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Economy => Speculation => Topic started by: wobber on January 24, 2014, 11:45:44 AM



Title: Lowest volume in 2 years
Post by: wobber on January 24, 2014, 11:45:44 AM
It seems to me we have the lowest volume in 2 years. January 2014.

Any idea what this could mean?

https://i.imgur.com/ulLUi8a.png


Title: Re: Lowest volume in 2 years
Post by: jamesc760 on January 24, 2014, 11:51:57 AM
Hodlers are winning?
Calm before the storm?
Chinese New Year slow down?


Title: Re: Lowest volume in 2 years
Post by: fonzie on January 24, 2014, 11:54:30 AM
It seems to me we have the lowest volume in 2 years. January 2014.

Any idea what this could mean?

https://i.imgur.com/ulLUi8a.png


http://www.oftwominds.com/photos09/anatomy-bubble.png


 :D :D :D


Title: Re: Lowest volume in 2 years
Post by: Tzupy on January 24, 2014, 11:55:37 AM
IMO it means several things (looking at the chart):
1) Gox market share shrinked a lot (but due to fiat withdrawal problems it still has a decent cushion of fiat).
2) the flow of new fiat into exchanges is unable to sustain an uptrend at these high prices, so buyer pressure is low.
3) HODLers are still waiting for the uptrend to resume, so seller pressure is low for now.
4) long term MACD shows that the market is about the same as late April 2013, but moves take much longer.


Title: Re: Lowest volume in 2 years
Post by: LOADING.READY.RUN on January 24, 2014, 11:58:28 AM
It means that no one is using Gox anymore. Just look at the other exchanges.

Other than that, I agree that it's a rather low volume period, which has always been normal for BTC in an undecided market 1.5 months after all time high and big correction.


Title: Re: Lowest volume in 2 years
Post by: Hyena on January 24, 2014, 12:03:45 PM
Volume in currency, do you speak it?

http://s30.postimg.org/wjk3s7hld/chart_png_width_940_m_mtgox_USD_Submit_Button_Draw.png



Title: Re: Lowest volume in 2 years
Post by: Apostata on January 24, 2014, 12:15:20 PM
Yeah you may want to look at volume in $

Also not sure if you've been watching but lately the market has been pretty dull waiting for China to sort things out. 


Title: Re: Lowest volume in 2 years
Post by: wobber on January 24, 2014, 12:39:45 PM
Yeah you may want to look at volume in $

Also not sure if you've been watching but lately the market has been pretty dull waiting for China to sort things out. 

High volume in USD is because of the high price. I don't see why could it matter.


Title: Re: Lowest volume in 2 years
Post by: HairyMaclairy on January 24, 2014, 12:42:02 PM
Yeah you may want to look at volume in $

Also not sure if you've been watching but lately the market has been pretty dull waiting for China to sort things out. 

High volume in USD is because of the high price. I don't see why could it matter.

You may not care about Bitcoin price in usd.  Many other people do. 


Title: Re: Lowest volume in 2 years
Post by: LOADING.READY.RUN on January 24, 2014, 12:43:27 PM
High volume in USD is because of the high price. I don't see why could it matter.

I don't see why Gox could matter. Look at the other exchanges' volume!


Title: Re: Lowest volume in 2 years
Post by: Boxman90 on January 24, 2014, 12:53:54 PM
What it means is that the same amount of USD is still playing the market, while the price is just higher. Resulting in a lower BTC price.

Ultimately this means that no actual real money has flowed in, and approximately the same amount of investors (USD volume wise) is playing the market. Aka, bubble territory.


Title: Re: Lowest volume in 2 years
Post by: LOADING.READY.RUN on January 24, 2014, 12:59:57 PM
What it means is that the same amount of USD is still playing the market, while the price is just higher. Resulting in a lower BTC price.
What it means is that Gox almost doesn't matter anymore. It was 80% of the market volume in April, it's 25% of the USD/BTC market volume now (not counting Chinese exchanges because their zero fees make direct comparison difficult).

Take bitstamp's volume and/or BTC-E's volume and the situation looks a lot less dramatic.



Title: Re: Lowest volume in 2 years
Post by: Salivan on January 24, 2014, 01:43:32 PM
4) long term MACD shows that the market is about the same as late April 2013, but moves take much longer.
situation is nowhere near late april. No matter what indicators say.
there is a lot of money on sidelines waiting for right moment to enter.


Title: Re: Lowest volume in 2 years
Post by: wobber on January 24, 2014, 04:51:06 PM
4) long term MACD shows that the market is about the same as late April 2013, but moves take much longer.
situation is nowhere near late april. No matter what indicators say.
there is a lot of money on sidelines waiting for right moment to enter.

Where can you see that money?


Title: Re: Lowest volume in 2 years
Post by: Holliday on January 24, 2014, 05:53:54 PM
https://i.imgur.com/OU5CVze.png&t=536&c=dxbJCwooT23_dA


Title: Re: Lowest volume in 2 years
Post by: rocks on January 24, 2014, 06:04:43 PM

Yes, this. Thank you.


Title: Re: Lowest volume in 2 years
Post by: kireinaha on January 24, 2014, 06:14:24 PM
It means a lot of people are still excited from the last rally and expecting it to go back up again, but will probably give up and sell their positions in the next few weeks. Then we should see volume pick up.


Title: Re: Lowest volume in 2 years
Post by: JimboToronto on January 24, 2014, 06:33:22 PM
you may want to look at volume in $

Exactly.

High volume in USD is because of the high price. I don't see why could it matter.

Because 1btc at $900 (this is Gox we're talking about) represents more wealth than 1000btc at $0.50?

The high price in USD is precisely why it matters.



Title: Re: Lowest volume in 2 years
Post by: Bitcoin BEAR on January 24, 2014, 06:38:34 PM
4) long term MACD shows that the market is about the same as late April 2013, but moves take much longer.
situation is nowhere near late april. No matter what indicators say.
there is a lot of money on sidelines waiting for right moment to enter.

Why is everyone so biased to one side?
There are also a lot of coins on the sidelines waiting for the next directional move. For every coin sold, there is a coin bought, and what used to be the bottom is now a significant unrealized loss. Don't think that every person in this market will hold it to the ground. Some would rather keep some of their purchasing power rather than do nothing and watch it evaporate.