Bitcoin Forum

I have one of the "older" model b Pis with 256 mb ram, I think many others too. Will they also be able to mine this?

I would not recommend a 256MB Raspberry Pi for the client software today.  However, with additional memory optimizations it may prove a viable platform at some time in the future.

A 256MB Pi is perfectly adequate to reserve a spot in the genesis block.

I've ordered a bunch of raspberries in anticipation of this.

Yeah, skyrocket... NXT!

another POS coin... i am in

Finally something for my RaspberryPI :D

Each Bitcointalk account may only register one Raspberry Pi for inclusion in genesis block.  Any more, and you may get caught by the taint analysis and refused.

EDIT: There will be no additional taint analysis.  One Raspberry Pi to one Bitcointalk account will be the method for acquiring stake in initial distribution

Ok, thx. I love the idea !

 Will you limit newbie accounts somehow?

Just bought a Raspberry Pi exclusively for this, can't wait.  ;D

My Raspberry Pi ready ^ ^

what about my odroid ????? http://www.hardkernel.com/main/main.php (http://www.hardkernel.com/main/main.php)

I like the idea of using an energy efficent machine, but there are tons of other devices besides the raspberry pi, some with even lower power consumption and it doesn't really make sense to exclude those. Though it would make the initial distribution much more complicated.

This is a very interesting project. I wish you success!!!

Newbie accounts will be treated no differently than established accounts.  Each account will require an additional Raspberry Pi to register, and registrations will include a number of checks to help ensure minimal 'cheating'.  Some pieces of the 'taint analysis' will be left secret to dissuade people trying to register on more than one account.

To explain the genesis registration more completely:

• On February 14th, a Raspberry Pi SD image will be released for registration purposes
• Each interested user must download the image and flash it onto a SD card -- this SD card is used to boot the Raspberry Pi
• On Raspberry Pi boot, the user will be asked for a Bitcointalk user account
• The user account, unique Raspberry Pi CPU serial number, IP address, and timestamp will be transmitted to an online database server which will house all registration entrants
• All user accounts, CPU serial numbers, and IP addresses must be unique in order to be granted the funds from genesis block
• Once valid information has been passed to the database server, it will reply with a 20-digit alpha passcode on the terminal -- this is YOUR VERIFICATION CODE.
  
• Each user must then send me a PM with the validation code to complete the authentication process

Discovered attempts at manipulation will be refused for inclusion in genesis block.


EDIT: One Raspberry Pi to one Bitcointalk account will be the method for acquiring stake in initial distribution

For genesis intiial distribution, it must be a Raspberry Pi.

Raspberry Pi will be the only OFFICIAL distribution, at least in the short term.  Long term, we will consider additional hardware offerings as long as they match security and power efficiency goals of the project.

Additional platforms can always be supported as third party offerings.

I give an 'A' for originality on a PoS launch.  Just ordered my Raspberry Pi.

I'm proud to announce that PiNX is now part of the KLONE::Family of NXT Clones!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=423647.0

What does this mean for PiNX?

• PiNX will share our work within the KLONE family to ensure a healthy ecosystem for ALL NXT clones
• PiNX gains support and expertise from the other members of the KLONE family.
• We are STRONGER TOGETHER than we are alone

seems very simple and cheap. i like that

most interesting ipo method for a pos coin yet.
interested

i am interested in PINX  :), and from china

in ... running on RPI could make this really easy to point of sale mass distribute.

1/2000000  ::)

Ok guys, now I want to know more about the initial distribution.
So everything I need is to tell the UNIQUE Raspberry Pi serial number but is there a limit to the number of Raspberry I can register for PiNX ?
Tell me so I won't buy too many of them.
Also, we can exchange the coin with anyone ? No need of Raspberry right ?

