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Title: What do you miss? as a service.
Post by: Sunfire_99 on May 20, 2018, 08:35:05 PM
I'm just doing a little survey about what you guys are missing as a service since almost every single idea every single thought is already taken, so why not ask the user himself.

What are you guys missing ? ???


Title: Re: What do you miss? as a service.
Post by: pixie85 on May 20, 2018, 09:18:02 PM
There are literally hundreds of ideas that aren't taken yet. I don't know why you think that we have all the services that we need. We won't have even 10% of what we need!
Some examples:
Stores. Stores with anything and everything. We can't buy books, jewelry, cars. There are some places around the world that sell locally, but there are none that would serve clients worldwide.
Travel agencies that accept Bitcoin would be nice. Especially if you'd be able to book a whole trip including the hotels and meals in one place.


Title: Re: What do you miss? as a service.
Post by: stomachgrowls on May 20, 2018, 10:05:01 PM
There are literally hundreds of ideas that aren't taken yet. I don't know why you think that we have all the services that we need. We won't have even 10% of what we need!
Some examples:
Stores. Stores with anything and everything. We can't buy books, jewelry, cars. There are some places around the world that sell locally, but there are none that would serve clients worldwide.
Travel agencies that accept Bitcoin would be nice. Especially if you'd be able to book a whole trip including the hotels and meals in one place.

There are really still lots of ideas which haven't been taken and same as you said and mentioned above but we do know the restriction or adoption rate why it is still impossible to make such one. Due to laws and other factors will really able to block such creation.Good to see services which crypto can be applied aside from traditional things being used by fiat and as crypto user you would really see and feel the convenience that it gives.


Title: Re: What do you miss? as a service.
Post by: Oceat on May 20, 2018, 11:29:21 PM
There are literally hundreds of ideas that aren't taken yet. I don't know why you think that we have all the services that we need. We won't have even 10% of what we need!
Some examples:
Stores. Stores with anything and everything. We can't buy books, jewelry, cars. There are some places around the world that sell locally, but there are none that would serve clients worldwide.
Travel agencies that accept Bitcoin would be nice. Especially if you'd be able to book a whole trip including the hotels and meals in one place.

There are really still lots of ideas which haven't been taken and same as you said and mentioned above but we do know the restriction or adoption rate why it is still impossible to make such one. Due to laws and other factors will really able to block such creation.Good to see services which crypto can be applied aside from traditional things being used by fiat and as crypto user you would really see and feel the convenience that it gives.
Yes, i agree because most of the establishments are following the rules while some factors that could really affect their business. That's why they have to manage a way to be able to make their business or company works. Everything is set by a rules and a law so you will be able to work legally if you are following the laws. We might not get the whole package of services that we want but there will be someone that could give us the services that we want to.


Title: Re: What do you miss? as a service.
Post by: ManaMan on May 21, 2018, 11:28:41 AM
I'm just doing a little survey about what you guys are missing as a service since almost every single idea every single thought is already taken, so why not ask the user himself.

What are you guys missing ? ???

Because an idea is taken it doesn't mean you could not do it better. Although the less competition you have the better. If you have good idea that is already taken, never mind start working on it. The power is to start working on it and not to think about what you can do and get discouraged because such thing already exists. So far I can't tell you what you could do as I have never brainstormed such thing.

You can maybe start a multi wallet service such as exodus,jaxx,coinomi etc... try to include as much coins as you can. Because I do believe we migh have lack of wallets that support big variety of coins. How can you monotize it? Include exchanges such as changelly,shape shift or yet create your own bots trading bots and offer your own rates and clone services like shapeshift, create your own mixing service and integrate with it. I mean it really depends on your budget, are there any more people helping you out or are you doing it solo etc.

Some easier way to get started is to buy domain+hosting start a blog and try to push it through affiliate links to earn a good revenue. Although it can take time to build it but everything takes time right.


Title: Re: What do you miss? as a service.
Post by: Fatunad on May 21, 2018, 10:42:51 PM
There are literally hundreds of ideas that aren't taken yet. I don't know why you think that we have all the services that we need. We won't have even 10% of what we need!
Some examples:
Stores. Stores with anything and everything. We can't buy books, jewelry, cars. There are some places around the world that sell locally, but there are none that would serve clients worldwide.
Travel agencies that accept Bitcoin would be nice. Especially if you'd be able to book a whole trip including the hotels and meals in one place.

