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Travel back to 2011, buy £1500 in BTC and exchange it back in modern day.

Millionaire!

If I had a time machine, I'd go back to 1985. I heard trouble was a brew'in back then.

Ditto. if everyone had those types of machines , time wouldnt exist..what a dumb thread though.
Bitcoin will still rise is still considered early in its stage...if you bought at 400. you would have made a nice profit now. thats was only 2 weeks ago.

Funny that you wouldn't just go back to 2010 when they were trading for fractions of a penny. Or just forget the 1500 pounds and go back to 2009 with a cheap Asicminer USB and computer, rent a datacenter and just let it hash away for a few years.  Of course, that would leave evidence in the blockchain and you'd probably be disintegrated by the time police.  I think that's how time travel works, right?

In any case, hindsight is 20/20 but I think you underestimate what the situation was like in 2011. No one, I mean no one had heard of bitcoin. Buying bitcoin seemed a little like investing in magic beans. This forum was, if anything, split as to whether bitcoin was worth anything and there were plenty of people here who were anti-bitcoin and begged people not to get caught up in the "Ponzi scheme" (haven't seen many of those types since late 2012). Even the most ardent supporters tended to admit that it had a good chance of failing.  Many of the same things people talk about today - hard forks, government intervention, ASICs and the centralization of mining, whatever - were talked about then, but practically none of it had happened yet so it was anyone's guess how it would turn out. People would talk about $1000 bitcoins occasionally but rarely seriously.

In short: Bitcoin, where it currently stands, is just about the best possible outcome any reasonable person could have wished for in 2011.

IF ONLY we could go back 3 years.... cmon god it's only 3 years!

I think better way to think is what value can I create now given that you cant go back in time and make money. There are thousands of ways to make money in this new crypto economy I plan to start a few new businesses and make money that way. You can also invest some across a few of the promising coins and store value there. I think #1 way now is create something people with coins will want of value and profit from providing it, that in my opinion is the best way.

Good luck and bfree!

If there aren't many good online wallets now...and you currently have to worry about your client wallets crashing or being hacked, can you imagine how hard it was to hold coins a few years ago?  Not to mention all of your friends or relatives laughing and telling you what a complete fool you were for buying, or mining magic beans.

If I had a time machine last thing I would do is think of BTC investment. I would just simply change my life and the lives of people I know. As for the money wouldn't it be easier to just write down the lotery numbers?:D You'd win few milion instantly and could forget about BTC or any other investment.

Time travel is possible and will be feasible in the near future.  Though you don't need a machine to do it.

I think everyone would like to do that.

What will you need? Quality genetically modified weed?

It certainly wouldn't hurt.

You can time travel simply by closing your eyes and imagining.  And it can be done right now!   :)

Really? I wish that I could just have a few thousand BTC to hold in my bag. Mind, I'd probably somehow lose it all.

Imagine how that bloke who threw his hard drive away must be feeling. I bet he's well-iLivid.

You couldn't be more correct vod, thank you for speaking positively. :)

Though, after singularity, you will be able to physically revisit any time, at any place, at your will.  All it takes is belief that you can do so.

It will never be posible I think the reason if it was lets say in 100 years then we would see people coming back to this time

I doubt he even had any coins to begin with. That whole story smelt fishy to me.

Sorry Dank, that's your psychosis talking.

The one limitation about closing your eyes and imagining yourself in different times is that it is imagination.  (i.e. Your body can't come with you).   ;)

But you keep dreaming - nothing wrong with that.   :)

Were you reading the story near a fish market by any chance?

Yeah I suppose that anybody could come up with that cock and bull story for the media attention. Did you see the forum post (don't think that it was here) supposedly by the person who supposedly threw away this supposed hard drive, he was trying to raise funds to find the hard drive.

IIRC it was something along the lines of:

Give me 1 BTC and you will get 25 BTC back in return when I find the hard drive.

ScamCity or what haha.

Doesn't quite work like that.  Time is not linear, we only live in the present.  Hence, why I said revisit the past.  There are infinite dimensions so you can relive any moment you wish, and even change the course of that moment but it will effect that dimension rather than the one we currently live in.

But I understand where you're coming from, that was my perspective on time travel too before I grasped the concept.

Have you ever had a dream?

Nope  lol. Was it by the guy who claimed to have lost them or someone impersonating him to try cash in on idiots? I'm guessing the latter.

Of course time is linear - it only moves in one direction.

I'd love to hear scientific reasoning (even one born out of insanity) of how you think time could move backwards.