It is a really cool idea to promote power efficient computer. I love it.

can you put a link to the exact model
eg

http://raspberrypi.rsdelivers.com/product/rs/pi-bsd/raspberry-pi-type-b-with-8gb-sd-card/7858654.aspx (http://raspberrypi.rsdelivers.com/product/rs/pi-bsd/raspberry-pi-type-b-with-8gb-sd-card/7858654.aspx)

or

http://raspberrypi.rsdelivers.com/product/raspberry-pi/raspberry-pi-type-b/raspberry-pi-type-b-single-board-computer-512mb/7568308.aspx
 (http://raspberrypi.rsdelivers.com/product/raspberry-pi/raspberry-pi-type-b/raspberry-pi-type-b-single-board-computer-512mb/7568308.aspx)

can we just install the software without having to change the image on the sd card ? Im using my raspberry to run 6 jalapenos and I would like to keep the miners running...

Get your rasp pi's before the vendors start jacking up the prices.  Like the GPU's.

I'm in :)

Got 1 RPi.. Would order 10 more :)

I already have a raspberry so I am definitely in!

Yes, there is a limit to the number of Raspberry Pi you can register -- one.  See https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=424202.msg4628420#msg4628420

Time will tell for exchange with non-Raspberry Pi holders.  Theoretically, the client software will run on any computer which supports Java, however the official distribution will only support Raspberry Pi.

EDIT: One Raspberry Pi to one Bitcointalk account will be the method for acquiring stake in initial distribution

Mmm, yummies -- I like it!  Name reserved for fractional denominations.  (0.0001 PiNX == 1 Yummie, or something like that :D)

The amount each individual will get is dependent on the number of stakeholders who sign up during the registration period, which runs from February 14th to March 23rd.

Your stake will equal:
1,000,000,000 / # of initial stakeholders.

Im in :). Still got around 3 raspiiis which aren't used so far ;).

i am interesed
I have 3 raspberry and more 3 IP, I can participate x3 or just 1 par user ?

The links you posted only differ in that one includes an SD card, and one does not.  The 512MB Model B hardware is the one you want.

If you're just getting started with the Raspberry Pi, I recommend checking out 'Starter Kit' bundles.  Usually a starter kit will include, at minimum: Raspberry Pi, power adapter, SD card and case.  Some starter kits may include more.

You will also need an ethernet cable, USB keyboard and mouse, monitor, and cable for monitor (HDMA or RCA video)

Some places you can pick up a starter kit:
(these links do not represent endorsement, just examples to get you pointed in the right direction)

http://www.amazon.com/CanaKit-Raspberry-Complete-Original-Preloaded/dp/B008XVAVAW/
http://www.mcmelectronics.com/product/RASPBERRY-PI-RASPBRRY-PCBA-/83-14275
http://www.newark.com/raspberry-pi/raspberry-pi-starter-kit/model-b-starter-kit/dp/72W4007
http://www.maplin.co.uk/p/raspberry-pi-board-and-starter-kit-r45pi
http://www.makershed.com/Raspberry_Pi_Starter_Kit_p/msrpik.htm
http://www.adafruit.com/products/1014


Hope this helps!

EDIT: Starter kit bundles usually include a Raspberry Pi, too :D

Just one per person, please.

See https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=424202.msg4628420#msg4628420

I wish to make it VERY CLEAR:
Attempts to register multiple times will very likely be caught and you will be refused entry into genesis block.  Computer systems, networks, and peripherals contain many 'fingerprints', which will be used for taint detection.

Please respect the goal for equitable distribution.

Note: The PiNX user gets ZERO share.  Why?  This is a sock puppet.  My main account will get the same share as everyone else.


EDIT: One Raspberry Pi to one Bitcointalk account will be the method for acquiring stake in initial distribution

Im in ;)
Rly good for my microPC ;D

holy cannoly, just bought a rasp for an art project. so I'm ready  ;D

Step by step instructions would be great. I have no idea what to do after purchasing the starter kit. Or even when to do so

...or u will be punished

http://www.drsharma.ca/wp-content/uploads/punishment.jpg

The PiNX currency is just as real as any other Nxt clone at this stage.  Still much work to be done, and there is a inherent risk in getting involved so early.

