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Alternate cryptocurrencies => Bounties (Altcoins) => Topic started by: DejanGrande on May 20, 2018, 10:01:01 PM



Title: [Bounty] vDinar ✦ 30000 coins ✦ Media sharing for Balkans' currency
Post by: DejanGrande on May 20, 2018, 10:01:01 PM

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This bounty is made by users, for users. Entirely funded by donations!
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EVERY PRIZE IS 150% WORTH IF YOU PROVE TO BE FROM EX-YUGOSLAVIA

Bounty ends on 1/July/2018




vDinar, the regionally oriented cryptocurrency from Balkans, has just raised donations from its miners and buyers to start its first bounty campaign. This is to distribute its wealth and to let vDinar become a reasonable mean of payment, available to anyone!




Quick links
ORIGINAL THREAD (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2864886)
https://vdinar.jugoslaven.com/slike/BitcoinTalk/Ikona-GitHub.png (https://github.com/AndreaDejanGrande/vDinar)https://vdinar.jugoslaven.com/slike/BitcoinTalk/Ikona-Windows.png (https://github.com/AndreaDejanGrande/vDinar/releases)https://vdinar.jugoslaven.com/slike/BitcoinTalk/Ikona-Explorer.png (http://vdinar.jugoslaven.com:3001)
https://vdinar.jugoslaven.com/slike/BitcoinTalk/Ikona-Telegram.png (https://t.me/vdinar)https://vdinar.jugoslaven.com/slike/BitcoinTalk/Ikona-Reddit.png (https://www.reddit.com/r/vDinar)https://vdinar.jugoslaven.com/slike/BitcoinTalk/Ikona-Discord.png (https://discord.gg/qhP9Cv8)
NEW: TWITTER PAGE! (https://twitter.com/virtualniDinar)
NEW: WEB WALLET! (https://vdinar.jugoslaven.com/en/wallet)




How to obtain prizes from this campaigns?
We'll need you to involve people through media and posts: this means you'll need to support us through BitcoinTalk (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2864886) or through one of the approved social grids. If you choose the latter, you can get prizes through Twitter (https://twitter.com/virtualniDinar), Reddit (https://www.reddit.com/r/vDinar) or Discord (https://discord.gg/qhP9Cv8)!




BitcoinTalk campaigns

Translation (200VDN)
You can earn your first bounty by writing a translation of the original thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2864886) in a new language. You must be sure to include all the original images, to follow the original order and not to mistype anything.
Rules:

  • your rank must be Member or higher;
  • your account should not have any negative reviews.

Topic (200VDN)
You can earn 200VDN by writing a BitcoinTalk article about vDinar, you can choose any category as long as it fits the topic.
Rules:

  • your rank must be Member or higher;
  • the topic needs to get at least 10 non-negative answers from different users;
  • the topic needs to contain at least 1500 characters;
  • your account should not have any negative reviews.



Twitter campaigns

Tweet (50 to 250VDN)
You can obtain prizes by posting about vDinar on Twitter, remember to include the hashtag and to introduce people to the project.
Prizes:

  • 10 likes OR 10 retweets OR 1000 followers* - 50VDN
  • 20 likes OR 20 retweets OR 2000 followers* - 100VDN
  • 30 likes OR 30 retweets OR 3000 followers* - 150VDN
  • 40 likes OR 40 retweets OR 4000 followers* - 200VDN
  • 50 likes OR 50 retweets OR 5000 followers* - 250VDN
Rules:
  • you must follow vDinar's official Twitter page (https://twitter.com/virtualniDinar);
  • *your followers count will matter as long as they're not "refollows",
    meaning that if your "following" and "followers" count are similar,
    we'll only count likes and retweets;
  • you must always include the "#vDinar" hashtag;
  • tweets need to be positive and non-insulting;
  • you must not incite people to like or retweet;
  • accounts liking or retweeting must not be fake or suspicious.



Reddit campaigns

Post (50 to 250VDN)
You can obtain prizes by posting about vDinar on Reddit. You can freely choose the subreddit.
Prizes:

  • 10 upvotes - 50VDN
  • 20 upvotes - 100VDN
  • 30 upvotes - 150VDN
  • 40 upvotes - 200VDN
  • 50 upvotes - 250VDN
Rules:
  • you must be subscribed to r/vDinar (https://www.reddit.com/r/vDinar);
  • you must not incite people to upvote;
  • posts need to be positive and non-insulting.



