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Selling KnCminer Saturn October Shipment: The product is in perfect condition, without any problem and has always worked at low temperatures as you can see from the pictures

Price: I have already received offers of around 5.5 BTC but I want to receive more deals

Payment methods accepted: BTC

Additional information:

- Photos of device with username proof and screenshot of worker performance: http://imgur.com/a/VbB87

- Power supply is not included, but I can throw it in with the package if you would like pay a right price.

- Same or next day shipping after getting payment.

- Free shipping in Italy, International buyers pay shipping at own expense, pickup can be arranged.

- If you don't want fast delivery and an escrow preferred, you pay fees, ether through John K.

For any questions just ask!

U mean November batch, right?

It's October batch

so you have over clocked it.

is it  4VRM or  8VRM boards?

can we get some pictures of your cgminer screen, knc status page and the Advanced tuning page

thanks

It's 4VRM with little OC

John K doesnt work anymore, He scammed people. Just letting you know.

PM sent

Sorry but I don't know last news about John K.
I'm of the opinion that no escrow is better and faster

Especially with local pickup ;D

sebasitian JU, he is germany based, so same time zone as you and I

I am based in NL.

What shipping option will you use? DHL express?

5.75btc next day shipping usa, escrowed

5.8 escrow shipping NL all inc.

I'll up my offer to 6btc

Ill offer 6btc also but shipping to NL will be cheaper than usa

I'd like to hear the details of this

I will listen to your offers until Monday, then I will accept the best so that you can have the Saturn by the weekend.
For the shipping you choose between UPS, DHL or others.

IIRC he is MIA, Just seam to have disappeared.

I can provide escrow if necessary.

My offer is valid until tomorrow morning at 9am as i would like yhe unit shipped that day via DHL express ao i get it the next day, not by the following weekend

I have his cell (johnK) and I'm pretty well known as an Escrow in Malaysia. (if you need one)
http://bitcoinmalaysia.com/2014/01/05/featured-on-wall-street-journal-and-coindesk/

I received offers for 6 BTC someone offers more?

For the Escrow:
I would prefer not to use the escrow because I'm the only one that is not protected by this process.
The buyer can cheat both me and the Escrow saying that there is something broken in the Saturn, keep my good one and send me back one that had already broken.
Or mine with my Saturn for a few days and after send it back with any excuse.

The right process for me:
The buyer can be access remotely to the Saturn so you can view that everything works perfectly.
After the buyer checked, send me the BTC and I send the Saturn.

This is not true at all.

Sorry but without typical escrow for a deal like this by bids are not valid, and i am sure anyone else who bid asking for escorow would say the same.

without escrow my bid would be about half as it is a pure gamble

This is so taboo to speak of around here.
The drawbacks of escrowing.

This forum is very hostile towards anyone who even questions the authenticity of escrowing.  The burden of negotiating and transacting in good faith falls squarely on the shoulders of sellers.  The fact is, I was nearly scammed of my 2 Jupiters less than 3 weeks ago from a "verified" escrow service.

A trade-swap with faulty hardware, like you pointed out, certainly does scare me.  This can be addressed by indicating privately to the escrow something that makes your device unique though.

Ultimately, it's a risk for the seller to sell using escrow, as opposed a risk to the buyer, without escrow.

Lots of sellers are scammers, lots of buyers are scammers.

The nature of the crypto-currency market.

Good luck with your sale.

Yep my offer withdrawn

escrow bad

Projects didn't nearly "swipe 500 BTC".  He did.

what's payment method for buy it?  :)

The Saturn was sold to matt4054.
The delivery was made in person with pickups.
We will confirm when he will return to Switzerland that I am not a scammer as you thought.

so he flew from zurich just to buy your miner?

Yes, it came with the car.
He is a nice and great man.

I confirm that I bought the KnC Saturn in hand from degosa. He was very nice and friendly, I'm pretty sure he's a trustworthy person to deal with, should he make any futures sales.

Yes, I did the long trip by car, and it cost me probably more than DHL Express, but I am in control of the whole buying process. Besides the shipping cost, I saved about $500 with a trick that I can't explain here (obvious is obvious for those who read between the lines).

Italy is a nice country to travel by car. The Tutor (http://www.asecap.com/english/documents/GalataASPI_000.pdf) speed control system is amazing but strangely, the average speed on the left lane stays quite high :D Very nice sights and food, too bad I was too sleep deprived to enjoy it. Maybe next time...

So the deal went smoothly and I'm happy hashing with the unit. End of this story.

Would not be so sure about the OP's trustworthyness..
I CALL HIM A LIAR!

The story: I sold OP a KNC preorder-spot (a nice low 3X order), he never paid, nor responded to email/pm thereafter.
He got a day 1 preorder as stated here:

PM history tells the story:
--> Said he didn't pay, whilst later on the italian forum stating the exact opposite. --> LIAR!

--> So.. Mr did not order his saturn as 'no confirmation was given by KNC'. Believed him that far.  Turns out he lied, still he got 'my' day 1 saturn and ignores my messages!
I'd rather call him untrustworthy and a liar if he can get away with it. Don't deal with this guy unless face to face, he will scam if he can!

OP, if this is a misunderstanding feel free to contact me to keep your end of the bargain and I will rectify here.

Especially with a jr.

@jbah01
I continue to reiterate as I have said privately that i've bought an account of one friend which had paid a Saturn preorder, has shared his preorder after payment because he had financial problems.
As you know, i could not use your pre-order because has been changed after the closure of pre-orders.

Remember the reply of the KNCMiner Customer Service, this email has been sent to you:


Think what you want, this is the truth.

Do not contact me anymore, and no more afford to say that I am a scammer.

I sold Saturn to Matt in person and we all loved it, I'm an honest person and I'm not going to waste time with someone like you.