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Title: Official Rebuttal of claims made against my person and the eMunie project Post by: Fuserleer on January 17, 2014, 03:26:31 AM Now all the chaos from the past few days has calmed down, I thought it would be a good idea to address to the FUD, properly and officially.
I could of course, opt to leave it where it is, the cancellation of the scheduled IPO, and the pending decision on what to do about it seem to have spoken volume enough to those that matter. However, I did chose to be open about my identity, who I was, and have been called out regarding my integrity. Now that I've had a chance to reflect and cool off, I've decided to present a rebuttal to the ridiculous claims made against me. I am of course referring to this thread here - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=411366.0 Case 1 - Beta IPO Quote Daniel claims to have 600 BTC ($500K to $600K USD) and there is a $8K investment limit. That means they needed 75 to 500 people in the beta test to take part in a beta presale. If you think people would invest into a 'beta', of all things, then I have a bridge in Somalia for sale. Fuserleer could counter and said that BTC was raised a long time ago but still no one would invest $60K or $120K into a 'beta' - it's all bollocks. All I need to do is post this - https://blockchain.info/address/1EMunieVKAs8PC8mXeBkXnnry79toEKust The sharp eyed among you will notice a deficit in the current balance and amount received, there are 2 reasons for this. 1) A few early investors requested that I cash out their Bitcoins to lock in their value early, the total was ~60BTC 2) As I'm sure you are all aware, a couple of weeks ago BTC took a huge dump below $500 due to the China news. I decided to move the majority of the BTC at that time to various exchanges, so that in the event that the drop continued, I could sell out a chunk of BTC and protect the investments. Once BTC had stabilized and recovered, I moved those BTC back to the wallet as I had not cashed out. The total was ~ 220 BTC at the time. Case 2 - Identity Quote http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/dan-hughes/7/b11/2a6 http://www.pof.com/viewprofile.aspx?profile_id=41163580 We know Daniel is a 34 year old male, with no education, no sure status about his real profession (unless being a scammer counts), et cetera. Take a note at his age on Plenty of Fish and compare it with his Linkedin profile. Age 34 means Daniel was born in 1980. Daniel's first listed job at was a "Senior Developer at Senior Creations" (see Linkedin), in 1996 - meaning he was only 16 years old. Did Daniel drop out of Highschool to become a senior developer? Damn - he should had dropped out at age twelve, maybe he would had been made CEO. Daniel learned so much in his first year and a half that he later made "Director of Technology" at another company. The claim that my linked in and professional history are fake and manufactured are pretty insane. If you check my linked in profile, you will see a large amount of individuals from the telecoms industry, mainly T-Mobile, Deutsche Telekom, Nokia, and others. KDB Technology was my company for many years, and we worked with the companies I have just listed, T-Mobile being our main client. I invite anyone to message any of my contacts to verify my identity and professional relationship with them. I'm not sure of the relevance of the POF account, I did not realize that being married to the spawn of the devil, which resulted in my becoming single was a crime. As for my "claims" of being a Senior developer at Software Creations at the at the age of 17, I refer you to this http://www.mobygames.com/game/windows/fa-premier-league-stars/credits I worked as an Assistant Lead developer (which is pretty senior) on the Playstation SKU, if you scroll down the page, you'll see my name. You can get a copy of this game on eBay, Amazon still if you hunt around, my name is there in the credits listed as "Assistant Lead". I am self educated in many disciplines, including development, business, mathematics/scientific & economic theory. Most of brightest minds in the world are self-educated, which means they are not institutionalized and thus can think outside of the box. Having no official qualifications should be praised, not judged, as those persons are typically more self-motivated and likely to succeed. Case 2.5 - Scamming Quote Daniel also had membership on Blackhatworld http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/members/224492-fuserleer.html So we know what Daniel was doing for a living - he was running scams. Just because he was banned in 2012 does not mean he stopped running his scams, he was likely doing them until March of 2013 (and still could be continuing with them). There was a post by Fuserleer bragging about scamming $1500 in a single day. http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/making-money/361170-just-hit-milestone-1000-today.html (Fuserleer / Daniel bragging about making $1500) http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/blackhat-lounge/413499-jr-vip-banned-life-paypal-how.html Daniel at the time wasn't doing anything for a living, I had sold the IP and assets of KDB and was living a nice, semi-retired lifestyle. After being so active for so many years, I soon got bored, so I decided to learn some new skills, one that I thought would be useful in the future was internet marketing. Say what you will about BHW, but it has some of the smartest white hat internet marketers on the planet residing there (its a shame management aren't quite as smart) and I decided to participate there, and other websites, to