Discord campaigns

Every 5 subscribers (10VDN)
By creating your own invite link on our Discord server (you must join it to create one) you will be rewarded every 5 new subscribers using your invite link.
Prizes:

  • 5 uses - 10VDN
  • 10 uses - 20VDN
  • 15 uses - 30VDN
  • 20 uses - 40VDN
  • (5*n) uses - (10*n)VDN
Rules:
  • you must have joined vDinar's Discord server (https://discord.gg/qhP9Cv8);
  • you must be active;
  • users need to be real and active.





How to contact us?
You can write us your reward VDN address and all the needed info here on BitcoinTalk (only as long as the forum rules allow it, check them please), on our Telegram group (https://t.me/vDinarGroup), on our Discord server (https://discord.gg/qhP9Cv8), or by writing me a message here on BitcoinTalk.


Title: Re: [Bounty] vDinar ✦ 30000 coins ✦ Media sharing for Balkans' currency
Post by: baccar on May 20, 2018, 10:07:05 PM
I 'd like to reserve Arabic translation if possible
I am a professional English/Arabic ICOs translator
- Native language: Arabic language

- Translation previous experience :
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1g-pbQPHonbNrdMc21mzTCbxV7_m4hXzd?usp=sharing

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3903632.msg37562024#msg37562024  (Ingot coin bounty)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3609330.msg36552698#msg36552698  (Composite ANN)
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1sLUqUJXPu6pNRvR0QllQzJ2aRHJW4CDu       (PAXPAY Whitepaper)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3577780.msg36443618#msg36443618  (Sharelock ANN)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3448909.msg35924919#msg35924919  (EVOCHAIN ANN & BOUNTY)
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1WwNwXSRuoX1dJHj83JTlDvo6JxZhBe-a       (Loyakk one pager translation for bounty)
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1S6DEpzkk-jTvC_9rCmPbtBy5uzWBwg1j       (Loyakk key message)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3423713.msg35763942#msg35763942  (PAXPAY bounty thread)                                 
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3405781.msg35648378#msg35648378  (CRYPTOHUNTERS ANN)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3410767.msg35682039#msg35682039  (PAXPAY ANN)
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1uKJsGAbT-ek0-2SwYIAzTBhG_DduP-ef
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1MfmptM0diXOCn6Koir-0vRglAJjBav7M
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1GJEBMAgCvV6J9WjXl2QLqsJmK8mh9Hhn
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1h74zBDARxR6tqNPYM4A6XVX5KBYF3gJe
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1eXmrrutqSKQX2319MDj3K1uU_T7cKAi0
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1S1o7xhMRsxeWLW6PueEY5v0iJRbmJfwh
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1h1G2xo8XXYmW8iv81ASwGZCVK0pz3jU5
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1LTk9rQR34DFUHtbtCHL7ct81anZxv80l
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3361346.msg35206500#msg35206500
http://baccar.blogspot.com.eg/
                                   
- Email: baccar77@yahoo.com
- I have excellent English to Arabic translation experience and vice versa as I write and/or translate articles in both languages in my 12 years blog >>> http://baccar.blogspot.com.eg/
- TOEFL score 611
- I am a surgeon so, I had more than 24 years of learning totally in English
- Documents for translate: All (Whitepaper + ANN Thread + Bounty Thread + ICO Website + Video Subtitles + Press Release + News Articles, .. etc)
- Thread & group moderation (Y/N) : Y
- Bitcointalk username: baccar
- Bitcointalk profile URL: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1155962;sa=forumProfile
- Twitter username: adam_baccar
- Twitter profile link: https://twitter.com/adam_baccar
- Twitter audit score link: https://www.twitteraudit.com/adam_baccar
- Facebook username: adam ramzy
- Facebook profile URL: https://www.facebook.com/adam.ramzy.3532
- Medium profile: https://medium.com/@adamramzy
- Steemit profile URL : https://steemit.com/@baccar
- Youtube profile: https://www.youtube.com/user/baccar77/featured?view_as=subscriber
- Instagram prfile link : https://www.instagram.com/baccar77/
- Cryptocompare profile: https://www.cryptocompare.com/profile/baccar77/#/activity
- Reddit profile URL: https://www.reddit.com/user/baccar77/
- Empower profile URL : http://profile.empowr.com/Profile/NewCustomProfile.aspx?u=5184ebe28c5e45e1918296fb3072812a
- My Telegram account link: https://t.me/baccar
- gethub account URL : https://github.com/baccar77
- ERC20 wallet address: 0x55e0967e31374b3CAEE73954Eef2b3b06D731663
- NEO wallet address  : AdWyB8wv8pr51wESHmStTFUyi8r2WmfmSN
- Waves wallet address: 3PQQnemiKq1qPXLxj9D7rMqiRqBMWQeRFmv
- stellar wallet Public Key: GAZNKNITGLHUES4C3RZZSQNKIGCNCSDH7BTT3IEVRAHP5EF6JCILH3M3
- Discord ID :    baccar#1753
- BTCRP wallet address : BGbYhGpkeAS3jcrPqgvsRZ5B6m39CtYWZm
- Bitcoin wallet : 37HkFoNGBtZ3DWz1zgqFgYBhsFXuz7tyf4
- Electroneum wallet address:
etnkKgsvfDkFq48M2XTc2Y7MQvM4NH7EpStcpNDNeG8tbVdEYuiYQSzP6PfUTrqiNE4KiSWUc1UXBHv 4ZEU2qLwQ7txgXEsLzB
- Apollo wallet address : APL-9P3T-3Z5D-ZSXZ-4WBN4
- Kingcoin wallet address: KMmFj5F5exmcT9ggqd7pdxx5mW7o1szTZQ
- LBT wallet : 0x9e9542C0e123a35D9A3867159D9F67C071F0c7Cf
- LBT wallet : 0x9c55e6b35dd551a1026be19e45f5cd8557511c0a
- NEM wallet address : NA2KC36U4YIHDVMBEKGGFWBGOIVJMB5XAM7X2ETI


