Title: where do i get a mtgox-bot ? Post by: saqwe on September 05, 2011, 09:55:05 PM the title says everything ;)
Title: Re: where do i get a mtgox-bot ? Post by: markabark on September 05, 2011, 09:56:39 PM You write one in your favorite language. Mtgox has an api description and some sample code.
Title: Re: where do i get a mtgox-bot ? Post by: aandreas on September 05, 2011, 10:54:45 PM or u can buy mine. license for 6 months sells for 10 BTC
Title: Re: where do i get a mtgox-bot ? Post by: teflone on September 06, 2011, 02:44:14 AM or u can buy mine. license for 6 months sells for 10 BTC ppfftttt... Title: Re: where do i get a mtgox-bot ? Post by: saqwe on September 06, 2011, 09:31:29 AM mmmh
maybe i can rent one somewhere for 1 btc which uses markov-chains? Title: Re: where do i get a mtgox-bot ? Post by: markabark on September 08, 2011, 01:55:19 AM You write one in your favorite language. Mtgox has an api description and some sample code. mark's right... any bot you can buy probably isn't worth buying. Right, if you had a bot that made you money, why would you sell it to others? You wouldn't, you'd keep it for yourself and get rich. Title: Re: where do i get a mtgox-bot ? Post by: bitcoinTrader on September 08, 2011, 10:02:09 AM Not always.
Normally, if you dont have much money in exchanges, the bots wont be much useful. Title: Re: where do i get a mtgox-bot ? Post by: Wintermute on September 08, 2011, 08:03:09 PM we {IBB} will be selling arbitrage software soon price would be from around 10 BTC to 30 BTC If the software works then why do you sell it? Title: Re: where do i get a mtgox-bot ? Post by: aandreas on September 08, 2011, 09:48:24 PM we {IBB} will be selling arbitrage software soon price would be from around 10 BTC to 30 BTC pfft. to quote ur ” prmanager” on topic: still selling bot, atm, i'm out of BTC Title: Re: where do i get a mtgox-bot ? Post by: evolve on September 08, 2011, 09:51:09 PM https://dnnbitcoin.aricie.com/
free and open source....site looks to be down atm, but thats where i got mine. Title: Re: where do i get a mtgox-bot ? Post by: proudhon on September 08, 2011, 09:56:28 PM https://dnnbitcoin.aricie.com/ free and open source....site looks to be down atm, but thats where i got mine. And how have you done with it? Title: Re: where do i get a mtgox-bot ? Post by: evolve on September 08, 2011, 11:33:13 PM really well considering the market. started with 16 BTC and im now up to 19.30954586 BTC (with like 2.49 in usd). current btc value still puts me above my total "investment" of $120, so im happy.
Title: Re: where do i get a mtgox-bot ? Post by: saqwe on September 09, 2011, 03:53:37 PM it looks a bit complicated, did you adjust any settings...
does it run directly off site? or do you have to download it or anything? cheers saqwe Title: Re: where do i get a mtgox-bot ? Post by: evolve on September 11, 2011, 08:58:35 AM nope left it as linear trading. the site hosts your bot (but you can host it yourself if you choose)
Title: Re: where do i get a mtgox-bot ? Post by: Aricie on September 13, 2011, 01:32:57 PM Hi,
Here is some feedback about the platform after our initial period of beta testing (started late july (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=32484.0)). First about who we are and where we're going:
