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Title: Is it a Whale attack on market price of cryptos?
Post by: robertcross07 on May 25, 2018, 01:30:27 PM
BTC price has fallen at a great number in last few days. I am really confused to give it a name. Is it a whale attack on the btc price. What is your thought? Please share your thought in the forum .


Title: Re: Is it a Whale attack on market price of cryptos?
Post by: Easteregg69 on May 25, 2018, 01:31:37 PM
Nahh. It's the good old up/down that comes as a surprise again.

Price was 2.446,24 USD per bitcoin one year ago.
 
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin/historical-data/?start=20170525&end=20180525

Whale attack.. Since when have whales attacked anything ?


Title: Re: Is it a Whale attack on market price of cryptos?
Post by: TheMeritedOne on May 25, 2018, 01:36:05 PM
Nahh. It's the good old up/down that comes as a surprise again.

Price was 2.446,24 USD per bitcoin one year ago.
 
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin/historical-data/?start=20170525&end=20180525

Thank you for the link.It is useful to check the historic data price.I find in internet that a whale has many coins. But how can they control the price in the market ? can you explain it a bit.


Title: Re: Is it a Whale attack on market price of cryptos?
Post by: Easteregg69 on May 25, 2018, 01:36:36 PM
Correction is the word.

Explain ? See it as a time machine. I spend one year in it. And comes back and tells you what to believe.

Someone got rich! Some of the ones that did not get rich got fucked over.. Probably well deserved.


Title: Re: Is it a Whale attack on market price of cryptos?
Post by: TooDumbForBitcoin on May 25, 2018, 01:41:20 PM
Nahh. It's the good old up/down that comes as a surprise again.

Price was 2.446,24 USD per bitcoin one year ago.
 
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin/historical-data/?start=20170525&end=20180525

Whale attack.. Since when have whales attacked anything ?


Don't you know the first rule? When you do not understand what to do\what was happen - try search a whales somewhere ;D


Title: Re: Is it a Whale attack on market price of cryptos?
Post by: Easteregg69 on May 25, 2018, 01:43:55 PM
First rule ? "The greatest favor you can do mankind is to shut the fuck up"..

In danish. "Den største tjeneste du kan gøre menneskeheden er at holde din kæft". Could translate to. "The greatest favor you can do mankind is to brush your teeth." Just to add some meaning.

So if some nigger goes. "Am i my brothers keeper?" Answer is definitely no.


Title: Re: Is it a Whale attack on market price of cryptos?
Post by: thefaucetrunner on May 25, 2018, 02:00:50 PM
If I had to give it a name, it would be "normal price action that happens everyday."


Title: Re: Is it a Whale attack on market price of cryptos?
Post by: jorgelugra on May 25, 2018, 02:05:57 PM
I think that maybe there is some point in your thoughts about the whale attack. However, I don't think that this fall will be for long and will result in something really serious. In my opinion, it will not fluctuate much soon


Title: Re: Is it a Whale attack on market price of cryptos?
Post by: Easteregg69 on May 25, 2018, 02:14:03 PM
Monty Python-Juniper Bush Clip
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCFBndlScBc

Shall be given what ?


Title: Re: Is it a Whale attack on market price of cryptos?
Post by: mrox2011 on May 25, 2018, 02:16:53 PM
This is a market ,so markets always go up & down. It's the nature of this.  :D


Title: Re: Is it a Whale attack on market price of cryptos?
Post by: Denker on May 25, 2018, 02:17:24 PM
BTC price has fallen at a great number in last few days. I am really confused to give it a name. Is it a whale attack on the btc price. What is your thought? Please share your thought in the forum .

Hard to say. Of course it could be the case that guys with lots of coins and money try to suppress the market, to accumulate as much as coins as possible.
For instance they could buy OTC some bigger batches, for a lower price if, and dump on exchanges while being short on spot and futures.
And every time they've reached their targeted price levels, they buy back in. There are a few more strategies they are probably using.
The market is so tiny, manipulating it when you have deep pockets is not that difficult.
I'm not saying that this is happening right now. I'm just saying it is possible and probably happened in the past.


Title: Re: Is it a Whale attack on market price of cryptos?
Post by: Mr.Dick on May 25, 2018, 02:17:58 PM
I guess we can't really tell... Only speculating but I think if there was a massive attack, the price would be lower..