The project is real -- I want to make it happen.  I believe in the equitable distribution model, I believe in power efficient platform, I believe in the enhanced security in running on a dedicated Linux platform, and I believe in sharing my work.

The PiNX project is based upon open source ideals, and is friendly to our parent currency NXT.  All of our work will be shared so that NXT and its clones can copy or reproduce.

First "2nd gen" coin that got my attention! :D

Interested!

BTW, why can a newbie post here? ???

Why not?  When the time is right, I expect to see a lot of newbie's here.  Promotion around the web had not started since there is nothing yet to promote.

Each gets equal Yummie?  Emm~~ Sounds Good!
Just order a pi B and a SD card.

I just noticed the titles of us changed.  I'm newbie now.... Umm   ??? ???

What if more than one person in one household have accounts in this forum and pis they want to use for this?

How will you figure out if a account is a sock puppet or an indivdual?

Your points are valid and well taken.  I am open to suggestions.

The easiest answer that I can see is to stick to a 1 Raspberry Pi to 1 Bitcointalk account paradigm.  This opens the door to allow the same person with multiple accounts AND multiple Raspberry Pi's to gain additional initial stake equity.

Part of me says, 'so be it'.  It is the simplest solution, and requires a larger commitment.

What do you guys think? Is there a good way to solve this problem? Is 1 Pi to 1 account fair?


EDIT: One Raspberry Pi to one Bitcointalk account will be the method for acquiring stake in initial distribution

From a previous post, it was mentioned the IP address will also be used to identify uniqueness -- to keep it limited to one individual at a time.  If that's still the case, some precautions can be taken to prevent people from using Tor, Hotspot Shield, Kiss, etc.  I know definitely that there are ways to detect if these tools are being used but do not know how.

I don't have any suggestions because I’m not an expert in such things I just want to add that this issue will also affect students in dormitories because I think that they all have the same IP. At least this is in Germany the case.
Maybe it is best to the use the described paradigm. 

The question is, will more Pis be good for the network? The answer should be yes, so it should be allowed. Though the number of Pis per IP should be limited, to prevent someone with easy access to a lot of Pis gaining an unfair advantage (universities, companies etc.)

You could check the uptime of the client so people can't just reconnect their router to get a new IP. Something like 'the client has to be online for at least 2/6/24/? hours uninterrupted to qualify for a stake.'

Excellent!

Bitcoin has its satoshis.
NXT has its beyoncés.
PiNX has its yummies!

Nice.

I wouldn't mind increasing the limit of 1 Pi per individual...

i dont think there are 2,000,000 people in BTC talk....so not sure how you are going to get 2,000,000 people in genesis block

What is the plan if the 2,000,000 person start isn't met? what if you only have 1,000 people? I'm sincerely interested in the coin but I'm also being realistic in thinking that it will be VERY difficult to get that many people to start.  I don't even know if 2,000,000 Pi's have been produced.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feeding_the_multitude

I'm in.

If 100% PoS, how is made the original distribution?
Have to stake on something.

----

edit:
After thinking for 2 minutes:
linking RasPi hardware to user login is very bad!
Pseudonymity is not perfect. No need to make it worst.
Linking hardware to username also link their IP and localisation.
I don't like that.

Use something NEM-like.
Earlier poster in this thread (with 10~20 minimum message) qualify for a share of the YUM (or PiNX unit).
Should not be a problem to split one's YUM in 2 to run 2 RasPi.
(It secure the network even more, perhaps. More decentralized)

I'd like OP return on this [distribution model & no-link].

----

more:
You wish to rely on a single hardware IP for distribution.
Point is for everyone to receive an even share I guess.
Using bitcointalk.org login seem more convenient than hardware ID.
At worst some will start mining/printing while other await for their RasPi to arrive.
I don't see that as a big problem.

