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Economy => Economics => Topic started by: cybershawrk on January 24, 2014, 06:19:14 AM



Title: Has anyone noticed the bitcoin value seems to be decreasing?
Post by: cybershawrk on January 24, 2014, 06:19:14 AM
A few days ago bitcoins were at almost a 1000 per,but today i noticed that they are down by almost a 100 anyone else notice this?


Title: Re: Has anyone noticed the bitcoin value seems to be decreasing?
Post by: seanneko on January 24, 2014, 06:41:56 AM
A few days ago bitcoins were at almost a 1000 per,but today i noticed that they are down by almost a 100 anyone else notice this?

Nope. You're the only one who noticed. Thanks for bringing it to our attention!


Title: Re: Has anyone noticed the bitcoin value seems to be decreasing?
Post by: cybershawrk on January 24, 2014, 06:44:23 AM
yeah i guess i thought this was probably obvious but still thought i should post it


Title: Re: Has anyone noticed the bitcoin value seems to be decreasing?
Post by: kisa2005 on January 24, 2014, 07:37:53 AM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=429799.0

similar topic ^^


Title: Re: Has anyone noticed the bitcoin value seems to be decreasing?
Post by: lnternet on January 24, 2014, 08:19:43 AM
Where can I see the value of bitcoin?


Title: Re: Has anyone noticed the bitcoin value seems to be decreasing?
Post by: Jungian on January 24, 2014, 10:57:29 AM
Where can I see the value of bitcoin?

http://bitcoincharts.com/markets/


Title: Re: Has anyone noticed the bitcoin value seems to be decreasing?
Post by: cybershawrk on January 24, 2014, 10:14:15 PM
The price has dropped before it will probably go back up soon


Title: Re: Has anyone noticed the bitcoin value seems to be decreasing?
Post by: mzp on January 25, 2014, 01:01:27 AM
Maybe folks are a little freaked about the end of the month. When Houbi is still there ticking away at bitcoinwisdom on 1 Feb we'll be back on track.


Title: Re: Has anyone noticed the bitcoin value seems to be decreasing?
Post by: BiTJack on January 25, 2014, 10:47:50 AM
Where can I see the value of bitcoin?

http://bitcoincharts.com/markets/

http://coinmarketcap.com/


Title: Re: Has anyone noticed the bitcoin value seems to be increasing?
Post by: kisa2005 on January 25, 2014, 11:59:12 AM
yes we did   :P


Title: Re: Has anyone noticed the bitcoin value seems to be decreasing?
Post by: knarzo on January 25, 2014, 08:23:18 PM
http://www.xe.com/en/currencycharts/?from=ARS&to=USD&view=10Y

Has anyone noticed?


Title: Re: Has anyone noticed the bitcoin value seems to be decreasing?
Post by: CoinHeavy on January 25, 2014, 10:01:16 PM
We live in exponential times.  There are going to be some cooling-off/stabilization periods following order of magnitude price increases.

Once recently announced VC funding is actualized into products, services, and general bitcoin infrastructure, expect the trip to the moon to continue, ever onwards!


Title: Re: Has anyone noticed the bitcoin value seems to be decreasing?
Post by: skivrmt on January 25, 2014, 10:09:28 PM
We live in exponential times.  There are going to be some cooling-off/stabilization periods following order of magnitude price increases.

Once recently announced VC funding is actualized into products, services, and general bitcoin infrastructure, expect the trip to the moon to continue, ever onwards!

Ohoh, we need to update thread, the title specifically.  BTC is now slowly climbing up again.  Did anyone notice? ;)

But seriously, BTC is still in its infancy, is traded on multiple somewhat questionable exchanges, it will be very volatile, in both directions.


Title: Re: Has anyone noticed the bitcoin value seems to be decreasing?
Post by: cybershawrk on January 26, 2014, 01:29:02 AM
I did,always a relief to see the value of the bitcoins rising. Maybe they will top a 1000 again this time?