Title: Re: [Bounty] vDinar ✦ 30000 coins ✦ Media sharing for Balkans' currency
Post by: DejanGrande on May 20, 2018, 10:15:03 PM
I 'd like to reserve Arabic translation if possible
I am a professional English/Arabic ICOs translator
- Native language: Arabic language

- Translation previous experience :
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1g-pbQPHonbNrdMc21mzTCbxV7_m4hXzd?usp=sharing

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3903632.msg37562024#msg37562024  (Ingot coin bounty)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3609330.msg36552698#msg36552698  (Composite ANN)
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1sLUqUJXPu6pNRvR0QllQzJ2aRHJW4CDu       (PAXPAY Whitepaper)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3577780.msg36443618#msg36443618  (Sharelock ANN)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3448909.msg35924919#msg35924919  (EVOCHAIN ANN & BOUNTY)
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1WwNwXSRuoX1dJHj83JTlDvo6JxZhBe-a       (Loyakk one pager translation for bounty)
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1S6DEpzkk-jTvC_9rCmPbtBy5uzWBwg1j       (Loyakk key message)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3423713.msg35763942#msg35763942  (PAXPAY bounty thread)                                 
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3405781.msg35648378#msg35648378  (CRYPTOHUNTERS ANN)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3410767.msg35682039#msg35682039  (PAXPAY ANN)
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1uKJsGAbT-ek0-2SwYIAzTBhG_DduP-ef
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1MfmptM0diXOCn6Koir-0vRglAJjBav7M
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1GJEBMAgCvV6J9WjXl2QLqsJmK8mh9Hhn
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1h74zBDARxR6tqNPYM4A6XVX5KBYF3gJe
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1eXmrrutqSKQX2319MDj3K1uU_T7cKAi0
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1S1o7xhMRsxeWLW6PueEY5v0iJRbmJfwh
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1h1G2xo8XXYmW8iv81ASwGZCVK0pz3jU5
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1LTk9rQR34DFUHtbtCHL7ct81anZxv80l
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3361346.msg35206500#msg35206500
http://baccar.blogspot.com.eg/
                                   