Fairness is good to have in mind, but 2 millions people at start is just not realist...
Take 1000~4000 people. Already amazing.

I hope you are serious w/skill, and not delusional.
That's a great idea.

Yes Im in, when is the release date?

count me in too.  I have a Pi that i have not put to good use yet...

It's great to see so much interest in PiNX!

I've been working to get some things in place, and will have more information soon.  Hold tight and watch this thread for updates.

Here to answer some questions:


Yes, more Pis will be good for the network.  One Raspberry Pi per Bitcointalk account will be the method for distribution of original stake.  IP addresses or other 'fingerprints' will not be checked.




LOL, agreed!  2,000,000 is unrealistic.  Point of emphasis is to include as many people in original distribution as possible, nothing more.



Stake is a Raspberry Pi.



Nothing is perfect, and Proof-of-Stake distribution is difficult without some level of trust.  All that will be collected is Raspberry Pi CPU serial number and Bitcointalk user account.  Source code will be available for the registration program before release.  Participation is voluntary, so if anything about the process makes you uncomfortable, you are welcome to skip this project.



Single IP has problems with large NAT networks, and MAC addresses can be faked.  Bitcointalk.org logins are easily spammed.  Use this account as an example.  The PiNX user was created specifically to launch this project.



My skills are centered around embedded Linux development, C programming, and Linux administration.  I am only slightly delusional tackling a project like this :)
I acknowledge that I will not be able to do everything that is required for this project, and will require community support.



There is a tentative development schedule shared in the original post.  The only hard dates are Feb 14th to March 23rd -- This period will be genesis registration.  Some of the other dates are likely to shift around.  For instance, I expect to have a website in place before February 9th.



Watch this thread for now.

Is it unrealistic?

Is this being pushed on RPi forums and the like?

There are a lot of people who could be potentially introduced to crypto through the RPi.

Not yet.  I am going to wait to introduce to RPi forums, but plan to before February 14th genesis registration begins.

You're more than welcome to warm them up ahead of time ;)

Oh My God, 2,000,000 people ! This is a big thing  ;D

I'm in. But i have question.
RPi produced by several manufacturers (like EGOMAN). Which ones will be supported?

I'm in , and I have one Raspberry Pi !!!!

Very good question, thank you.

According to this: http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/tag/egoman, the EGOMAN version should be compatible.  Would be nice if someone could get their hands on one for testing.

Interested. I love raspberry pi. (syris.fr)

---

So, you've got your Raspberry Pi and waiting, wondering, what can you do to help?

    1. Turn it on.  Tinker, play, learn.  http://www.raspberrypi.org/ is the best place to start.

    2. PiNX will be a fork of Nxt.  Therefore installing and running the Nxt client is another good exercise in preparation.

               http://wiki.nxtcrypto.org/wiki/How-To:InstallNRSRaspberryPi

    3. Stay tuned :D

I just received my PI order.

So cute! 

I will try to use it tomorrow.

Actually I already have a  red version of RPi from EGOMAN  :)
Will be glad to participate in the test.

I'm interested and will buy a Pi for this  :)

Interested. Have Raspberry Pi on standby.

Hm, I might revive my Pi :) Interested.

I am interested too.

But I wonder how Pinx can send 2 million private messages to confirm registration?  ???

As I am not too confident in my skills, will it be possible to simply DL data, copy it on a SD card, plug it in a RasPi, plug power & ethernet cable = everything working?

Also will there be a time window for the original distribution?
I have no Raspi for now, and doubt I will have one in my hand in 2 weeks.
Maybe a month?

Some precision to not miss the 1st early adopter window would be great.

Lol, yep!