Title: Re: Has anyone noticed the bitcoin value seems to be decreasing?
Post by: Erdogan on January 26, 2014, 02:14:26 AM
Where can I see the value of bitcoin?

There is no defined value. When you want it, need it AND prove that you are willing to aquire it by offering something for it, you discover the value, for you, there and then. It is called the market.


Title: Re: Has anyone noticed the bitcoin value seems to be decreasing?
Post by: kisa2005 on January 26, 2014, 05:49:57 AM

Ohoh, we need to update thread, the title specifically.  BTC is now slowly climbing up again.  Did anyone notice? ;)


have an attentive look at my previous post ;)


But seriously, BTC is still in its infancy, is traded on multiple somewhat questionable exchanges, it will be very volatile, in both directions.


agreed!

however if volatility means 50% chance of halving value versus 50% of doubling, then the expected value is +25%, you probably don't want to be short such an asset even given the volatility... ^^


Title: Re: Has anyone noticed the bitcoin value seems to be decreasing?
Post by: coinpharmer on January 26, 2014, 06:29:45 AM
I smell a new buyer....  ive watched the price change 100$ DURING a conversation about bitcoin with someone about it. started with coversation by pulling up the page, and reloading the page at the end of the conversation.

changing value is the REASON most people got into this, just wait a month or 2 and watch it grow. its about net gains over time not "whats it doing right this moment oh noes!"


Title: Re: Has anyone noticed the bitcoin value seems to be decreasing?
Post by: delphic on January 26, 2014, 08:11:11 AM
Where can I see the value of bitcoin?
It's printed on the back.


Title: Re: Has anyone noticed the bitcoin value seems to be decreasing?
Post by: bored on January 26, 2014, 11:15:52 AM
A few days ago bitcoins were at almost a 1000 per,but today i noticed that they are down by almost a 100 anyone else notice this?

Nope. You're the only one who noticed. Thanks for bringing it to our attention!

haha, I seriously laughed out loud.


Title: Re: Has anyone noticed the bitcoin value seems to be decreasing?
Post by: cybershawrk on January 27, 2014, 12:45:12 AM
It's awesome news the btc reached over a 1000 again I had a feeling it would


Title: Re: Has anyone noticed the bitcoin value seems to be decreasing?
Post by: Lethn on January 27, 2014, 03:10:13 PM
lol cybershawrk, you're like me when I'm feeling really nervous about holding something :P you need to have something else to do to occupy yourself so you don't check the prices constantly.


Title: Re: Has anyone noticed the bitcoin value seems to be decreasing?
Post by: cybershawrk on February 21, 2014, 04:15:11 AM
yeah I do have quite a habit for checking the prices frequently lol
guess that's what happens when you have some extra free time haha.  ;D


Title: Re: Has anyone noticed the bitcoin value seems to be decreasing?
Post by: aminorex on February 21, 2014, 06:52:01 AM
Please do not confuse the value with the price.  Certainly the price has been declining.  Whether the value has gone up or down can only be determined by doing statistics on the bitcoin economy.  I did some work on the blockchain for January and estimated the centroid of the value at 640 USD.  By now it should be at least 720, if the expansion has been constant (which is unlikely of course).


Title: Re: Has anyone noticed the bitcoin value seems to be decreasing?
Post by: skivrmt on February 21, 2014, 02:21:24 PM
Please do not confuse the value with the price.  Certainly the price has been declining.  Whether the value has gone up or down can only be determined by doing statistics on the bitcoin economy.  I did some work on the blockchain for January and estimated the centroid of the value at 640 USD.  By now it should be at least 720, if the expansion has been constant (which is unlikely of course).

Generally though in a free market economy the value is the price.  Bitcoin can be considered a free market because it's traded on multiple exchanges.  This happens all the time in the stock market as well.  What is the "value" of Apple?  Google?  Etc.  The intrinsic book value is usually less then the current price, but the price includes future projected profits as well.   But when I think of value, I think of what someone is willing to pay for a certain item.  In the case of Bitcoin, currently the value is what a bidder is willing to pay for a coin on Bitstamp.


