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Title: primedice scammed me ? 2018
Post by: kivedive on May 21, 2018, 12:59:46 PM
hi all

i was rolling with my bankroll 0.335 bitcoin

i was play with payout x1.16 i fall in streak with 1 satoshi rolling

i see i hit 10 hits in high numbers with 1 satoshi i go change payout to x2 and change side also i fall again in 11 hits in row with high numbers

this posible or imposible cause i lost all balance 0.33 btc

look at pic proofs  >> https://prnt.sc/jkno8q

befor this screen i hit 10 hits with high nummbers guys ...thats mean total hits in high side is  21 hits in high nummbers

this scond screen shoot fter 21 hits look proof >>

https://prnt.sc/jknpjs

i ask support irena .. to give me last 25 bets she say .she cant do that ..i think this site is scam ..if you not have bets in your data how i cant trust you ?

please guys what you think ?

primedice scamed me ?


Title: Re: primedice scammed me ? 2018
Post by: lancer9848 on May 21, 2018, 01:08:19 PM
hi all

i was rolling with my bankroll 0.335 bitcoin

i was play with payout x1.16 i fall in streak with 1 satoshi rolling

i see i hit 10 hits in high numbers with 1 satoshi i go change payout to x2 and change side also i fall again in 11 hits in row with high numbers

this posible or imposible cause i lost all balance 0.33 btc

look at pic proofs  >> https://prnt.sc/jkno8q

befor this screen i hit 10 hits with high nummbers guys ...thats mean total hits in high side is  21 hits in high nummbers

this scond screen shoot fter 21 hits look proof >>

https://prnt.sc/jknpjs

i ask support irena .. to give me last 25 bets she say .she cant do that ..i think this site is scam ..if you not have bets in your data how i cant trust you ?

please guys what you think ?

primedice scamed me ?

you are unlucky. nothing more.


Title: Re: primedice scammed me ? 2018
Post by: yogg on May 21, 2018, 01:15:50 PM
hi all

i was rolling with my bankroll 0.335 bitcoin

i was play with payout x1.16 i fall in streak with 1 satoshi rolling

i see i hit 10 hits in high numbers with 1 satoshi i go change payout to x2 and change side also i fall again in 11 hits in row with high numbers

this posible or imposible cause i lost all balance 0.33 btc

look at pic proofs  >> https://prnt.sc/jkno8q

befor this screen i hit 10 hits with high nummbers guys ...thats mean total hits in high side is  21 hits in high nummbers

this scond screen shoot fter 21 hits look proof >>

https://prnt.sc/jknpjs

i ask support irena .. to give me last 25 bets she say .she cant do that ..i think this site is scam ..if you not have bets in your data how i cant trust you ?

please guys what you think ?

primedice scamed me ?

Sorry, you just lost your BTC at the game of dice.
You had some chances of winning. You have to understand that you have one chance in two to lose or win.
Believing that you will win 5 times in the future because you just lost 5 times falls under the gambler's fallacy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambler%27s_fallacy).

Primedice won't scam. Have you checked the provable fairness details regarding your bets ?


Title: Re: primedice scammed me ? 2018
Post by: Rinsend on May 21, 2018, 01:18:43 PM
very funny to read what you say, I think it is not a scam, but the stupidity you do. looking at what you do, it's a high level of greed, and that's what's going to cause you huge losses, people like you who are often addicts that will cause you to go bankrupt and encounter debt-laden problems and the like  ;D ;D


Title: Re: primedice scammed me ? 2018
Post by: kivedive on May 21, 2018, 01:44:08 PM
guys  lancer9848 and yogg and Rinsend

i see you allways in bitcointalk with ur posting

You are very professional in answering such topics

i know you are from support primedice and stake.com

i know you want show peopel primedice is not scam but you lie on who ?