learn about IM. If you actually spend some time to check out BHW, you will notice that many many people there post the results of their internet marketing milestones. My posting about the first day I made $1500 was nothing out of the ordinary, and they generally help to motivate and encourage the people spending many hours learning and honing their IM skills. Also in that thread there is a quote from me "...even though I'm on BHW its all pretty much white hat techniques and a little grey in for good measure..." Scammers don't use white or grey hat marketing, they use 100% black with a bit of blood colored red in for good measure. Aside from my internet marketing, I was playing around with an retail online store, I had concentrated solely on telecoms for almost 10 years, and wanted to learn about everything. Let me tell you, operating that retail site was TOUGH work and very long hours and I wouldn't recommend it to anyone. Delivery companies couldn't give 2 craps about your customers, or the goods you are sending out, and as result there were a lot of logistical problems, negative reviews, and I soon decided that it wasn't for me. Paypal however decided it would be a great idea to freeze the account due to 1 rather hard to please customer while it had in excess of £30k in it, and they were going to hold it for 180 days. Needless to say I was not best pleased, as aside from some of that being profit, a large portion of it was to cover my expenses incurred re-sending out replacement items for those that had been lost. I decided not to wait to the 180 days for Paypal get around to releasing it and hit them head on. Adpulse was a venture into CPA and other affiliate marketing methods and it started off extremely well. I even have an award trophy sitting on my desk for "Best CPA Network 2012" that I am very proud of (and can post a picture of, including the day it arrived in the box). As we are seeing here though, with good work come foul souls, and it wasn't long before we were seeing a lot of fraud in the network and our advertisers were refusing to pay for those leads. All affiliate networks that are driven by lead generation take the same stance "If we don't get paid for your fraud leads, then you don't get paid for them either" and that is the stance we took. Some fraudsters weren't happy, but overall things were moving well. Then we get to the BHW incident which I have explained in other places already so I will simply re-post my response Quote Because some guy on there attempted to scam me out of $2k even though he had been paid. It wasn't even anything to do with BHW, yet he posted a thread. I kicked up a fuss about it, stating it was nothing to do with BHW, it wasn't for a service or product listed on there as it was personal business and refused to yield to his threats. For some reason the BHW mods decided to poke their noses in even though it was nothing to do with them, by this point I was trying to keep my good name yet they sided with him even though I had proof I'd paid him. The BHW mods are as crooked as the members quite frankly and I wouldn't visit that place again if I was paid to. Hopefully that is a sufficient explanation regarding a crooked websites actions. Case 3 & 4 - eMunie Anyone that's ever spent any time interacting with the members on the eMunie forum will immediately notice that it is different from many other forums by way of it FEELS like a real community with everyone pushing in the same direction with the same goal. The reason for that is the way I run my own house there, its fair, everyone gets a say, I don't victimize anyone for any opinion they have, even if it goes against my own, and I listen. I encourage everyone to follow those same principles, and they do, because they feel part of something. Some of the guys there have spent months now, working with me on a daily basis, honing and perfecting the eMunie system, and they rightly feel its as much their project as it is mine. The client is not vaporware, and the delays are due to my own strive for perfection, if its not 100% right, I'm not happy, and if I'm not happy I feel like I have failed myself. I could of released eMunie many times over, but as we have seen with other projects, releasing too soon can do more damage than good and I'm sure if I was to launch early and someone lost their life savings due to a bug, the pitchforks would be out and rightly so. eMunie is a complicated piece of software, much more so than BitCoin and it's clones, thus it requires rigorous testing to ensure its stability, and should be THE highest priority of all because ultimately it is ME that will be held accountable for any losses. In Closing I'm going to wrap this rebuttal up at this point, I could continue and provide more solid evidence to counter the ridiculous claims made against me but I feel I have provided enough to vindicate any doubt regarding my ability, integrity and morality. Of course, your opinion is your own and you are entitled to it, and should you choose to believe or not believe the claims or my responses that is up to you. Finally, I would ask and appreciate any future personal attacks are kept just that, personal to yourselves. Critique of the project I welcome, some of it in the past has resulted in me looking at parts of the system and redoing them, usually at the cost of great effort and have provided a better implementation than before, just to be sure. Yours Dan Hughes / Fuserleer Title: Re: Official Rebuttal of claims made against my person and the eMunie project Post by: delphs on January 17, 2014, 03:31:08 AM I didn't follow the story but I appreciate the way you're handling the situation.