Title: Re: Has anyone noticed the bitcoin value seems to be decreasing?
Post by: cybershawrk on February 21, 2014, 09:59:54 PM
Investing in bitcoins is pretty much the same game as investing in stocks they can
go up and you can make some money or they could go down and you will lose money I guess the risk is part of the fun though lol.


Title: Re: Has anyone noticed the bitcoin value seems to be decreasing?
Post by: qiwoman on February 22, 2014, 03:05:17 AM
I believe also there is speculation in the ALT COIN MARKETS as well so people are using BTC to play with those alt currencies too back and forth. At the moment Bitcoin is much a speculation object but once it goes more mainstream into products and services the price should eventually stabilize more I think.


Title: Re: Has anyone noticed the bitcoin value seems to be decreasing?
Post by: cybershawrk on February 22, 2014, 03:43:17 AM
I wonder if someday bitcoin will become a thing of the past and some other coin would suddenly become popular.


Title: Re: Has anyone noticed the bitcoin value seems to be decreasing?
Post by: aminorex on February 22, 2014, 07:21:32 AM
Please do not confuse the value with the price. 

Generally though in a free market economy the value is the price. 

You are confusing the value with the price.  Please stop.


Title: Re: Has anyone noticed the bitcoin value seems to be decreasing?
Post by: cybershawrk on February 24, 2014, 08:14:57 AM
does anyone think it will go down to a 1$ per btc I would totally rack up on those
if they did that probably won't happen though


Title: Re: Has anyone noticed the bitcoin value seems to be decreasing?
Post by: D05GTO on February 24, 2014, 02:21:24 PM
does anyone think it will go down to a 1$ per btc I would totally rack up on those
if they did that probably won't happen though


LOL, I believe everyone and their mother would be "all in" at $100.  No chance to reach $1.   


Title: Re: Has anyone noticed the bitcoin value seems to be decreasing?
Post by: cybershawrk on February 24, 2014, 09:46:09 PM
yeah 100 is pretty low i still can't believe that in about less than a month's time
the btc price plummeted down from a 1000 to a 100 that's insane.
Does the sudden drop in price have anything to do with the fact that a boatload of bitcoins were stolen by hackers?


Title: Re: Has anyone noticed the bitcoin value seems to be decreasing?
Post by: thddx on February 25, 2014, 02:18:17 AM
I cannot decide if you are being serious.

One thing is for certain: you should not equate what's happening on Gox with the price.  I bet it will dip a bit further when Gox finally accepts its death, but we'll bounce back shortly thereafter.


Title: Re: Has anyone noticed the bitcoin value seems to be decreasing?
Post by: bitcoindirect on February 25, 2014, 02:31:24 AM
Where's the stopping point at in speculation?


Title: Re: Has anyone noticed the bitcoin value seems to be decreasing?
Post by: skivrmt on February 27, 2014, 12:25:42 AM
I cannot decide if you are being serious.

One thing is for certain: you should not equate what's happening on Gox with the price.  I bet it will dip a bit further when Gox finally accepts its death, but we'll bounce back shortly thereafter.

Fairly accurate prediction and so far so good.  There was a great NY Times articles talking about how this is a good thing.  Coinbase is solid and here to stay.  itBit is solid and here to stay (yes not a lot of you have heard of them but you will once there get US approval).  Bitstamp I'm still not sure about, but they seem fairly solid.  BTC I wouldn't trust but many do!


Title: Re: Has anyone noticed the bitcoin value seems to be decreasing?
Post by: Erdogan on February 28, 2014, 12:00:43 AM
Investing in bitcoins is pretty much the same game as investing in stocks they can
go up and you can make some money or they could go down and you will lose money I guess the risk is part of the fun though lol.

"Investing" in bitcoin is not really investing, since bitcoin is money it is saving. The real possibility that bitcoin can appreciate, is a one time event while bitcoin is being implemented. When bitcoin is fully implemented, you have the option of taking interest from lending, or invest (buy capital goods with the intent of producing something of value).