Humans invented time by measuring how many times a certain atom vibrates in a certain amount of time.  Vibrates back and forth.  If you were to reverse time, the atom would still vibrate the same way - back and forth- and be indistinguishable from it's forward motion.  In other words, we measure time going forward (so many vibrations) regardless the way the flow of time travels.  So we can never move backwards in time.  Ever.

Dreams are imagination dank, they are not real.

Yo dawg, I herd you like time.

I'm guessing that the usages of time refer to two different notions? It's all starting to get a little Inception to me.

Time does not move.  Time does not exist.  We perceive it to exist because we measure changes in revolutions around our sun or another cyclic pattern.  Time is a measurement of change, we can perceive it's presence, but it is not a thing.  Like you said, humans invented time as a way of perception.

So time cannot move backwards, for it cannot move forwards either.  You can only exist in the present moment.  Though this does not mean you can not visit a dimension exactly the same as the past.

If you perceive it, it is real, otherwise, how did you perceive it?

So we are arguing the same thing - time travel is not possible.

Lol, time travel isn't possible. Sure it's theoretically possible, but not actually possible.

No, you are misinterpreting my words.  You can only exist in the present moment though you can manifest anything in that moment.  Thoughts, dreams, or even reality can shift completely to a moment in the past.

We live in an infinite universe with infinite dimensions.  Everything that has ever happened and everything that will happen is all happening right now, everywhere.  It's up to you to tune your mind to experience these other dimensions.

Well, time to (re)post my favorite time travel comic:

https://i.imgur.com/ODvBece.jpg

Why rent, when you could pre-order.

There was a documentary I was watching about this scientist who mathematically proved that his time machine would work. The only flaw with it is that if we turned it on now, we could only send stuff back to when it was turned on (as a maximum limit) , which is good enough I guess, because you could probably send future mining tech back in time. But then that'll alter that dimension and yeah...

Simple terms, get a delorean, and fill it up using Mr Fusion.

D'oh.  I posted the bold part in a hurry - obviously it is a circular reference.

"Humans invented time by taking a number of vibrations from a certain atom and calling that one second." would have been a better thing to say.   ;)

"WHAT DO WE WANT!!"

"A TIME MACHINE!!"

"WHEN DO WE WANT IT?"

"DOESN'T REALLY MATTER..."

I'd go back to 2009 and mine for a week with my 4 Block Erupters. :D

Chances are the creator would have noticed the >50% usage on one node, realized it was a flawed concept, and discontinued development.   :-\

The fact that it grew slowly, under the radar, is paramount to why it succeeded. 

I believe it to be the latter, but either way the premise of the offer seems utterly ridiculous. He essentially planned on giving it all away upon finding it. I would be highly surprised if anybody took him up on the offer, but then again, there are more than enough idiots around to take the bait.

Haha yeah, that makes much more sense :P I do enjoy a good circular reference; hoop, ring, roundabout being among my favourites ;)

well if I were able to rent it, I'll never return it and I can be anything I want ;D

Causality loops are inherently unstable. It might be possible to reach a self-sustaining state, but odds are it will eventually come to rest into a state where time-travel never happened, because that is the stablest of them all.

You may be right. Satoshi was after all concerned about Wikileaks accepting Bitcoin.

Oh well, I could still have earned a ton of money in 2011. There were miners with 5 GH/s rigs back then. 1.3 GH/s wouldn't have been too out of place back then.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xow5oO_MtE4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nDTBN_cPs0

Now that i'm thinking a bit more about it, it's pretty much indistinguishable from traveling into the past of a parallel reality; except that your presence there pretty much guarantee's that your double will never do that time travel.




The only time travel that won't screw with paradoxes (other than going to the future), is to travel faster than light; that way you can look back from the destination and see you leaving at the origin, but your arrival is still in the future of the origin.

Please go on... I love this...
I've been digging in this matter deeply for 6 months some while ago... had to let it go a couple of months ago... I spent too much time on it... but now you make me feel like taking it back up.  :)

wow you guys really did research about time traveling  :o a lot of information

Time travelling sure would've made life so much easier

If anyone wants a way to conceptualize this, imagine your mind as an antenna.  It receives different frequencies of energy that formulate your reality, such as light waves and sound waves.  You are capable of altering the frequency you tune your reality to, thus capable of sensing information from alternate dimensions that you would not normally be aware of.  If your mind is opened to all frequencies of the universe at once, you'll experience a state of white energy/light, as people have recalled during near death experiences.  Just as the color white is created by the presence of all colors.  This state of awareness may also be experiences consciously through meditation and is referred to egodeath.

The more you believe you can control your mind, the better you will be able to channel through different dimensions.  At the rate humans are exponentially evolving, there will come a day when physical time travel will become beyond the realm of imagination and into the realm of possibility.