+1 Title: Re: Official Rebuttal of claims made against my person and the eMunie project Post by: tk808 on January 17, 2014, 03:40:25 AM I didn't follow the story but I appreciate the way you're handling the situation. +1 Great rebuttal. You gained every bit and more credibility that you may have lost. (I'm not active on eMunies forums) Title: Re: Official Rebuttal of claims made against my person and the eMunie project Post by: Visin on January 17, 2014, 03:43:50 AM Exactly +1
Title: Re: Official Rebuttal of claims made against my person and the eMunie project Post by: SyRenity on January 17, 2014, 03:57:26 AM Awesome rebuttal, good even for people who only now are starting to look more seriously into eMunie.
From looking at the website and forums, I see a lot of features similar to NXT. What are the main differences from NXT, in addition to distribution model, which (hopefully) will be more fair to everyone? Title: Re: Official Rebuttal of claims made against my person and the eMunie project Post by: tadkis on January 17, 2014, 04:02:49 AM I think all beta team are proud working in your EMU command. You are the great BOSS !!!
Title: Re: Official Rebuttal of claims made against my person and the eMunie project Post by: Fuserleer on January 17, 2014, 04:04:43 AM Awesome rebuttal, good even for people who only now are starting to look more seriously into eMunie. From looking at the website and forums, I see a lot of features similar to NXT. What are the main differences from NXT, in addition to distribution model, which (hopefully) will be more fair to everyone? Contrary to common belief, eMunie actually had a lot of the NxT features (and other "competitor's") implemented first, most of which many months ago, aliases (ENS), coloured coins (assets), messaging, chat and more. However, with our longer development timescale, other developers have had similar ideas and implemented them into projects that were due to market faster. Our ace cards though are the following: EVERYTHING is encrypted (even network traffic) Efficient 100% anonymous transactions The first true economic supply & demand model P2P exchange AND marketplace (goods trading) Pruning and compact block tree (full sync times in minutes, not days) There's a lot more going on behind the scenes in terms of infrastructure, but I'm not willing to divulge much of that yet. Title: Re: Official Rebuttal of claims made against my person and the eMunie project Post by: Sharky444 on January 17, 2014, 04:14:50 AM Way to go Dan!
Title: Re: Official Rebuttal of claims made against my person and the eMunie project Post by: cexylikepie on January 17, 2014, 04:39:45 AM I have never heard of you.
I have never heard of eMunie. However, i have read through your rebuttal and the provided links and i like you a lot. what is eMunie? Title: Re: Official Rebuttal of claims made against my person and the eMunie project Post by: mckmuze on January 17, 2014, 04:51:04 AM Now all the chaos from the past few days has calmed down, I thought it would be a good idea to address to the FUD, properly and officially. I could of course, opt to leave it where it is, the cancellation of the scheduled IPO, and the pending decision on what to do about it seem to have spoken volume enough to those that matter. However, I did chose to be open about my identity, who I was, and have been called out regarding my integrity. Now that I've had a chance to reflect and cool off, I've decided to present a rebuttal to the ridiculous claims made against me. I am of course referring to this thread here - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=411366.0 Case 1 - Beta IPO Quote Daniel claims to have 600 BTC ($500K to $600K USD) and there is a $8K investment limit. That means they needed 75 to 500 people in the beta test to take part in a beta presale. If you think people would invest into a 'beta', of all things, then I have a bridge in Somalia for sale. Fuserleer could counter and said that BTC was raised a long time ago but still no one would invest $60K or $120K into a 'beta' - it's all bollocks. All I need to do is post this - https://blockchain.info/address/1EMunieVKAs8PC8mXeBkXnnry79toEKust The sharp eyed among you will notice a deficit in the current balance and amount received, there are 2 reasons for this. 1) A few early investors requested that I cash out their Bitcoins to lock in their value early, the total was ~60BTC 2) As I'm sure you are all aware, a couple of weeks ago BTC took a huge dump below $500 due to the China news. I decided to move the majority of the BTC at that time to various exchanges, so that in the event that the drop continued, I could sell out a chunk of BTC and protect the investments. Once BTC had stabilized and recovered, I moved those BTC back to the wallet as I had not cashed out. The total was ~ 220 BTC at the time. Case 2 - Identity Quote http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/dan-hughes/7/b11/2a6 http://www.pof.com/viewprofile.aspx?profile_id=41163580 We know Daniel is a 34 year old male, with no education, no sure status about his real profession (unless being a scammer counts), et