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Title: Can we send eth using 0 gas price
Post by: ch_mubarak on May 26, 2018, 02:08:36 AM
When i checked the ethereum blockchain some users doesn't pay even a penny for eth transaction they using 0 gas.How is this possible??

Check here.

https://etherscan.io/tx/0x173fd250d63a62bb407f214ff924b49e1c90593572eab1a8c523783f2aa58ba3


Title: Re: Can we send eth using 0 gas price
Post by: dumiya on May 26, 2018, 03:30:42 AM
You have to pay at least something. When you send ETH with very low GAS limit and GWEI it takes very long time to confirm your transaction. One of my ERC-20 token transaction which I initiated 3 months ago with 0.1 GWEI never confirmed the transaction. Miners always give the priority for the transactions with higher GAS limit and GWEI and confirm them.


Title: Re: Can we send eth using 0 gas price
Post by: rommelo24 on May 26, 2018, 03:35:53 AM
When i checked the ethereum blockchain some users doesn't pay even a penny for eth transaction they using 0 gas.How is this possible??
I think you must have missed something. Making ethereum transactions without any transaction fees is not possible as far as i know. Transaction fees serve as a reward for the miners so if no fees then no one will process your transaction.


Title: Re: Can we send eth using 0 gas price
Post by: carrigan on May 26, 2018, 03:47:51 AM
It seems to me quite impossible. During this time I don't think any transaction definitely need gas, though the amount is very little. If you did not use the gas, it looks like the transaction not processed aka. To date I have not found a way to be able to send coins without using gas. Definitely need gas, although the value can be very small.


Title: Re: Can we send eth using 0 gas price
Post by: a_ps on May 26, 2018, 03:52:51 AM
When i checked the ethereum blockchain some users doesn't pay even a penny for eth transaction they using 0 gas.How is this possible??
I think that you see it is the number of tokens / ETH sent, not the amount of GAS. Because ETH transactions will not be possible without GAS. So the answer is no, you can't transfer token/ETH with 0 GAS.


Title: Re: Can we send eth using 0 gas price
Post by: boakyei on May 26, 2018, 03:54:13 AM
You can't send a Ether without a gas price, even if the gas price is low than needed to fuel the transaction, it won't goes through. It will bounce back, yet your gas price which was low will burn just like that.


Title: Re: Can we send eth using 0 gas price
Post by: Jericka D Ranillo on May 26, 2018, 04:01:23 AM
Not really,  every transaction here in crypto via online such sending eth has a fee, maybe low or high. Seems what you saw has a very low decimal fee so look doesnt fee at all. But just I said there is a fee for every transaction. Fee is depend for the current gas price


Title: Re: Can we send eth using 0 gas price
Post by: Cemploon on May 26, 2018, 04:03:25 AM
all transactions in the crypto for shipping coins I think nothing is free. All need a charge, whether it be small or big. Maybe there is a way to be free. But my own for this send coins have always been exposed to the gas. Although the value of the gas reserves are indeed very small.


Title: Re: Can we send eth using 0 gas price
Post by: cryptogeek101 on May 26, 2018, 04:03:33 AM
When i checked the ethereum blockchain some users doesn't pay even a penny for eth transaction they using 0 gas.How is this possible??

Making Ethereum transaction without gas is like driving a car without gas which is not possible. Also for your transaction to be process the miners need to be paid a fee which comes from your gas limit or gas and the gas price. A transaction without gas is not possible in the Ethereum blockchain.


Title: Re: Can we send eth using 0 gas price
Post by: LemonF3 on May 26, 2018, 04:11:18 AM
When i checked the ethereum blockchain some users doesn't pay even a penny for eth transaction they using 0 gas.How is this possible??
I think this is not possible. You must have to pay for ETH transaction or shipping transactions of any crypto coins. Nothing is free, all is done with payment. The bigger maybe the faster will be your transaction.


Title: Re: Can we send eth using 0 gas price
Post by: sanjeevgogi on May 26, 2018, 04:31:26 AM
When i checked the ethereum blockchain some users doesn't pay even a penny for eth transaction they using 0 gas.How is this possible??

Making Ethereum transaction without gas is like driving a car without gas which is not possible. Also for your transaction to be process the miners need to be paid a fee which comes from your gas limit or gas and the gas price. A transaction without gas is not possible in the Ethereum blockchain.

Will it depend upon the number of toekns we transfer or irrespective of tokens will it depend on the gas


Title: Re: Can we send eth using 0 gas price
Post by: IVEXO on May 26, 2018, 04:45:30 AM
When i checked the ethereum blockchain some users doesn't pay even a penny for eth transaction they using 0 gas.How is this possible??

