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Title: Goodbye to Merit History... Post by: Vod on May 25, 2018, 02:30:15 AM All good things must come to an end.
Today marks 120 days since the merit system was introduced, and as Theymos said, old entries are going to start dropping off the file: https://bitcointalk.org/merit.txt.xz If you want a complete list of merit entries, you now need to keep your own historical records. Oldest entries (120+ days) will also start disappear off of individual merit pages. Title: Re: Goodbye to Merit History... Post by: Wheelige on May 25, 2018, 02:47:49 AM And this means that anyone that merited themselves through alt accounts that havent been caught yet will get away with it.
Why was there a 120 day limit put on it? Title: Re: Goodbye to Merit History... Post by: Piggy on May 25, 2018, 04:15:40 AM I think many people in here have a list for statistical purposes or some back up. In any case there would be many ways to preserve it online, the file is growing but is nothing enormously big.
Title: Re: Goodbye to Merit History... Post by: LoyceMobile on May 25, 2018, 04:27:15 AM I've been keeping records for a while now, with weekly updates. Assuming my script works correct, see here:
Weekly update (2018-05-18_Fri_10.14h) theymos' data Sample (format: time amount msg user_from user_to): Code: 1526611812 1 3896497.msg37564005 55384 397737 Also available in human readable format (http://loycev.000webhostapp.com/Merit/merit.html)* (21 MB). * This file will be overwritten by newer versions Update: I only now see my upload failed, I'll fix that when I'm back at my PC. Title: Re: Goodbye to Merit History... Post by: vit05 on May 25, 2018, 05:44:15 AM I did not know about it, thank you for the warning. I will start saving the records to always remember who gave me merit and for what reason. Unfortunately, this might help some people that do merit farm. Since attempts to combat them are still being tested.
Title: Re: Goodbye to Merit History... Post by: LoyceV on May 25, 2018, 06:10:21 AM Unfortunately, this might help some people that do merit farm. If needed, I can make a thread in Reputation where I grant Merit-history-requests for any user.Title: Re: Goodbye to Merit History... Post by: Thirio on May 25, 2018, 06:59:18 AM Tried to open the link, downloaded something and then i checked the content. Man, i did not understand any of those. Other than having a backup file/record for the merit history, are there any reason why are we doing this?
Title: Re: Goodbye to Merit History... Post by: DdmrDdmr on May 25, 2018, 07:24:34 AM Today marks 120 days since the merit system was introduced, and as Theymos said, old entries are going to start dropping off the file: https://bitcointalk.org/merit.txt.xz Seen it. The Merit.txt file already has some initial hours trimmed off: This Weeks: nMerit nTx nFrom nTo minDate maxDate 156729 70826 14056 15682 2018-01-25 02:52:04.000 2018-05-25 02:45:40.000 Last Weeks: nMerit nTx nFrom nTo minDate maxDate 154986 69364 13904 15511 2018-01-24 22:12:21.000 2018-05-18 02:50:12.000 The chopped off registers add up to 2359 sMerits (610 wacky deflowering the system Txs). The weird thing I've found are a set of 9 Txs that were in last week's file and not on this weeks, belonging to the common period: time amount msg user_from user_to converted_date 1526466697 1 45212.msg37354230 1192397 209286 2018-05-16 10:31:37.000 1526427398 1 3297659.msg37378125 452769 1168027 2018-05-15 23:36:38.000 1526417463 1 1747305.msg37390368 1160524 1012481 2018-05-15 20:51:03.000 1526412210 1 3297659.msg37378125 1627661 1168027 2018-05-15 19:23:30.000 1526403535 2 2671650.msg37344086 234915 501852 2018-05-15 16:58:55.000 1526391452 2 2671650.msg37344086 1765178 501852 2018-05-15 13:37:32.000 1523884328 2 3315165.msg34758186 974425 668651 2018-04-16 13:12:08.000 1518181690 1 2669342.msg29300364 1141229 1495332 2018-02-09 13:08:10.000 1518181563 1 2669342.msg29300364 1141229 1495332 2018-02-09 13:06:03.000 I've seen this happen before, but now it is a (very minor) issue, since we have to merge files. The above 9 TXs should be in both files. I tried to check some of the messages and they are probably deleted messages. Nevertheless, as with all Merit.txt files, the TX should remain in the file. Any idea why this happens to those 9 TXs ? Title: Re: Goodbye to Merit History... Post by: TheBeardedBaby on May 25, 2018, 07:45:01 AM Yeah, my first merit (from 24th of Jan) is now in the History , gone.