There are really still lots of ideas which haven't been taken and same as you said and mentioned above but we do know the restriction or adoption rate why it is still impossible to make such one. Due to laws and other factors will really able to block such creation.Good to see services which crypto can be applied aside from traditional things being used by fiat and as crypto user you would really see and feel the convenience that it gives.
Yes, i agree because most of the establishments are following the rules while some factors that could really affect their business. That's why they have to manage a way to be able to make their business or company works. Everything is set by a rules and a law so you will be able to work legally if you are following the laws. We might not get the whole package of services that we want but there will be someone that could give us the services that we want to.
This is actually the hard part thats why some business owners who do have plans didnt proceed to do such thing because of limitations or laws which is really hassle when you try to comply.Therefore, before making any plans always consider or check out if your place or country isnt too strict when it comes to new things specially in the involvement of crypto.Its always accompanied which such regulation and we know government would really impose that one.


Title: Re: What do you miss? as a service.
Post by: buwaytress on May 22, 2018, 08:54:34 AM
It's not exactly something to miss since it doesn't exist yet but a true Bitcoin enabled debit card would be nice to have. Every single crypto debit card that's ever been proposed or built is still based on Visa or MasterCard. And they have always proven problematic whenever these providers change their stance on Bitcoin/cryptocurrency.

I suppose if every merchant began accepting Bitcoin and via Lightning Network, we'd see this new network displacimg Visa/MC but people still probably want to be able to swipe and pay with a pin or wave... Scanning QR codes and signing transactions still presents a step people are unwilling to do.


Title: Re: What do you miss? as a service.
Post by: VitKoyn on May 22, 2018, 01:45:32 PM
I'm just doing a little survey about what you guys are missing as a service since almost every single idea every single thought is already taken, so why not ask the user himself.

What are you guys missing ? ???
No, there are still lots of unimplemented services don't can be done with cryptocurrencies. Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies are also a currency that can be use for payment, but in reality we are using it as an investment which is understandable because there are still few use cases. I know that there some few online merchants that already accepting cryptocurrency or with the help of payment processors but just like pixie85 said their those stores that accepts cryptocurrency can only serve limited locations, So what we really need is a huge adoption from this stores and merchants, and if majority will do accept then other types of service will follows. What I want to see is, an amazon type of online store that accepts cryptocurrency that is available in my country or maybe a food delivery that accepts crypto which is also not yet available here.


Title: Re: What do you miss? as a service.
Post by: harizen on May 22, 2018, 03:01:18 PM
I'm just doing a little survey about what you guys are missing as a service since almost every single idea every single thought is already taken, so why not ask the user himself.

What are you guys missing ? ???

Rather than asking people one by one, take that as a challenge for those who wants to opened a service.

Not to find the missing one but let those missing come to you automatically. Since people have different preferences about using a certain service, sometimes we doesn't know what we really want. That's the time you will opened a service and see if it will be in-demand to the community. Well of course you have to analyzed the current situation so that the service you will provide will really be demanded


Title: Re: What do you miss? as a service.
Post by: Sadlife on May 23, 2018, 04:20:25 AM
Well that depends on what type of services your offering but usually if it's an exchange,trading site there are thousands of complaints from people whose money had been stuck from withdrawal but tech support is not responding. This may not be your case that's why im asking what type of business do you have, so i can answer clearly.


Title: Re: What do you miss? as a service.
Post by: Slow death on May 23, 2018, 02:42:33 PM
I'm just doing a little survey about what you guys are missing as a service since almost every single idea every single thought is already taken, so why not ask the user himself.

What are you guys missing ? ???

well in my case I lack more options for me to buy bitcoin using my debit card, pay my television account  with bitcoin, pay energy bill using bitcoin, pay internet bill using bitcoin, pay my water bill using bitcoin. another important thing is to have bitcoin debit card. if we had a company that issued bitcoin debito card would be the most good thing we need urgently. with that we would get rid of visa and mastercard. I do not understand, why there is no crypto company that did not think about creating their own plastic cards and we are no longer dependent on visa and mastercard



Title: Re: What do you miss? as a service.
Post by: darkangel11 on May 23, 2018, 06:34:20 PM
Well that depends on what type of services your offering but usually if it's an exchange,trading site there are thousands of complaints from people whose money had been stuck from withdrawal but tech support is not responding. This may not be your case that's why im asking what type of business do you have, so i can answer clearly.

How can the services we miss depend on the services that we're offering. You're not making any sense. He may not have a business at all but looking to start one. Is that so hard to get?


 ...pay my television account  with bitcoin, pay energy bill using bitcoin, pay internet bill using bitcoin, pay my water bill using bitcoin.
That's it. Bills, bills and once again bills. Also, groceries. I'd like to be able to pay my Internet bill and buy daily products with BTC. I've bought all the electronics and clothes already, so that's set for months or even years to come. What I'd like now is to be able to live on BTC, especially now when my yearly crypto income is higher than my fiat income. I don't want to keep exchanging.


