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Title: Why do people not put their Bitcoins in Cold Storage?
Post by: probitcoiner on January 08, 2014, 04:57:56 AM
Why do people not put their Bitcoins in Cold Storage? It's pretty sad when you hear people losing 5-10-20 Bitcoins because there online wallets got hacked. Please stop risking so much money to be stolen, if your new to Bitcoin or you don't know how to put your bitcoin(s) into cold storage I've put together 5 Steps To Place Bitcoins in Cold Storage (http://www.probitcoiner.com/5-steps-place-bitcoins-cold-storage/).


Title: Re: Why do people not put their Bitcoins in Cold Storage?
Post by: probitcoiner on January 08, 2014, 05:06:18 PM
Does anyone have any thoughts on why people don't put them in cold storage?


Title: Re: Why do people not put their Bitcoins in Cold Storage?
Post by: moriartypants on January 08, 2014, 05:12:52 PM
It's a hassle.

Since smart phones got really big people are used to technology streamlining things and making everything work smoother.  THey expect technology to just work and require minimal intervention from themselves.

Cold storing your bitcoins may be smart but a lot of people just can't be bothered with the extra steps.  Also, to actually use the bitcoins you got to make them hot again so what's the point unless you're planning on spending them all in one go?


Title: Re: Why do people not put their Bitcoins in Cold Storage?
Post by: bsmack on January 08, 2014, 05:12:57 PM
Volatility.  If the majority of BTC you hold is in cold storage and the price starts plummeting it takes a considerable amount of time to get your BTC out of cold storage and onto an exchange.  Price in USD could be down another 20% by the time you actually move your coins.


Title: Re: Why do people not put their Bitcoins in Cold Storage?
Post by: probitcoiner on January 08, 2014, 07:39:00 PM
It's a hassle.

Since smart phones got really big people are used to technology streamlining things and making everything work smoother.  THey expect technology to just work and require minimal intervention from themselves.

Cold storing your bitcoins may be smart but a lot of people just can't be bothered with the extra steps.  Also, to actually use the bitcoins you got to make them hot again so what's the point unless you're planning on spending them all in one go?

I understand the hassle but if your going to invest a large amount of money into Bitcoin people need to make these steps. A couple weeks ago there was a story on /r/bitcoin of a guy that had 30+ bitcoins stolen from a hot wallet, I don't know about you but almost $30,000 seems worth the hassle.


Title: Re: Why do people not put their Bitcoins in Cold Storage?
Post by: probitcoiner on January 08, 2014, 07:49:13 PM
Volatility.  If the majority of BTC you hold is in cold storage and the price starts plummeting it takes a considerable amount of time to get your BTC out of cold storage and onto an exchange.  Price in USD could be down another 20% by the time you actually move your coins.

You have to ask yourself the question are you in for the short or long term. If your in for the short term best of luck I hope you make some money. If you choose long term put your bitcoins in cold storage, there is going to be crashes/bubbles just like there has been i think 8 now and if you keep selling at those lows your never going to win.


Title: Re: Why do people not put their Bitcoins in Cold Storage?
Post by: guybrushthreepwood on January 08, 2014, 07:49:40 PM
It's a hassle.

Since smart phones got really big people are used to technology streamlining things and making everything work smoother.  THey expect technology to just work and require minimal intervention from themselves.

Cold storing your bitcoins may be smart but a lot of people just can't be bothered with the extra steps.  Also, to actually use the bitcoins you got to make them hot again so what's the point unless you're planning on spending them all in one go?

I understand the hassle but if your going to invest a large amount of money into Bitcoin people need to make these steps. A couple weeks ago there was a story on /r/bitcoin of a guy that had 30+ bitcoins stolen from a hot wallet, I don't know about you but almost $30,000 seems worth the hassle.

 f their computer is infected with trojans or keyloggers they can get your money off a paper wallet before you even send it or when you try retreave it.


Title: Re: Why do people not put their Bitcoins in Cold Storage?
Post by: probitcoiner on January 08, 2014, 07:59:26 PM
It's a hassle.

Since smart phones got really big people are used to technology streamlining things and making everything work smoother.  THey expect technology to just work and require minimal intervention from themselves.

Cold storing your bitcoins may be smart but a lot of people just can't be bothered with the extra steps.  Also, to actually use the bitcoins you got to make them hot again so what's the point unless you're planning on spending them all in one go?

