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In a March 18, 2011 press release regarding the Liberty Dollar case, the FBI admitted to waging a secret war against any private currency system that competes against the US Dollar.  In the press release, the FBI equates the use of sound money to an act of domestic terrorism.  The FBI states that it uses methods of infiltration and disruption against private citizens engaged in the use of voluntary currencies.

The FBI writes:

“Attempts to undermine the legitimate currency of this country [ie. unconstitutional Federal Reserve notes] are simply a unique form of domestic terrorism,” U.S. Attorney Tompkins said in announcing the verdict. “While these forms of anti-government activities do not involve violence [ie. they are voluntary systems with no victim], they are every bit as insidious and represent a clear and present danger to the economic stability of this country [ie. their widespread adoption may collapse the corrupt banking system],” she added. “We are determined to meet these threats through infiltration, disruption, and dismantling of organizations which seek to challenge the legitimacy of our democratic form of government.” [ie. we will engage in acts of domestic terrorism to prevent the voluntary trade of private property.]

I think this open admission by the FBI that it engages in acts of domestic terrorism against private currency systems bears a particular importance for users of the Bitcoin monetary system.  If we look at the history of Bitcoin since it gained notoriety, we see a slew of hacking attacks against major exchanges that have indeed disrupted and undermined the currency system.

 

I for one used to think we don't belong here (in military) but my girlfriend's parents might never have been born otherwise so who knows.

The main mistake Liberty dollars made was to use the word "dollar" on their coins.
You cannot go around minting coins that could be confused with federal coins. And then
for people to start taking them into stores and wanting store owners to accept them was
just looking for a raid and seizure.

I guess the USA should invade Canada and Australia for using the word dollar as well.

I guess the USA should invade Canada and Australia for using the word dollar as well.

The US will never invade Canada. They wouldn't want another 40 million Democrats!  ;D

Did you not notice the neo-con Prime Minister we recently elected with a majority?
( in some ways makes his buddy George W. Bush seem liberal minded )

With clowns like that leading us The US doesn't need to invade.

http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/7691/oharper.jpg
"And when I say jump you're only question should be 'how high'!"

"Yessir, anything you say sir."

Do you really need a lesson in the differences between a Parliamentary monarchy and a republic? Harper won a majority government with a ridiculous MINORITY of the votes.

Oh, and go ask Canadian conservatives if they want to do away with health care, deregulate and invade foreign countries, the way neo-cons do? They'll look at you like you have two heads.

I know how that works all too well living in the province I do.


With King Harper in power, with a majority, it doesn't much matter what the people want, Conservative or other wise.  I won't derail this thread anymore with an issue by issue debate on Canadian politics but I thank god that Straussian (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/opinions/stephen-harper-the-last-straussian/article1710880/)* wasn't in power when dubya tried to get us to join him in Iraq.  


*edit/ and also this one from the other side of the country: Harper, Bush Share Roots in Controversial Philosophy (http://thetyee.ca/Mediacheck/2005/11/29/HarperBush/)

I agree with you that we dodged a massive bullet, Harper and Dubya at the same time would have been a perfect storm of unintelligence. Nevertheless, let's give Canada a tiny bit of credit. Even Harper is pretty subtle in the ways in which he's trying to undermine us from within... it might change when some of our Supreme Court judges have to retire.

But you're right, let's not derail this thread. My bad for making assumptions. I apologise.

PS: By the way, you do know that technically, only a majority of the constituents in just one riding voted for Stephen Harper, right? I mean, he's not a president, just one more MP with a little bit more clout than the rest...  ;D

"Federal prosecutors successfully argued that von NotHaus was, in fact, trying to pass off the silver coins as U.S. currency. Coming in denominations of 5, 10, 20, and 50, the Liberty Dollars also featured a dollar sign, the word "dollar" and the motto "Trust in God," similar to the "In God We Trust" that appears on U.S. coins"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberty_Dollar

Not that wiki is the end all in reliable sources but it doesn't seem there's too much question here.

South Korea here. Great launching pad for a westernized, watered down version of hard core ancient and closed minded Asian ideals and customs (lots of US influence here). From here it only gets more hard core though. Korea is pretty much America's pet project at the moment, and the people who don't live in denial of that fact on a daily basis aren't too happy about it.

I for one used to think we don't belong here (in military) but my girlfriend's parents might never have been born otherwise so who knows.

Note to trolls who think I'm racist: learn Korean and read their daily news. They absolutely despise their president for being so chummy with Obama. Once you're fluent in Korean like I am, it's hard to not pick this up. I hope somehow the work I do in education, Bitcoin or whatever can help a few if not the whole country a bit. So many wonderful people here that feel trapped and tortured (most students) in a painfully redundant and self destructive social pattern. But hey, that's the good old US of A too, no? -_-;;

With all due respect that never seems to stop Americans from whining about their level of comfort. It's all perception. When I look at Nort Korea, I see a selfish and arrogant leader but a lot of honest and mislead followers. Life in North Korea is no more hell than it is in any other country at some point in time, so long as you follow the rules of the masters. No country is different in that respect, just different rules.

Disclaimer: I know first hand about Korea but global politics etc are kind of new to me.

Where the action is: Asia

Do you really need a lesson in the differences between a Parliamentary monarchy and a republic? Harper won a majority government with a ridiculous MINORITY of the votes.

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I don't think you understand the 'hell' that is North Korea. They have famines and dwindling resources, people starving or being beaten in work camps, etc. etc. I don't think many other countries are in the shape North Korea is in

I don't think you understand the 'hell' that is USA. They have famines and dwindling resources, slums, homeless, shitty education, crappy healthcare, people starving or being beaten in work camps (a.k.a sweatshops) , etc. etc...

Do you really think that everyone wants to drink your overpriced sugar water, eat your shit sandwiches and be in debt for rest of their lives. (just rhetorical question, please, do not answer)

Edit: the foil wrapping is designed to trap heat, keeping the burger warm longer.

Let me fix that for you:
Now, lest talk about garden gnomes (a.k.a completely off topic rant):
You land whales think you can buy a burgers and eat your self to death = freedom? Your greed driven, debt-ridden version of democracy is a sad joke on yourselves. Why are you exporting (war, anyone?) this Orwellian nightmare, wrapped in shiny Burger King paper, to the rest of the world? Do you really think that everyone wants to drink your overpriced sugar water, eat your shit sandwiches and be in debt for rest of their lives. (just rhetorical question, please, do not answer)

Back to the topic: Get over this liberty dollar crap an look at the bigger picture and then its smaller details. ;)