Title: Re: What do you miss? as a service.
Post by: leowonderful on May 23, 2018, 08:12:56 PM
I live in the US, and we've already got some decent options for getting electronics like computers and parts, etc from sites such as Newegg. I'm not saying it wouldn't be a good idea to possibly open up a service selling electronics as more services in any area involving BTC is good, but I feel there's opportunity to be found in things we do every day that involve fiat currency. Too many people are focused on electronics transactions with BTC, and other things like even just food as a whole and clothing would be great places to start.


Title: Re: What do you miss? as a service.
Post by: shield132 on May 23, 2018, 08:13:57 PM
I'm just doing a little survey about what you guys are missing as a service since almost every single idea every single thought is already taken, so why not ask the user himself.

What are you guys missing ? ???
Not survey but to be fair you are looking for new idea for yourself, that's truth since as you claim almost every idea is taken and you can't think about other ones.
There are a lot, it's endlessness like numbers, it's just a task of your fantasy. People miss bitcoin payments on ebay, amazon, netflix...
Some people miss asic miners too, good bitcoin debit cards, bitcoin deposits... A lot...


Title: Re: What do you miss? as a service.
Post by: npredtorch on May 23, 2018, 09:01:23 PM
Not survey but to be fair you are looking for new idea for yourself ----

This.

I remember that the OP is the developer of the Crypto Ticker app  ;).
I'm pretty sure that he's going to apply one posted idea here if it meets the factors needed like the feasibility and uniqueness.



Title: Re: What do you miss? as a service.
Post by: gentlemand on May 23, 2018, 10:29:51 PM
One single fully legitimate and risk free way to earn interest on Bitcoin. I don't believe it will ever be possible simply because it's totally against Bitcoin's fundamental qualities, but you can bet your bippy it would be swamped immediately if it was possible.


Title: Re: What do you miss? as a service.
Post by: Oilacris on May 23, 2018, 10:46:11 PM
Not survey but to be fair you are looking for new idea for yourself ----

This.

I remember that the OP is the developer of the Crypto Ticker app  ;).
I'm pretty sure that he's going to apply one posted idea here if it meets the factors needed like the feasibility and uniqueness.


Same views related into this matter which it turns out that this isnt a survery but rather a thread which do accumulate ideas from the community which would be applied into his own project but i dont see a wrong thing if thats the case.We do say or suggest things but as i have read above those propositions wont easily be created or implemented yet it do still needs adoption for us to reach that range of adoption.

Bitcoin debit cards which isnt only limited to Visa provider would be much better for me.


Title: Re: What do you miss? as a service.
Post by: Zapo on May 24, 2018, 01:42:57 AM
Bitmixer. Was one of the best mixers around and sad it shut down.


Title: Re: What do you miss? as a service.
Post by: xypos on May 24, 2018, 02:15:28 AM
Bitmixer. Was one of the best mixers around and sad it shut down.

Agreed. It was an extremely good service while it lasted, but it got shut down from regulatory pressures.

Although with the emerging mixers in Chipmixer, bitblender and Privcoin, it's not really that huge of a deal tbh.


Title: Re: What do you miss? as a service.
Post by: buwaytress on May 24, 2018, 11:11:02 AM
Bitmixer. Was one of the best mixers around and sad it shut down.

Agreed. It was an extremely good service while it lasted, but it got shut down from regulatory pressures.

Although with the emerging mixers in Chipmixer, bitblender and Privcoin, it's not really that huge of a deal tbh.

Agreed. Many more have come to fill that void, and many more are coming up. I'm unashamedly of the opinion that Chipmixer happens to be a superior offering, with all due respect to Bitmixer's past dominance. When was the last time you saw a mixing service innovate the way Chipmixer did (and is still attempting to do?).

Even the ones launching this week (if I trust PRs floating around) are still doing things the old way that Bitmixer did. Not that there's anything wrong with the old way... but if blockchain analytics is catching up and getting more sophisticated, you'd think mixers would need to up their pace to stay ahead.


Title: Re: What do you miss? as a service.
Post by: Zapo on May 24, 2018, 11:26:18 AM
Bitmixer. Was one of the best mixers around and sad it shut down.

Agreed. It was an extremely good service while it lasted, but it got shut down from regulatory pressures.

Although with the emerging mixers in Chipmixer, bitblender and Privcoin, it's not really that huge of a deal tbh.

Agreed. Many more have come to fill that void, and many more are coming up. I'm unashamedly of the opinion that Chipmixer happens to be a superior offering, with all due respect to Bitmixer's past dominance. When was the last time you saw a mixing service innovate the way Chipmixer did (and is still attempting to do?).

Even the ones launching this week (if I trust PRs floating around) are still doing things the old way that Bitmixer did. Not that there's anything wrong with the old way... but if blockchain analytics is catching up and getting more sophisticated, you'd think mixers would need to up their pace to stay ahead.
Chipmixer very much filled the void, it was a great move on their part to keep pushing their service when bitmixer got shut down. Really showed their dominance, and  the stream of other mixers that arose where all squashed (bitcloak, privcoin, bitmixcoin).