I understand the hassle but if your going to invest a large amount of money into Bitcoin people need to make these steps. A couple weeks ago there was a story on /r/bitcoin of a guy that had 30+ bitcoins stolen from a hot wallet, I don't know about you but almost $30,000 seems worth the hassle.

 f their computer is infected with trojans or keyloggers they can get your money off a paper wallet before you even send it or when you try retreave it.

This is why its best to use a computer that has never been online before.


Title: Re: Why do people not put their Bitcoins in Cold Storage?
Post by: hilariousandco on January 08, 2014, 08:03:51 PM
It's a hassle.

Since smart phones got really big people are used to technology streamlining things and making everything work smoother.  THey expect technology to just work and require minimal intervention from themselves.

Cold storing your bitcoins may be smart but a lot of people just can't be bothered with the extra steps.  Also, to actually use the bitcoins you got to make them hot again so what's the point unless you're planning on spending them all in one go?

I understand the hassle but if your going to invest a large amount of money into Bitcoin people need to make these steps. A couple weeks ago there was a story on /r/bitcoin of a guy that had 30+ bitcoins stolen from a hot wallet, I don't know about you but almost $30,000 seems worth the hassle.

 f their computer is infected with trojans or keyloggers they can get your money off a paper wallet before you even send it or when you try retreave it.

This is why its best to use a computer that has never been online before.

Or use a linux boot CD. Wallets are only as safe as you are. Blockchain.info is very also safe as long as you remain so and take advantage of all their security features.


Title: Re: Why do people not put their Bitcoins in Cold Storage?
Post by: jimmyjimmy on January 08, 2014, 09:19:07 PM
Cold storage wallets store private BTC keys offline but that's not something people wanna do.


Title: Re: Why do people not put their Bitcoins in Cold Storage?
Post by: e521 on January 08, 2014, 09:22:58 PM
People don't print paper wallet because it's still "difficult" to do.
It's not practical if you only want to trade on big swings and ATH as it takes time to move
And then you have the problem of the paper (now partially resolved with card made of aluminium?): where do you store safely your paper wallets?


Title: Re: Why do people not put their Bitcoins in Cold Storage?
Post by: masterbean on January 08, 2014, 10:16:59 PM
I agree it seems like more people should use cold wallets. https://www.bitaddress.org (https://www.bitaddress.org)
Here's the link for more information: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=43496.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=43496.0)


Title: Re: Why do people not put their Bitcoins in Cold Storage?
Post by: probitcoiner on January 09, 2014, 01:33:33 AM
It's a hassle.

Since smart phones got really big people are used to technology streamlining things and making everything work smoother.  THey expect technology to just work and require minimal intervention from themselves.

Cold storing your bitcoins may be smart but a lot of people just can't be bothered with the extra steps.  Also, to actually use the bitcoins you got to make them hot again so what's the point unless you're planning on spending them all in one go?

I understand the hassle but if your going to invest a large amount of money into Bitcoin people need to make these steps. A couple weeks ago there was a story on /r/bitcoin of a guy that had 30+ bitcoins stolen from a hot wallet, I don't know about you but almost $30,000 seems worth the hassle.

 f their computer is infected with trojans or keyloggers they can get your money off a paper wallet before you even send it or when you try retreave it.

This is why its best to use a computer that has never been online before.

Or use a linux boot CD. Wallets are only as safe as you are. Blockchain.info is very also safe as long as you remain so and take advantage of all their security features.

Yeah this is what we suggest you use in our 5 step guide that is linked in the original post


Title: Re: Why do people not put their Bitcoins in Cold Storage?
Post by: energeez on January 09, 2014, 03:01:54 AM
it's something very unusual to put your btc in cold strorage but its so more safe


Title: Re: Why do people not put their Bitcoins in Cold Storage?
Post by: Candice_lindawin on January 09, 2014, 03:07:53 AM
I agree it  :)


Title: Re: Why do people not put their Bitcoins in Cold Storage?
Post by: WillemStelen on January 09, 2014, 04:13:28 AM
Why do people not put their Bitcoins in Cold Storage? It's pretty sad when you hear people losing 5-10-20 Bitcoins because there online wallets got hacked. Please stop risking so much money to be stolen, if your new to Bitcoin or you don't know how to put your bitcoin(s) into cold storage I've put together 5 Steps To Place Bitcoins in Cold Storage (http://www.probitcoiner.com/5-steps-place-bitcoins-cold-storage/).


it is not reasonable to use cold storage. if bitcoin's value starts dropping fast you will need a lot of time to pull out your btc from the cold storage and sell them. you will lose a lot of $ while doing that and probably  you will get much lower price...