Title: Re: Is it a Whale attack on market price of cryptos?
Post by: Kprawn on May 25, 2018, 02:19:33 PM
The first rule of Whale Club, is NEVER to talk about Whale Club!  ;D

Whales do not attack, they just swim through the market {ocean} and throw their weight around. They eat all the small

fish {The small newbies, that panic at the smallest volatility in the price} ....and they create one hell of a ripple, when they

do that.  ;)  Never hate the whales, they are gentle giants.  8)


Title: Re: Is it a Whale attack on market price of cryptos?
Post by: joebrook on May 25, 2018, 02:26:03 PM
This is a market ,so markets always go up & down. It's the nature of this.  :D
In this case I am sure that ththey market is being manipulated by the big whales in bitcoins. They are spreading FUD so that the faint hearted sell their bitcoins and then they get it a cheaper price.


Title: Re: Is it a Whale attack on market price of cryptos?
Post by: BitNaija on May 25, 2018, 02:33:33 PM
If we have accepted that bitcoin price goes up and comes down, then there is no cause for alarm. It is part of the game. It is TBC they say always go up and don't come down, not BTC.


Title: Re: Is it a Whale attack on market price of cryptos?
Post by: jhongzjhong on May 25, 2018, 02:34:44 PM
-snip-
Never hate the whales, they are gentle giants.  8)
Yes, you are right, if ever the whales are one of the reasons why bitcoin and altcoins are decreasing now, well, never hate them.

But I think I don't believe those whales that they are the reason for dumping cryptocurrency, it is a nature that has a fluctuation in the marketcap that's why there is up and down price movement. So, therefore what I mean is no one can control the price of bitcoin even big whale there is nothing to do.


Title: Re: Is it a Whale attack on market price of cryptos?
Post by: supermine on May 25, 2018, 02:36:23 PM
BTC price has fallen at a great number in last few days. I am really confused to give it a name. Is it a whale attack on the btc price. What is your thought? Please share your thought in the forum .
Maybe but who knows what is the exact reason.

It is better to buy some crypto currencies now hopefully the price will recover in the coming days.But I think this may not be the whales attack this is happening due to the short term holders who bought the currencies at $9500 or above when there is huge bump happened in few days now they are selling the cryptos to make money.


Title: Re: Is it a Whale attack on market price of cryptos?
Post by: Al-e_x on May 25, 2018, 02:36:50 PM
yes, some people say, this is a whale game, because they are in control of bitcoin prices. then also another bad factor makes bitcoin difficult to move and difficult to rise.

I think something that can stop the market game so the whales cannot move is a public volume that supports Bitcoin.

some people also predict that the whales are deadlocked, so whales cannot move, unless they save more assets.

this correction makes people confused.


Title: Re: Is it a Whale attack on market price of cryptos?
Post by: monarchy on May 25, 2018, 02:38:09 PM
Maybe Bitcoin Falls Due To More Bitcoin Usage In This Year So Bitcoin Falls But Maybe Bitcoin Will Also Rise In Next Year So Maybe It's The Right Time To Investate Back In bitcoin


Title: Re: Is it a Whale attack on market price of cryptos?
Post by: FuzzyBear on May 25, 2018, 02:38:21 PM
I think the 51% attack on BTG has been the cause for the drop in price over last few days / week. $18 million estimated to be stolen from exchanges, these exchanges will need to pay bills cover losses etc and people will jump ship on hearing this or maybe wait on investing further.

Again though it standard market price swings as everyone else suggesting

Fuzzybear


Title: Re: Is it a Whale attack on market price of cryptos?
Post by: LogitechMouse on May 25, 2018, 02:39:14 PM
Maybe yes, maybe no. For me, this is a normal massive correction only for bitcoin. Bitcoin is trying to retesting the Feb / April lows but now in a higher low. In April, it reached the 6800 mark and if it will retest it again maybe it will stop at 7k or below it. Going below the Feb / April lows will be devastating for bitcoin. Whales??? UHHHMMM maybe they have sold some of their bitcoins but not all. They are trying to buy the lows at this moment.


Title: Re: Is it a Whale attack on market price of cryptos?
Post by: BrewMaster on May 25, 2018, 03:29:44 PM
there has been a "whale attack" happening on bitcoin for some time now. but this attack is not taking place the way you think it is. instead it works like this: the whales get bigger each time you let them buy more bitcoin than you or when you sell your coins at the bottom because of panic to them. who do you think places those buy orders at the bottom waiting to fill their big whale bellies :D


Title: Re: Is it a Whale attack on market price of cryptos?
Post by: samarabtc on May 27, 2018, 03:38:59 AM
Its true in recent times this market facing some problems because some countries are banned crypto they feel it is illegal. For this reason people are afraid to invest on this market. It decreases the market price. But i think this situation will be change in recent time.