cetera. Take a note at his age on Plenty of Fish and compare it with his Linkedin profile. Age 34 means Daniel was born in 1980. Daniel's first listed job at was a "Senior Developer at Senior Creations" (see Linkedin), in 1996 - meaning he was only 16 years old. Did Daniel drop out of Highschool to become a senior developer? Damn - he should had dropped out at age twelve, maybe he would had been made CEO. Daniel learned so much in his first year and a half that he later made "Director of Technology" at another company. The claim that my linked in and professional history are fake and manufactured are pretty insane. If you check my linked in profile, you will see a large amount of individuals from the telecoms industry, mainly T-Mobile, Deutsche Telekom, Nokia, and others. KDB Technology was my company for many years, and we worked with the companies I have just listed, T-Mobile being our main client. I invite anyone to message any of my contacts to verify my identity and professional relationship with them. I'm not sure of the relevance of the POF account, I did not realize that being married to the spawn of the devil, which resulted in my becoming single was a crime. As for my "claims" of being a Senior developer at Software Creations at the at the age of 17, I refer you to this http://www.mobygames.com/game/windows/fa-premier-league-stars/credits I worked as an Assistant Lead developer (which is pretty senior) on the Playstation SKU, if you scroll down the page, you'll see my name. You can get a copy of this game on eBay, Amazon still if you hunt around, my name is there in the credits listed as "Assistant Lead". I am self educated in many disciplines, including development, business, mathematics/scientific & economic theory. Most of brightest minds in the world are self-educated, which means they are not institutionalized and thus can think outside of the box. Having no official qualifications should be praised, not judged, as those persons are typically more self-motivated and likely to succeed. Case 2.5 - Scamming Quote Daniel also had membership on Blackhatworld http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/members/224492-fuserleer.html So we know what Daniel was doing for a living - he was running scams. Just because he was banned in 2012 does not mean he stopped running his scams, he was likely doing them until March of 2013 (and still could be continuing with them). There was a post by Fuserleer bragging about scamming $1500 in a single day. http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/making-money/361170-just-hit-milestone-1000-today.html (Fuserleer / Daniel bragging about making $1500) http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/blackhat-lounge/413499-jr-vip-banned-life-paypal-how.html Daniel at the time wasn't doing anything for a living, I had sold the IP and assets of KDB and was living a nice, semi-retired lifestyle. After being so active for so many years, I soon got bored, so I decided to learn some new skills, one that I thought would be useful in the future was internet marketing. Say what you will about BHW, but it has some of the smartest white hat internet marketers on the planet residing there (its a shame management aren't quite as smart) and I decided to participate there, and other websites, to learn about IM. If you actually spend some time to check out BHW, you will notice that many many people there post the results of their internet marketing milestones. My posting about the first day I made $1500 was nothing out of the ordinary, and they generally help to motivate and encourage the people spending many hours learning and honing their IM skills. Also in that thread there is a quote from me "...even though I'm on BHW its all pretty much white hat techniques and a little grey in for good measure..." Scammers don't use white or grey hat marketing, they use 100% black with a bit of blood colored red in for good measure. Aside from my internet marketing, I was playing around with an retail online store, I had concentrated solely on telecoms for almost 10 years, and wanted to learn about everything. Let me tell you, operating that retail site was TOUGH work and very long hours and I wouldn't recommend it to anyone. Delivery companies couldn't give 2 craps about your customers, or the goods you are sending out, and as result there were a lot of logistical problems, negative reviews, and I soon decided that it wasn't for me. Paypal however decided it would be a great idea to freeze the account due to 1 rather hard to please customer while it had in excess of £30k in it, and they were going to hold it for 180 days. Needless to say I was not best pleased, as aside from some of that being profit, a large portion of it was to cover my expenses incurred re-sending out replacement items for those that had been lost. I decided not to wait to the 180 days for Paypal get around to releasing it and hit them head on. Adpulse was a venture into CPA and other affiliate marketing methods and it started off extremely well. I even have an award trophy sitting on my desk for "Best CPA Network 2012" that I am very proud