Title: Re: primedice scammed me ? 2018
Post by: lancer9848 on May 21, 2018, 01:54:01 PM
guys  lancer9848 and yogg and Rinsend

i see you allways in bitcointalk with ur posting

You are very professional in answering such topics

i know you are from support primedice and stake.com

i know you want show peopel primedice is not scam but you lie on who ?


point 1 i'm not supporter of pd or stake or any other dice site.( check my old posts. how i'm questioning pd main thread)

point 2 you should have prior knowledge regarding to the hashing thing. so it will make you easier to understand provably fair


Title: Re: primedice scammed me ? 2018
Post by: btcdevil on May 21, 2018, 02:25:46 PM
In the Dice Gambling anything is possible as i have seen lot of time gamblers come and complaining about getting scam due to loosing streak. But it is very common in dice gambling. Lot of gambling games have this type of loosing streak. So i think nothing is scam but you should first learn about it then have to be playing it. It is not always that if you lose 2 or 3 hands then next you will win surely.


Title: Re: primedice scammed me ? 2018
Post by: livingfree on May 21, 2018, 02:47:16 PM
You bet > you lost > ask the support to return the bitcoin you lost? What kind of sorcery is that?

That's not how you gamble and primedice is one of the most trusted and established dice site since then so I don't think that they will scam. You are just unlucky mate.


Title: Re: primedice scammed me ? 2018
Post by: s0lidus on May 21, 2018, 02:48:34 PM
hi all

i was rolling with my bankroll 0.335 bitcoin

i was play with payout x1.16 i fall in streak with 1 satoshi rolling

i see i hit 10 hits in high numbers with 1 satoshi i go change payout to x2 and change side also i fall again in 11 hits in row with high numbers

this posible or imposible cause i lost all balance 0.33 btc

look at pic proofs  >> https://prnt.sc/jkno8q

befor this screen i hit 10 hits with high nummbers guys ...thats mean total hits in high side is  21 hits in high nummbers

this scond screen shoot fter 21 hits look proof >>

https://prnt.sc/jknpjs

i ask support irena .. to give me last 25 bets she say .she cant do that ..i think this site is scam ..if you not have bets in your data how i cant trust you ?

please guys what you think ?

primedice scamed me ?


Hey, first of all sorry for your loss. It's a big loss at current BTC rates.

But you can't accuse a casino of scamming with only a screenshot of your rolls. Before you start to gamble somewhere, get familiar with their system that generates your dice rolls. That way you'll be aware and know if a casino is fair or not. Your scam accusation in this case would only be ligit if you can prove that PD has manipulated your seeds, which i doubt. I don't gamble on PD, but as far as I know you're able to change your client seed manually before each bet as well. So if you're having doubts in their randomness of generating client seeds, set your client seed manually before each bet.
And again, you can't prove anything with these screenshots other than you had a very unlucky streak. Better luck next time and know what you're dealing with before you accuse casinos. Don't mind people calling you greedy and stupid, they didn't experience your loss and the way you feel. But this isn't the way to process your loss.


Title: Re: primedice scammed me ? 2018
Post by: vella85 on May 21, 2018, 11:53:16 PM
Sorry to hear about your loss however this comes with gambling, I don't believe you were scammed at all and you just were very unlucky which can sometimes happen in all gambling games. This is why its key to set yourself a limit and stick to it and don't bet more then you can afford to lose.


Title: Re: primedice scammed me ? 2018
Post by: Flagship11 on May 21, 2018, 11:57:04 PM
As others have mentioned, it's called gambling for a reason.
Dice games are a big part of BTC gambling community, always have and always will be.


Title: Re: primedice scammed me ? 2018
Post by: SyGambler on May 22, 2018, 05:27:21 AM
gamblers fallacy at its best , you are thinking that since there were 20 high rolls that means that your 21 roll will be low but this is so not true
the dice doesn't have a brain to think that it's time for a low , you are taking 49.50%/50.50% chance so it's a flip
people should start learning how math works in gambling before accusing sites


Title: Re: primedice scammed me ? 2018
Post by: Aikidoka on May 22, 2018, 01:42:39 PM
No one is lying to you. But you are lying to yourself. You obviously are trying to convince yourself that you have been scammed. Why did you not think of it as a fluke? Another point, scammers would not even answer you. You clearly got swallowed by your own greed.

You probably should take another shot, and if you think it is a scam, then do not go for it from now, as simple as that. It is true that there are many scammers out there. The best think to do is to be smart.