Brownie points for being double-interested.  Stake stays the same :)

---

Now, a brief status update:

• Interesteds aren't necessary anymore.  Enough interest has been shown.  I am active in development (will edit OP)
  
  • I expect to have an easy-to-use setup and configuration tool ready by end of the week

• Domain name has been established at http://www.pi-nx.org.  Nothing of consequence is in place

• Wiki established https://github.com/PiNX-Community/main/wiki.  Again, nothing of consequence is in place

• GitHub repositories have been initialized at https://github.com/PiNX-Community.  Again, nothing of consequence is in place
  
  • Everything will live in the GitHub repository with permissive licenses.
    
    • pinx-src  - where source code will live
    • PiNX-Community.github.io - website served from here
    • main - Home for Wiki

• Licenses have been selected
  
  • MIT for source code
  • Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 International for website and wiki
    
    • Can somebody knowledgeable of licensing reply if this is appropriate?
      

An FYI: The PiNX java client will be one of the last pieces of software to be finished.  Nxt source is scheduled for release in April, and it will be extremely tricky (if not impossible) to create a valid clone before then.  PiNX will exist as a pure fork of Nxt, so we will use the Nxt java client until then.

Marketing angle: A digital currency for Makers, by Makers.

Registration window: May be extended to allow outreach to the Maker community.

Framework is in place for community collaboration.  I'm not seeking help just yet but if you have any ideas, jump right in!

Hope to have easy-to-follow instructions for all commands.  Must be able to login to set some things up (so, you will need keyboard and monitory as well).


I'm looking at that.  Want to get many people involved.

now i need to get a rPi ;/

you know you are limiting yourself to rpi users only right? this will make your network very small....

Understood...  network size does not necessarily equate value.  What gives a currency true value is the ability to exchange it for goods or services.  

Many cyptocurrencies are valued only through speculation and marketing, if not downright manipulation.  Some will become rich, others poor -- the 'pump-and-dump' we see all too often on these boards.

PiNX does not strive to become such a currency.

I believe PiNX has the potential to have more real-world value than many cryptocurrencies today.  The Raspberry Pi community is larger, more committed, and more supportive than you may think.  Early outreach into these DIY communities will be crucial to the success of this project.

Tipping will be important.  See a fellow hobbyist with an informative blog, or project idea you like?  Throw him a few yummies!  Let him know you appreciate the work!

There are no illusions of grandeur here.  The day I can go to a small website and purchase a digital LED board for my Raspberry Pi using PiNX is the day that I consider this project a success.

I'm getting ready now! My pi has arrived and I have played with it. 

I understand that what I need do is just waiting. When the official img is released, I just need download and copy it to the sd card. Am I right?

It seems a nice start.

Love me some good raspberry nxt, I'm in :-)

interested

Excellent!

"Proof of Raspberry-Pi-Deployment", as previously outlined on page 2 of my "NXT: A Cybernetics Approach" research paper late last year - https://mega.co.nz/#!yYwD2ArL!aaalNHwQ_RveCKM4Z1x9w0hRI4U6y6119PxQg2-RRNA (https://mega.co.nz/#!yYwD2ArL!aaalNHwQ_RveCKM4Z1x9w0hRI4U6y6119PxQg2-RRNA).

I feel like Nostradamus!

Keep up the good work!

Regards,
Al

Edit: Interested!

"Buy a pre-built SD card, PLUG IT IN to your Raspberry Pi, TURN IT ON, enter your passphrase... DONE"

can you explain this.

buy from you?

I read Initial distribution by registering the UNIQUE Raspberry Pi serial number to a UNIQUE Bitcointalk user (via prepared custom Pi IMG, delivered February 14th)

so this mean we need to img this to the existing SD or to USB?

(Im not familair with Rpi, and assume you could boot an rus os from usb as well)

or do you mean some standard os that comes with the RPi?

I don't see how this works, as in you are providing a pregonfiged os???

If I choose to img, what size sd do I need?

can i get a larger sd than 8gb, is there any point?

do you envisage the rpi will have enough horse power spare to run pinx in the background?

That's a good idea

Is there a way starting the Rpi with the img and without a monitor?
Is it possible to set the logininformations?
It is not practical that you have to plug-in a monitor if you want to participate in the network.