of (and can post a picture of, including the day it arrived in the box). As we are seeing here though, with good work come foul souls, and it wasn't long before we were seeing a lot of fraud in the network and our advertisers were refusing to pay for those leads. All affiliate networks that are driven by lead generation take the same stance "If we don't get paid for your fraud leads, then you don't get paid for them either" and that is the stance we took. Some fraudsters weren't happy, but overall things were moving well. Then we get to the BHW incident which I have explained in other places already so I will simply re-post my response Quote Because some guy on there attempted to scam me out of $2k even though he had been paid. It wasn't even anything to do with BHW, yet he posted a thread. I kicked up a fuss about it, stating it was nothing to do with BHW, it wasn't for a service or product listed on there as it was personal business and refused to yield to his threats. For some reason the BHW mods decided to poke their noses in even though it was nothing to do with them, by this point I was trying to keep my good name yet they sided with him even though I had proof I'd paid him. The BHW mods are as crooked as the members quite frankly and I wouldn't visit that place again if I was paid to. Hopefully that is a sufficient explanation regarding a crooked websites actions. Case 3 & 4 - eMunie Anyone that's ever spent any time interacting with the members on the eMunie forum will immediately notice that it is different from many other forums by way of it FEELS like a real community with everyone pushing in the same direction with the same goal. The reason for that is the way I run my own house there, its fair, everyone gets a say, I don't victimize anyone for any opinion they have, even if it goes against my own, and I listen. I encourage everyone to follow those same principles, and they do, because they feel part of something. Some of the guys there have spent months now, working with me on a daily basis, honing and perfecting the eMunie system, and they rightly feel its as much their project as it is mine. The client is not vaporware, and the delays are due to my own strive for perfection, if its not 100% right, I'm not happy, and if I'm not happy I feel like I have failed myself. I could of released eMunie many times over, but as we have seen with other projects, releasing too soon can do more damage than good and I'm sure if I was to launch early and someone lost their life savings due to a bug, the pitchforks would be out and rightly so. eMunie is a complicated piece of software, much more so than BitCoin and it's clones, thus it requires rigorous testing to ensure its stability, and should be THE highest priority of all because ultimately it is ME that will be held accountable for any losses. In Closing I'm going to wrap this rebuttal up at this point, I could continue and provide more solid evidence to counter the ridiculous claims made against me but I feel I have provided enough to vindicate any doubt regarding my ability, integrity and morality. Of course, your opinion is your own and you are entitled to it, and should you choose to believe or not believe the claims or my responses that is up to you. Finally, I would ask and appreciate any future personal attacks are kept just that, personal to yourselves. Critique of the project I welcome, some of it in the past has resulted in me looking at parts of the system and redoing them, usually at the cost of great effort and have provided a better implementation than before, just to be sure. Yours Dan Hughes / Fuserleer Nice dan, I think people will see soon enough the personal empowerment that will come with your great contribution. I cant wait to see this thing take off. The community aspect is about to raise the bar, get ready for a model for how a distributed financial system should be. Cooperative prosperity and a strong community is the only way for this entire revolution to work. Bitcoin may have the network effect, but emunie will have stability, community and integrity. I cant wait. Look I didn't ramble again. :P I'm getting better. (TLDR)..... :P Title: Re: Official Rebuttal of claims made against my person and the eMunie project Post by: wezelvis on January 17, 2014, 05:40:24 AM Great post Dan! I'm very proud to be associated with you and eMunie!!
Title: Re: Official Rebuttal of claims made against my person and the eMunie project Post by: lantz on January 17, 2014, 05:49:38 AM I like :)
Title: Re: Official Rebuttal of claims made against my person and the eMunie project Post by: Bartje on January 17, 2014, 10:46:49 AM As a betatester, having used several versions of the client, and having seen Dan's fulltime commitment to this project for over half a year already, I have a lot of trust in this project and think it is the most promising thing in the cryptocurrency world that is currently brewing.
+1 for this rebuttal. Title: Re: Official Rebuttal of claims made against my person and the eMunie project Post by: Fuserleer on January 17, 2014, 02:38:07 PM Thanks for the respectful replies guys!