Although bit blender is still a very reliable and old mixer.

I've personally resorted to privcoin for eth mixing and chipmixer for normal BTC mixing. Work's like a charm.


Title: Re: What do you miss? as a service.
Post by: BitHodler on May 24, 2018, 11:33:11 AM
but if blockchain analytics is catching up and getting more sophisticated, you'd think mixers would need to up their pace to stay ahead.
Definitely, but that applies to ChipMixer as well. It's fairly easy to locate and monitor the fixed chip values, and from there I hope that eventually the chip values will change from time to time to become less common.

Or maybe that we can initiate a mixing session and request a custom chip value to obtain a bit more randomness. But as we speak, the only mixing service I have confidence in is ChipMixer.

Obviously, there is a bias from my side because I wear their signature, but it doesn't happen very often that people wear a signature from a service they are actually using and genuinely like. Bitmixer fits in there as well.

In most cases people are only interested in the payments and they don't care what they advertise for, but I am happy that I can promote a service offering a fundamental necessity for the community. Privacy is precious.


Title: Re: What do you miss? as a service.
Post by: buwaytress on May 25, 2018, 08:18:21 AM
but if blockchain analytics is catching up and getting more sophisticated, you'd think mixers would need to up their pace to stay ahead.
Definitely, but that applies to ChipMixer as well. It's fairly easy to locate and monitor the fixed chip values, and from there I hope that eventually the chip values will change from time to time to become less common.

Or maybe that we can initiate a mixing session and request a custom chip value to obtain a bit more randomness. But as we speak, the only mixing service I have confidence in is ChipMixer.

Obviously, there is a bias from my side because I wear their signature, but it doesn't happen very often that people wear a signature from a service they are actually using and genuinely like. Bitmixer fits in there as well.

In most cases people are only interested in the payments and they don't care what they advertise for, but I am happy that I can promote a service offering a fundamental necessity for the community. Privacy is precious.

I think even ChipMixer acknowledged that ease of detection using fixed chip values, but did note that as time passed and demand/volume increased, these fixed amounts would be near negligible. I'm not convinced of that myself, to be honest, I suspect the most sophisticated software could probably track down some of my use on it, probably not to me, but at least to my habits on using the service.

Maybe we should recommend a random changing of values from time to time as you suggest.

Yeah, bias from us naturally as incentivised supporters. But that also comes with the confidence of having the service itself back up the advantages we claim. Once Bitcoin moves past its scaling issues, privacy will really be the next area of focus.


Title: Re: What do you miss? as a service.
Post by: sandor111 on May 25, 2018, 01:48:04 PM
I'm just doing a little survey about what you guys are missing as a service since almost every single idea every single thought is already taken, so why not ask the user himself.

What are you guys missing ? ???
Some kind of arbitrage service that compares real time prices of altcoins on different exchanges which you choose from the list.


Title: Re: What do you miss? as a service.
Post by: reflector on May 25, 2018, 02:05:54 PM
but if blockchain analytics is catching up and getting more sophisticated, you'd think mixers would need to up their pace to stay ahead.
Definitely, but that applies to ChipMixer as well. It's fairly easy to locate and monitor the fixed chip values, and from there I hope that eventually the chip values will change from time to time to become less common.

Or maybe that we can initiate a mixing session and request a custom chip value to obtain a bit more randomness. But as we speak, the only mixing service I have confidence in is ChipMixer.

Obviously, there is a bias from my side because I wear their signature, but it doesn't happen very often that people wear a signature from a service they are actually using and genuinely like. Bitmixer fits in there as well.

In most cases people are only interested in the payments and they don't care what they advertise for, but I am happy that I can promote a service offering a fundamental necessity for the community. Privacy is precious.

Haha good promo reply for chipmixer team mate. Since you wearing the Chipmixer campaign signature and doing it better bro. Your manager may reward you specially for it. ;) ;) ;) I think we missed many services with the crypto currency still.
I think two things which can be achieved still we did not find in many places.
Using the automated escrow for the payment on every trading site and this forum as well. Next to that bitcoin payment on regular shopping websites.


Title: Re: What do you miss? as a service.
Post by: buwaytress on May 26, 2018, 08:44:44 AM
Using the automated escrow for the payment on every trading site and this forum as well. Next to that bitcoin payment on regular shopping websites.

This would be actually something really useful for this forum now that you mentioned it! I know Bitcoin isn't the best blockchain for smart contracts... and also realise this was a deliberate design, but I know there is some functionality and it would be nice to have some kind of simple open source smart contract for trustless escrow for Bitcoin. Yes, that would be a huge service with possibly the highest unmet demand.

Otherwise, the type of multisig escrows on some marketplaces would also work, but it still requires some degree of trust in that marketplace...