Unfortunately, I had to postpone any updates til now, so we dealt all along with that early version, which currently has several problems to be fixed. Anyway, it has provided experiences of many kinds, which I'm happy to share here. Here are issues we faced since late july (that was with btc price falling until now): On a technical side:
Basically the site would not work reliably at all during the whole time, which of course didn't help with getting the bots doing the right job timely. Now the financial side taught lessons too: The pricer works in a trading band, it plots orders linearly in value between the given extreme orders at each side of the band, and the central orders around the last price, accounting for the transaction fees and valued as a percentage of the extreme orders. Now the distribution of orders also is an important parameter, and I chose to halve the distance from the closest order to a limit defined by the ticker and the fees as a mean to define new orders. Overall it results in a non predictive market-making kind of strategy, buying increasingly on down trends, selling increasingly on up trends, and slowly leveling btcs/usds levels on stable periods. I think the general idea was OK, but it has some obvious problems too:
Finally, here is an Excel extract (with French numbering) from an Mt Gox account which was attended from end August to account for the trading band issue described above. Date FixedPrice Price btcs btcs value usds Total TotalFixedPrice Fixed btc Fixed $ Total btc Fri 08 Jul 2011 09:21:25 PM GMT $5,63597 $14,26474 9,63918 $137,50 $4 292,36 $4 429,86 $4 346,68 $4 429,20 $4 429,86 310,54605 Sat 09 Jul 2011 04:41:51 AM GMT $5,63597 $14,23338 7,96158 $113,32 $4 316,28 $4 429,60 $4 361,15 $4 419,46 $4 429,86 311,21182 Sat 09 Jul 2011 07:31:55 AM GMT $5,63597 $14,26037 6,88541 $98,19 $4 331,65 $4 429,83 $4 370,45 $4 427,84 $4 429,86 310,63949 Sat 09 Jul 2011 09:04:42 AM GMT $5,63597 $14,18257 8,29591 $117,66 $4 311,60 $4 429,26 $4 358,36 $4 403,69 $4 429,86 312,30318 Sat 09 Jul 2011 07:52:01 PM GMT $5,63597 $14,42982 4,97490 $71,79 $4 359,08 $4 430,86 $4 387,11 $4 480,46 $4 429,86 307,06294 Sun 10 Jul 2011 07:15:53 PM GMT $5,63597 $15,04696 5,44503 $81,93 $4 350,90 $4 432,83 $4 381,58 $4 672,08 $4 429,86 294,59953 Mon 11 Jul 2011 08:51:54 AM GMT $5,63597 $14,96470 6,65819 $99,64 $4 332,92 $4 432,55 $4 370,44 $4 646,54 $4 429,86 296,20067 Mon 11 Jul 2011 12:28:29 PM GMT $5,63597 $14,91241 5,23260 $78,03 $4 354,35 $4 432,38 $4 383,84 $4 630,30 $4 429,86 297,22768 Mon 11 Jul 2011 02:26:50 PM GMT $5,63597 $13,97904 9,21048 $128,75 $4 296,29 $4 425,04 $4 348,20 $4 340,49 $4 429,86 316,54821 Mon 11 Jul 2011 03:24:40 PM GMT $5,63597 $14,27320 8,36217 $119,35 $4 308,33 $4 427,69 $4 355,46 $4 431,83 $4 429,86 310,20988 Mon 11 Jul 2011 04:34:24 PM GMT $5,63597 $14,21820 7,90234 $112,36 $4 314,71 $4 427,07 $4 359,25 $4 414,75 $4 429,86 311,36633 Tue 12 Jul 2011 02:54:59 PM GMT $5,63597 $13,95124 8,26546 $115,31 $4 309,65 $4 424,97 $4 356,24 $4 331,86 $4 429,86 317,17361 Wed 13 Jul 2011 10:25:12 AM GMT $5,63597 $14,06000 18,23546 $256,39 $4 169,06 $4 425,45 $4 271,84 $4 365,63 $4 429,86 314,75497 Thu 14 Jul 2011 12:09:06 AM GMT $5,63597 $13,98009 68,48748 $957,46 $3 461,61 $4 419,07 $3 847,60 $4 340,82 $4 429,86 316,09734 Thu 14 Jul 2011 06:30:49 PM GMT $5,63597 $13,87766 84,49957 $1 172,66 $3 239,30 $4 411,95 $3 715,53 $4 309,01 $4 429,86 317,91768 Fri 15 Jul 2011 11:08:50 AM GMT $5,63597 $14,00692 93,92795 $1 315,64 $3 107,71 $4 423,35 $3 637,08 $4 349,15 $4 429,86 315,79724 Fri 15 Jul 2011 09:53:40 PM GMT $5,63597 $13,79261 130,17504 $1 795,45 $2 606,24 $4 401,69 $3 339,90 $4 282,61 $4 429,86 319,13429 Sat 16 Jul 2011 11:08:17 AM GMT $5,63597 $13,78508 142,56421 $1 965,26 $2 437,01 $4 402,27 $3 240,50 $4 280,27 $4 429,86 319,35023 Sun 17 Jul 2011 07:42:33 AM GMT $5,63597 $13,40066 181,58074 $2 433,30 $1 907,66 $4 340,96 $2 931,05 $4 160,90 $4 429,86 323,93659 Sun 17 Jul 2011 01:50:35 PM GMT $5,63597 $13,27595 183,39558 $2 434,75 $1 883,38 $4 318,13 $2 917,00 $4 122,18 $4 429,86 325,25994 Sun 17 Jul 2011 06:51:51 PM GMT $5,63597 $13,29426 170,33082 $2 264,42 $2 056,67 $4 321,09 $3 016,65 $4 127,87 $4 429,86 325,03450 Sun 17 Jul 2011 09:45:53 PM GMT $5,63597 $13,34937 164,20130 $2 191,98 $2 138,11 $4 330,10 $3 063,55 $4 144,98 $4 429,86 324,36704 Mon 18 Jul 2011 06:55:06 AM GMT $5,63597 $13,10708 160,67890 $2 106,03 $2 184,89 $4 290,92 $3 090,47 $4 069,75 $4 429,86 327,37438 Mon 18 Jul 2011 01:28:21 PM GMT $5,63597 $13,03686 162,13379 $2 113,72 $2 165,87 $4 279,59 $3 079,66 $4 047,95 $4 429,86 328,26847 Mon 18 Jul 2011 10:51:59 PM GMT $5,63597 $13,47424 126,49718 $1 704,45 $2 645,42 $4 349,87 $3 358,35 $4 183,75 $4 429,86 322,82871 Tue 19 Jul 2011 01:59:52 AM GMT $5,63597 $13,84900 95,33973 $1 320,36 $3 081,97 $4 402,33 $3 619,30 $4 300,11 $4 429,86 317,88068 Wed 20 Jul 2011 01:43:40 AM GMT $5,63597 $13,77000 99,61441 $1 371,69 $3 023,33 $4 395,02 $3 584,75 $4 275,59 $4 429,86 319,17355 Thu 21 Jul 2011 03:44:14 PM GMT $5,63597 $13,60848 142,35682 $1 937,26 $2 444,04 $4 381,30 $3 246,36 $4 225,43 $4 429,86 321,95375 Thu 21 Jul 2011 07:52:54 PM GMT $5,63597 $13,50986 146,62829 $1 980,93 $2 386,26 $4 367,18 $3 212,65 $4 194,81 $4 429,86 323,25902 Fri 22 Jul 2011 07:07:03 AM GMT $5,63597 $13,67958 135,35421 $1 851,59 $2 540,37 $4 391,96 $3 303,23 $4 247,51 $4 429,86 321,05976 Sat 23 Jul 2011 11:27:37 PM GMT $5,63597 $13,65410 139,38223 $1 903,14 $2 485,98 $4 389,12 $3 271,54 $4 239,60 $4 429,86 321,45076 Mon 25 Jul 2011 08:25:46 AM GMT $5,63597 $14,28070 107,74583 $1 538,69 $2 927,88 $4 466,56 $3 535,13 $4 434,16 $4 429,86 312,76909 Mon 25 Jul 2011 10:46:00 PM GMT $5,63597 $14,00195 126,43315 $1 770,31 $2 664,10 $4 434,41 $3 376,67 $4 347,61 $4 429,86 316,69952 Tue 26 Jul 2011 10:41:50 AM GMT $5,63597 $14,01760 138,97174 $1 948,05 $2 489,33 $4 437,38 $3 272,57 $4 352,46 $4 429,86 316,55746 Thu 28 Jul 2011 11:14:36 AM GMT $5,63597 $13,61043 154,58973 $2 104,03 $2 275,27 $4 379,31 $3 146,54 $4 226,04 $4 429,86 321,76110 Thu 28 Jul 2011 09:50:05 PM GMT $5,63597 $13,40005 169,63393 $2 273,10 $2 070,80 $4 343,90 $3 026,85 $4 160,72 $4 429,86 324,17036 Tue 09 Aug 2011 12:29:24 PM GMT $5,63597 $11,89202 296,74755 $3 528,93 $847,91 $4 376,83 $2 520,37 $3 692,47 $4 429,86 368,04801 Mon 22 Aug 2011 06:06:26 AM GMT $5,63597 $11,19690 218,41435 $2 445,56 $1 726,71 $4 172,27 $2 957,69 $3 476,64 $4 429,86 372,62748 Tue 23 Aug 2011 06:42:55 PM GMT $5,63597 $10,93342 214,45385 $2 344,71 $1 771,30 $4 116,02 $2 979,96 $3 394,83 $4 429,86 376,46189 Thu 25 Aug 2011 07:42:02 AM GMT $5,63597 $10,59635 218,31705 $2 313,36 $1 729,45 $4 042,81 $2 959,88 $3 290,17 $4 429,86 381,52881 Thu 25 Aug 2011 02:21:40 PM GMT $5,63597 $10,05150 235,35915 $2 365,71 $1 555,20 $3 920,91 $2 881,68 $3 120,99 $4 429,86 390,08253 Thu 25 Aug 2011 08:33:19 PM GMT $5,63597 $9,80000 226,95467 $2 224,16 $1 634,56 $3 858,71 $2 913,67 $3 042,90 $4 429,86 393,74630 Sun 28 Aug 2011 04:30:10 PM GMT $5,63597 $9,13762 235,23474 $2 149,49 $1 506,51 $3 655,99 $2 832,28 $2 837,23 $4 429,86 400,10330 Tue 30 Aug 2011 10:17:17 PM GMT $5,63597 $8,77355 241,11609 $2 115,44 $1 460,01 $3 575,45 $2 818,93 $2 724,19 $4 429,86 407,52631 Mon 05 Sep 2011 09:19:15 AM GMT $5,63597 $7,91654 294,50808 $2 331,49 $1 021,94 $3 353,43 $2 681,78 $2 458,09 $4 429,86 423,59790 Mon 05 Sep 2011 11:24:40 PM GMT $5,63597 $7,57906 284,98577 $2 159,92 $1 092,76 $3 252,68 $2 698,93 $2 353,30 $4 429,86 429,16687 Tue 06 Sep 2011 10:05:44 AM GMT $5,63597 $6,69282 328,51593 $2 198,70 $784,71 $2 983,41 $2 636,22 $2 078,12 $4 429,86 445,76308 Tue 06 Sep 2011 01:57:18 PM GMT $5,63597 $6,79929 246,26328 $1 674,42 $1 332,65 $3 007,06 $2 720,58 $2 111,18 $4 429,86 442,26138 Tue 06 Sep 2011 03:56:51 PM GMT $5,63597 $6,59802 240,52972 $1 587,02 $1 372,83 $2 959,85 $2 728,44 $2 048,69 $4 429,86 448,59614 Tue 06 Sep 2011 07:56:14 PM GMT $5,63597 $6,54316 218,58852 $1 430,26 $1 516,71 $2 946,97 $2 748,67 $2 031,65 $4 429,86 450,38965 Tue 06 Sep 2011 11:00:16 PM GMT $5,63597 $6,76624 210,38674 $1 423,53 $1 573,33 $2 996,85 $2 759,06 $2 100,92 $4 429,86 442,91267 Wed 07 Sep 2011 01:45:28 AM GMT $5,63597 $6,63101 196,11771 $1 300,46 $1 673,01 $2 973,47 $2 778,32 $2 058,93 $4 429,86 448,41864 Wed 07 Sep 2011 05:32:05 AM GMT $5,63597 $6,99114 186,51185 $1 303,93 $1 741,24 $3 045,17 $2 792,41 $2 170,75 $4 429,86 435,57537 Wed 07 Sep 2011 06:53:12 AM GMT $5,63597 $6,93537 171,84789 $1 191,83 $1 848,87 $3 040,70 $2 817,40 $2 153,43 $4 429,86 438,43410 Wed 07 Sep 2011 09:27:33 AM GMT $5,63597 $7,14080 173,23303 $1 237,02 $1 839,75 $3 076,77 $2 816,08 $2 217,22 $4 429,86 430,87174 Wed 07 Sep 2011 02:35:18 PM GMT $5,63597 $6,85824 174,31176 $1 195,47 $1 832,37 $3 027,84 $2 814,79 $2 129,48 $4 429,86 441,48972 Thu 08 Sep 2011 07:13:11 PM GMT $5,63597 $6,67655 172,93449 $1 154,61 $1 845,85 $3 000,46 $2 820,51 $2 073,07 $4 429,86 449,40268 Fri 09 Sep 2011 01:11:24 AM GMT $5,63597 $6,00000 334,11319 $2 004,68 $841,45 $2 846,13 $2 724,50 $1 863,00 $4 429,86 474,35514 Fri 09 Sep 2011 03:14:05 AM GMT $5,63597 $6,44165 310,69363 $2 001,38 $989,93 $2 991,31 $2 740,99 $2 000,13 $4 429,86 464,37056 Fri 09 Sep 2011 06:25:03 AM GMT $5,63597 $6,14322 311,83903 $1 915,70 $983,62 $2 899,32 $2 741,14 $1 907,47 $4 429,86 471,95444 Fri 09 Sep 2011 09:29:17 AM GMT $5,63597 $5,98244 312,82058 $1 871,43 $978,22 $2 849,65 $2 741,26 $1 857,55 $4 429,86 476,33503 Fri 09 Sep 2011 09:39:49 PM GMT $5,63597 $4,89782 306,70844 $1 502,20 $976,77 $2 478,98 $2 705,37 $1 520,77 $4 429,86 506,13897 Sat 10 Sep 2011 11:54:56 AM GMT $5,63597 $5,19762 241,47630 $1 255,10 $1 314,86 $2 569,96 $2 675,81 $1 613,86 $4 429,86 494,44952 Sat 10 Sep 2011 08:25:49 PM GMT $5,63597 $4,70814 294,25141 $1 385,38 $1 056,96 $2 442,33 $2 715,35 $1 461,88 $4 429,86 518,74697 Sun 11 Sep 2011 11:21:46 AM GMT $5,63597 $4,90090 296,49635 $1 453,10 $1 048,95 $2 502,05 $2 720,00 $1 521,73 $4 429,86 510,52902 Sun 11 Sep 2011 07:02:01 PM GMT $5,63597 $6,04200 239,87118 $1 449,30 $1 464,76 $2 914,06 $2 816,67 $1 876,04 $4 429,86 482,30110 Sun 11 Sep 2011 11:28:52 PM GMT $5,63597 $5,81074 239,90927 $1 394,05 $1 481,06 $2 875,11 $2 833,18 $1 804,23 $4 429,86 494,79270 Mon 12 Sep 2011 08:17:54 PM GMT $5,63597 $5,63597 264,45589 $1 490,47 $1 342,16 $2 832,62 $2 832,62 $1 749,97 $4 429,86 502,59707 I guess there's plenty room for improvement but the recent results are encouraging. Now about what I will be doing from now:
Thanks for reading that far, Jesse CTO Aricie PS: A few personal speculations about the recent trends and bots: The market is more or less balancing miners / merchants / early birds asks + exchange fees with customers / new investors bids, in the process of which traders take a profit. Some predictive trading strategies anticipate and accentuate market trends, making the best profit and contributing extra volatility. This is compensated by natural agents, non predictive strategies and some other predictive strategies, which will bring liquidity to the process. Our bots fall in that last category, making a profit only by working against volatility. A notable distinction is also that day traders will sell out after each session, while other strategies will hold balanced hands of btcs and $. Only the former would have secured a profit over the last period and I reckon it was actually prejudicial for most, considering btc traders are usually also btc holders. During the initial rally everyone could make a profit with the miners' happy asking low and the investors bidding high. Now the media coverage did not exactly match the recent difficulty, and while the unbalance started a down trend, I reckon a lot was burnt during the fall with predictive bots + panic selling, on different scales as suggested by those many floors in the history charts, and I suppose a fraction of what was lost could have hold the miners inflation at a reasonably higher price for quite some time. Many bid walls proved fake, and with sellers chasing them, you did not need much extra drama to feed the trend. I don't have anything against predictive strategies, I'll be happy to account for market depth walls and last trades ASAP, but I suppose some of the bots that generated profits playing the down trend didn't account for the loss in their owners' backed up wallets, in other words we should try to make sure our strategies don't dry the market for the loss of everyone. This is to say it is not only about the growing real economy, adjusting difficulty or PR now, it has also a lot to do about how we handle the trading collectively, to keep the price at its max that the market is really willing to cover. There's a prisoners dilemma that blind competing bots wouldn't solve by themselves. I think one way to balance that now is by having more market-makers building up real walls, and I suppose some current holders could take a share of the corresponding profit, or mitigate their losses, while providing coverage against volatility. TLDR; Some feedback about our trading bots platform, pitfalls and perspectives, calling for contributors to the open-source pricer, reflecting on the market. Title: Re: where do i get a mtgox-bot ? Post by: nmat on September 13, 2011, 02:35:21 PM Thanks Aricie. Interesting post.
Title: Re: where do i get a mtgox-bot ? Post by: Cosbycoin on September 14, 2011, 10:02:49 AM or u can buy mine. license for 6 months sells for 10 BTC ppfftttt... Translated: fart noise. Title: Re: where do i get a mtgox-bot ? Post by: runlinux on September 14, 2011, 12:18:45 PM or, just wait for the right person to show up.
link in sig. open sourced too. i made 11% more coins in the past 48 hours with the defaults. |