Hopefully now we can draw a line under all this and move forward as I always intended Title: Re: Official Rebuttal of claims made against my person and the eMunie project Post by: td services on January 18, 2014, 12:33:17 AM I see your points, but a lot of my time lately is just taken up dealing with endless FUD directed at me personally. We all know the damage that FUD can create, especially if it goes un-managed and/or ignored, but by doing that, the flip side is that the development of the project and the time already ploughed into it suffers instead. If eMunie was launched already and had a solid user base, then it wouldn't be an issue and could more readily be ignored. That time has not come to pass yet, so to ensure the continued progress of the project, this seemed to me to be the best move at this moment in time. But how do you expect to get a solid user base (aka. good distribution) when you cancel the public IPO? The less people buying in the presale, the more scam accusations will there be. And opposite. For every extra person buying eMunie in the presale you got 1 more indivdual supporting the project. One way is to perform a public IPO immediately on launch with a limited amount of currency, with the same terms as what was specified already. That way the general public that aren't a bunch of trolls can participate, and the project can no longer be called a scam, as its out there. I'm open to thoughts and suggestions, but bear in mind that my primary concern right now is system development, not investment. It's always been that way, but with a preference of the initial user base is ready to go on the day. As we've seen that's caused some issues, so my current thinking is something along the lines of the above. This seems like a major change in the planned pre-sale. Is the reason for "a limited amount of currency" to limit dilution of exisitng investment? Title: Re: Official Rebuttal of claims made against my person and the eMunie project Post by: Fuserleer on January 18, 2014, 12:36:12 AM No it was just an "idea" at the time very soon after the decision was made to cancel, and granted not a very good one.
We will not be going down that route whatever happens, that is for sure. Title: Re: Official Rebuttal of claims made against my person and the eMunie project Post by: Hazard on January 18, 2014, 12:40:08 AM BHW is full of more indians trying to make $2 a day from adsense than anything else. :D
Hope you'll reconsider your stance on the IPO. Title: Re: Official Rebuttal of claims made against my person and the eMunie project Post by: LeoC on January 18, 2014, 01:15:26 AM Save your money and invest in a real currency with real value.
No reason to spend a single dime on the closed source "emunie" which is a potential scam when you can just invest in Ethereum. Ethereum pre-sale begins in one week and the whitepaper and all of its details as well as its source code are ALL AVAILABLE! Created by a team that actually have a history of knowing their shit unlike the devs at emunie which have absolutely no experience with crypto. This is a no brainer folks. emunie is dead on arrival, oh wait it hasn't arrived yet. More like stillborn. The Ethereum whitepaper crushes any hope this scam has. Thank you all for your kind words via PM, means a lot to me! LEARN MORE ABOUT ETHEREUM HERE! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=412878.0) Title: Re: Official Rebuttal of claims made against my person and the eMunie project Post by: td services on January 18, 2014, 01:27:36 AM No it was just an "idea" at the time very soon after the decision was made to cancel, and granted not a very good one. We will not be going down that route whatever happens, that is for sure. Will there still be a pre-sale? I was looking forward to investing at the planned price. Thanks Title: Re: Official Rebuttal of claims made against my person and the eMunie project Post by: jacquette on January 18, 2014, 03:23:32 AM Save your money and invest in a real currency with real value. No reason to spend a single dime on the closed source "emunie" which is a potential scam when you can just invest in Ethereum. Ethereum pre-sale begins in one week and the whitepaper and all of its details as well as its source code are ALL AVAILABLE! Created by a team that actually have a history of knowing their shit unlike the devs at emunie which have absolutely no experience with crypto. This is a no brainer folks. emunie is dead on arrival, oh wait it hasn't arrived yet. More like stillborn. The Ethereum whitepaper crushes any hope this scam has. Thank you all for your kind words via PM, means a lot to me! LEARN MORE ABOUT ETHEREUM HERE! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=412878.0) Your really picking a fight.. aren't ya? Title: Re: Official Rebuttal of claims made against my person and the eMunie project Post by: windjc on January 18, 2014, 04:51:12 AM Save your money and invest in a real currency with real value. No reason to spend a single dime on the closed source "emunie" which is a potential scam when you can just invest in Ethereum. Ethereum pre-sale begins in one week and the whitepaper and all of its details as well as its source code are ALL AVAILABLE! Created by a team that actually have a history of knowing their shit unlike the devs at emunie which have absolutely no experience with crypto. This is a no brainer folks. emunie is dead on arrival, oh wait it hasn't arrived yet. More like stillborn. The Ethereum whitepaper crushes any hope this scam has. Thank you all for your kind words via PM, means a lot to me! LEARN MORE ABOUT ETHEREUM HERE! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=412878.0) THEN THERE'S THIS: And you needed to quadruple post why? It's not about envy, it's about trust. I'll be absolutely happy if the devs became billionairs IF they deserve it. Only a naive fool would say they deserve anything right now without showing anything in action. The devs are asking to be paid on two fronts, one being an IPO which everyone despises and are known to be used by scammers since there is no turning back once you've sent the cash, and two with a huge supply of currency that they can dump after a year. If Ether is poised to be the next big thing, why do they need an IPO? Especially one that uses an untraceable BTC purchase. If they had such an ingenious system, why wouldn't the IPO be done with USD or EUR. That way we are at least protected if it is a scam? If I were a dev and I knew that my product was going to be amazing, I'd be satisfied with the millions I would make with my currency. If I were a dev and I felt that the project would fail, or that it had no value, or that I was planning to release it then go on vacation to the Bahamas, then I would do a BTC IPO so that I can at least secure some money at the expense of everyone that trusted me. This may or may not be the case here, which is why I said there is NO way to absolutely sure. No one is being given the benefit of the doubt. So the only logical step would be to cancel the IPO entirely or until the product is launched. eMunie did this, and I have to give Fuserleer huge props for doing so. I'd be contradicting myself if I were against them, but for this. Not to mention that people don't understand how the coding system seems to be implemented. Ethereum is claiming to be Turing complete. Turing complete means that Ethereum contracts will likely be absolutely loaded with common and proprietary viruses, keyloggers, malware, adware, and a slew of other bad things. I am willing to bet my bank account that in a few short months people will be crying about how they got all their wallets/currency stolen, or their computers are now running slow, or how they blue screen every few minutes after a reboot. If you want an example of how Turing complete works, load up a peer to peer sharing program and download a bunch of .MOV files and run them. I GUARANTEE that you will get a virus. That's because Quicktime movie files are Turing complete. This is why mkv, mpeg, mpg and avi, while not impervious, are much much safer to download. If you want to invest, mine, and run contracts at the risk of losing everything then go ahead. We will never know for sure how secure Ether is going to be until post release, so asking for money without proof of security is another red flag. I thought eMunie looked bad during its pre IPO but Ethereum takes it to a new level. Multiple personality disorder much? Title: Re: Official Rebuttal of claims made against my person and the eMunie project Post by: anderl on January 18, 2014, 05:32:00 AM Fuserleer I monitored your efforts on eMunie from the very beginning. It was a very interesting project. I even was willing to accept a temporary close source for the project to protect IP. It was a difficult challenge and the mining community was a difficult community to win over.
It was an interesting project and is far and beyond the most unique of all of them. Above and beyond the garbage that is released here. For me it was a difficult project to invest into. I felt I was on the outside of the project. I did not feel that I was contributing much to it. I believe that many of the attack on you and your project are mostly hacks and script kiddies that think they can flip a few switches in an algorithm make them developers and the next big thing. It may envy. I wish you all the best with eMunie. I have no opinion for or against the project. I wish you the best of luck. Title: Re: Official Rebuttal of claims made against my person and the eMunie project Post by: extee on January 18, 2014, 06:56:44 AM Fuserleer you should add that the slandering quotes you rebutting to are from LeoC himself. so people can spot the troll straight off the bat if he puts his head again in this thread .
btw he was slamming ethereum for the past week and now he's pimping it? lol prolly thinks he can make a quick buck on it after all. I've never seen any developer being so open about his life like Fuserleer. seems like the satoshi anonymous way is the only way to do business in crypto or people will attack you on a personal level. I'm keeping my hopes up for an open beta and for an IPO . what I seen from emunie so far is very promising. keep up the good work guys and let us know when you're close to release. Title: Re: Official Rebuttal of claims made against my person and the eMunie project Post by: extee on January 19, 2014, 12:34:33 PM edit:wrong thread
Title: Re: Official Rebuttal of claims made against my person and the eMunie project Post by: Coinonaer on January 20, 2014, 02:22:53 PM Well done Dan. Respect. :)
Title: Re: Official Rebuttal of claims made against my person and the eMunie project Post by: Chang Hum on January 27, 2014, 11:01:43 PM Is it possible to invest in Emunie now or again in the future?
Title: Re: Official Rebuttal of claims made against my person and the eMunie project Post by: Peachy on January 28, 2014, 01:27:02 PM Is it possible to invest in Emunie now or again in the future? Chang Hum, Come on over! forum.emunie.com/ (http://forum.emunie.com/) The official party hasn't yet started, but a preview of the festivities (ie. Open Beta) is about to be released. You can find all the details about how to test drive the client yourself in the above forum link. Grab a beer and kick back with a truly collaborative bunch of gentlemen (and ladies). A top-notch class-act if ever there was one. Peachy Title: Re: Official Rebuttal of claims made against my person and the eMunie project Post by: Hansen on January 29, 2014, 08:12:13 AM For all who still doubt there is a working beta:
http://forum.emunie.com/index.php?/topic/1339-ob1-whats-in-and-whats-not-saturday-1st-feb-2014/ and https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=437805.0 No need to invest, just try it on your own on feb., 1st and get your opinion about it. If anyone still thinks, its a scam, well you dont have to go for it then. In any case, this proves leo/coassackman, however he is calling himself now, wrong in one of his accusations. Have fun with the beta! Hansen Title: Re: Official Rebuttal of claims made against my person and the eMunie project Post by: morningtime on February 01, 2014, 12:53:25 PM I can prove Dan Hughes / Fuserleer is lying.