Just ordered a Raspberry Pi, in other words, i'm in :)

I'm in, but only if it works with the first gen 256mb Raspberry Pi.

Many people have the 256mb version and it will be such a shame if you cut them out. Please either make the 256mb version be enough or make a cut down version for the 256mb.

Thanks.

doesn't nxt already run on Rpi????

so the advantage here is, distribution by serial number?

Been waiting for this :)

I'm in with several 512mb units (if that's allowed).

I'm in.

Sweet, my Raspi is just sitting collecting dust at the moment.

Any process?

I'd like to know too..

any updates from the author?

dev disappeared?

9 Feb--->  simple website?
14 Feb ----> IMG?


 ??? ??? ??? ??? ???

Dead project?

 [ANN] NXO :: descendant of NXT - - Design Donate and Earn Stake!- 1 Billion Coins
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=463208.0

User last active:

Last Active:    February 10, 2014, 08:44:08 PM

Yeah , I can hear the project moving fast and furios :)))

Looks dead.  Where's the pi IMG to use to register as a stakeholder?  Was suppose to be released today.

Very disappointing.

dead?

So what is going on now with this another NXT clone? I never anything from the dev since his last post. Does anyone knows if this project going to continue or not. What's your thought guys?

Now that an interesting idea!

Need to dust off my Pi :).

sounds cool, when we get more details about this project?

I like the idea behind this one so I am interested and in.

order a PI today, please count me in

Well, I'm interested.

Does it mean I need to buy a Raspberry Pi?

Every single one of these responses has been a joke, right?  I've never seen a forum with such a twisted sense of humor.

Got 2 Raspberry PIs waiting...

LOL ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

THE PROJECT IS DEAD GUYS !! :D :D

i still got me a raspberry pi to play with regardless :)

no updates for days..... any news form |PiNX.     

I have bought a PI today...................... ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???

Pi's might be used for NEM .

PiNX is a no-show.  Two-thumbs down for zero communication. Talk about a dud.

For details left unexplained, PiNX can’t lead this project.

In the end, all I have given you is a vision.  It is up to community to make that vision a reality.

Goodbye.

Interested! am i too late? i have a rasp 512mb.. Why no one told me about this thread earlier!

So PiNX is cancelled ?   Or has it never planned by you?  It's totally a cheat.
What you give us is only a lie? 
You made me believe you are a Pi's Salesman.   

You should at least modify the OP to show ppl PiNX is cancelled.

Only a Goodbye is not enough. 

You are SoB!

so you trolled all of us  :o

it's ok, now I have a raspberry pi on order and can't wait to play with it.

this encouraged me to order it and finally setup my own server.

either way, it was a nice idea

Just read
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=424202.msg5191410#msg5191410

We are played......... 

Guys, before you said "Interested" and bought a Pi , please read:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=424202.msg5191410#msg5191410

Obviously, we are played by a Pi's salesman!!!   >:( >:( >:(

wait, what did you just eject from the entire project

You are disappointed in me.  That is fair.

You highlight wrong words.


One person will not make or break this project.  If my departure causes vision to disappear, then so be it.

Now might be the time to reach out to Raspberry Pi communities.

- PiNX -

Why don't we get involved with NEM?

Also NXT can run on Rpi

lol - what a buffoon  :D :D

I'm In.... But is Canceled.

Ok so the concept is innovative but, the build it and they will come idea
seems to lack the support of a willing dev consortium.

I do like the idea though , and would love to see a programming thread on ideas to build it out , even if the coin is a just one more pos
the education could be invaluable.

100% Interest

Are you guys motivated to continue this project ? Nxt is open source, someone could adapt the code.

The idea still exist.

I like the idea of using an energy efficent machine, but there are tons of other devices besides the raspberry pi, some with even lower power consumption and it doesn't really make sense to exclude those. Though it would make the initial distribution much more complicated.