Title: Re: primedice scammed me ? 2018
Post by: quiettoad on May 23, 2018, 01:57:20 AM
20+ hits of high numbers don't guarantee the next roll will be low. I even experienced a 25+ streak loss based on a simple martingale strategy. Set your stop loss limit and don't expect to always win, however smart your strategy might look.


Title: Re: primedice scammed me ? 2018
Post by: BTCevo on May 23, 2018, 04:10:36 AM
hi all

i was rolling with my bankroll 0.335 bitcoin

i was play with payout x1.16 i fall in streak with 1 satoshi rolling

i see i hit 10 hits in high numbers with 1 satoshi i go change payout to x2 and change side also i fall again in 11 hits in row with high numbers

this posible or imposible cause i lost all balance 0.33 btc

look at pic proofs  >> https://prnt.sc/jkno8q

befor this screen i hit 10 hits with high nummbers guys ...thats mean total hits in high side is  21 hits in high nummbers

this scond screen shoot fter 21 hits look proof >>

https://prnt.sc/jknpjs

i ask support irena .. to give me last 25 bets she say .she cant do that ..i think this site is scam ..if you not have bets in your data how i cant trust you ?

please guys what you think ?

primedice scamed me ?

I do not think if primedice scammed you, if you do not believe them then you can verify your bet as well. What this occurance means is you are just run out of luck, with 0.3 btc as your balance may be you can start with 0.001 btc instead of 0.01btc because you can suffer more in case this thing happens. This is just some unlucky scene, not something that you need to brag out to manipulate others. I even suffer more than 20 losing streak in a row last time


Title: Re: primedice scammed me ? 2018
Post by: panjul07 on May 23, 2018, 08:26:03 AM
Just another gambler who thinks that he will win by using martingale strategy but he forget that about the possibility of getting bad losing streak, nothing else. Or another gambler who says a site is a scam because he lost his money and will say something the opposite if he win.
Classic story of gambler who cant afford to lose their money because they have a big hope to double up their balance easily.


Title: Re: primedice scammed me ? 2018
Post by: boy130 on May 23, 2018, 08:51:04 AM
Really makes me angry when I see these kinds of posts. So because your bullshit strategy lost, you suddenly think that primedice scammed you? Have you ever heard of provably fair? Why don't you verify your rolls and see if they actually scammed you. It's always the same broken english posts as well. I honestly don't think I've ever seen a post like this written in clear english, maybe you should gamble on sites in your native language so you can actually read the rules.


Title: Re: primedice scammed me ? 2018
Post by: Betwrong on May 23, 2018, 10:46:33 AM
hi all

i was rolling with my bankroll 0.335 bitcoin

i was play with payout x1.16 i fall in streak with 1 satoshi rolling

i see i hit 10 hits in high numbers with 1 satoshi i go change payout to x2 and change side also i fall again in 11 hits in row with high numbers

this posible or imposible cause i lost all balance 0.33 btc

look at pic proofs  >> https://prnt.sc/jkno8q

befor this screen i hit 10 hits with high nummbers guys ...thats mean total hits in high side is  21 hits in high nummbers

this scond screen shoot fter 21 hits look proof >>

https://prnt.sc/jknpjs

i ask support irena .. to give me last 25 bets she say .she cant do that ..i think this site is scam ..if you not have bets in your data how i cant trust you ?

please guys what you think ?

primedice scamed me ?

I'm sorry you've lost that much, but please understand that there was no scam involved. I believe you that there were 21 high numbers in a row. You don't have to ask support for your 25 last bets because even if they provided you with that it wouldn't prove anything from your accusations. Every gambler knows that 21 reds with 50% win chance is possible. You should have known that too before starting playing. Again, I'm sorry for your loss. Please don't try to make money with gambling, ever.


Title: Re: primedice scammed me ? 2018
Post by: marlboroza on May 23, 2018, 11:03:21 AM
Looks like martingale with pre-rolls went wrong.
When will you learn that martingale can lead only to loss.  ::)
i ask support irena .. to give me last 25 bets she say .she cant do that ..
Why not? It is clear that you made lots bets https://primedice.com/?bet=22325017499&fair using the same seeds.
i think this site is scam ..if you not have bets in your data how i cant trust you ?

please guys what you think ?

primedice scamed me ?
They can't really cheat, their provably fair includes server seed + client seed + nonce.
Use this https://dicesites.com/primedice/verifier and verify last 8 bets.