Good that I have a back-up and I was thinking to make a thread to keep track on the merit and also for reference. Time flies .... Quote January 24, 2018, 11:46:59 PM: 1 from poptok1 for Re: What is the function of the "Merit" score? Title: Re: Goodbye to Merit History... Post by: TMAN on May 25, 2018, 08:00:35 AM So now is the time the scammers with a slight amount of intelligence are found out. The guys who noticed the 120 day limit will now start trading back the merits they received... luckily the detectives have the data dump
Title: Re: Goodbye to Merit History... Post by: LoyceV on May 25, 2018, 08:37:41 AM The weird thing I've found are a set of 9 Txs that were in last week's file and not on this weeks, belonging to the common period: I checked all time stamps, and they all show up in this weeks's data file.~ Any idea why this happens to those 9 TXs ? Title: Re: Goodbye to Merit History... Post by: Thirdspace on May 25, 2018, 08:50:07 AM If you want a complete list of merit entries, you now need to keep your own historical records. is there a way around to make archive.is able to capture my merit page? it seems that merit page can only be viewed by registered users only, any reason for this? It would be great if theymos can change so viewing the page does not require login Title: Re: Goodbye to Merit History... Post by: DdmrDdmr on May 25, 2018, 08:52:53 AM I checked all time stamps, and they all show up in this weeks's data file. Thanks, I think I know what's going on with them: time amount msg user_from user_to 1526466697 1 4097266.msg37354230 1192397 209286 1526427398 1 4075132.msg37378125 452769 1168027 1526417463 1 3979143.msg37390368 1160524 1012481 1526412210 1 4075132.msg37378125 1627661 1168027 1526403535 2 4032536.msg37344086 234915 501852 1526391452 2 4032536.msg37344086 1765178 501852 1523884328 2 4169555.msg34758186 974425 668651 1518181690 1 4029745.msg29300364 1141229 1495332 1518181563 1 4029745.msg29300364 1141229 1495332 The timestamp is in the current file as you say, but the messageID has changes from one file to the other. The first record (4097266.msg37354230) still exists and reading the post seems to have moved section. The remaining 8 are now deleted (propably after moving them first). I'm using as a conceptual PK all the fields in the record, not just the time, therefore showing those records in the new file as non-existant in relation to last week's file. I checked and there are 499 cases of timestamps with 2 or more associated TXs in the file, therefore going for the complete record PK. Edit: What this entails is that changes to records older than 120 days may not be consistent in our ALT aggregate databases. For example, as seen above, some merited TXs may change section or get deleted, but the ALT aggregate database will still point to the original message once the TX is outside of the 120 window frame. It should be a minor issue, since in a week only 9 awarded Txs have suffered a change of associated message Id. Just a bug for accuracy, but not a problem on the whole. Title: Re: Goodbye to Merit History... Post by: mocacinno on May 25, 2018, 08:55:28 AM If you want a complete list of merit entries, you now need to keep your own historical records. is there a way around to make archive.is able to capture my merit page? it seems that merit page can only be viewed by registered users only, any reason for this? It would be great if theymos can change so viewing the page does not require login there are ways around this... Code: curl 'https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=".$uid."' -H 'accept-encoding: gzip, deflate, br' -H 'accept-language: en-US,en;q=0.9' -H 'upgrade-insecure-requests: 1' -H 'user-agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Ubuntu Chromium/64.0.3282.167 Chrome/64.0.3282.167 Safari/537.36' -H 'accept: text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,image/webp,image/apng,*/*;q=0.8' -H 'referer: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=unreadreplies' -H 'authority: bitcointalk.org' ".$cookie." -H 'if-modified-since: Thu, 22 Mar 2018 14:20:56 GMT' --compressed > output.html The only thing you need are the cookies of a logged in session, you'll probably need to refresh this cookie every hour, and you shouldn't make more than 30 requests/minute ;) Even bypasses cloudflare Title: Re: Goodbye to Merit History... Post by: Emilyearl on May 25, 2018, 09:39:55 AM Many people have the merit statistical analysis backed up somewhere. Something like this shouldn't be allowed to just wipe away like that. It has to be preserved so that in time to come, if the merit system persists one can look back and say when merit was first introduced, it was like or like that.