You seem to mix it up
You can send 0 eth to contract addresses on ethereum Blockchain
But you can’t make a transaction for free

Hope you now understand


Title: Re: Can we send eth using 0 gas price
Post by: tannerchum on May 26, 2018, 05:27:53 AM
When i checked the ethereum blockchain some users doesn't pay even a penny for eth transaction they using 0 gas.How is this possible??

It's too possible to transact in eth without paying for gas. I tried many times eth transfer but always ask for the gas. I think all transaction need a payment. Just you think, you will work with out payment ? you will fight that you know you can't win. Just like that. And I know that in every transaction you will pay.


Title: Re: Can we send eth using 0 gas price
Post by: Ebenezer559 on May 26, 2018, 05:31:50 AM
I don't think is possible to send ethereum with zero gas price. I haven't done that before and I haven't seen anyone sending ethereum with zero gas fee. It's impossible. To send ethereum you will need to send it with gas price


Title: Re: Can we send eth using 0 gas price
Post by: lagista on May 26, 2018, 05:33:55 AM
When i checked the ethereum blockchain some users doesn't pay even a penny for eth transaction they using 0 gas.How is this possible??
I think this is not the best way, although to transmit can use 0 gas price but the transaction will be very slow and it is not recommended, I prefer to use gas price for fast and maximum results.


Title: Re: Can we send eth using 0 gas price
Post by: mmo4me.2016 on May 26, 2018, 05:36:34 AM
When i checked the ethereum blockchain some users doesn't pay even a penny for eth transaction they using 0 gas.How is this possible??
Theoretically, it is possible, but in practice, for transactions to occur normally, you will need to pay a certain amount of GAS at the time of the transaction.
You can select the appropriate number at: https://ethgasstation.info/
This fee is very small compared to the time you have to wait for GAS = 0


Title: Re: Can we send eth using 0 gas price
Post by: xda-developer on May 26, 2018, 05:42:11 AM
When i checked the ethereum blockchain some users doesn't pay even a penny for eth transaction they using 0 gas.How is this possible??

Zero gas is not possible in the Ethereum network, as far as I know. Apparently the reflection of zero gas transactions it is simply rounding up of the gas price and non accurate displaying.


Title: Re: Can we send eth using 0 gas price
Post by: wanglili1983 on May 26, 2018, 06:19:32 AM
On today's trading platforms, it should not be accepted not to send tokens.


Title: Re: Can we send eth using 0 gas price
Post by: makishart on May 26, 2018, 06:33:27 AM
When i checked the ethereum blockchain some users doesn't pay even a penny for eth transaction they using 0 gas.How is this possible??
You should try to double check it again. If you are seeing the transaction with zero fees are running at ethereum explorer but it will never be broadcasted to the miners and it will never be confirmed by the block to receive any confirmation.

This way is impossible to work because the gas becomes your responsibility. those transactions will be stuck in ethereun network forever.


Title: Re: Can we send eth using 0 gas price
Post by: Thirio on May 26, 2018, 06:39:49 AM
When i checked the ethereum blockchain some users doesn't pay even a penny for eth transaction they using 0 gas.How is this possible??

You seem to mix it up
You can send 0 eth to contract addresses on ethereum Blockchain
But you can’t make a transaction for free

Hope you now understand
what do you mean "you can send 0 eth to contract addresses on ethereum Blockchain" ?

and it seems like i learned something new,
Transaction fees serve as a reward for the miners so if no fees then no one will process your transaction.

I know transaction fee serves as a reward, but i didn't really know that it was for miners. Miners like, crypto miners? like miners with rigs?


Title: Re: Can we send eth using 0 gas price
Post by: jhenz20 on May 26, 2018, 06:42:32 AM
This is impossible to transact a transaction without paying any amount of Gas. The purpose of paying some gas is for the miners to make them mined, to make your transaction complete you will need to pay for gas. You cannot proceed a transaction without gas, your transaction become failed or error if you do that and it is very slow to process.


Title: Re: Can we send eth using 0 gas price
Post by: mario00 on May 26, 2018, 07:24:52 AM
You cannot send ethereum using 0 gas price, the gas is what carries your transaction along the ethereum blockchain and the higher the gas that you use then the faster your transaction will be but it needs gas to be able to actually completely the transaction. If it runs out of gas before the transaction is complete then it will fail.


Title: Re: Can we send eth using 0 gas price
Post by: katawan4741 on May 26, 2018, 07:33:10 AM
I don't thinks so. You can always spend something when you are making a transactions. It's like withdrawing money from ATM, there is always a transactions fee. The fees they get from transaction they us it for maintenance and for upgrading the blockchain system.


Title: Re: Can we send eth using 0 gas price
Post by: Phaphoo on May 26, 2018, 07:37:12 AM
I don't think we have a way of sending ETH to another wallet without paying a penny, you must pay even if it's small amount.
I remember a day when I send my entire balance from my wallet, they still find a way to remove their own fee.