He claims to have worked on a video game as a lead developer at age 17: http://www.mobygames.com/game/windows/fa-premier-league-stars/credits Where his name is listed as Dan Hughes. However, click on his name. That same Dan Hughes also worked on Dj Hero 2 in 2010. http://www.mobygames.com/developer/sheet/view/developerId,117344/ ...but that's this guy - the REAL Dan Hughes: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hughesdaniel eMunie is a scam. Fuserleer has constructed a fake profile based on guys named "Dan Hughes" (a very common name). It's strange enough to have a German nickname "Fuserleer" if you're British. But the profile photo? Looks like a model, not a developer. Title: Re: Official Rebuttal of claims made against my person and the eMunie project Post by: Fuserleer on February 01, 2014, 03:04:27 PM I can prove Dan Hughes / Fuserleer is lying. He claims to have worked on a video game as a lead developer at age 17: http://www.mobygames.com/game/windows/fa-premier-league-stars/credits Where his name is listed as Dan Hughes. However, click on his name. That same Dan Hughes also worked on Dj Hero 2 in 2010. http://www.mobygames.com/developer/sheet/view/developerId,117344/ ...but that's this guy - the REAL Dan Hughes: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hughesdaniel eMunie is a scam. Fuserleer has constructed a fake profile based on guys named "Dan Hughes" (a very common name). It's strange enough to have a German nickname "Fuserleer" if you're British. But the profile photo? Looks like a model, not a developer. Seeing as you are trolling eMunie posts, I'll troll yours.....As posted in other threads to your attempt at FUD ----- Oh just shut up now already....one word ---- CHECKMATE http://emunie.com/BTTtrolls.jpg *waits for a nut job to claim I stole his passport too* Would you like a driver license, birth certificate? Hell do you want a DNA swab also? Title: Re: Official Rebuttal of claims made against my person and the eMunie project Post by: tadkis on February 01, 2014, 03:06:53 PM All beta members saw how hard Dan works...for us there is not important is this is Dan or not... we saw very good and talented member of our community...we are proud to work with him...
Title: Re: Official Rebuttal of claims made against my person and the eMunie project Post by: Emule on February 11, 2014, 07:06:18 AM Hughes, the main reason why people should NOT invest in your pyramide sceme is that you are a retard.
You already pre-sold 600 BTC on discount price to your "friends" So get back to your emu corner and go pis there, you don't need BTC trolls. Title: Re: Official Rebuttal of claims made against my person and the eMunie project Post by: Hansen on February 11, 2014, 11:02:09 AM Hughes, the main reason why people should NOT invest in your pyramide sceme is that you are a retard. You already pre-sold 600 BTC on discount price to your "friends" So get back to your emu corner and go pis there, you don't need BTC trolls. You know, like 15 other people I met this "retard" last weekend. He is pretty smart for a retard actually. But I guess I am just a retard myself and didnt realize that he actually is one. About the presell: As all of the beta testers had the possibility to go into that presell, Dan must have many friends, as there are quite a lot of beta testers. So what friends are YOU actually talking about? I dont answer your last sentence as you must first work on your way to communicate there before I will do this. Title: Re: Official Rebuttal of claims made against my person and the eMunie project Post by: tadkis on February 11, 2014, 12:05:38 PM [/quote] Hughes, the main reason why people should NOT invest in your pyramide sceme is that you are a retard. You already pre-sold 600 BTC on discount price to your "friends" So get back to your emu corner and go pis there, you don't need BTC trolls. Emule, who are you that to tell such things about Hudges? You know him personally??? You are one of his friends?? Do you can to prove your words??? I think : no, you can't... even you didn't see him... so don't talk nonsenses... There are a lot of people which saw him and had personal conversations with him... you just troling... sitting in your chair near computer and that is all. So that is enough, he is real man, he is open... and i think he gave to you, leoC and to others a lot of provments of his work. If you don't believe in emu; don't invest... this is your choice... but don't talk nonsences... |