Title: Re: Goodbye to Merit History... Post by: DdmrDdmr on May 25, 2018, 10:00:13 AM Many people have the merit statistical analysis backed up somewhere. Something like this shouldn't be allowed to just wipe away like that. It has to be preserved so that in time to come, if the merit system persists one can look back and say when merit was first introduced, it was like or like that. There's alway this (took me sometime to retrieve the reference, but I had it in the back of my mind): Mainly I do these date-limitation things just because it's always a massive pain to add pagination to things... For the data dumps, I've been thinking that I might provide historical data (across multiple files), though. So the current design of the forum does not seem to facilitate paging on our Merit History track. Title: Re: Goodbye to Merit History... Post by: MountainConqueror on May 25, 2018, 10:39:04 AM In my opinion merit is needed for bounty hunters only, if you're visiting that forum for chatting only there is no difference if you're a Member or a Hero.
Anyway I predict a tons of whine in next couple of days ;D Title: Re: Goodbye to Merit History... Post by: mobilazy on May 25, 2018, 01:04:06 PM I wish initial merits be gone along with history after 120 days. Now we'll see wave 2 of initial merits "distribution".
Who else got fooled by the title? ;D Title: Re: Goodbye to Merit History... Post by: LoyceV on May 25, 2018, 01:48:56 PM The timestamp is in the current file as you say, but the messageID has changes from one file to the other. The first record (4097266.msg37354230) still exists and reading the post seems to have moved section. The remaining 8 are now deleted (propably after moving them first). This is annoying :P I use this to add new lines to my old file:Code: comm -1 -3 <(sort merit.all.txt) <(sort merit.today.txt) > merit.new.txt But, this indeed fails on the lines you've mentioned: Code: 1526466697 1 45212.msg37354230 1192397 209286 Code: 1650. 18 Merit received by aleix (#209286) from 3 unique users in 9 transactions Quote I checked and there are 499 cases of timestamps with 2 or more associated TXs in the file, therefore going for the complete record PK. Some of these can be explained by double clicking (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3078328.msg31968794#msg31968794) the Merit button, like these:Two times 1 Merit from Syndikat (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1175060) to undercomander13 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1160144) for this post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2308384.msg23419008#msg23419008). Two times 4 Merit from minerbro (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=882756) to Piston_82 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1144425) for this post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2699379.msg28859651#msg28859651). ~more~ What this entails is that changes to records older than 120 days may not be consistent in our ALT aggregate databases. I'm not sure yet how to fix my "all time copy" of theymos' data. I don't really mind of a few links are incorrect, but the amounts should add up exactly. I think I just have to find where the files overlap and copy it without using the comm (https://www.systutorials.com/docs/linux/man/1-comm/) command.For example, as seen above, some merited TXs may change section or get deleted, but the ALT aggregate database will still point to the original message once the TX is outside of the 120 window frame. Title: Re: Goodbye to Merit History... Post by: TheBeardedBaby on May 25, 2018, 02:23:50 PM @LoyceV, can you check my profile according your "all time data" if my merit stats are correct? Trying to troubleshoot a problem here so it will be useful to know if there is something wrong with the data dumps.