Albert Einstein

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It's the substance of the words that counts, not the title behind them.

I'm not sure what Dank's currently taking, but I want some for sure. Anybody else notice the elegantly written post?

Eh, I noticed a grammatical mistake.  Too bad I can't edit.

PS, not taking anything.  My days of experiencing some of these alternate dimensions are long in the past.

If you want to see for yourself though, psychedelics are the key to the Akashic records (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akashic_records).  Meditation is really the key, though psychedelics catalyze the process by an order of magnitudes.

Time travelling is impossible.

You know I thought that too.

I was with some friends at my raleigh house back in summer of 2012, and they started time travelling.  I didn't understand it so I couldn't latch onto the vibe/belief.  Though later through my journeys I have realized, they believed it to be happening so in their reality, they were really able to visit other locations in history.  Call it pretending or imagining if you'd like, but if they believed it to be happening, then it was true to them.  Sure, the physical environment may have not changed, though by believing they were in one location rather than another, it became true.  Just as time is an illusion perceived by measuring cyclic amounts of change, space is an illusion of constantly changing light waves that create our surroundings in perspective to where we believe to be.  Everything you see is the same quantum/conscious energy as you, you are everywhere, so while space does exist if you believe it to be real, it is also an illusion if you understand how we are a single point of conscious energy experiencing self from an inverted angle.

So with the ability of time travelling comes the ability to teleport through space (which I guess is sort of the same).

While no one may be physically time travelling or teleporting at the moment, it is within the reach of possibility once humans can attune their beliefs that it can be done.  This would naturally occur after singularity which is an event of exponentially rapid evolution of the human mind that will take place one day or another.

You are talking about remote viewing and postcognition. There is no travel involved, at least in the usual sense.

It's pretty much just TV with ESP.

Minus the altering your mind part, Dank is actually rather close to a few existing theories of time travel. It is true, time really doesn't exist. Its just the progression of events measured in an evenly divisible amount of smaller "time" units based on the sun/light in general.

Personally, I believe time travel to be possible, however it is rather useless. It almost always requires moving faster than the speed of light which I believe will be possible in the future. However, all you would be able to do is alter your own perception. Light may be hitting your eyes from 30 minutes in the past, however people are still going to continue progressing as normal.

You really think we'll ever have a vessel that can reach those speeds and safely? All you would be doing is going really really fast, not actually going into the future. You're right that 'time' doesn't exist though.

between time travelling and mind reading, if you can only choose one, which one would you choose :-? I'll take mind reading

me too because its really amazing I read one book about this its need some time and exercise but its possible and any one can try this ???

You don't need a time travel, you can buy now and wait few years and sell...

But people are too/ lazy/greedy and don't want to wait - they want their money now! So maybe they need a time machine so they can go into the future and collect the return on their investments.

Better go back to 2009 then you would be Billionare.

I would go back and invest all of my money in BTC.

We do have a time machine, its called learning from the past. Right? lolol.

its very silly all now want to back and want to become billionaire but no one going to plan for become future billionaire is this workable or no because going in past is not workable right now

Why do you all want to be billionaires?

Money doesn't buy happiness.

Either do education :P

so you think.

a  lot of the early birds sold a lot of their bitcoin before it ever peaked to $1k. 

you would have probably sold your coins in the peak back in April and then live in regret again.

besides, if i had a time machine i would go back and enter every winning lottery ticket and invest in public companies way before they reach the marketshare they have now. i'd also leverage politics and rearrange the board.  much more than buying bit coins.

all other alt currencies are just hype and for the desperate to strike it rich.

Depends if we assume that we have knowledge of the peak in November. But having said this, what does the future behold? Maybe November will prove to be just a blip come a few years time.

I beginning to think that time travel has nothing to do with speed.

Well, it buys you freedom, and enables you to gain more happiness. Your health, family, and friends are more important imo... but other than that money can take care of the rest.


I wouldn't mind getting a fortune teller as well.... then I would invest all my savings in the crypto that will explode in the next few years

An illusion of freedom perhaps.

Hopefully people will feel the same way in years to come - "I wish I had a time machine to go back to when Bitcoin was worth less than $1000, I'd have bought loads!"

that's so wrong

don't go back in time to buy bitcoins,
go back in time to win the lottery and then use all the money to buy bitcoins :D

Haven't you ever heard of the theory that

1) Everything that CAN happen DOES happen

and

2) It is all happening at this moment, all at the same time!

I CAN *uck your mom

does that mean that's going to happen? :)

The Many Worlds interpretation, sure.

does anyone know anything about that supposedly working time machine created by steve gibbs?

