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Title: Manipulation dumps are so 2011
Post by: EuroTrash on January 10, 2014, 08:45:15 AM
I know - screaming "manipulation!" at big dumps is so 2011 - but still:

https://i.imgur.com/J38daxo.png

Whoever is executing these big market sells while paying so much in slippage is either very stupid or cleverly motivated.


Title: Re: Manipulation dumps are so 2011
Post by: T.Stuart on January 10, 2014, 08:48:44 AM
Thank you for making this point.

Without a doubt unease is seeping out of your average Joe Public Bitcoiner and into your average would-be panic-sell instigator.


Title: Re: Manipulation dumps are so 2011
Post by: jamesc760 on January 10, 2014, 12:11:08 PM
I detect sarcasm in above poster's post...


Title: Re: Manipulation dumps are so 2011
Post by: T.Stuart on January 10, 2014, 12:19:18 PM
I detect sarcasm in above poster's post...

Not at all! You don't have to but if you check what else I've been writing you'll see I'm not being sarcastic here.  :)


Title: Re: Manipulation dumps are so 2011
Post by: Mikcik on January 10, 2014, 01:23:24 PM
Well i dont know... is it really manipulation...? A lot of people dont understand markets, so yeah there might be few people with big stash who just wanted to cash out quickly...

Or it might be just conincidence that the volume was so high in one moment...

Why call it a manipulation right away...? Do you have any other proof?


Title: Re: Manipulation dumps are so 2011
Post by: MatTheCat on January 10, 2014, 01:23:53 PM
I detect sarcasm in above poster's post...

In 9/10 cases you would be correct.....


....but not with T.Stuart.

It is a shame really. I like him, but he is going to get his arse handed to him on a plate during this near term age of Karhu.


Title: Re: Manipulation dumps are so 2011
Post by: Bitcopia on January 10, 2014, 05:36:11 PM
I detect sarcasm in above poster's post...

In 9/10 cases you would be correct.....


....but not with T.Stuart.

It is a shame really. I like him, but he is going to get his arse handed to him on a plate during this near term age of Karhu.

Karhu was good for a quick laugh. Let's not encourage him to keep it up.

As an investor, returning from irrational exuberance to the trend line is not a bear market. As a swing trader, I'm not concerned about the short term bear market, because my trades are accounting for it.

The REAL bears are still waiting for $5 coins. If indeed we start slipping into sub $100 territory, I will bow to Karhu.


Title: Re: Manipulation dumps are so 2011
Post by: Kungfucheez on January 10, 2014, 05:51:37 PM
It's just as funny as the people who think the buy and sell walls on an exchange is all just one person.  :D


Title: Re: Manipulation dumps are so 2011
Post by: pbody on January 10, 2014, 06:25:11 PM
I dont think those dumps are manipulators. Would not make sense to dump so much at those prices. How much slippage is there?


Title: Re: Manipulation dumps are so 2011
Post by: TERA on January 10, 2014, 06:50:04 PM
Sometimes people (or automated services) need to buy and sell large amounts of coin. Why is that hard to understand? Why is everything a scheme?


Title: Re: Manipulation dumps are so 2011
Post by: MatTheCat on January 10, 2014, 06:50:29 PM

As an investor, returning from irrational exuberance to the trend line is not a bear market


YOU HAVE ANGERED KARHU!

http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/8157/w10r.png

AND YOU WILL BE PUNISHED!


Title: Re: Manipulation dumps are so 2011
Post by: Wilhelm on January 10, 2014, 07:29:55 PM
Maybe it's not a manipulation but a side effect.
Quite some hacks have been done on bitcoin companies. Maybe the hackers dumped the BTC for LTC or fiat. They didn't care about the market they just wanted to convert their hacked BTC.
The effect is a crappy timed sloppy trade with big volume.


Title: Re: Manipulation dumps are so 2011
Post by: GigaCoin on January 10, 2014, 10:32:07 PM
I know - screaming "manipulation!" at big dumps is so 2011 - but still:

https://i.imgur.com/J38daxo.png

Whoever is executing these big market sells while paying so much in slippage is either very stupid or cleverly motivated.

Spider!


Title: Re: Manipulation dumps are so 2011
Post by: traderCJ on January 11, 2014, 02:21:46 AM
Sooooo is this price spike manipulation?  ;D


Title: Re: Manipulation dumps are so 2011
Post by: arepo on January 11, 2014, 02:47:50 AM
if you think any large-volume price movement is manipulation, you're going to have a bad time.


Title: Re: Manipulation dumps are so 2011
Post by: knightcoin on January 11, 2014, 03:02:59 AM
Matrix II  ;D

http://www.imageupload.co.uk/images/2014/01/11/51%C2%ACGride%C2%ACPower%C2%ACTesla.png

Black Hat Mr. Fyodor (BGP Nitghtmare IS-IS lol)  ::)

http://youtu.be/Hk-21p2m8YY  8)


Title: Re: Manipulation dumps are so 2011
Post by: Kungfucheez on January 11, 2014, 03:12:13 AM
Matrix II  ;D

http://www.imageupload.co.uk/images/2014/01/11/51%C2%ACGride%C2%ACPower%C2%ACTesla.png

Black Hat Mr. Fyodor (BGP Nitghtmare IS-IS lol)  ::)

http://youtu.be/Hk-21p2m8YY  8)

lol that's pretty neat, never realized the password was "Z10N0101" haha  :D


Title: Re: Manipulation dumps are so 2011
Post by: JimboToronto on January 11, 2014, 02:15:54 PM

As an investor, returning from irrational exuberance to the trend line is not a bear market


YOU HAVE ANGERED KARHU!

http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/8157/w10r.png

AND YOU WILL BE PUNISHED!

http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/vv10/JimboToronto/durp.gif (http://s664.photobucket.com/user/JimboToronto/media/durp.gif.html)