Title: Re: Goodbye to Merit History... Post by: botany on May 25, 2018, 02:43:35 PM All good things must come to an end. Today marks 120 days since the merit system was introduced, and as Theymos said, old entries are going to start dropping off the file: https://bitcointalk.org/merit.txt.xz If you want a complete list of merit entries, you now need to keep your own historical records. Oldest entries (120+ days) will also start disappear off of individual merit pages. Vod - This is why we need the Bitcoin Public Information Project. :) Wouldn't it contain a full record? Title: Re: Goodbye to Merit History... Post by: DdmrDdmr on May 25, 2018, 04:14:39 PM <...> Until now, what I did was a full load of the complete merit.txt file, since it was self-sufficient and covered all the lifespan of the Merit System (so each load discarded the previous). I load the data files into a RDBMS (my unix/linux memory is too distant these days).Seen what we’ve seen today, the tactics for loading the data will be as follows: 1. Load the new merit.txt file into a table. 2. Insert into the new table all the records from the previous load’s table that do not exist in the new table (comparing by time, msg, user_from, user_to) and with a timestamp <= min(timestamp) in new file. That is, from the old file, only retrieve records that are outside the window timeframe of the newly received file. The 9 registers we’ve been talking about before are in the new file (although with different msg Ids than in last week’s file), so placing the above stated timestamp condition assures that I’ll keep the latest msgId. Having done the above, the aggregate totals are as follows (for anyone who wants to compare): nMerit nTx nFrom nTo minDate maxDate 159.076 71.427 14.143 15.755 2018-01-24 22:12:21.000 2018-05-25 02:45:40.000 I broke it down by week and compared it to my reports of the kind. All the historical static weeks coincide in values, so the process is fine. As I said before, what we will lose, whatever we do, is the track of the msg Ids that change for a given Tx outside the 120 day window. So for example, if a merited post gets moved or deleted after 120 days, the cumulative file has no way of knowing that since the Tx does not update in the weekly file. The deviation should be very small and pretty much ignorable (unless anyone goes bonkers and starts to move/delete things heavily after 120 days). The deviation should only be in terms of the post msg Id (when aggregating by Forum Section for example), but should not budge on the aggregate user’s balance. I’ve seen the timestamp again and there are cases of both double-clicks, as well as simultaneous meriting over the forum. Title: Re: Goodbye to Merit History... Post by: DdmrDdmr on May 25, 2018, 04:24:13 PM @LoyceV, can you check my profile according your "all time data" if my merit stats are correct? Trying to troubleshoot a problem here so it will be useful to know if there is something wrong with the data dumps. From what I have in my data you've got:NumTx sMeritSent 63 68 NumTx sMeritReceived 94 184 Let's see if it is the same as LoyceV's in order to contrast. Title: Re: Goodbye to Merit History... Post by: coinlocket$ on May 25, 2018, 04:41:11 PM Luckly we can keep tracking offline but it's sad that now we can't see merit under the profile of the user.
@OP. If you wrote the title as "Goodbye to Merit" omitting the word History, this thread would has done endless visualizations! ;D Title: Re: Goodbye to Merit History... Post by: TheBeardedBaby on May 25, 2018, 04:54:03 PM @LoyceV, can you check my profile according your "all time data" if my merit stats are correct? Trying to troubleshoot a problem here so it will be useful to know if there is something wrong with the data dumps. From what I have in my data you've got:NumTx sMeritSent 63 68 NumTx sMeritReceived 94 184 Let's see if it is the same as LoyceV's in order to contrast. Thanks man. We have to see what LoyceV has as info then i need to troubleshoot the problem. Title: Re: Goodbye to Merit History... Post by: DdmrDdmr on May 25, 2018, 04:58:02 PM <...> We have to see what LoyceV has as info then i need to troubleshoot the problem. Ok, we'll wait for that and move on from there. If you need the TXs it's easy to get them, but I'm not sure you'll want them posted on the thread (for no particular reason, just because it's kind of like disecting you on the thread ... ;)). Title: Re: Goodbye to Merit History... Post by: atliens99 on May 25, 2018, 05:02:53 PM Terrible history should be permanent, a lot of merit abusers are going to get away with evil doings.
Title: Re: Goodbye to Merit History... Post by: digaran on May 25, 2018, 06:09:08 PM Terrible history should be permanent, a lot of merit abusers are going to get away with evil doings. Some of the merit sources are also using their sMerits source for personal use, such as meriting anybody who agrees with them in their posts. evil doings are every where man. ;) Title: Re: Goodbye to Merit History... Post by: bitmover on May 25, 2018, 06:28:13 PM All good things must come to an end. Today marks 120 days since the merit system was introduced, and as Theymos said, old entries are going to start dropping off the file: https://bitcointalk.org/merit.txt.xz If you want a complete list of merit entries, you now need to keep your own historical records. Oldest entries (120+ days) will also start disappear off of individual merit pages. This