Now I really need a time machine, anyone let me borrow it ;D

Put a ASIC miner in 2009.  The dev team notices and decides there must be some kind of crazy mining machine hashing away and lose interest as they are unable to mine anything themselves.   The decide someone has figured out how to reverse sha256 and they go with script and rename it litecoin. :)

Lol, well I'm afraid that it's not possible, but I guess you can still be a millionaire if you work hard enough or if you get lucky and win the lottery or any gambling activity. ;D I'm actually a newbie regarding bitcoins, and now I'm getting interested in learning how to acquire it because of the high exchange rate.

I would kill the "younger me" so i can live in the past...

"Looper" is a good movie about time traveling

You don't need a time machine! Invest $1,000 now and you could be a millionaire by next year! You fools, this is still the tip of the iceberg!

What if you could go back to 2010, buy loads of BTCs but then spent all of them to buy a pizza? :D

If you have the beauty of a wish, why would you only rent the time machine?

that would be funny if one day time travel became so popular they had time machine rental services like what they do with cars

The world would crash

someone would go back in time and stop that from happening because everyone would go back in time making everything that can happen that it will happen so if some day someone makes a time machine he could stop me from writing this  and in the same time making me write this  ???

If you had the wish why even wish up the time machine, wish up the bloody Bitcoins and fortunes haha.

Time machines already exist why you think the bitcoin is so high now.. Hello tommorow people!

Things are going on now (businesswise), no need to rent a time machine.

it is very important what we can do today. hope following years others will admire us.

errr.. I found this really confusing  :D :D :D

Haha, the old time machine paradox!

For traveling in back 2011 you need to buy an premium class ticket with our airlines, the Bitcoin Airlines.
I think this was a good promoting message for a new bussines.

Sorry for the joke

I will rent you a time machine but it would get you to year 1900.

Hah yeah :P

If you want to make money with a time machine quicker than with Bitcoin, I'd just go back in time and put it all on Leeds Utd getting further than any other team in the Champions League. Gotta be a good price :)

Bloody hell, now that IS going back in time. I don't think that such a device would be able to make it THAT far back ;)

Haha, true that! Maybe we could go back to when I was first told about Bitcoin then and I'd buy into it a that point   ::)

I'd go back further, not long after the Genesis Block and mine me some nuggets on a Casio calculator watch.

+1, btc would be the last of my worries hahahah. Why go through all the trouble of exchanges and such. JUST WIN A FEW LOTTERIES lol

Lol, very good point!

A few Bitcoin lotteries? I'd rather have the Bitcoins than cash and watch the money grow and just cash out as and when need be.

guess youll have to settle for getting high and watching Back to the Future

If you had a time machine there are millions of ways to be a millionaire not just BTC. Starting from carrying few tons of black pepper,Spices and selling it for it's weight in gold and travelling to hundreds of years ago and buying few oil lands (before they were discovered) or even buying stocks at any super profitable company now when it was just starting. You just need the time machine now  8)

There are far better returns than going back and buying Bitcoin.

But yeah, if only time machines existed.  I'm hoping future me comes and gets me any day now.

How about all those stories that men fucked with time and screwed the whole history - butterfly and all that?

I think everyone wishes they could rent a time machine I know I do.

ps anyone know where I can buy a flux capacitor lol

I don't think I would use it in that way. Yeah money is important and all but still I regret more about other stuff I can't change.

If time travelling works like we all think it would, then I would like to have access to timemachine. Time unfornately is far more complicated that we think... I don't know what effect it could have on universe... Changes could be catastrophic, so for the greater good - thanks but no thanks for time machine. Go watch movie like Butterfly Effect you will se what I mean.

So do I, I'd invest all my money in mining equipment. :D And change my big poker hands that I lost.

Travel back in time, use a pseudonym and pretend to invent bitcoin, hang around on the message boards to make sure the idea catches on, then return to the future and cash out the first million bitcoins that were ever mined.

Perhaps the question should be, "When is Satashi Nakamoto?"

Seeing this thread inspired me to watch back to the future today
good movie.

Be careful what you wish for, for it's not outside the realm of possibility of somebody coming along after starting a new account on this here forum, get double or triple vetted, then two short weeks later offer up a group-buy program that promises to make your wish come true by X date, with a BPP and guaranteed refunds up to the eleventh hour thrown in to boot.

