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Title: What pool do you use?
Post by: legolouman on September 04, 2011, 03:10:50 AM
I've been mining on Slush's pool lately, but I'm beginning to feel I'm being cheated, as my payouts are drastically lower than I estimate. I'm just curious as to which pools you use, and how they have been working out for you.


Title: Re: What pool do you use?
Post by: abracadabra on September 04, 2011, 03:18:25 AM
I've been mining on rfcpool

Well run pool, nicely organized web site, coders always hang in their irc channel.

Very happy with the payout system. It's PPLNS.


Title: Re: What pool do you use?
Post by: legolouman on September 04, 2011, 03:30:05 AM
I've been mining on rfcpool

Well run pool, nicely organized web site, coders always hang in their irc channel.

Very happy with the payout system. It's PPLNS.


The PPLNS payout system seems really neat. If I get entirely fed up with slush, I'll give it a try.


Title: Re: What pool do you use?
Post by: Jack of Diamonds on September 04, 2011, 03:43:28 AM
Eligius, abcpool.co, deepbit (backup), btcpool24, arsbitcoin. Usually evenly dividing up the hashing power between them in 3-5 ghash clusters.
If there's new PPS pools I try those out for a few weeks. I'll consider rfcpool because they have PPLNS now.

I will try anything new that has pure PPS or PPLNS.


Title: Re: What pool do you use?
Post by: wtfman on September 04, 2011, 06:47:54 AM
You don't get cheated. Prob is you (and strangely many others) put yourself in a disadvantage with Proportional Rewards.

Join a PPS or PPLNS pool and you do not have those problems.


Title: Re: What pool do you use?
Post by: Oldminer on September 04, 2011, 06:52:38 AM
BTC Guild and Bitcoins.lc are good.


Title: Re: What pool do you use?
Post by: titbb on September 04, 2011, 09:18:26 AM
I moved to http://www.rfcpool.com lately, must say i quite like it there!

Im a statwhore, and would like to see how my GHashies are put to work.
Their stats own everyother pool out there, and i've seen some!

I was doing PPS before, but i cant see that being sustainable over the long run, so i switched over to PPLNS, which RFC reverted too.
Must say, after a few shorties, we are having a little bit of a bigger one, which can only mean it will get so much better after that!

@46-55GH now, so we could use some more extra hashies!


Title: Re: What pool do you use?
Post by: AnnihilaT on September 04, 2011, 09:28:52 AM
<shameless_plug>

 I use Mainframe, of course (and you should too)! :)  Here is a few reasons why:

 1) https://bitcoin.org.uk/forums/topic/108-is-your-pool-cheating-you-essential-self-defence-course-for-bitcoin-miners-part-1/

 2) https://bitcoin.org.uk/forums/topic/118-is-your-pool-cheating-you-essential-self-defence-course-for-bitcoin-miners-part-2/

 3) https://bitcoin.org.uk/forums/topic/176-which-bitcoin-mining-pools-attract-smart-miners/

</shameless_plug>


Title: Re: What pool do you use?
Post by: zerokwel on September 04, 2011, 09:35:16 AM
I use BTC Guild.

Never had any issues and Eleuthria he is always on IRC. And his new poolsetup for me is fantastic 30ms ping times.

oh I use CGminer



Title: Re: What pool do you use?
Post by: zerokwel on September 04, 2011, 09:46:16 AM
BTC Guild and Bitcoins.lc are good.

Have you read vladimir's "miner survival guide" ?
He has a rather decent analysis of whether a pool is cheating its miners or not.
btcguild does not seem to come out in a very good light

yep....

Still staying with BTCG.

(Because everything that's posted on the internet is 100% accurate)


Title: Re: What pool do you use?
Post by: jkminkov on September 04, 2011, 10:53:14 AM
I've been mining on Slush's pool lately, but I'm beginning to feel I'm being cheated, as my payouts are drastically lower than I estimate. I'm just curious as to which pools you use, and how they have been working out for you.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=7760.msg501630#msg501630

anything but pure proportional will twist your own luck beyond all recognition, if you want a predictable payout, then trade your luck for zero variance and use something *PPS with a low fee and/or low rejected shares


Title: Re: What pool do you use?
Post by: legolouman on September 04, 2011, 06:28:04 PM
I've been mining on Slush's pool lately, but I'm beginning to feel I'm being cheated, as my payouts are drastically lower than I estimate. I'm just curious as to which pools you use, and how they have been working out for you.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=7760.msg501630#msg501630

anything but pure proportional will twist your own luck beyond all recognition, if you want a predictable payout, then trade your luck for zero variance and use something *PPS with a low fee and/or low rejected shares

Now that I've started testing Deepbit, I've noticed that my stales are ridiculously low, as in .22% compared to the 2% at slush. As for payouts, I've only been running it for a night, so it's too early, but I will be going to rfc if I become unhappy. I don't have the hashing power to effectively go to proportional mining. Unless I'm wrong about that though, I just thought that proportional was more for large mining operations.