is sad. Merit could be like the blockchain, all merit transactions recorded forever :D Title: Re: Goodbye to Merit History... Post by: apoorvlathey on May 25, 2018, 08:20:45 PM Why was there a 120 day limit put on it? theymos had already stated somewhere that it was to avoid the problems that would arise due to pagination on merit pages as merit transactions of each user increases. is there a way around to make archive.is able to capture my merit page? it seems that merit page can only be viewed by registered users only, any reason for this? It would be great if theymos can change so viewing the page does not require login Yeah, archive.is would not work because merit pages are not available to non-logged-in users. It was because Merit history of users doesn't serve any purpose for the public so it can't be viewed. Although as wanted to use archive.is to backup your stats, you could instead download the Merit dumps file occasionally here : https://bitcointalk.org/merit.txt.xz (https://bitcointalk.org/merit.txt.xz) Title: Re: Goodbye to Merit History... Post by: LoyceV on May 26, 2018, 01:07:29 PM @LoyceV, can you check my profile according your "all time data" if my merit stats are correct? Trying to troubleshoot a problem here so it will be useful to know if there is something wrong with the data dumps. With last Friday's data:Earned: Code: 87. 184 Merit received by iasenko (#1291828) from 67 unique users in 94 transactions Code: 434. 68 Merit sent by iasenko (#1291828) to 55 unique users in 63 transactions What are you're trying to troubleshoot? Assuming you started with 10 Merit airdrop, this looks okay to me. Until now, what I did was a full load of the complete merit.txt file, since it was self-sufficient and covered all the lifespan of the Merit System (so each load discarded the previous). I tried to prepare for the 120 days limit. Well, that didn't work :PQuote That is, from the old file, only retrieve records that are outside the window timeframe of the newly received file. This is what I will do. It's only a bit more work.Title: Re: Goodbye to Merit History... Post by: TheBeardedBaby on May 27, 2018, 07:45:40 PM @LoyceV, can you check my profile according your "all time data" if my merit stats are correct? Trying to troubleshoot a problem here so it will be useful to know if there is something wrong with the data dumps. With last Friday's data:Earned: Code: 87. 184 Merit received by iasenko (#1291828) from 67 unique users in 94 transactions Code: 434. 68 Merit sent by iasenko (#1291828) to 55 unique users in 63 transactions What are you're trying to troubleshoot? Assuming you started with 10 Merit airdrop, this looks okay to me.. Yeah seems fine to me too. My BPIP stats are wrong, so I'm trying to find why. That's why I was asking, thanks. :) Title: Re: Goodbye to Merit History... Post by: r1s2g3 on May 28, 2018, 05:23:31 AM <...> Until now, what I did was a full load of the complete merit.txt file, since it was self-sufficient and covered all the lifespan of the Merit System (so each load discarded the previous). I load the data files into a RDBMS (my unix/linux memory is too distant these days).Seen what we’ve seen today, the tactics for loading the data will be as follows: 1. Load the new merit.txt file into a table. 2. Insert into the new table all the records from the previous load’s table that do not exist in the new table (comparing by time, msg, user_from, user_to) and with a timestamp <= min(timestamp) in new file. That is, from the old file, only retrieve records that are outside the window timeframe of the newly received file. The 9 registers we’ve been talking about before are in the new file (although with different msg Ids than in last week’s file), so placing the above stated timestamp condition assures that I’ll keep the latest msgId. Having done the above, the aggregate totals are as follows (for anyone who wants to compare): nMerit nTx nFrom nTo minDate maxDate 159.076 71.427 14.143 15.755 2018-01-24 22:12:21.000 2018-05-25 02:45:40.000 I broke it down by week and compared it to my reports of the kind. All the historical static weeks coincide in values, so the process is fine. As I said before, what we will lose, whatever we do, is the track of the msg Ids that change for a given Tx outside the 120 day window. So for example, if a merited post gets moved or deleted after 120 days, the cumulative file has no way of knowing that since the Tx does not update in the weekly file. The deviation should be very small and pretty much ignorable (unless anyone goes bonkers and starts to move/delete things heavily after 120 days). The deviation should only be in terms of the post msg Id (when aggregating by Forum Section for example), but should not budge on the aggregate user’s balance. I’ve seen the timestamp again and there are cases of both double-clicks, as well as simultaneous meriting over the forum. I am putting my solution in image, because cloudfare is not allowing me to write sql's command in post. https://imgur.com/a/Mvxc1El Title: Re: Goodbye to Merit History... Post by: LoyceV on May 28, 2018, 11:35:03 AM I am putting my solution in image, because cloudfare is not allowing me to write sql's command in post. Please report this to theymos (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2614247.msg26620438#msg26620438), so he can fix it.The weird thing I've found are a set of 9 Txs that were in last week's file and