If I had a time machine, I'd go back to 2009 and exchange $1,000 for 1.3 million BTC using NewLibertyStandard.

http://newlibertystandard.wikifoundry.com/page/2009+Exchange+Rate

no, if you rent it you might get stuck somewhere but if you buy it it's always yours :D

altough you can just go back in time and get more time with your time machine xD

I would use your time machine to go back to the 1600's. I would slay dragons and have my with fair maidens, maybe the odd wench too.

if you don't have your fair with maidens here what makes you think you would have it there? :D

certainly :-) 2 years back and i am sneaking over forum gee... who wanna sells bitcoins this daddy you kiddies :D need ice cream oh yeah

Has it happens I have one for sale, you can buy it for just 10BTC. I will for one time offer also throw in a Mr. Fusion which will supply 1.21 jigawatts to power the flux capacitor.

If you have time machine you can just record all lotto results and go back 5 years ago and win lotto everyday.  :)

If I had a time machine I would go much farther than that. I'll go back to win I was a kid, and relive my whole life without worry, knowing that in the future there's going to be Bitcoin and I'm going to mine it from the minute it went live.

It's not everything, but it truly makes every aspect of your life easier. I'm not talking about your materialistic person that's going to spend it all on expensive luxury items, but for a regular person. It can mean a much better family life where you won't have to worry about problems that leads to another.

to rent time machine you need about 100 BTC.. :)
your plan collapses in the very beginning...  >:(

Money doesn't buy hapiness but it is more pleasant to cry in Rolls-Royce than in old Corsa :D.
Seriously as you said it is just for beeing not worried about future, life, familly, food. I would not buy huge yacht, or villa house.
So where is this time machine? :D

Money do buy happiness, at least I dont need to go to work everyday..

perhaps but if you were a billionaire you wouldn't have to worry about doing good at school or finding a job, you wouldn't have to worry how will you take care of your family because you give them everything they deserve :)

I dont know abot you.... but im very happy when i get my paycheck....

Yeah you never see anyone crying when they're sippin mojitos on their private plane going to las vegas/amsterdam lol.

in 2020, we see new thread. "i wish i had time machine to travel to 2014, the final year that a full bitcoin could be purchased by average investors"

OP buys 5 bitcoin now, in a few years he could be multi millionaire, i think possible!

Each time you use the time machine, the world might not be the same and btc might crash to 0.00.

I think I would go to that age but if I had to live through it all again then 2008 onwards (Short the financial crash) (Then buy a Lot of Bitcoin) :)

not if you write down all sports results that happened that day including the lotto numbers and go only 1 day back!

The rate has been fixed at BTC 10. Seems to be fair.  ;D

It's easy to make a time machine all you have to have is a delorean,a flux capacitor and plutonium and that stuff is totally easy to get right?

Of course, don't forget the blueprints. You have to find some or design it yourself. Can take a couple years, maybe a couple hundred...

Or give your younger self an almanac with all major sports results for the next half century.  :D

http://www.bttfstore.com/bttf2_almanac_biffs_garage.jpg

I wouldn't mind renting a time machine...

I wouldn't spend those coins I bought for £4 back in 2012... I would have over 9x profit :P

Liam

so you would profit only 32£? :D
wouldn't it be better to tell yourself to buy more coins instead of just no spending the small amount you had  :-\

Oh, wait, my maths was wrong... I meant over 90x ;)

I would tell myself to buy more, but I didn't have the money to buy more... I was only 14 back then :P

Liam

well it's still not too much, only 360£, if you had no money I guess it wouldn't be a crime to take someones money, buy bitcoins with it and return him 10x the investment later on :D

£360 would be a lot to me, being 16 and all :P

Noone would lend me money back then. They would all think I was crazy...

Hmm.

Liam

who said anything about lending? :D

you don't catch my drift, 360£ is a nice amount of money but if you know you would get 90x investment back, you're missing a hell of a chance by investing only 4£ ;)

I wouldn't steal any money either :P

it's not stealing if you give them 10x back :D
you can also sell your stuff ;)

Yeah why steal when you can just take some cash with you, go back to 2009 and invest in BTC.

because the money you bring with you might not be printed yet in 2009, get yourself arrested, go back to future, you're in jail
fuck :D

Nice point there ;)

Time travel is impossible!

Liam

this is just a what would be if it could be thread :D

it's interesting if it could happen but most of us probably think it is not possible..

altough Einstein got some information on how to make time go faster so traveling to future might be possible but going back in time?
hell no :D

Possible, just severely complicated,

not mentioning if the money is printed in 2009 then there will be double of the same bills which could get you arrested too :D

so, bringing money to past is like printing money now :D

Guess you'd have to earn money then.

Maybe Mark Karpeles can create a time Machine his IQ is 190 while Einsten's IQ is only 160.

he would of fixed this shannanigan if he could :D

his IQ isn't really 190, it's just a compliment he got from his boss :D

we bitcointalkers believe too much shit :D