Title: Re: Is it a Whale attack on market price of cryptos?
Post by: iconternal on May 27, 2018, 03:45:01 AM
It is true that these days the bitcoin and other altcoins are experiencing a great decline and I believe that this is a whale attack to lower prices and buy at low prices.


Title: Re: Is it a Whale attack on market price of cryptos?
Post by: bigmaster23 on May 27, 2018, 05:05:04 AM
Big player (investor) of bitcoin quit supporting this crypto they change crypto on supporting such as eth and ltc so by that it really affect the price of bitcoin within the past two to three month, They will back on my intuition when the price of btc was about to 1k to 1.2k usd.


Title: Re: Is it a Whale attack on market price of cryptos?
Post by: jasydoggye on May 27, 2018, 07:00:51 AM
The price fall is very natural bitcoin and I don't think this ia a whale effect. If you compare the price with what it was last year you will see how much it has increased. Besides the prices were falling drastically at the begining of the year. It has increased much. For now this fall is not a thing to worry.


Title: Re: Is it a Whale attack on market price of cryptos?
Post by: Pursuer on May 27, 2018, 07:04:54 AM
there has been a lot of manipulation taking place in bitcoin market on exchanges for a couple of months now. my observation is that it started mainly at strength when price went below $10k for the first time and it has only grown ever since. so the one small drop in a day that OP saw is not a "whale attack" it is just a simple drop but it was caused by the same manipulation that has been going on. if you want to call that a "whale attack" then feel free to.


Title: Re: Is it a Whale attack on market price of cryptos?
Post by: maichimoto on May 27, 2018, 07:11:08 AM
BTC price has fallen at a great number in last few days. I am really confused to give it a name. Is it a whale attack on the btc price. What is your thought? Please share your thought in the forum .

I don't know what exactly is driving the prices down, as general atmosphere should be rather good, with all companies enetering blockchain industry proving the critics wrong.


Title: Re: Is it a Whale attack on market price of cryptos?
Post by: easybtcearn2017 on May 27, 2018, 07:11:27 AM
This might be a whale attack because there area lot of demands in the market and the market is growing gradually. But, according to that the price is not that growing. I think some people are having control over it. Some procedures should be taken to eradicate these whales.


Title: Re: Is it a Whale attack on market price of cryptos?
Post by: darksanya on May 27, 2018, 07:17:21 AM
whales have nothing to do with it. just a great demand passed. Accordingly, only those who are engaged in trade remained in the market. those people who just bought and waited, do not buy anymore. some sell and forget about the crypto, some wait for the moment when you can sell more expensive


Title: Re: Is it a Whale attack on market price of cryptos?
Post by: Rj Manik on May 27, 2018, 07:24:15 AM
I don’t think so.While I imagine that the moderate and continuous lessening of crypto costs is in an extensive part caused by previous venders in part re-entering the market, they are surely not going to return in all that they got the money for out, and this movement is likely going to decrease.With that happening, crypto is going to be falling faster.


Title: Re: Is it a Whale attack on market price of cryptos?
Post by: abelmon66 on May 27, 2018, 07:34:21 AM
It could happen that it was a whale attack, because I know with a huge price drop and make panic sell and after that the whales can buy with much at a cheap price.


Title: Re: Is it a Whale attack on market price of cryptos?
Post by: reflectcrypto on May 27, 2018, 11:58:50 PM
It is really hard to identify whether it is whale or not. But I think that price up/down is a common part of any financial part. And as a result, it moves up and down.


Title: Re: Is it a Whale attack on market price of cryptos?
Post by: NavI_027 on May 28, 2018, 12:39:08 AM
I don't have any clue either why the price seems stopping to grow. Bitcoin's price is now lower than the usual which supposed to be many investors will horde coins because these days are the best for buying, but why the price are not soaring high at least in a short period of time? This means that investors refuse to buy despite of a great opportunity? Sounds strange ???.

For this reason, i somehow believe that whales are controlling the market. Maybe they are waiting more a little longer before buying (just an opinion).