Title: Re: Can we send eth using 0 gas price
Post by: wel24 on May 26, 2018, 07:38:37 AM
You cannot send eth or any token if your wallet has no balance.You have to pay a gas for your transaction or let say mining fee.Always remember, we need to pay atleast small portions for the transaction to be succeed.You can set it  according to the price that you want to use  for your transaction.


Title: Re: Can we send eth using 0 gas price
Post by: k-west on May 26, 2018, 07:44:26 AM
Maybe it was before,three years ago, when etherium was just released,but with huge number of transactions nowdays in etherium network it is impossible.


Title: Re: Can we send eth using 0 gas price
Post by: MFY151 on May 26, 2018, 07:46:02 AM
When i checked the ethereum blockchain some users doesn't pay even a penny for eth transaction they using 0 gas.How is this possible??

Nope you can't there is always transaction fees and that is what makes the market continue among other cryptocurrency and does the miners its an endless cycle that makes the cryptocurrency system somehow sustainable with a healthy market.


Title: Re: Can we send eth using 0 gas price
Post by: ch_mubarak on May 26, 2018, 07:52:01 AM
Here is some transaction example with 0 gas.

https://etherscan.io/tx/0x173fd250d63a62bb407f214ff924b49e1c90593572eab1a8c523783f2aa58ba3

https://etherscan.io/tx/0x22aaa8b837eb35d57abb55ff79374a455a509bea443757ad0c027058eb15b73f

In both case as you can see gas price is 0.


Title: Re: Can we send eth using 0 gas price
Post by: taynguyenson on May 26, 2018, 07:53:17 AM
That would be really good !!


Title: Re: Can we send eth using 0 gas price
Post by: drew314 on May 26, 2018, 07:55:55 AM
When i checked the ethereum blockchain some users doesn't pay even a penny for eth transaction they using 0 gas.How is this possible??

Check here.

https://etherscan.io/tx/0x173fd250d63a62bb407f214ff924b49e1c90593572eab1a8c523783f2aa58ba3
I don't think this is possible, making transactions with Ethereum needs a gas. It 0 gas transaction fee in Ethereum, I don't think this business will work.


Title: Re: Can we send eth using 0 gas price
Post by: grknondr on May 26, 2018, 07:56:12 AM
Transaction is a job transactin fees mean money for the miners who works on completing them. If you dont pay, then the miners dont do your job for nothing and your transaction will not be processed. This is simple tradind motto.


Title: Re: Can we send eth using 0 gas price
Post by: cryptokath19 on June 01, 2018, 12:59:13 PM
When i checked the ethereum blockchain some users doesn't pay even a penny for eth transaction they using 0 gas.How is this possible??

Check here.

https://etherscan.io/tx/0x173fd250d63a62bb407f214ff924b49e1c90593572eab1a8c523783f2aa58ba3

Its not possible to send an Eth or any tokens that using of 0 gas price because gas or mining fee is important for making a transaction when sending it to others. And its up to you how many gas price you want to use but the better gas price is make it higher or lets say check it on the https://ethgasstation.info to know the safest gas price amount to used.


Title: Re: Can we send eth using 0 gas price
Post by: skorupi17 on June 01, 2018, 01:28:55 PM
When i checked the ethereum blockchain some users doesn't pay even a penny for eth transaction they using 0 gas.How is this possible??

Check here.

https://etherscan.io/tx/0x173fd250d63a62bb407f214ff924b49e1c90593572eab1a8c523783f2aa58ba3

If you are to use MEW or Metamask, you cannot have a transaction with 0 gwei. If you can try MEW, the lowest gas price would be 1 gwei only. I think the lowest gas price available to the common wallet is 0.1 gwei. However, if you are to use a customized API for your transaction, you could use 1 wei as gas price. This way you'll pay almost $0 for your transaction. Read this for instance: link (https://blog.ethlend.io/how-to-make-transaction-on-ethereum-network-with-0-5f5dedac872b)

When i checked the ethereum blockchain some users doesn't pay even a penny for eth transaction they using 0 gas.How is this possible??

You seem to mix it up
You can send 0 eth to contract addresses on ethereum Blockchain
But you can’t make a transaction for free

Hope you now understand
what do you mean "you can send 0 eth to contract addresses on ethereum Blockchain" ?

and it seems like i learned something new,

Actually, you can send 0 ETH to any address at will. The "you can send 0 eth to contract addresses on ethereum Blockchain" part is common on those who are sending tokens instead of ETH.



To those who are saying that this is impossible, kindly revisit the link OP provided. The evidence is so clear and yet you people are ignoring the fact.


Title: Re: Can we send eth using 0 gas price
Post by: xclusiveguy on June 05, 2018, 07:51:24 AM
I don't think it's possible for you to achieve your transaction through that process,  you have to pay  some certain amount for the miners, I'm pretty sure if you try it it's gonna bounce back