not on this weeks, belonging to the common period: When I compare my previous result to my new result, I have 143 lines less.time amount msg user_from user_to converted_date 1526466697 1 45212.msg37354230 1192397 209286 2018-05-16 10:31:37.000 1526427398 1 3297659.msg37378125 452769 1168027 2018-05-15 23:36:38.000 1526417463 1 1747305.msg37390368 1160524 1012481 2018-05-15 20:51:03.000 1526412210 1 3297659.msg37378125 1627661 1168027 2018-05-15 19:23:30.000 1526403535 2 2671650.msg37344086 234915 501852 2018-05-15 16:58:55.000 1526391452 2 2671650.msg37344086 1765178 501852 2018-05-15 13:37:32.000 1523884328 2 3315165.msg34758186 974425 668651 2018-04-16 13:12:08.000 1518181690 1 2669342.msg29300364 1141229 1495332 2018-02-09 13:08:10.000 1518181563 1 2669342.msg29300364 1141229 1495332 2018-02-09 13:06:03.000 I've seen this happen before, but now it is a (very minor) issue, since we have to merge files. The above 9 TXs should be in both files. I tried to check some of the messages and they are probably deleted messages. Nevertheless, as with all Merit.txt files, the TX should remain in the file. The previous result double counted all instances where the message ID changed for the next week. My new list only adds the new entries to the previous total. I'd like to compare data later on, it would be nice to confirm having exactly the same totals. I didn't expect the difference to be this large. For reference, these lines are now gone: Code: 1526466697 1 4097266.msg37354230 1192397 209286 Title: Re: Goodbye to Merit History... Post by: DdmrDdmr on May 28, 2018, 03:10:26 PM <...> Not quite.. The union will not resolve the situation where by a post changes it's message Id on two distinct files (like the 9 cases I stated). The result will be having the same post's merit counted twice for the user (once for the old msgId and once for the new one). That's why we need to play around with the window timeframes of each of the files being integrated.You’re right about the SQL.. I've tried with various queries and some are postable while others are not. I tried both with and without the "code" header and "/code" footer with the same result. About a month ago I managed to post SQL without any trouble (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3380469.msg35500202#msg35500202). I can still edit and preview that post, so the Cloudfare tries to avoid sql injection but does not seem cover all SQL cases. Title: Re: Goodbye to Merit History... Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on May 28, 2018, 04:27:41 PM In general I think the forum would be fine even if the window for recording merit transactions was even smaller, since it's so much of a gray area as to whether abusers are going to get tagged. Much of the tagging that actually has been done was done pretty efficiently (I think) and there have even been several threads dedicated to catching abusers. So I'm not mourning the loss of that data.
If it was standard to red-trust these people, that would be a different story--but this is another example of how Theymos has endorsed basically a hands-off approach. Title: Re: Goodbye to Merit History... Post by: jeromix on May 28, 2018, 04:37:05 PM Which means merits could be send again to the other account of a high rank order to his new made account to rank up easily. I have been observing those few accounts with low rank and gets high merit. And most of them are just from someone that is generous enough giving the merits and which mostly likely we could think that it is his/her second account. And the problem is that i could not see a good post for it to be given by merits. So sad that only those who are earlier who join in forum benefited well on the merit system.
Title: Re: Goodbye to Merit History... Post by: shilpyh on May 29, 2018, 01:27:14 AM This system will be helpful for the people who farm their accounts and also who sell merit. If it stays at-least 1 year then many a farming accounts as well as merit sellers/abusers will be caught. As a result there will be proper use of merit. And then merit abusers will not show dare to abuse their merit.
Title: Re: Goodbye to Merit History... Post by: Wasii on June 20, 2018, 02:46:17 PM This system will be helpful for the people who farm their accounts and also who sell merit. If it stays at-least 1 year then many a farming accounts as well as merit sellers/abusers will be caught. As a result there will be proper use of merit. And then merit abusers will not show dare to abuse their merit. any link to thread for giveaways merits Title: Re: Goodbye to Merit History... Post by: DdmrDdmr on June 20, 2018, 03:09:34 PM <...> There are no give-away merit threads. There are those that, within a certain range of rules placed by the OP, facilitate users to post their candidate posts to that effect. Before you can even have a chance to get merits you need to browse the forum, use the search function, and invest time into understanding what may be merited and what never will. any link to thread for giveaways merits I for one will not direct you at this stage to the threads I mentioned, since right now both you and the thread owner would be wasting your time. By the way, the topic here is the loss of merit history older than 120 days. Your question has nothing to do with the topic and does not build on it. Wrong move. Better to look in the (beg)giner’s section to start with. Meta is not the appropiate starting point. |