Title: Re: What pool do you use?
Post by: titbb on September 04, 2011, 06:49:07 PM
I think im even more spoiled @ RFCpool.com

Last round i got 0.002% stales for a pretty long block.
If your miners are in order, your stales should be even lower there.


Title: Re: What pool do you use?
Post by: wknight on September 04, 2011, 11:02:29 PM
I myself have moved from Slush to rfcpool.com. I had so many issues with Slush's pool i felt I was being cheated. But that could be my server talking to their server.

I am very happy with rfcpool. Specially since I have gotten so much help in the irc channel. Great people.

As far as trust it means a lot. There website makes things very transparent. So you know your getting what you should be getting. Not stolen hashes or such. Very up to date.


Title: Re: What pool do you use?
Post by: legolouman on September 05, 2011, 12:00:45 AM
Looks like RFC seems to be the way to go right now. I guess I'll start playing with it after I cash out of Deepbit


Title: Re: What pool do you use?
Post by: legolouman on September 05, 2011, 02:30:06 AM
UPDATE!!!!1!1!!1one!

I've move to rfcpool and I like love it! In a mere 300 shares, I already have about .009 BTC, which is significantly higher than the other PPS pools I've used. Not to mention 0% stales (so far). The UI is also very nice.


+1 to all of you that recommended RFCpool

PS- The excessive "!"'s and etc were a little much, but I really like the pool. Thanks for the suggestions. Thread is still open for discussion though.


Title: Re: What pool do you use?
Post by: wknight on September 05, 2011, 05:16:42 PM
Great to have you join. I have tried other pools and had connection issues and poor results. So far this has been very well done.



Title: Re: What pool do you use?
Post by: legolouman on September 05, 2011, 05:25:05 PM
Great to have you join. I have tried other pools and had connection issues and poor results. So far this has been very well done.



Well in the last block, I made about 1.5 times my estimated amount, that's also after my donation. I also can't knock that in ~4000 shares, I've gotten 0 stales.


Title: Re: What pool do you use?
Post by: skEwb on September 06, 2011, 07:15:46 AM
http://hashrate.tk we have 150slc bounty to the first person to bring us 10Gh/s and our stales are super low. All we ask is that people try it :)


Title: Re: What pool do you use?
Post by: legolouman on September 06, 2011, 02:30:08 PM
http://hashrate.tk we have 150slc bounty to the first person to bring us 10Gh/s and our stales are super low. All we ask is that people try it :)

Normally I'd be all for that, but RFCpool has me hooked. I won't go into specifics though.

The 150SLC is a darn good deal, but I have a mere <200 m/hash and would barely dent the Hash rate. I'll take a look into it if I can put together a bit of a better rig.


Title: Re: What pool do you use?
Post by: abracadabra on September 06, 2011, 05:51:23 PM
150SLC?  Isn't SLC worthless now?


Title: Re: What pool do you use?
Post by: legolouman on September 06, 2011, 06:08:16 PM
150SLC?  Isn't SLC worthless now?

Well 150 is quite a bit. I'd look into it, but right now I am improving the community's confidence in the BTC markets.


Title: Re: What pool do you use?
Post by: c_k on September 11, 2011, 08:42:36 AM
Quote
What pool do you use?

rfcpool of course! :D


Title: Re: What pool do you use?
Post by: DeaDTerra on September 11, 2011, 12:41:00 PM
Currently using bitcoin.lc and bitminter.com, both are pretty awesome pools and i especially like bitminter with their own miner as well as the statistic interface :)


Title: Re: What pool do you use?
Post by: AnnihilaT on September 11, 2011, 02:01:54 PM
Currently using bitcoin.lc and bitminter.com, both are pretty awesome pools and i especially like bitminter with their own miner as well as the statistic interface :)

Mmmh.

That basically means that if the pool decides to cheat
you, you now have absolutely no way of knowing (since
they also control the client). Fishy.



Yeah be careful here...


Title: Re: What pool do you use?
Post by: DeaDTerra on September 11, 2011, 02:56:58 PM
Currently using bitcoin.lc and bitminter.com, both are pretty awesome pools and i especially like bitminter with their own miner as well as the statistic interface :)

Mmmh.

That basically means that if the pool decides to cheat
you, you now have absolutely no way of knowing (since
they also control the client). Fishy.



Yeah be careful here...

Yea that is ofc true, the program is not open source so they might be doing fishy stuff but so far i have been happy with the amount i have been getting from their pool, ofc i would probably be unaware if they did remove a couple of shares here and there but i doubt they would do that


Title: Re: What pool do you use?
Post by: DeaDTerra on September 11, 2011, 07:22:52 PM
Currently using bitcoin.lc and bitminter.com, both are pretty awesome pools and i especially like bitminter with their own miner as well as the statistic interface :)

Mmmh.

That basically means that if the pool decides to cheat
you, you now have absolutely no way of knowing (since
they also control the client). Fishy.



