Just in a democratic country you can start a petition and if you gather enough signatures they might change the law.

Not every law is enforced. There's a difference.
They are enforced if you disobey it.

Depends on whatever crime or violation they find you doing. And if they even find you doing it. People get away with things every day
The case of finding out the crime is strongly hinten upon in my posts. Also, they might not catch you, but they may uncover evidence leading to you.
You guys really believe in democracy? There's no real democracy, you're just dancing to their music.

It's worked pretty well so far
So that's why marijuana is illegal? Because the people want it to be? I could name countless instances of governments acting against the majority of voters in so called "democratic countries"

You elect them. If you want politicians who would agree to legalize marijuana, elect those kind of politicians.


Title: Re: question about the FBI bitcoins from Silkroad
Post by: Kungfucheez on January 08, 2014, 05:03:04 PM
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So that's why marijuana is illegal? Because the people want it to be? I could name countless instances of governments acting against the majority of voters in so called "democratic countries"

You know, It's getting harder to tell if I'm being trolled or if people are legitimately this stupid. 


Title: Re: question about the FBI bitcoins from Silkroad
Post by: EvilPanda on January 08, 2014, 05:16:14 PM
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So that's why marijuana is illegal? Because the people want it to be? I could name countless instances of governments acting against the majority of voters in so called "democratic countries"

You know, It's getting harder to tell if I'm being trolled or if people are legitimately this stupid. 
Great way to end a conversation with style.


Title: Re: question about the FBI bitcoins from Silkroad
Post by: QuestionAuthority on January 08, 2014, 05:19:04 PM
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Title: Re: question about the FBI bitcoins from Silkroad
Post by: armodilloben on January 08, 2014, 05:27:53 PM
 back to topic: Last information I had is that they did not have the keyphrase to unlock the wallet.  But if they do, it is going to be interesting, when and how they are going to liquidate those BTRC (at least not on gox ;)),