- Email: baccar77@yahoo.com
- I have excellent English to Arabic translation experience and vice versa as I write and/or translate articles in both languages in my 12 years blog >>> http://baccar.blogspot.com.eg/
- TOEFL score 611
- I am a surgeon so, I had more than 24 years of learning totally in English
- Documents for translate: All (Whitepaper + ANN Thread + Bounty Thread + ICO Website + Video Subtitles + Press Release + News Articles, .. etc)
- Thread & group moderation (Y/N) : Y
- Bitcointalk username: baccar
- Bitcointalk profile URL: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1155962;sa=forumProfile
- Twitter username: adam_baccar
- Twitter profile link: https://twitter.com/adam_baccar
- Twitter audit score link: https://www.twitteraudit.com/adam_baccar
- Facebook username: adam ramzy
- Facebook profile URL: https://www.facebook.com/adam.ramzy.3532
- Medium profile: https://medium.com/@adamramzy
- Steemit profile URL : https://steemit.com/@baccar
- Youtube profile: https://www.youtube.com/user/baccar77/featured?view_as=subscriber
- Instagram prfile link : https://www.instagram.com/baccar77/
- Cryptocompare profile: https://www.cryptocompare.com/profile/baccar77/#/activity
- Reddit profile URL: https://www.reddit.com/user/baccar77/
- Empower profile URL : http://profile.empowr.com/Profile/NewCustomProfile.aspx?u=5184ebe28c5e45e1918296fb3072812a
- My Telegram account link: https://t.me/baccar
- gethub account URL : https://github.com/baccar77
- ERC20 wallet address: 0x55e0967e31374b3CAEE73954Eef2b3b06D731663
- NEO wallet address  : AdWyB8wv8pr51wESHmStTFUyi8r2WmfmSN
- Waves wallet address: 3PQQnemiKq1qPXLxj9D7rMqiRqBMWQeRFmv
- stellar wallet Public Key: GAZNKNITGLHUES4C3RZZSQNKIGCNCSDH7BTT3IEVRAHP5EF6JCILH3M3
- Discord ID :    baccar#1753
- BTCRP wallet address : BGbYhGpkeAS3jcrPqgvsRZ5B6m39CtYWZm
- Bitcoin wallet : 37HkFoNGBtZ3DWz1zgqFgYBhsFXuz7tyf4
- Electroneum wallet address:
etnkKgsvfDkFq48M2XTc2Y7MQvM4NH7EpStcpNDNeG8tbVdEYuiYQSzP6PfUTrqiNE4KiSWUc1UXBHv 4ZEU2qLwQ7txgXEsLzB
- Apollo wallet address : APL-9P3T-3Z5D-ZSXZ-4WBN4
- Kingcoin wallet address: KMmFj5F5exmcT9ggqd7pdxx5mW7o1szTZQ
- LBT wallet : 0x9e9542C0e123a35D9A3867159D9F67C071F0c7Cf
- LBT wallet : 0x9c55e6b35dd551a1026be19e45f5cd8557511c0a
- NEM wallet address : NA2KC36U4YIHDVMBEKGGFWBGOIVJMB5XAM7X2ETI

Arabic translation reserved until new update.


Title: Re: [Bounty] vDinar ✦ 30000 coins ✦ Media sharing for Balkans' currency
Post by: DejanGrande on May 20, 2018, 10:27:17 PM
I have just added this project to my Table of new airdrop and Bounty from ©shasan (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LMJcAZqDmq4Kn9xjoCa7TrpJXFi-RpVKY_cA44brL6A/edit#gid=0)

Awesome, thank you!


Title: Re: [Bounty] vDinar ✦ 30000 coins ✦ Media sharing for Balkans' currency
Post by: chandrarahmadewa on May 20, 2018, 10:46:45 PM
Reserve Indonesia translation

- Native language - Indonesia
- Porfolio: this is my first times, but I quarantee my work would be better than other.
- Bitcointalk username - chandrarahmadewa
- Bitcointalk profile: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1323991
- telegram: @Bountyseeker

PM me if I am accepted, please give me a chance manager


Title: Re: [Bounty] vDinar ✦ 30000 coins ✦ Media sharing for Balkans' currency
Post by: awawo on May 20, 2018, 10:59:48 PM
How to apply for the Twitter campaign?


Title: Re: [Bounty] vDinar ✦ 30000 coins ✦ Media sharing for Balkans' currency
Post by: DejanGrande on May 20, 2018, 11:06:38 PM
How to apply for the Twitter campaign?

No need to apply, once you made your tweet and reached all the requirements just send proof wherever you want (PM me, post here, Discord, Telegram...)!


Title: Re: [Bounty] vDinar ✦ 30000 coins ✦ Media sharing for Balkans' currency
Post by: shasan on May 20, 2018, 11:06:52 PM
How to apply for the Twitter campaign?
You can just follow their twitter page, and make tweet or retweet from their page. they will give you prize base on "10 likes OR 10 retweets OR 1000 followers* - 50VDN
20 likes OR 20 retweets OR 2000 followers* - 100VDN
30 likes OR 30 retweets OR 3000 followers* - 150VDN
40 likes OR 40 retweets OR 4000 followers* - 200VDN
50 likes OR 50 retweets OR 5000 followers* - 250VDN"

Please read their rules too.


Title: Re: [Bounty] vDinar ✦ 30000 coins ✦ Media sharing for Balkans' currency
Post by: mesti1597 on May 20, 2018, 11:11:21 PM
Reserve Translation Campaign


Native Language : Indonesian
bitcointalk username : mesti1597
bitcointalk profile : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1153623
telegram : @wahyudi197
previous link : https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dYnl4iUxHh_jrP_Q09d-0HRNeA5sG-zNhoBZOvRrYTI/edit#gid=0
eth address : 0x57eF3C520bda06f73B492358afEA10139a4E8Fe4
email : wahyudidwi01@gmail.com

thanks !!