Yeah be careful here...

Yea that is ofc true, the program is not open source so they might be doing fishy stuff but so far i have been happy with the amount i have been getting from their pool, ofc i would probably be unaware if they did remove a couple of shares here and there but i doubt they would do that

Client is not even open source ???
Boy, you are one trusting fellow.


Yea i guess i am xD


Title: Re: What pool do you use?
Post by: dub0matic on September 11, 2011, 07:27:03 PM
https://arsbitcoin.com/index.php (https://arsbitcoin.com/index.php) is always a winner


Title: Re: What pool do you use?
Post by: abracadabra on September 11, 2011, 08:01:28 PM
https://arsbitcoin.com/index.php (https://arsbitcoin.com/index.php) is always a winner

I'm not a fan of SMPPS


Title: Re: What pool do you use?
Post by: Coinbuck @ BTCLot on September 11, 2011, 08:12:15 PM
I used to mine but I had to stop because I didn't had time to clean the hardware etc.

Now I'm back mining SolidCoins at Coinotron but just for fun.


Title: Re: What pool do you use?
Post by: conspirosphere.tk on September 13, 2011, 06:50:00 PM
I just switched to bitminter too. Their miner is beyond awesome in terms of performance and stability. I can even watch video and tv while mining with it.
And with my current knowledge, any pool could steal some shares to me (and I expect that some do). But stealing big time to the miners would be a self-defeating move, so I don't think that any pool that want to survive would do it.



Currently using bitcoin.lc and bitminter.com, both are pretty awesome pools and i especially like bitminter with their own miner as well as the statistic interface :)

Mmmh.

That basically means that if the pool decides to cheat
you, you now have absolutely no way of knowing (since
they also control the client). Fishy.



Yeah be careful here...

Yea that is ofc true, the program is not open source so they might be doing fishy stuff but so far i have been happy with the amount i have been getting from their pool, ofc i would probably be unaware if they did remove a couple of shares here and there but i doubt they would do that


Title: Re: What pool do you use?
Post by: madnod on September 14, 2011, 07:35:31 PM
used slush then recently moved to RFC, i like RFC more than slush and i am having larger payouts (not sure if it's the difficulty drop) any way RFC site is much better.


Title: Re: What pool do you use?
Post by: kwaaak on September 15, 2011, 06:19:08 AM
Eligius


Title: Re: What pool do you use?
Post by: xzion on September 15, 2011, 11:39:43 AM
ozco.in, most efficient backend for sure. and the best people.

abcpool for backup, great pps pool.


Title: Re: What pool do you use?
Post by: n4l3hp on September 16, 2011, 01:59:43 PM
EclipseMC   :)


Title: Re: What pool do you use?
Post by: wknight on September 21, 2011, 12:05:45 AM
many pools to choose from.. go where your happy.. it takes time but once you find it.. your golden


Title: Re: What pool do you use?
Post by: Graet on September 21, 2011, 03:40:00 AM
ozco.in, most efficient backend for sure. and the best people.


agreed, ozco.in is nice


cgminer + ozco.in = awesome



Title: Re: What pool do you use?
Post by: simplecoin on September 21, 2011, 05:28:31 AM
I mine on simplecoin.us

Then again I run it (and programmed the simplecoin interface). The entire pool is open source (not just based on open-source), the bitcoin transaction log is viewable (no cheating possible), and 0% fees.

The new beta front-end allow you to choose your pool & payout method. Currently PPLNS and Proportional pools are available, with SMPPS on the way.

Additionally I'll be adding support for other coins as requested.



Title: Re: What pool do you use?
Post by: DutchBrat on September 22, 2011, 09:57:03 PM
I am mining on nmcbit.com

Davinci's NameCoin pool. For now (and probably until merged mining is implemented in 147 blocks) he is letting his users choose if they want to get NameCoin or Bitcoin for there shares. He pays 0.00003 per share, about 20% more than deepbit or any other pool and he pays them out of his own pocket !!!

Check it out !

Brat

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=33612.0


Title: Re: What pool do you use?
Post by: SgtMoth on September 28, 2011, 09:55:33 PM
Currently using bitcoin.lc and bitminter.com, both are pretty awesome pools and i especially like bitminter with their own miner as well as the statistic interface :)

Mmmh.

That basically means that if the pool decides to cheat
you, you now have absolutely no way of knowing (since
they also control the client). Fishy.



Yeah be careful here...

Yea that is ofc true, the program is not open source so they might be doing fishy stuff but so far i have been happy with the amount i have been getting from their pool, ofc i would probably be unaware if they did remove a couple of shares here and there but i doubt they would do that

Client is not even open source ???
Boy, you are one trusting fellow.





i use bitminter too, just about from the beginning ive been very happy with the pay, very comparable to btc guild payouts....except on unlucky blocks.  but overall a nice small pool


Title: Re: What pool do you use?
Post by: dub0matic on October 08, 2011, 05:42:12 AM
fuck all of them except ARS