Title: Re: primedice scammed me ? 2018
Post by: Supercrypt on May 23, 2018, 03:34:20 PM
you are unlucky. nothing more.
Must be that is the point here.
I do not think Primedice owe you any data as I believe you should have seen the last few bets anyway to know how things ended up going. Moreover, you are gambling and you should know very well that the same way you can win in long streaks, is the same way you can lose in long streaks, and most of the time the long streaks of losses is even more guaranteed than the one of winning.

It is gambling and I wonder what the OP must have been expecting. Maybe because they call it provably and fair, he thinks he will never lose.


Title: Re: primedice scammed me ? 2018
Post by: Theb on May 23, 2018, 04:02:00 PM
You cannot justify your winning streak before you started losing when you used the martingale technique, you just got unlucky with the rolls you have. Also what is the point of you asking Irena your last 25 bets? Will it prove something that they scammed you or will it just show the winning streak you are having when you are just betting low? Although I have a theory why you lose, you added an extra of .02135000BTC which made your martingale technique invalid.


Title: Re: primedice scammed me ? 2018
Post by: Shenzou on May 23, 2018, 10:27:33 PM
I know that you are trying so hard to find an explanation for your loss and blame it on the site, but in reality its all your fault, you are the one responsible for your loss, dice is a very chance dependent game, at some points you really think that your next roll will surely win but you end up losing, either that or all the dice games in all the online casinos are designed like that, if it was something that will surely be profitable everyone would be wining in dice games, you should'v known what you are risking.


Title: Re: primedice scammed me ? 2018
Post by: Devawnm367 on May 24, 2018, 07:25:14 AM
I'm not sure if you were scammed as I have read some decent reviews about primedice check your bet details as I think you hit wrong button, or something, dig a little deeper, have you tried reaching out to the company???


Title: Re: primedice scammed me ? 2018
Post by: iv4n on May 24, 2018, 09:18:49 AM
you are unlucky. nothing more.
Must be that is the point here.
I do not think Primedice owe you any data as I believe you should have seen the last few bets anyway to know how things ended up going. Moreover, you are gambling and you should know very well that the same way you can win in long streaks, is the same way you can lose in long streaks, and most of the time the long streaks of losses is even more guaranteed than the one of winning.

It is gambling and I wonder what the OP must have been expecting. Maybe because they call it provably and fair, he thinks he will never lose.

He was unlucky, same comment draw my attention and its probably the right answer. OP expected to make a lot of money, he lost and he felt it would be good for him to come here and cry about it, blame bitcoin, casino, and all of us who support that devil thing.
He is not the first or the last one who is crying about losing money on gambling, its always some newbie. I always ask why didn't they come here sooner, before they lost their money. Probably its easier to cry in the end then to prepare yourself.


Title: Re: primedice scammed me ? 2018
Post by: yousbabtle on June 09, 2018, 07:23:53 AM
hi all

i was rolling with my bankroll 0.335 bitcoin

i was play with payout x1.16 i fall in streak with 1 satoshi rolling

i see i hit 10 hits in high numbers with 1 satoshi i go change payout to x2 and change side also i fall again in 11 hits in row with high numbers

this posible or imposible cause i lost all balance 0.33 btc

look at pic proofs  >> https://prnt.sc/jkno8q

befor this screen i hit 10 hits with high nummbers guys ...thats mean total hits in high side is  21 hits in high nummbers

this scond screen shoot fter 21 hits look proof >>

https://prnt.sc/jknpjs

i ask support irena .. to give me last 25 bets she say .she cant do that ..i think this site is scam ..if you not have bets in your data how i cant trust you ?

please guys what you think ?

primedice scamed me ?
Seriously bro? You played a dice game, ended up losing on a long streak and because of that you called that a scam? I am sure you did not know the implication of what you are doing before even considering gambling with as much as that in this day and age which I am sure you must have bet with a high amount since it did not take much streak in getting you down hard. Live with it and accept your fate, it is the way gambling is fashioned and you are not guaranteed to win.