Title: Re: [Bounty] vDinar ✦ 30000 coins ✦ Media sharing for Balkans' currency
Post by: baccar on May 21, 2018, 01:11:15 AM
The link to arabic translation of the ANN thread:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4058576.msg37984639#msg37984639


Title: Re: [Bounty] vDinar ✦ 30000 coins ✦ Media sharing for Balkans' currency
Post by: hoanghai101296 on May 21, 2018, 01:36:33 AM
https://i.imgur.com/MyW47D5.png


BitcoinTalk Name: hoanghai101296
Rank: Jr. Member
BitcoinTalk Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=157590
Document for translate:  Whitepaper (ANN , Website)
Eth Address: 0x13e41eb8bf472d8540aa0adf4f8c32db0e5e5eb7
Email: hoanghai101296@gmail.com
Please PM or email me if you accept.
Previous Translations:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17GTTMe6ty4k1iH8CptPqDjyaGbRlZeh_g60sFke_sxg/edit?usp=sharing


Title: Re: [Bounty] vDinar ✦ 30000 coins ✦ Media sharing for Balkans' currency
Post by: alarmod on May 21, 2018, 05:17:52 AM
http://img.pereslavl.ru/img/di/4F7Y/twitter_alarmod85.jpg

http://img.pereslavl.ru/img/di/EKB6/reddit_alarmod.jpg

Discord: alarmod#0726

Wallet: D6G1wZbwzwKd8bYSuY6ZRGSdPzFgkFCvgv



Title: Re: [Bounty] vDinar ✦ 30000 coins ✦ Media sharing for Balkans' currency
Post by: konthee on May 21, 2018, 05:36:12 AM
This is a good project. I am looking forward for this project


telegram ..... https://t.me/vDinarGroup


Title: Re: [Bounty] vDinar ✦ 30000 coins ✦ Media sharing for Balkans' currency
Post by: DejanGrande on May 21, 2018, 06:12:51 AM

Hi,
for the Twitter campaign you also need to follow our page. Then you can obtain your bounty prize when reaching the required amount of likes or retweets.
For the Reddit campaign you can now go on with the posting!

This is a good project. I am looking forward for this project


telegram ..... https://t.me/vDinarGroup

Thank you for your support!


Title: Re: [Bounty] vDinar ✦ 30000 coins ✦ Media sharing for Balkans' currency
Post by: alanza osana on May 21, 2018, 06:28:58 AM
This project is inovative and will surely gets the success.


Title: Re: [Bounty] vDinar ✦ 30000 coins ✦ Media sharing for Balkans' currency
Post by: DejanGrande on May 21, 2018, 06:32:46 AM
This project is inovative and will surely gets the success.

Thank you! Keep following us!


Title: Re: [Bounty] vDinar ✦ 30000 coins ✦ Media sharing for Balkans' currency
Post by: sb054 on May 21, 2018, 02:44:10 PM
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This is a good project. I am looking forward for this project

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Title: Re: [Bounty] vDinar ✦ 30000 coins ✦ Media sharing for Balkans' currency
Post by: DejanGrande on May 21, 2018, 06:14:32 PM
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This is a good project. I am looking forward for this project

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Thank you sb054!


Title: Re: [Bounty] vDinar ✦ 30000 coins ✦ Media sharing for Balkans' currency
Post by: chandrarahmadewa on May 22, 2018, 03:03:29 PM
The link to Indonesia translation of the ANN thread

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4136209.msg38173717#msg38173717


Title: Re: [Bounty] vDinar ✦ 30000 coins ✦ Media sharing for Balkans' currency
Post by: DejanGrande on May 23, 2018, 08:49:37 PM
Translations made by bounty participants

ARABIC TRANSLATION (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4058576)
INDONESIAN TRANSLATION (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4136209)
VIETNAMESE TRANSLATION [BitcoinGarden] (https://bitcoingarden.org/forum/index.php?topic=37771)


Title: Re: [Bounty] vDinar ✦ 30000 coins ✦ Media sharing for Balkans' currency
Post by: DejanGrande on May 24, 2018, 06:37:53 PM
First payments round!
Everyone who contributed has been rewarded!
Keep working for your rewards!


Title: Re: [Bounty] vDinar ✦ 30000 coins ✦ Media sharing for Balkans' currency
Post by: dorama on May 26, 2018, 05:35:11 AM
A good project, and interesting idea, waiting for it