Title: Re: Why do people not put their Bitcoins in Cold Storage?
Post by: boathouse1 on January 09, 2014, 04:14:42 AM
what does cold storage even mean?


Title: Re: Why do people not put their Bitcoins in Cold Storage?
Post by: probitcoiner on January 09, 2014, 04:27:05 AM
what does cold storage even mean?

“Cold storage” refers to keeping your bitcoins out of reach of the internet(hackers) and computers that could become potentially infected with malware or viruses.


Title: Re: Why do people not put their Bitcoins in Cold Storage?
Post by: fahayek on January 09, 2014, 05:07:31 PM
Hassle and volatility.


Title: Re: Why do people not put their Bitcoins in Cold Storage?
Post by: anyone4u on January 09, 2014, 05:17:52 PM
cold storage = on a flash disk stored in a safe


Title: Re: Why do people not put their Bitcoins in Cold Storage?
Post by: nerobie on January 10, 2014, 10:28:25 AM
you will win a lot of £ while doing that and probably  you will get much high price


Title: Re: Why do people not put their Bitcoins in Cold Storage?
Post by: probitcoiner on January 10, 2014, 05:38:17 PM
you will win a lot of £ while doing that and probably  you will get much high price

I don't understand what your saying.


Title: Re: Why do people not put their Bitcoins in Cold Storage?
Post by: mjc on January 10, 2014, 05:40:32 PM
They don't put all their Bitcoins in Cold storage for the same reason you don;t put all you money in a safe deposit box.  If you want to have access to it so you can use it, it only make sense that you would keep it out of cold storage.


Title: Re: Why do people not put their Bitcoins in Cold Storage?
Post by: hilariousandco on January 10, 2014, 05:42:49 PM
you will win a lot of £ while doing that and probably  you will get much high price

I don't understand what your saying.

This guy was either a spambot or posting jibberish and has now been banned. Just ignore his posts because they're nonsense.


Title: Re: Why do people not put their Bitcoins in Cold Storage?
Post by: probitcoiner on January 13, 2014, 01:51:01 AM
They don't put all their Bitcoins in Cold storage for the same reason you don;t put all you money in a safe deposit box.  If you want to have access to it so you can use it, it only make sense that you would keep it out of cold storage.

What I should say is, you don't need to put all of your bitcoins into cold storage. You can keep the coins that you want to use in a hot wallet. If you own 10+ bitcoins do you need them all out to use?


Title: Re: Why do people not put their Bitcoins in Cold Storage?
Post by: PolkRB on January 13, 2014, 11:35:02 AM
cold storage = on a flash disk stored in a safe

This sounds a lot better than printing to paper. What if paper quality degrades and you won't be able to scan the QR...


Title: Re: Why do people not put their Bitcoins in Cold Storage?
Post by: guybrushthreepwood on January 13, 2014, 11:50:47 AM
cold storage = on a flash disk stored in a safe

This sounds a lot better than printing to paper. What if paper quality degrades and you won't be able to scan the QR...

What if the USB breaks or becomes corrupted and you lose it?


Title: Re: Why do people not put their Bitcoins in Cold Storage?
Post by: PolkRB on January 13, 2014, 12:01:46 PM
cold storage = on a flash disk stored in a safe

This sounds a lot better than printing to paper. What if paper quality degrades and you won't be able to scan the QR...

What if the USB breaks or becomes corrupted and you lose it?

Then just like paper the whole cold storage talk is not secure as well as hot storage if one can't secure the online wallet well enough.


Title: Re: Why do people not put their Bitcoins in Cold Storage?
Post by: Flashman on January 13, 2014, 12:02:24 PM
Also remember to have a copy on another continent in case of major asteroid strike.

I hide mine in Justin Bieber MP3s so 50 million pre-teens back them up for me on the 'rents Dell. ;)