Title: Re: primedice scammed me ? 2018
Post by: BlueStackz on June 09, 2018, 10:14:26 AM
guys  lancer9848 and yogg and Rinsend

i see you allways in bitcointalk with ur posting

You are very professional in answering such topics

i know you are from support primedice and stake.com

i know you want show peopel primedice is not scam but you lie on who ?

You are really missing the point here bro and for one fact, winning is never guaranteed in gambling and for the fact that you were unlucky does not make the gambling site a scam.

If you win a huge amount of money and you refuse being paid, then probably you should report them as a scam but not from losing from a dice game that was stated as provably fair unless you just do not understand what that means at all. This is not about them lying or not, this is about you being pained for losing after expecting too much from gambling.


Title: Re: primedice scammed me ? 2018
Post by: Shinpako09 on June 09, 2018, 10:29:49 PM
You shouldn't play gambling if you can't accept your loss. Also you can verify your own bets for you to see if they cheated on you. In dice, bet low, you win, bet high, you lose. That case isn't new, it's common in dice and almost everyone knows that. Just accept your loss man.


Title: Re: primedice scammed me ? 2018
Post by: NeuroticFish on June 11, 2018, 06:25:32 AM
look at pic proofs  >> https://prnt.sc/jkno8q

This is a great proof that Martingale doesn't work. And nothing more than that. Not a scam at all.

Try to learn that gambling is to have fun, try to play only the amounts you afford to lose and try to accept your loses. Maybe some day you also win a lot, with some more luck and clearly no blind trust into Martingale system.


Title: Re: primedice scammed me ? 2018
Post by: SirLancelot on June 12, 2018, 10:32:49 AM
guys  lancer9848 and yogg and Rinsend

i see you allways in bitcointalk with ur posting

You are very professional in answering such topics

i know you are from support primedice and stake.com

i know you want show peopel primedice is not scam but you lie on who ?

You are really missing the point here bro and for one fact, winning is never guaranteed in gambling and for the fact that you were unlucky does not make the gambling site a scam.

If you win a huge amount of money and you refuse being paid, then probably you should report them as a scam but not from losing from a dice game that was stated as provably fair unless you just do not understand what that means at all. This is not about them lying or not, this is about you being pained for losing after expecting too much from gambling.
This is fair as you are playing dice on Primedice and it is your less knowledge but does not matter as you are here in gambling you have many more chances and you can win in future if you improve your online gambling skills and knowledge.

Do not bet high because we know that there are equal chances of winning and losing both. Bet low and first master yourself in any game you desire for after which you would be able to go for high bets.


Title: Re: primedice scammed me ? 2018
Post by: Ranly123 on June 12, 2018, 11:29:13 AM
hi all

i was rolling with my bankroll 0.335 bitcoin

i was play with payout x1.16 i fall in streak with 1 satoshi rolling

i see i hit 10 hits in high numbers with 1 satoshi i go change payout to x2 and change side also i fall again in 11 hits in row with high numbers

this posible or imposible cause i lost all balance 0.33 btc

look at pic proofs  >> https://prnt.sc/jkno8q

befor this screen i hit 10 hits with high nummbers guys ...thats mean total hits in high side is  21 hits in high nummbers

this scond screen shoot fter 21 hits look proof >>

https://prnt.sc/jknpjs

i ask support irena .. to give me last 25 bets she say .she cant do that ..i think this site is scam ..if you not have bets in your data how i cant trust you ?

please guys what you think ?

primedice scamed me ?

I guess primedice did not scam you. It just happened that you lose many time over. In the game of dice you will have two path to go, win or lose. So when luck does not favor you, then don't drag the site to your loss.


Title: Re: primedice scammed me ? 2018
Post by: Siren on June 12, 2018, 01:02:18 PM
Primedice is on of the most legitimate and reliable gambling site in cryptocurrency world and i believe on their transparency because even though that im not a typical gambler i have some friends that playing on primedice and they can bouch about the goodness and protection of the said site so this cant be true

And upon checking your complaints it seem like you have lost your chance in winning and no scamming or other illegal happens,just try luck in next time.