Title: Re: Is it a Whale attack on market price of cryptos?
Post by: garymorgen on May 28, 2018, 12:45:46 AM
i don't think so it's Whale attack on market price of cryptos. It's normal price up down to me as things happens in our market. so don't panic my mate. ::)


Title: Re: Is it a Whale attack on market price of cryptos?
Post by: Phantomberry on May 28, 2018, 12:46:16 AM
I think so whales are on watching mode they are ready to have a move to changes the price of crypto but they cannot manipulate bitcoin.


Title: Re: Is it a Whale attack on market price of cryptos?
Post by: gesdan on May 28, 2018, 12:51:39 AM
yes right now the price of bitcoin is going down, I don't know what happens with the bitcoin, but I think bitcoin price going down and going up is normal because if there are not changes price I think bitcoin is a crisis, the price of bitcoin going up and down shows me that bitcoin still have a demand and stock in the market


Title: Re: Is it a Whale attack on market price of cryptos?
Post by: rizkypurwati on May 28, 2018, 12:55:57 AM
BTC price has fallen at a great number in last few days. I am really confused to give it a name. Is it a whale attack on the btc price. What is your thought? Please share your thought in the forum .
big or small is relative in a trade, we need to understand the price down because of many factors and so on.
I think if there is a word that can describe this incident is a lightning strike during the day
for a moment to panic and then walk away


Title: Re: Is it a Whale attack on market price of cryptos?
Post by: ronsalwey9874 on May 28, 2018, 01:29:27 AM
Yes I will agree that the price of BTC has fallen down since last few days. But I think you should not lose hope because I believe that it is a down fall before a big movement. Soon the market price will rise up.


Title: Re: Is it a Whale attack on market price of cryptos?
Post by: harrypot on May 28, 2018, 06:26:36 AM
No. I dont think so that it is a whale attack. There is always ups and downs in crypto. So its a natural part of it. So dont get frustrated.


Title: Re: Is it a Whale attack on market price of cryptos?
Post by: rafi035 on May 28, 2018, 09:38:35 AM
BTC price has fallen at a great number in last few days. I am really confused to give it a name. Is it a whale attack on the btc price. What is your thought? Please share your thought in the forum .
bitcoin prices do have a drastic decline, but keep in mind and we can see from year ketahunnya bitcoin increase if we only see per day we will see the price drop


Title: Re: Is it a Whale attack on market price of cryptos?
Post by: inthelongrun on May 28, 2018, 09:58:45 AM
There is the possibilities of a whale attack but if this is the one that cause the dump then it won't take that long. That whale can cause some few panics and he will try again to buy at cheaper price. Rinse and repeat.


Title: Re: Is it a Whale attack on market price of cryptos?
Post by: cryptohoodz on May 28, 2018, 10:10:04 AM
Guess what, you never gonna find out.

Long term fundamental for bitcoin remain the same (limited supply, innovation will make it faster = lightning, it has not been hacked etc.).
I think its a combination; price manipulation (because it's not regulated yet) and less FOMO. Once the SEC (US regulators) starts to find and end at least end  some of the manipulators it might kickstart into a global regulatory framework. Nobody likes regulation, but in this case I think it's good because what's happening with the price right now (if we assume it's partially caused by manipulation) does not help to grow the entire crypto industry.

To put things in perspective; btc was 2k last year same period, so eeeh...we're not doing that bad :-)




Title: Re: Is it a Whale attack on market price of cryptos?
Post by: greenvally on May 28, 2018, 11:49:27 AM
I believe that possibly there is some point in your musings about the whale assault. Be that as it may, I don't imagine that this fall will be for long and will bring about something extremely genuine. As I would see it, it won't vacillate much soon. But the market will change soon.


Title: Re: Is it a Whale attack on market price of cryptos?
Post by: luigi3 on May 28, 2018, 11:56:06 AM
There are so many reasons why bitcoin or crypto price was getting down,like fud news or some news that indicating bitcoin was scam,and also as you said a big whales they really affecting the price of bitcoin if they sell or buy so im sure moving market its because of currently happening in our environment in crypto.


Title: Re: Is it a Whale attack on market price of cryptos?
Post by: aiviaa485 on June 11, 2018, 02:28:42 AM
if I do not believe in whales, because Bitcoin is owned by individuals. But it can be said yes this is the act of the Whale, because I see the market is in the pump and in the dump kn just like that. such as price manipulation by a particular group.

and many Cryptocurrency telegram groups say this is whale-shaped, so what else?
just enjoy your life with a cup of coffee, because Bitcoin knows where he is going to go :)